Akshow: I gave up on them when I heard they don't take blood transfusion no matter the condition. Who does that?

Pee2k3: who do u believe JESUS or PETER

italo: "The year A.D. 1878 … clearly marks the time for the actual assuming of power as King of kings, by our present, spiritual, invisible Lord - …" The Time is At Hand (1911 ed) p.239

"The Watchtower has consistently presented evidence to honesthearted students of Bible prophecy that Jesus’ presence in heavenly Kingdom power began in 1914." Watchtower 1993 Jan 15 p.5

The two statements buy Jehovah's Witnesses above are contradictory.

When did Jesus actually assume power in heaven?

DrugDoc: Dear Jehovah Witnesses and other christians, your knowledge of the Bible is unparalled. Answer these 2 questions about rape in the Bible. The bible follows after the questions.

1. Did Jesus or God or Michael the Archangel command this? Remember Jesus was living in heaven during the old testament?
2. During Armageddon, if God or Jesus or the Archangel commands, would you (JWs) kill women and take the virgins for yourselves? And how the heck did Moses or the Israelites determine the virgins anyway?. Wow!

Numbers 31: 13-18 Moses, Eleazar the priest and all the leaders of the community went to meet them outside the camp. 14 Moses was angry with the officers of the army—the commanders of thousands and commanders of hundreds—who returned from the battle.

15 “Have you allowed all the women to live?” he asked them. 16 “They were the ones who followed Balaam’s advice and enticed the Israelites to be unfaithful to the Lord in the Peor incident, so that a plague struck the Lord’s people. 17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

lond07:

Please explain Col 1:15 in view of the underlying questions .....

1. What does it mean to call someone a creation?
2. when you now go further to describe him as [first born], what does that imply?

ezzy-e:


If PETER WERE WRONG JESUS WOULD HAVE REFUTED OR CORRECTED HIM BUT HE DIDNT.

JESUS HIMSELF ALSO STATED IN MARK 12:32 : “Of that day or that hour no ones knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.”

So, for those persons who say all God and Jesus are equal including the Holy spirit, this is some food for thought.

TroGunn:

The verses there are cool. They make things even clearer.

When John 1:2 says "all things were made through him (Christ)", it shows Christ was used by God for creating other things including the creating of "heavens and the earth" in the "beginning".


The "beginning" of Gen 1:1 is beginning of creating the heavens (universe) and earth - Christ was apparently created before then, also angels were created before earth was made. (Job 38:4-7).

In fact, Proverbs 8:30 refer to Christ as a "master workman" as it relates to creating other things, after verse 22 says Christ was made first.

Pretty clear.

kingsley Mbang: JW is d only religion dat teach d truth,xposin false religious teachin such as Hell fire,Trinity doctrine,Immortality of d soul... etc. no wonder many hates them.

izuplayspiano:
John 10:30 Jesus said... I and my father are one.

loveroftruth:

He Italo is not interested in the truth, but to do the work of his "father".

italo: What do you mean by gospel truth?

That Jesus came in 1914?

That heaven got filled in 1935?

That Abraham, Isaac and Jacob came to earth in 1925?

All these Jehovah's witnesses prophecies (and many many more) are what you call "gospel truth?"

hardbody: The reason is simple, Jesus said if they treated him like sh.it, so also will they treat his followers. For the truth seekers, if you find time to listen to them, they will answer all your question, citing your own bible. It appears to me that they are basically the only people that say it the way it is hence a lot of the other religous propagandists do not want to hear them telling them the gospel truth.

By the way i like your moniker @ booty

fredie107: if only 144,000 people will go to heaven, then how many Jehovah witness members are in the world?

fredie107: if only 144,000 people will go to heaven, then how many Jehovah witness members are in the world?

kingsley Mbang: JW is d only religion dat teach d truth,xposin false religious teachin such as Hell fire,Trinity doctrine,Immortality of d soul... etc.

italo:

But you have just proved that you taught a lie:

"The year A.D. 1878 … clearly marks the time for the actual assuming of power as King of kings, by our present, spiritual, invisible Lord - …" The Time is At Hand (1911 ed) p.239

Why do I need to prove it again?

DrugDoc: Dear Jehovah Witnesses and other christians, your knowledge of the Bible is unparalled. Answer these 2 questions about rape in the Bible. The bible follows after the questions.

1. Did Jesus or God or Michael the Archangel command this? Remember Jesus was living in heaven during the old testament?
2. During Armageddon, if God or Jesus or the Archangel commands, would you (JWs) kill women and take the virgins for yourselves? And how the heck did Moses or the Israelites determine the virgins anyway?. Wow!

Numbers 31: 13-18 Moses, Eleazar the priest and all the leaders of the community went to meet them outside the camp. 14 Moses was angry with the officers of the army—the commanders of thousands and commanders of hundreds—who returned from the battle.

15 “Have you allowed all the women to live?” he asked them. 16 “They were the ones who followed Balaam’s advice and enticed the Israelites to be unfaithful to the Lord in the Peor incident, so that a plague struck the Lord’s people. 17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

ezzy-e:


Fine, I agree. that he and his Father are one, does that make him his FATHER? If Jesus is God then he should be equal to God but please look at what Jesus himself said here at John 14:28 :

“[Jesus said:] If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I.”

Greater than I, he said. What more could he say?

adonismuller: Because they are the true religion, everybody is avoiding them cz devil is sing almost everybody

queenmeenat: D Jehovah witness people as far as am concern R d most Bible base, truth and explanatory oriented av seen.

Am a Muslim and my Late Father is an Alhadji too but despite this, an elderly JW used to come to our house every sunday not realy to preach to my father to turn Xtian bt just simply about life how to seek God,

This Man and my Father tru mutual respect turns friend that lasted over 10ysr, My father use to buy d Awake $ Watchtower 4 us and tru dis I discover hw scientific their book can be.

I also remember that one of d books that really av impact on my life as a teenager then was" QUESTION YOUNG PEOPLE ASK" reading this book is like talking to me directli as a teenager wt all those peer pressure izu

Finally people d best part of them is their. Persuasive, persistent and non aggresive approach to their teachings.
Am not a Xtian and won't b bt as a Yoruba who has had opportunities os dissecting different Xtian sect, I think am totally comfortable wt them, I wl always welcome them nd wl always buy their books.

izuplayspiano: If u expect me to receive them with open arms, then I also expect u to do the same to Illuminati when they come knocking on your door. I suggrst u go and read about them before u call them Christians.

ezzy-e:


Fine, I agree. that he and his Father are one, does that make him his FATHER? If Jesus is God then he should be equal to God but please look at what Jesus himself said here at John 14:28 :

“[Jesus said:] If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I.”

Greater than I, he said. What more could he say?

War Horse:

Blood is what God has used to save us - The shared blood of Jesus Christ. He has held the right to use blood to save to Himself alone. Anyone using blood to save life by way of eating or transfusing it into the body like you take drips is trampling and trespassing the right of God. This should not be hard to understand as certain animals or tree areI love JW but disagree with their ideas on blood transfusion. I am a Doc with yrs of experience. JW accept other components of blood that donor have red cells. but they failed to understand that "blood " has different components od which the red cells are just a fraction of it. it truely they wanna reject blood transfusion, they should reject it in totality not in fraction. held sacred in some of our traditional communities and as such, they are neither killed or killed for eating.