Kanwulia: Both!

There are ELECTIVE ABORTIONS aka D&Cs aka ACT OF MAN/WOMAN!!!!

There are SPONTANEOUS ABORTIONS aka MISCARRIAGES aka ACTS OF GOD!!!!

Yup!!! We can't justify both!

In his own image and likeness! God kills. . . so do humans and animals!

Jesus was killed by PROPHESY aka GOD!!!!

I love RELIGIOUS HIPPOS and PIPPOS!!!!

Much ado about a PHOCKING blob of 'unwanted blood clots'!!!


Mtcheeeeew!!!!

Kairoseki77:

The church tap dances.

Science is without sentiments.

belabela:

You destroy a life because you think is unwanted. Will it be justified to kill you because you are considered unwanted? You are just as innocent as bokoharam

Such thinking as yours is the foundation of eugenics, the origin of racism ( which of course many do not know that it defines that some people are more human than the others....superior races and inferior ones) and the basis of the second world war.


Watch this video and answer if abortion is still birth control
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y2KsU_dhwI

MAYOWAAK: The misconceptions around abortion need deconstruction. First is that women who seek abortion are promiscuous. Aside the subjectivity of the term “promiscuous,” studies show many married women seek abortion, too. Second is that children are generally a blessing. Well, not in all cases especially if we go by Nigeria’s 52,000 annual incidence of maternal mortality. Third, all children come from God and deserve to be born. Not at all children are a biological reaction; God does not make them, regardless of what miracle preachers say. Children are born because people have sex. And to those who make the banal argument of if-your-parents-did-not-give-birth-to-you-would-you-be-here, I ask in return, “Since your birth, what good have you done the planet?”

One thing conservatives should note is this: most women would rather avoid abortion altogether. I once attended a conference where a doctor who runs an abortion clinic read from the logbook her patrons filled after the process. It was agonising to listen. The women, one could tell, suffered guilty consciences. If the conservatives add to this the economics of abortion, they will get a picture of what the decision is really like for women who have to procure it. Others who trump up the argument of infanticide need to understand that matters of sex have many grey areas and there cannot be an umbrella definition of virtue to cover everyone sufficiently.

Issues around abortion are tense everywhere, even in the so-called liberal societies. Nevertheless, countries legalise the practice for pragmatic purposes as women who want an abortion will procure it regardless of risk to their health and, even, life. For all it’s worth, such women deserve support, legal and social.

Abortion legalisation does not mean women would start trooping to hospitals through the front door. Abortion is hugely stigmatising in many societies and the impact of this law will only be marginal for a while. The poor and working-class women will most likely continue patronising quacks. It will take time before society fully reconciles itself to certain realities.

Those who use religious precepts to counter arguments on abortion should understand that not all women are religious; some of us don’t want our choices decided by the injunctions in someone else’s religion. I am a non-theist; there is no rationale why my choices should be regulated by Roman Catholic principles. There are even multiple studies that show that on issues like contraceptives, Catholics are already ahead of the Vatican dictates, so why not let us be realistic?

The culturalist position on the issue is not more tenable either. Culture is not immutable; otherwise Nigerians would still be killing twins. And let’s not get started on the myth of superior African values. Cultural values are relative and Africans have no more mores that trump other places in the world where abortion is legalised. That we are more pretentious or too coy to deal with certain subjects is not superiority.

Let’s note: Abortion is never compulsory, either for the doctor or the woman involved. It is an alternative for those who exhaust their options. Nobody should therefore use their influence on political institutions to impose their position on everyone (otherwise, why resist Boko Haram?) That Imo State is Catholic-dominated does not make it a religious state. Okorocha should allow this law as a test of strength and virtues of those who preach love and tolerance on Sunday but live otherwise during the week.

Finally, I want to preempt those who will ask if I have any value for life at all. The answer is yes, I do. But I am also a realist so like Bill Clinton, I believe abortion should be safe, legal and rare. What our conservatives should debate is “rare,” not total suppression. It is delusional to assume people will always want every child when we know that mistakes do happen; people miscalculate. Nature itself is inconsistent and so folks find themselves with children they do not want.

When that happens, every woman should be left to consult her conscience and arrive at her own decision. Not everyone woman will choose an abortion anyway. The Igbo have a saying, “Egbe belu, ugo belu.” It roughly translates as live and let live. I read that in Chinua Achebe’s book.

ADELAKUN ADUNNI ABIMBOLA

jmoore: Abortionists are terrorists that kill unborn babies.

mollytinrox:

No Belabela, be objective. Same way if Hitler had been aborted, the Holocaust wouldn't have happened. Because his mother didn't abort him, over 6 million Jews and many of other nationalities involved in World war 2 were MURDERED. Read again about Hitler. And Osama. Those should have been unwanted!

agehero13: Its is not murder if the pregnancy is still at the ovum or geminal stage(2wks) but if its at the embryonic stage(more than 2wks) then its murder

kennygee: Abortion is a sin depending on the Intent. If two married people didn't plan for it and it happened or if it poses a risk for the mother then it is ok. It is not ok for a single unrepentant and slutty young lady to use abortion as an easy way out, it is a sin. Fornication is already a sin, to add Murder to it is another sin, but if a young lady gets pregant out of wedlock, she should keep the pregnancy unless it puts her at risk.

belabela:

There is a guy called Bill Gates, another called Henry Kissinger....sure you know them?...they think you should be killed because you are unwanted...you are an excess to surplus and one of the problems of population explosion. Is that right?

You seem not to even see the plight of the super rich of our modern word ( which some people call Illuminati) it is population reduction.

Step 1: brainwash the people that it is moral to kill ( e.g via abortion, war )
Step 2: Kill of the brainwashed population and retain the superior humans

yellowpawpaw: It depend on d angle u r seeing it from. Religion=yes
Atheist=nope
Science=nope
Married women=nope(whether religious or not)

mollytinrox:

No, Belabela. That's not what this is about. Its not about Gates and Kissinger. Its if what we have left on earth will sustain our progenies if we continue to multiply at this rate.

yellowpawpaw: It depend on d angle u r seeing it from. Religion=yes
Atheist=nope
Science=nope
Married women=nope(whether religious or not)

belabela:

Ok I understand your thinking...then may I ask you will you volunteer to kill yourself so that we can at least reduce the population by one?

mollytinrox:
You're not one to reason with, I can see. Objectively point out why abortion is murder. No Bible verse, no Koranic verse, nothing your grandmother told you. And don't tell me about Illuminati. The only body that openly speaks about abortion is the catholic church and WHO.

Be reasonable, and give me facts. I don't know who we got to surrendering ourselves for killings in this discussion.

adegeorge: Not long ago, President Goodluck Jonathan said there is a law under way to cut down the number of children Nigerian will give birth to. According to the President, the legislation is intended to regulate the nation’s ever increasing population. Incredible, isn’t it?

http://ipledge2nigeria.com/index.php/blogs/entry/abortion-murder-or-a-means-of-birth-control.html

ifyalways: Abortion is a means of birth control,IMO. If "its" unwanted,unloved and unplanned for,let it go.

lucenzo: Abortion is murder.

Birth control involving contraception is to prevent pregnancy.

Abortion is terminating a pregnancy.


You don't take what you cannot give.

Ifems: I knew it is only the ladies that will disagree that it is murder.I wonder why one would say that abortion is not murder.You said when it is unplanned abi?Let me ask,Did you not plan for it when the guy was toasting you?When he started washing your head,from you're looking good today TO going on a date TO what is your likes TO the movies you like TO how you spent your last vacation TO the type of friends you keep TO smooshing TO kissing TO taking off the clothes TO the taking away the inner wear and TO the final act?Did you not know that there is something called protection?...It pisses me off when we use flimsy and silly excuses to define our actions.

Miss Ope:
If contraception helps to prevent pregnancy....then you've prevented a potential baby from coming to life....in orders words you've murdered dat child...ALL NA MURDER............WHO AGREES WITH ME ON THIS?