Gombs:

Did the speaker talk of a blessing to the tither?
If He did, then it means He could Bless, meaning it was
Likened to the order of Michizedek who blessed after receiving the tithe. Same order Jesus is of!, No?

You believe?

So, now we are assuming stuffs? Interesting turn out of things

Bidam: The argument is change of law NEVER declared the tithes to be cancelled since the change of priesthood necessitated the change of law.

Infact, Melchizedek example enhances and buttressed the tithe further.Abraham paid a tenth to him.

Levi (hence the Levitical priesthood) is a descendant of Abraham. Therefore, Levi is lesser than Abraham.

Melchizedek is greater than Abraham because he does not descend from Levi, received the tenth from Abraham, and blessed Abraham.

Obviously, the one who gives the blessing is greater than the one who receives the blessing.

Therefore, Melchizedek is far greater than Levi and the priesthood of Melchizedek is far greater than the Levitical priesthood. Further, the scriptures record the death of the Levitical priests. But Melchizedek lives on.

The law of Moses said that the priests would come from sons of Aaron through the tribe of Levi.

If we change the priesthood then we must have a new law in effect. Particularly, since Jesus is our high priest (as the writer has argued repeatedly throughout the hebrew text) then we have a problem because he belongs to another tribe.

Jesus our Lord came from the tribe of Judah, and no one from Judah ever functioned as a priest of God and Moses did not speak about that tribe being a priesthood. So there must be a change of law since there has been a change of priesthood.

Bidam:
The argument is change of law NEVER declared the tithes to be cancelled since the change of priesthood necessitated the change of law.

Bidam:
Infact, Melchizedek example enhances and buttressed the tithe further.Abraham paid a tenth to him.

Levi (hence the Levitical priesthood) is a descendant of Abraham. Therefore, Levi is lesser than Abraham.

Melchizedek is greater than Abraham because he does not descend from Levi, received the tenth from Abraham, and blessed Abraham.

Obviously, the one who gives the blessing is greater than the one who receives the blessing.

Therefore, Melchizedek is far greater than Levi and the priesthood of Melchizedek is far greater than the Levitical priesthood. Further, the scriptures record the death of the Levitical priests. But Melchizedek lives on.

Bidam:
If we change the priesthood then we must have a new law in effect. Particularly, since Jesus is our high priest (as the writer has argued repeatedly throughout the hebrew text) then we have a problem because he belongs to another tribe.

Jesus our Lord came from the tribe of Judah, and no one from Judah ever functioned as a priest of God and Moses did not speak about that tribe being a priesthood. So there must be a change of law since there has been a change of priesthood.

Bidam:
The argument is change of law NEVER declared the tithes to be cancelled since the change of priesthood necessitated the change of law.

Candour:

You're actually very funny. So u haf catch person abi?

Whether blessing or not makes no difference. You and I know Jesus priesthood is superior to Aaron and after the order of Melchizedek. Now answer this

Q.If Jesus is after the order of Melchizedek and Melchizedek received tithes by himself, how does Jesus receive his today?

When you believe the gospel for your salvation. Were u assuming?

I told you I believe they said thank you.accept it like that.

Whether that is blessing or they pronounced a special blessing on the Israelites after receiving the tithes wasn't written so I won't speculate.

Pls I answered or attempted to answer your questions so pls answer my one question up there.

Zikkyy:

If you agree the law changed, the tithe commanded under the old law went with the old law as well. now there is no other law that says "pay your tithe" meaning the giving of a tenth or 10% is at your discretion.



The superiority of Melchizedek priesthood is not a command to tithe.




you are saying what every other person been saying. The law has changed, the command to tithe went with the old law. You are have freedom in Christ to give as much as you can. There is no command restricting the value of your giving today.



Like i will tell anybody that care to read and understand, as long as tithers/pastors define tithe as a tenth or 10%, you can never truly cancel tithe. what was cancelled was the tithe instituted by God. every giving is a percentage of something. if i go to church and give 10% of the money in my wallet, by tithers definition i have tithed. We all tithe, one way or the other but it is not the tithe commanded in Leviticus, it is not the tithe you read about in Numbers, Deuteronomy, Malachi, Chronicles, Nehemiah, Mathew e.t.c

Bidam: PHEW!! when will you ever agree that tithing predates the mosaic law I ain't the one saying it.It's scriptures bro..Go back to the beginning of the thread abeg.
PHEW

christemmbassey: @Gombs, if u promise to b HONEST AND SINCERE, then we can discuss.

Bidam: PHEW!! when will you ever agree that tithing predates the mosaic law I ain't the one saying it.It's scriptures bro..Go back to the beginning of the thread abeg.
PHEW

Goshen360: @ All,

I don't know if my observation is right but Zikky is ACTUALLY seeing the 'hidden' deception in Gomb's questions. Gomb is asking questions based on WHAT THE BIBLE DOESN'T TEACH and he's making those questions look like WHAT THE BIBLE TEACHES as regards to ABRAHAM TITHE in contrast to LEVITICAL TITHE.

One have to pay close attention to those questions, read the lines well and point out hidden deception in those questions BEFORE THEY CAN OR SHOULD BE ANSWERED PROPERLY.

Goshen360:

Please change your attitudes. NOBODY here argued tithe didn't predate the mosaic laws but the issue here is, is the tithe before the mosaic SAME PRACTICE AS tithe under the mosaic?

Goshen360:

Please change your attitudes. NOBODY here argued tithe didn't predate the mosaic laws but the issue here is, is the tithe before the mosaic SAME PRACTICE AS tithe under the mosaic?

Gombs:

Heheh I see aw you dodged that question

Oya let me answer urs! Jesus received tithe today because

1. He is of same order of Priesthood as Melchizedek a priesthood who blesses the tither. God was speaking in Mal 3v8 and he said he'd bless the tither. The Levitical priest didn't bless the tither.

2. Jesus like Melchizedek is alive forever, and their Priesthood is same

3. Melchizedek blessed Abraham cos he was greater, Jesus a priest of a diff kind who wrought us salvation
by his blood is of that order of priesthood.

All I'm saying is that that order of priesthood accepted tithes and blessed tithers, that priesthood is still alive today and forever.

I believed by faith the gospel of christ, so, you believe by faith that the Levitical priesthood blessed the tithers?
Interesting

Are you serious?
I should accept what you believe that is NOT in the scriptures? So you want me to believe you rather than scriptures?
Wonderful

In other words, it didn't happen na, cos if it did, it must have been written. Moses wouldn't have forgotten details and events he engineered himself, would he? If God inspired him well enough to write the book of Genesis and he documented how Melchizedek blessed Abraham, how then would he forget Aaron blessing Israel tithers?

I have.

Zikkyy:

you can never truly cancel tithe. We all tithe, one way or the other

Gombs:

That's even after spelling out the fact that the changed law was the law that said a priest from the descendant of Levi will only be priest and that law was in the old covenant o!

That Law changed hence we have a new priest in an order that received tithes and blessed the tither.

Bro, some folks just wanna argue

Gombs:

Heheh I see aw you dodged that question

Oya let me answer urs! Jesus received tithe today because

1. He is of same order of Priesthood as Melchizedek a priesthood who blesses the tither. God was speaking in Mal 3v8 and he said he'd bless the tither. The Levitical priest didn't bless the tither.

2. Jesus like Melchizedek is alive forever, and their Priesthood is same

3. Melchizedek blessed Abraham cos he was greater, Jesus a priest of a diff kind who wrought us salvation
by his blood is of that order of priesthood.

All I'm saying is that that order of priesthood accepted tithes and blessed tithers, that priesthood is still alive today and forever.

Gombs:

Zikky!
Thank God you got it!


Now...I await Candour and Christembassey and Kunle

Bidam: PHEW!! when will you ever agree that tithing predates the mosaic law I ain't the one saying it.It's scriptures bro..Go back to the beginning of the thread abeg.
PHEW

Candour:

You can see I didn't write an epistle when I answered your question.

The question I asked is simply

Q.since Jesus is of the same order as Melchizedek and we know Melchizedek received tithes HIMSELF, how does Jesus receive tithes today? Again my question is how do you pay tithes to Jesus today?

How do you give Jesus his tithes today?

Don't run away pls

christemmbassey: sorry Christ was promoted, 2day he is The high priest, way beyond melchi, phil 2 and God has also highly exalted and gve him a name dat is above all other name in heaven and on earth, so Jesus is nolonger in melchi's rank, again, OMG, WE'VE BEEN PROMOTED TO MELCHI'S RANK, BROS I'M A PRIEST OF THE MOST HIGH GOD. YOU CAN PAY UR TITHE TO ME, but b4 dat, I bless u in the name of Jesus! Nwa! Bring ur tithes £ € $ etc, i no wan nairas o!

Gombs:

I always am sir!

Pls help Candour out

theoctopus:

There were never two high priests in Israel. There were many priests but never two high priests.

Bidam: If truly this is your assertion,then you should advise your crew to stop throwing mud and insults at those who tithe.God bless.

theoctopus:

You have delved into grave error and heresy with every post you post.

1. If Melchizedek is alive for evermore like Jesus and according to you, his priesthood is like Jesus, then we have two everlasting high priests running in parallel. That is serious heresy you have posted there. You have created for yourself, an immense problem. So as we speak, Jesus is not the only high priest. If that is true, the whole message of salvation falls like a pack of cards. There were never two high priests in Israel. There were many priests but never two high priests. If you have two high priests running parallel today, who do we go to for salvation. What you do not understand obviously is the function of the high priest.

2. Because you are trying so hard to justify your collection of tithes, you have twisted scriptures in dangerous ways. When the bible talked about Melchizedek not having beginning and end, he wasnt equating him with deity. He was talking clearly about his genealogy. But you cant see that because you are bent on justifying your tithe collection. Sad!

Gombs:

There are better ways to hide your shame sir! Jesus is in same order of Priesthood as Melchizedek is not the same as they are ranked together

Christembassey is in the same secondary school as Zikky is not the same thing as they are in the same Class

christemmbassey: then i'm all urs, again, don't run away like joa n ola. . Cheers

christemmbassey: allready getting personal? It is well o. Zikky is a confirmed professor and christemmbassey just a graduate assistant, are they d same, just bc both are in unicall?

Zikkyy:

they are not against you tithing. They are against you preaching it. It is is not preachable.

theoctopus:
You have delved into grave error and heresy with every post you post.

1. If Melchizedek is alive for evermore like Jesus and according to you, his priesthood is like Jesus, then we have two everlasting high priests running in parallel. That is serious heresy you have posted there. You have created for yourself, an immense problem. So as we speak, Jesus is not the only high priest. If that is true, the whole message of salvation falls like a pack of cards. There were never two high priests in Israel. There were many priests but never two high priests. If you have two high priests running parallel today, who do we go to for salvation. What you do not understand obviously is the function of the high priest.

theoctopus:
2. Because you are trying so hard to justify your collection of tithes, you have twisted scriptures in dangerous ways. When the bible talked about Melchizedek not having beginning and end, he wasnt equating him with deity. He was talking clearly about his genealogy. But you cant see that because you are bent on justifying your tithe collection. Sad!

Gombs:
Did the speaker talk of a blessing to the tither?
If He did, then it means He could Bless, meaning it was
Likened to the order of Michizedek who blessed after receiving the tithe.

Bidam: After quoting from scriptures two high priest during Jesus and John's era..You now came up with this? Did you follow our trend of arguments from the beginning? Or are you so much in a hurry to jump in and mark your name present?

Gombs:

Ignored! Post something smart. I asked whether two folks in the same school mean they are in the same class. Answer that and we can discuss further