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Re: Nigeria's Disappearing Languages by Nobody: 6:11pm On Nov 14, 2013 |
macof: Which Google can be viewed in Yoruba? ngwa, click the Yoruba highlight in Google and tell me whether u will see anything. All these fake excitement u ppl are exhibiting on this thread sef. |
Re: Nigeria's Disappearing Languages by Sagamite(m): 6:22pm On Nov 14, 2013 |
atuks: It is estimated that, if nothing is done, half of 6000 plus languages spoken today will disappear by the end of this century. With the disappearance of unwritten and undocumented languages, humanity would lose not only a cultural wealth but also important ancestral knowledge embedded, in particular, in indigenous languages. “The death of a language is like the burning of a library.” One thing I have noticed here is the rampant desire to name Igbo kids with English names rather than Igbo names. |
Re: Nigeria's Disappearing Languages by bigfrancis21: 6:30pm On Nov 14, 2013 |
ngozievergreen: Even after accessing Google Yoruba, and entering your search word, he result search page will still come out in English. Its not as if the websites on the result page will be in Yoruba. It will still be in English. Same for Hausa google or Igbo google. |
Re: Nigeria's Disappearing Languages by bigfrancis21: 6:39pm On Nov 14, 2013 |
macof: Ok. That's fine. I believe more people should tow your line. @bold...don't misquote me. The people you chat with learnt it on their own. To them, its a second language. But you shouldn't generalize it to mean all Cubans speak Yoruba, which you know isn't the case. I speak a bit of Spanish and can communicate with a spanish-speaking person to an extent. I have about 4 friends of mine who are spanish crazy, who speak and write good spanish. The spanish-speaking foreigner at the other end of the world will make the fallacy of generalization if he generalizes that Nigerians speak spanish just because 'he knows 5/6 Nigerians who he chats with in Spanish'. |
Re: Nigeria's Disappearing Languages by macof(m): 6:42pm On Nov 14, 2013 |
Inyanga: Efik & Ibibio (Calabar) can never be an extinct, it can only evolve maybe the two can merge and evolve together |
Re: Nigeria's Disappearing Languages by Nobody: 6:45pm On Nov 14, 2013 |
ngozievergreen:I didint say that. May be you didnt get my point. Of course learning as many language as you can is an added advantage. To drive home my point, perhaps lets look at two extremes: Given two options: Igbo or English, which one will you get you child to learn in today's world. Personally, I will choose English. That is not to say that he/she shouldnt learn a local language but it is of less priotity and i wouldnt worry about it as some parents do in vain. In Nigerian context, what is more important is to be able to speak a language with which you can relate to every Nigerian, not a parochail language. |
Re: Nigeria's Disappearing Languages by macof(m): 6:46pm On Nov 14, 2013 |
ngozievergreen: I admit it needs improvement, only a few links in Yoruba are shown.
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Re: Nigeria's Disappearing Languages by macof(m): 6:53pm On Nov 14, 2013 |
bigfrancis21: Mr man u are the one mis-understanding me. I never said all of Cuba speaks Yoruba, All of Nigeria doesn't speak English All I said is I chat with Cubans in Yoruba language, most of them claim to be lukumi tribe of ethnic ancient Oyo, and still speak the language not only in prayer but in communication |
Re: Nigeria's Disappearing Languages by Nobody: 6:54pm On Nov 14, 2013 |
ngozievergreen:Again, it comes down to individual choice. If you want to be a custodian and preservator of your local culture and language, your view about this will be different from mine. But, there are not many disadvantages (there are but they are not materia enough to worry about) in not speaking any of the Nigerian main languages: Ibo/Yoruba/Hausa. So many people will abuse me for saying this out of sentiment but i stand to be corrected on facts. 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria's Disappearing Languages by Nobody: 7:25pm On Nov 14, 2013 |
EBK2: Speak the language that will enable you be the best God has created you to be before you exit this planet into eternity. Some people are so afraid of losing their cultural identity. The only identity that lasts is Identity in Christ. Anything other than that, you are wasting your time in fighting a battle you will lose. There are languages that wont get you anywhere in this world (this may well include your ethnic language), so why bother. The earlier you know this, the sooner you will be free, else you will continue to be troubled by something that doesnt matter.Blunt as usual. However you are 100% right this time. It must be said the people here arguing vehemently in favour of the preservation of Nigeria's native tongues are swimming against the tide. The world has in fact already become a global village with peoples from every kind of background and culture interacting with each other in work and business and play. The sooner ALL Nigerian parents EMPHASISE AND PRIRIOTIZE the teaching of languages like English French Spanish and Chinese to their children the better it would be for these kids in the modern world. |
Re: Nigeria's Disappearing Languages by grandpoh(m): 7:25pm On Nov 14, 2013 |
OMO YORUBA LEMI O |
Re: Nigeria's Disappearing Languages by Nobody: 7:27pm On Nov 14, 2013 |
macof:And then what is the position of Cuba today?. Are they not backward? That a few Cubans speak a form of Yoruba/Bini is of no importance or relevance to this discussion. |
Re: Nigeria's Disappearing Languages by Nobody: 7:47pm On Nov 14, 2013 |
Afam4eva: People move about because, principally, they want to earn a living. In fact there are many times more Igbos living outside Igboland than within it. There really is no big deal about those that make their living outside their 'home' region and have permanently migrated away to continue to spend valuable time learning and speaking the language when it is very rarely needed there. . |
Re: Nigeria's Disappearing Languages by Originalsly: 8:06pm On Nov 14, 2013 |
taiocol: yoruba is the 3rd most spoken language in cuba. Yet there ar so dumb.Hmmm...."there ar so dumb". ...and Cuba with common c...and you are calling people dumb. Dummy...if you can...find out the literacy standing of Cuba. "He who knows not and knows not he knows not is a fool". @topic....language is part of one's culture/heritage. I think a child should learn the mother tongue first and anything else after. I spoke with a Fulani guy in NY last year...and we spoke about language preservation. I was surprised when he said his kids speak fluent English...they are Americans...but in the home English is not allowed unless to speak to a visitor. Made sense to me and this is what all should do to preserve their history as long as possible. |
Re: Nigeria's Disappearing Languages by 2scorehigh(m): 8:08pm On Nov 14, 2013 |
Choi...ọtụ ọcha! |
Re: Nigeria's Disappearing Languages by Omila007: 8:14pm On Nov 14, 2013 |
EBK2: We have loss this one. Even referring to himself as IBO instead of IGBO. I agree that learning languages that will help you fulfill your potential is an advantage but then Not being able to identify with the language of your heritage is not something to be proud of neither. An American of german or Irish heritage appreciates anyone who speaks the language. Your heritage and language is your history and who you are. |
Re: Nigeria's Disappearing Languages by Omila007: 8:22pm On Nov 14, 2013 |
ngozievergreen: Who is this Afam guy 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria's Disappearing Languages by macof(m): 8:26pm On Nov 14, 2013 |
tensor777: You make such a stupid comment. Who placed Cuba backward? Wat do u knw about Cuba? Cuba is a very fun place, corruption and thuggery is high but they really cool and intelligent individuals. |
Re: Nigeria's Disappearing Languages by Nobody: 9:26pm On Nov 14, 2013 |
Omila007: Lost me from what to what? How many of those Irish or German Americans speak German or Irish. Probabily none, and that doesnt make them less Germans or Irish. A colleague of mine is Irish; has lived in Ireland all his life (to work,he flies into London mondays and flies out on Friday). I was shocked when he told me he doesnt speak Irish. Why? Learning Irish doesnt make fit into the future he wants for himself and that doesnt make him less iris. Nigerians are so ethnically minded and wired that they dont see anything unless through the mirrows of enthnicity and it is killing us. I went to an East African country a couple of months ago (Tanzania). Most people dont speak English because their former founding president imbibed the the kind of ethno-nationalist centiment expressed by some people here, by banning speaking English in their schools. His arguement was that English is another colonisation tool. Years later, his country are so backward, illiterate and majority of his people can not engage with the world. Irony is that his children were probabily studying abroad when this happened. My point is that language that matter is the one that will help you win in life (and i dont think any of the languages in Nigeria is the one, although i may be wrong). Your politicians may say otherwise to give you sense of pride and make you feel good. When people are speaking a particular language instead of another, they are are going for what will make them better people in the future. The world is changing. Change with it or you will be left behind. It is as simple as that and there is nothing you can do about it. |
Re: Nigeria's Disappearing Languages by Nobody: 9:27pm On Nov 14, 2013 |
This is a serious matter but true. When you have parents insisting their kids speak and learn only english and to them it's the best. Smh... Also it is compulsory to learn one Nigerian language in secondary school but how can you have an igbo kid studying igbo language instead of another Nigerian language and no one cares?? I learnt how to write and read yoruba in school. |
Re: Nigeria's Disappearing Languages by Nobody: 9:35pm On Nov 14, 2013 |
EBK2: Oh please, stop giving excuses and lame points! no one said we should not learn or speak good english, english is already Nigeria's official language. The issue is we should put in as much effort to learn,write and speak our indigenous languages. 1 Like |
Re: Nigeria's Disappearing Languages by Nobody: 9:37pm On Nov 14, 2013 |
Joavid: This is a serious matter but true. What have you gained from learning how to read and write yoruba and how is it a disadvantage to someone that doesnt (but perhaps reads and writes mandarin or french)? |
Re: Nigeria's Disappearing Languages by Nobody: 9:41pm On Nov 14, 2013 |
Joavid:you dont need to put effort to get people to do it. People will naturally do it if that is good for them. You are going to waste your time with those effort because the very objects of those efforts dont care. You are just sentimental about it. |
Re: Nigeria's Disappearing Languages by Nobody: 9:50pm On Nov 14, 2013 |
There is hope then! The trend is good for Nigeria. That means future generations will know only one language and that will reduce the ethnic divisions that have destroyed Nigeria over the years. |
Re: Nigeria's Disappearing Languages by Nobody: 9:58pm On Nov 14, 2013 |
EBK2: I read,write and speak french and I had the roots from that same secondary school. Mandarin languages is what am taking up next. I speak igbo as well and it is never a waste. |
Re: Nigeria's Disappearing Languages by macof(m): 10:00pm On Nov 14, 2013 |
EBK2: There is hope then! The trend is good for Nigeria. That means future generations will know only one language and that will reduce the ethnic divisions that have destroyed Nigeria over the years. Ethnic division has destroyed Nigeria was Nigeria not a land area of different ethnic groups from the beginning? U think Nigeria is a country of same people, same culture, same language U lack sense, u think if Spain,Portugal and France had been merged by force their languages would be known? U mentioned Irish not knowing their language, I know a woman from Celtic who wishes she could speak her language over English. There's pride in self independence and knowledge of personal identity. I can never give up Yoruba, because generations to come would wish I kept it strong for them 2 Likes |
Re: Nigeria's Disappearing Languages by Nobody: 10:48pm On Nov 14, 2013 |
EBK2:Kaiii! This is one of the reasons I hate to banter words with nairalanders. What did I say? And what are you saying? Or perhaps you have a problem with comprehension?? |
Re: Nigeria's Disappearing Languages by Nimen(m): 10:57pm On Nov 14, 2013 |
Segeggs: shut up you bloody liar! thatz completely wrong the last time a 9ice song sold was Gonga aso, i don't listen to much Flavour buh every of his track is a hit track, don't worry you'll dance ada ada on friday night. Without Igbo and Yoruba tribes there'll be nothing called the entertainment industry in Nigeria if there is it will be at the same scale with Zimbabwean industry and 60% of people who built the Nigerian Entertainment industry are igbos pls learn to respect other tribes |
Re: Nigeria's Disappearing Languages by Nimen(m): 11:18pm On Nov 14, 2013 |
Segeggs: yoruba is spoken in benin, togo, ivoqy coast, brazil, cuba, jamaica etc so 9ice's music has a wider prospect of global acceptance than flavour's music which doesnt exceed alaigbo making him a regional star. another lie... I have yoruba and efik friends who bring these songs to me so i can translate it for them buh please don't get ahead of yourself, less than five hundred people speak yoruba in the americas while in WAfrica only Togo and parts of Benin speak Yoruba. Igbo people are well traveled and they listen to Igbo songs wherever they are plus most parts of Jamaica and Sierra Leone speak Igbo |
Re: Nigeria's Disappearing Languages by hunter21(m): 11:19pm On Nov 14, 2013 |
ochallo: If those languages were useful, they would not disappear, while languages are disappearing, people are learning other languages. The best thing you can do for your child is to teach him fluent English without the hausa or igbo accent(base language), chinese (second best option) , french or spanish*( third best), german or korean or greek or hindi (fourth category).SLAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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