Kabieosi:

Adam needed no babysitter, he was a grown man and administrator capable enough to be left in charge of the keeping of Eden

but Adam was headstrong, he was intent on having he's own way

Adam was not deceived, nor aided and abetted by Satan

There is a Redeemer - Adam and Eve's off-springs are not condemned for eternity

At the appropriate time, sin will be dealt with and it will exist no more

So what is the complaint, what is the grumble about?

Put on your shades, the future is bright

Tayerulz: So why did God give you understanding, why did he create it in the first place? Are you saying one should choose where to apply one's understanding, isn't that laziness and foolishness? Religion promotes laziness! Always waiting for 'God' to do everything for them.

RationalDude: Romans 5:12

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Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all sinned.

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Can you explain what that verse is talking about? It says Adam was one man, you say he was a nation so who do I believe?

plaetton: Another simple question.
Who committed the first act of disobedience and usurped the blissful paradise of peace of both heaven and earth?
Was it the Satan or Adam?

If it was Satan, common sense would have required God to shield the newly created earth, especially impressionable newborns like Adam and Eve, from the influences of Satan .
To have allowed that to happen would have been gross negligence of the highest form.

Even more absurd is the fact that the impressionable newborns are thereafter punished for an event that should not have happened if the right measures had been taken.

Even more absurd is that the innocent offsprings of Adam and Eve are condemned for eternity for no sins of their own , but for the lapse in judgement of the first Babysitter.

mcfynest:


so

Deeone_bangin!:
Those of you blaspheming ehn, On Judgement day God will flash ur back ur posts on Nairaland. #Okbye

laclass:



To find out who committed it first i will like you to reason small with me from the scriptures and correct your insinuation my brother.This is the reason.It all started this way, When Satan led Adam and Eve into disobeying Jehovah, an important question was raised. Satan did not call into question Jehovah’s power. Even Satan knows that there is no limit to Jehovah’s power. Rather, Satan questioned Jehovah’s right to rule. By calling God a liar who withholds good from his subjects, Satan charged that Jehovah is a bad ruler. (Genesis 3:2-5) Satan implied that mankind would be better off without God’s ruler-ship. This was an attack on Jehovah’s sovereignty, his right to rule.

Adam and Eve rebelled against Jehovah. In effect, they said: “We do not need Jehovah as our Ruler. We can decide for ourselves what is right and what is wrong.” How could Jehovah settle that issue? How could he teach all intelligent creatures that the rebels were wrong and that his way truly is best? Someone might say that God should simply have destroyed the rebels and made a fresh start. But Jehovah had stated his purpose to fill the earth with the offspring of Adam and Eve, and he wanted them to live in an earthly paradise. (Genesis 1:28) Jehovah always fulfills his purposes. (Isaiah 55:10, 11) Besides that, getting rid of the rebels in Eden would not have answered the question that had been raised regarding Jehovah’s right to rule.

Let us consider an illustration. Imagine that a teacher is telling his students how to solve a difficult problem. A clever but rebellious student claims that the teacher’s way of solving the problem is wrong. Implying that the teacher is not capable, this rebel insists that he knows a much better way to solve the problem. Some students think that he is right, and they also become rebellious. What should the teacher do? If he throws the rebels out of the class, what will be the effect on the other students? Will they not believe that their fellow student and those who joined him are right? All the other students in the class might lose respect for the teacher, thinking that he is afraid of being proved wrong. But suppose that the teacher allows the rebel to show the class how he would solve the problem.
Jehovah has done something similar to what the teacher does. Remember that the rebels in Eden were not the only ones involved. Millions of angels were watching. (Job 38:7; Daniel 7:10) How Jehovah handled the rebellion would greatly affect all those angels and eventually all intelligent creation. So, what has Jehovah done? He has allowed Satan to show how he would rule mankind. God has also allowed humans to govern themselves under Satan’s guidance.

The teacher in our illustration knows that the rebel and the students on his side are wrong. But he also knows that allowing them the opportunity to try to prove their point will benefit the whole class. When the rebels fail, all honest students will see that the teacher is the only one qualified to lead the class. They will understand why the teacher thereafter removes any rebels from the class. Similarly, Jehovah knows that all honest hearted humans and angels will benefit from seeing that Satan and his fellow rebels have failed and that humans cannot govern themselves. Like Jeremiah of old, they will learn this vital truth: “I well know, O Jehovah, that to earthling man his way does not belong. It does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his step.”—Jeremiah 10:23.

Ray McBlue: Who Sinned First, God Or Adam? suited the topic best, IMO.
May God av mercy on u.
God was the instigator, he allowed Satan to roam free knowing fully well that naive Couples like Adam and Evil would be susceptible to his charms, which begs the question: What was god's game plan? What's the point of telling Adam not to eat the forbidden fruit and yet allowed the serpent to slunk about, unchecked? I think god committed the first sin of deceit, long before Adam ate the fruit. I think god was Machiavellian in that regard.

laclass:



To find out who committed it first i will like you to reason small with me from the scriptures and correct your insinuation my brother.This is the reason.It all started this way, When Satan led Adam and Eve into disobeying Jehovah, an important question was raised. Satan did not call into question Jehovah’s power. Even Satan knows that there is no limit to Jehovah’s power. Rather, Satan questioned Jehovah’s right to rule. By calling God a liar who withholds good from his subjects, Satan charged that Jehovah is a bad ruler. (Genesis 3:2-5) Satan implied that mankind would be better off without God’s ruler-ship. This was an attack on Jehovah’s sovereignty, his right to rule.

Adam and Eve rebelled against Jehovah. In effect, they said: “We do not need Jehovah as our Ruler. We can decide for ourselves what is right and what is wrong.” How could Jehovah settle that issue? How could he teach all intelligent creatures that the rebels were wrong and that his way truly is best? Someone might say that God should simply have destroyed the rebels and made a fresh start. But Jehovah had stated his purpose to fill the earth with the offspring of Adam and Eve, and he wanted them to live in an earthly paradise. (Genesis 1:28) Jehovah always fulfills his purposes. (Isaiah 55:10, 11) Besides that, getting rid of the rebels in Eden would not have answered the question that had been raised regarding Jehovah’s right to rule.

Let us consider an illustration. Imagine that a teacher is telling his students how to solve a difficult problem. A clever but rebellious student claims that the teacher’s way of solving the problem is wrong. Implying that the teacher is not capable, this rebel insists that he knows a much better way to solve the problem. Some students think that he is right, and they also become rebellious. What should the teacher do? If he throws the rebels out of the class, what will be the effect on the other students? Will they not believe that their fellow student and those who joined him are right? All the other students in the class might lose respect for the teacher, thinking that he is afraid of being proved wrong. But suppose that the teacher allows the rebel to show the class how he would solve the problem.
Jehovah has done something similar to what the teacher does. Remember that the rebels in Eden were not the only ones involved. Millions of angels were watching. (Job 38:7; Daniel 7:10) How Jehovah handled the rebellion would greatly affect all those angels and eventually all intelligent creation. So, what has Jehovah done? He has allowed Satan to show how he would rule mankind. God has also allowed humans to govern themselves under Satan’s guidance.

The teacher in our illustration knows that the rebel and the students on his side are wrong. But he also knows that allowing them the opportunity to try to prove their point will benefit the whole class. When the rebels fail, all honest students will see that the teacher is the only one qualified to lead the class. They will understand why the teacher thereafter removes any rebels from the class. Similarly, Jehovah knows that all honest hearted humans and angels will benefit from seeing that Satan and his fellow rebels have failed and that humans cannot govern themselves. Like Jeremiah of old, they will learn this vital truth: “I well know, O Jehovah, that to earthling man his way does not belong. It does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his step.”—Jeremiah 10:23.

Juell: Isaiah 55:9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
so are my ways higher than your ways, and
my thoughts than your thoughts.

@OP God has the power to make us like robots, programme us to only do good. But he chose to give us free will, and that's the reason why u hav the guts to come and say wat u think u know using ur little human understanding to question The Almighty God. Mercy for ur soul.

haibe:

this is just a way to defend God, I am a christian but the truth is that God planned everything that has happened, the concept of freewill is only an illusion, at least to an extent.

If God did not want Adam to sin, he won't sin, the reason he sinned is because God allowed it.

think of this:

1) God did not want adam to sin and yet he kept the forbidden fruit in the garden of eden?
2) God made the fruit pleasing to eve's eye
3) God allowed a tempter into the garden.

Now its simple, if God did not want adam and eve to be tempted, then he won't cause the above,, he has a planned and that's why he allowed all the above, the concept of freewill is only an illusion, if God did not want adam and eve to sin, then he would not border creating them since he has seen how the future would be, the fact that he went on to create them means he allowed every thing that happened and thus he has a plan, nothing can happen against God's purpose.

this is simply what happened, trying to defend God in this case is not the key, it would only bring about confusion.

uhuogba: FAITH= believing even when there is no fact
Jesus said to Thomas " you have seen me, have you believed? blessed are those that didn't see yet they believed"
When it comes to religion, You can't simply apply Human logic.
Your logic may seem to flaw the supremacy of God but in reality he is still supreme. Your logic adds or subtracts nothing.
He simply has his ways of doing things and who are we to question Him?
One day we will all come to the full knowledge of things when there will be no mystery and you all will laugh hard at your today's "supposedly" intelligence and wonder "so I was this stupid?"