Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by iamoyindamola(m): 9:46pm On Oct 02 |
abduleez1: I don even forget say na Halloween month we dey so.....
But how come LONGLEGS and ODDITY are missing??👀🤔🧐 Funny thing is I haven't seen none of the listed |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by abduleez1(m): 9:52pm On Oct 02 |
pu7pl3:
This one is different from the boys bro. Just look at their faces, this is pure horror Abeg. Lol..... This one no spooky na... 😂 Na small psychology. Better yet, use that animation wey I post for series thread hold body first. After you mature from that one, you proceed to more m@ture tale. |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by abduleez1(m): 9:54pm On Oct 02 |
iamoyindamola:
Funny thing is I haven't seen none of the listed Same here. Downloaded LONGLEGS and ODDITY. Have Alien: Romulus, Exhuma and I Saw The TV Glow on radar. |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by iamoyindamola(m): 10:00pm On Oct 02 |
abduleez1:
Same here. Downloaded LONGLEGS and ODDITY.
Have Alien: Romulus, Exhuma and I Saw The TV Glow on radar. Have saved the image I will search for them tomorrow |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by pu7pl3(m): 10:41pm On Oct 02 |
abduleez1:
Lol..... This one no spooky na... 😂 Na small psychology.
Better yet, use that animation wey I post for series thread hold body first. After you mature from that one, you proceed to more m@ture tale. The person wey create that Animé really needs to visit a therapist. No Cap. |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by Remmedy(m): 10:43pm On Oct 02 |
Deadpool Wolverine solid 7/10 |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by Westman001: 11:03pm On Oct 02 |
Deadpool Wolverine 6/10
That rating is for the fact that it wasn't boring.
Is it a solid movie - NO. |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by SOZINN: 12:10am On Oct 03 |
Illusioneffect:
The movie didn't even have a specific story, it was like he was dreaming and singing all throughout the film. Before you know it, the movie turned to a court room drama kendrick9: You will be disappointed then. This one is Courtroom drama + musical. The first Joker was overrated anyway.. It had only one memorable scene In that case, I'll have to steer clear of the sequel. If that is the direction in which they intend to narrate his story, then this iteration of the Joker does not align with my preferences. The only reason I overlooked this dumb idea was due to the fact that the first one was an origin account. I figured I failed to grasp the essence of the Joker because he was merely in his nascent stage. While the portrayal of the decline of an Ill-treated disturbed individual makes for a compelling movie, in my opinion, that storyline is only suitable as an origin tale for the Joker. Frankly, I had been anticipating his breakout from Arkham and subsequent chaos in Gotham, followed by the entire GPD's endeavor to apprehend him without Batman's involvement. Additionally, the prospect of his collaboration with Harley Quinn intrigued me. I am not interested in stories that merely present a delusional underachiever with the "Joker" label without substance. There are numerous other captivating interpretations from which this concept was copied, and I can readily explore and appreciate a few of them without delving into CBL. 1 Like |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by Illusioneffect(m): 12:16am On Oct 03 |
NaijaMemes:
Ah, yes Bob Hearts Abishola. The comedy with the most atrocious Nigerian accents? Remember Bob is a white man. The Nigerian sarcasm and quest for excellence is dialled up to the extreme. Remember that the Bob character is a white man. I see the show as a white man's struggle to date someone with a foreign culture to America. A white man is even the best to direct it.
America is diverse but not so much that Nigerians make a significant influence in the same way Mexicans, Indians, Chinese and certain Europeans do.
For instance, how many Nigerian restaurants would you see on a high street compared to Chinese, Italian and Mexican? Hmm?
The Idris Elba and John Boyega both flop when it comes to Nigerian accents. They both do American gangsta accents better. Boyega even tried a bit in Woman King.
Countries have heritage. No one will tell your story better than you.
Just even look at Nigerians today. We are sold the story of Jews being the chosen ones. Look at how foolish Nigerian Christians support isreal claiming that Muslims or Ishmaelites cannot hurt isreal because God is the protector of Israel. Lol.
African history has been whitewashed by the west. Forgive me if I doubt that the same people will do well to tell a Nigerian colonial story well.
Just even look at Black Panther. I loved the movie but I realised that the villain was the guy that was ready to retaliate against colonialism. T'challa didn't care about racism or colonialism. Killmonger even pointed out how cultural artifacts from Africa were stolen by the British. Black Panther was directed by an African American. Maybe an African director would have the anti-colonianist be the hero....or maybe not as he could be one of those white-worshipping Nigerian Conservatives
oyaskii:
Bob ❤️ Abishola is the absolute worst project to drive home your point, because 5 episodes into season 1, i couldn't stand how cringe it was. They were trying too hard and it came out blatantly pretentious. There are tons of articles that criticize them for it and i culled one from medium below. The comedy holds up, but beyond that, i.e. trying to infuse the Yoruba culture and all that, was total garbage and cringeworthy.
That being said, you can't just wake up and make a movie or write a book about a totally different culture, because you love the culture, it doesn't work that way. Culture is a lived experience and you can't properly portray an experience you haven't lived, you might deceive yourself all you want, and people not wanting you, who haven't lived their experiences to tell their story, is not racism except racism has another meaning. It is a condescending mentality that makes Hollywood think they can tell stories of other cultures without fuss, if a Nambian director wants to do a JKF story in Namibia, sorry, he will be vallified from here to Timbuktu for it!.
Hollywood is multifaceted given, but when stories about mexicans, Indians, Brits, or Jews, are being made, you actually see the effort that goes into it. They research, meet with locals, go to actual locations about the culture to shoot and they come out good because it is a true representation but you see stories concerning Africa or Nigeria per se, they can't actually be arsed to come here and do any proper research. They just find a film head that is British Nigerian or American Nigerian who has probably lived there all his/her life to spew some nonsense about Nigerian culture, and they slap the person's native name on the credits and call it a day. The opening scene of Captain America: Civil War (2016) was supposedly an open market in Lagos, Nigeria, and these people couldn't be arsed to come here and shoot, and they just simulated it in Atlanta, Georgia and kept it moving.
So, no matter the defence you put up, people having a bone to pick about one of Nigerian favorite book being given an Hollywood treatment are in the right. The premise of the books takes place in "Iguedo" in the Umuofia clan in south east Nigeria, so i am close to 100% sure, that they are not stepping foot here to shoot, so they will simulate "Iguedo", Umuofia clan, in America, and to you that will be the true representation of the book, because according to you, "They love the culture"
Abeg Abeg...They have bought the rights to the book and no lamentations will change it, my own is that, they had better not fail....😒 It looks like you guys don't really get my point at all🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️ and honestly I won't try to write a whole essay on the subject anymore. My whole point is IF THEY ARE SPIRITED AND DRIVEN ENOUGH TO MAKE A 'THINGS FALL APART SERIES' - being American or British or Yoruba or another culture shouldn't and should never be a cause or deterrent to shame them into thinking they won't do a good job - how can you guys not actually see that? Have Hollywood made mistakes in adapting African cultures? Of course!! Could they make exactly the same mistakes? Yes! and could it even be worse? Yes! But does that mean they should stop trying? Of course No! How can you say Hollywood should stop 'cultural appropriation' and adapting African series because they can't get our accents🤦🏽♂️. There're not a lot of African shows and movies from Hollywood because of this constant complain - it's still a learning process. Do you actually think they would just get the 'African formula' instantly? Just thirty years ago - Hollywood tried adapting Japanese stories into movies and they were receiving significant backlash because they were never accurate. Jump to 2024 - Shogun is receiving the most awards in the Emmys.🤷🏽♂️ Being accurate is awesome but it takes time🤷🏽♂️ they may not get everything right but it'll certainly be an improvement. Bro, they've not even announced anything except the show-runners and you guys are already huffing and puffing. Have you guys not actually thought about the significance to Nollywood if this series does well at all?👀 Or you guys think it's 10 naira they use to make films? Be smart! Everything is about money - if this show does well- Hollywood will start taking a closer look on Nigerian stories - that way - it'll ensure they get better in adapting them🤷🏽♂️. In turn Nollywood will see a significant boom in quality because of investments - that'll never happen if Nollywood adapts the story itself 1 Like |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by Illusioneffect(m): 12:36am On Oct 03 |
oyaskii:
The opening scene of Captain America: Civil War (2016) was supposedly an open market in Lagos, Nigeria, and these people couldn't be arsed to come here and shoot, and they just simulated it in Atlanta, Georgia and kept it moving.
🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️ I've been speaking to someone who doesn't know shit about Hollywood by the way. You actually think it would make more sense to 1. fly to a country none of the A-list celebrities have ever been to in the middle of Boko-Haran pandemic - 2. put them in significant danger 3. Fly filming equipments worth millions 4. Close down a market for months (EXACTLY! and pay everyone of them) 5. Report directly to the Lagos State Government (who have no significant laws when it comes to this sort of thing) 6. Build massive sets so the Twitter race dividers and baiters will be proud 7. Cause significant chaos because it'll be very difficult to shoot considering it's Lagos All to shoot a less than 10 minute scene because folks like you'd be annoyed and enraged on Twitter when they can do the exact same scene in a studio for less than 1% of the budget. I can't believe you don't understand the concept of money🤦🏽♂️ If there's a significant audience for a show - it'll get the attention of investors and that always ALWAYS makes a show better - The Things Fall Apart series can be a significant boom to Nollywood writers or directors looking for an opportunity🤷🏽♂️ 2 Likes |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by jikins(m): 1:06am On Oct 03 |
oyaskii:
Bob ❤️ Abishola is the absolute worst project to drive home your point, because 5 episodes into season 1, i couldn't stand how cringe it was. They were trying too hard and it came out blatantly pretentious. There are tons of articles that criticize them for it and i culled one from medium below. The comedy holds up, but beyond that, i.e. trying to infuse the Yoruba culture and all that, was total garbage and cringeworthy.
That being said, you can't just wake up and make a movie or write a book about a totally different culture, because you love the culture, it doesn't work that way. Culture is a lived experience and you can't properly portray an experience you haven't lived, you might deceive yourself all you want, and people not wanting you, who haven't lived their experiences to tell their story, is not racism except racism has another meaning. It is a condescending mentality that makes Hollywood think they can tell stories of other cultures without fuss, if a Nambian director wants to do a JKF story in Namibia, sorry, he will be vallified from here to Timbuktu for it!.
Hollywood is multifaceted given, but when stories about mexicans, Indians, Brits, or Jews, are being made, you actually see the effort that goes into it. They research, meet with locals, go to actual locations about the culture to shoot and they come out good because it is a true representation but you see stories concerning Africa or Nigeria per se, they can't actually be arsed to come here and do any proper research. They just find a film head that is British Nigerian or American Nigerian who has probably lived there all his/her life to spew some nonsense about Nigerian culture, and they slap the person's native name on the credits and call it a day. The opening scene of Captain America: Civil War (2016) was supposedly an open market in Lagos, Nigeria, and these people couldn't be arsed to come here and shoot, and they just simulated it in Atlanta, Georgia and kept it moving.
So, no matter the defence you put up, people having a bone to pick about one of Nigerian favorite book being given an Hollywood treatment are in the right. The premise of the books takes place in "Iguedo" in the Umuofia clan in south east Nigeria, so i am close to 100% sure, that they are not stepping foot here to shoot, so they will simulate "Iguedo", Umuofia clan, in America, and to you that will be the true representation of the book, because according to you, "They love the culture"
Abeg Abeg...They have bought the rights to the book and no lamentations will change it, my own is that, they had better not fail....😒 I don't agree they have to come to Nigeria to shoot that scene in Captain America. It makes more sense for them not to security issues aside. Its an unnecessary cost. It's not the first time Hollywood movies have simulated locations in a different country before. Heck they have even simulated locations in the US when filming is majorly in a different country. Even recently the new TWD spinoff which is filmed in France simulated locations in the US you don't see anyone crying about it. But I do agree they need to do better research when it comes to Africa, but to be fair we aren't their main audience. Their main audiences don't really care too much how accurate their portrayal is to a large extent because they too are ignorant. Also a Nambian director can do whatever he wants, if it will sell to his main audience. It's 2024 nothing you do will be accepted by everyone but as long as you are smiling to the bank who cares really. |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by abduleez1(m): 2:43am On Oct 03 |
pu7pl3:
The person wey create that Animé really needs to visit a therapist. No Cap. Lmao.... See as you make me dey laugh like mad man inside this early morning.. 😅😂 |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by abduleez1(m): 3:12am On Oct 03 |
Illusioneffect:
🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️ I've been speaking to someone who doesn't know shit about Hollywood by the way. You actually think it would make more sense to
4. Close down a market for months (EXACTLY! and pay everyone of them) 5. Report directly to the Lagos State Government (who have no significant laws when it comes to this sort of thing)
7. Cause significant chaos because it'll be very difficult to shoot considering it's Lagos
I strongly disagree with you on these points... The local industry ain't as backward as you think. Having been on an international standard movie set for 3 months here in Nigeria I'll tell you you're very wrong. Communication with the Lagos state government and various agencies was mostly a smooth ride. We shot at various high density locations in Lagos...closed off roads partially and/or fully for a few days during our course of shooting. In fact, we shot on the third mainland bridge a few hours. With not much hiccups. We didn't need to close down a huge market for months. Just a day was needed and a very tiny section with adequate collaboration with LASTMA, Police, private security and the market people and all necessary agencies or collaborators. And we didn't need to pay off everyone. We had our own extras to portray market people the way we liked in our own controlled settings. We did all these without even delaying our original scheduled date to wrap up production. Almost seemed like a miracle to me sef. So there's not much of a big deal here if you want to go serious in shooting a movie in Lagos or Nigeria at large. It just all boils down to serious planning and scheduling and division of labour. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by abduleez1(m): 3:44am On Oct 03 |
Happy Birthday Queen....
Love her wonderful smile. Always dey gimme joy. |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by armadeo(m): 5:50am On Oct 03 |
Remmedy: Deadpool Wolverine solid 7/10 As I saw solid ohbritannia came to mind. 1 Like |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by NaijaMemes: 6:45am On Oct 03 |
Illusioneffect:
It looks like you guys don't really get my point at all🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️ and honestly I won't try to write a whole essay on the subject anymore.
My whole point is IF THEY ARE SPIRITED AND DRIVEN ENOUGH TO MAKE A 'THINGS FALL APART SERIES' - being American or British or Yoruba or another culture shouldn't and should never be a cause or deterrent to shame them into thinking they won't do a good job - how can you guys not actually see that?
Have Hollywood made mistakes in adapting African cultures? Of course!! Could they make exactly the same mistakes? Yes! and could it even be worse? Yes! But does that mean they should stop trying? Of course No!
How can you say Hollywood should stop 'cultural appropriation' and adapting African series because they can't get our accents🤦🏽♂️. There're not a lot of African shows and movies from Hollywood because of this constant complain - it's still a learning process. Do you actually think they would just get the 'African formula' instantly?
Just thirty years ago - Hollywood tried adapting Japanese stories into movies and they were receiving significant backlash because they were never accurate. Jump to 2024 - Shogun is receiving the most awards in the Emmys.🤷🏽♂️
Being accurate is awesome but it takes time🤷🏽♂️ they may not get everything right but it'll certainly be an improvement. Bro, they've not even announced anything except the show-runners and you guys are already huffing and puffing. Have you guys not actually thought about the significance to Nollywood if this series does well at all?👀 Or you guys think it's 10 naira they use to make films? Be smart! Everything is about money - if this show does well- Hollywood will start taking a closer look on Nigerian stories - that way - it'll ensure they get better in adapting them🤷🏽♂️. In turn Nollywood will see a significant boom in quality because of investments - that'll never happen if Nollywood adapts the story itself
Simple and short- you are right: Hollywood can make an adaptation of a Nigerian story. However, it serves us best to do our own stories properly. |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by NaijaMemes: 6:49am On Oct 03 |
abduleez1:
That Bob Hearts Abishola is a very weak choice of project. Back then when it was just fresh I saw a few clips of it and I hated it automatically. The Nigerian accents was annoying and off-putting and I don't even see it as a representation of anything Nigeria.
Accents are the easiest way to turn me off any Hollywood project pretending to be authentic to the culture. You can do your shït without the pretentious accents and get the history or facts right, and I won't complain. But when you force yourself doing a stupid @ss accent that's never gonna fool me one bit, that's where I have the problem with. Boyega in Woman King is the closest I feel Hollywood has tried to nail the accent thingy but I still found it cringe. There's some point when some of these accents now looks like a mockery.
These type of Nigerians are the most annoying and gullible set of buffoons I've ever come across. The ones of this subset that pisses me off the most are the educated illiterates who says "Israel can defeat the USA in a war because the lord promised them to be undefeated". The same Israel that the US ensures and insures its existence? Same Israel that has been beaten black and blue since time immemorial in the same bible by Assyrians and what nots. Same Israelites that was chased away from the "promised land" and dispersed across the globe for a thousand years.....a strange precursor to Nazi Germany ethnic cleansing of Jews.
When I say Black Panther movie is a peak product of pandering to Africans or blacks and doesn't move me, people think it's cos of DC vs Marvel sentiments. The movie is good but a cultural appropriation I feel no connection whatsoever to. And anyone trying to feed me tales with how historic it is to the Black race ain't convincing me shït.
I've never felt that movie represented me as an African and in fact I felt it and it's sequel very pretentious with the African culture. Excuse me but I find that African country with world beating technological advancements theme overtly exaggerated and appeasement to make us feel important or feel better with our failures. If they portray Africa as an advanced civilization above most parts of the world in the form of Ancient Egypt before the Ptolemaic Era, then I can accept that tale of tech superiority. Or even the Benin Empire, Oyo Empire. Mansa Musa, the undefeated Ethiopians etc..
And the funny subtle theme most people fail to see about the Black Panther stories is that it all still boils down to how the white man sees us a "natural resource rich region" a la VIBRANIUM.
They just can't see us outside the lens of mineral resource rich. I agree with what you are saying on this topic. I just hope that others can see that we need to start doing our own things on an international level. |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by Remmedy(m): 8:35am On Oct 03 |
armadeo:
As I saw solid ohbritannia came to mind. lol The movie was just there but not bad as people here are saying .. Definitely need a subtitle to enjoy because deadpool talks fast and a lot .. |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by Illusioneffect(m): 10:48am On Oct 03 |
NaijaMemes:
Simple and short- you are right: Hollywood can make an adaptation of a Nigerian story. However, it serves us best to do our own stories properly.
Thank you |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by Illusioneffect(m): 10:54am On Oct 03 |
abduleez1:
I strongly disagree with you on these points... The local industry ain't as backward as you think.
Having been on an international standard movie set for 3 months here in Nigeria I'll tell you you're very wrong.
Communication with the Lagos state government and various agencies was mostly a smooth ride.
We shot at various high density locations in Lagos...closed off roads partially and/or fully for a few days during our course of shooting. In fact, we shot on the third mainland bridge a few hours. With not much hiccups.
We didn't need to close down a huge market for months. Just a day was needed and a very tiny section with adequate collaboration with LASTMA, Police, private security and the market people and all necessary agencies or collaborators. And we didn't need to pay off everyone. We had our own extras to portray market people the way we liked in our own controlled settings.
We did all these without even delaying our original scheduled date to wrap up production. Almost seemed like a miracle to me sef.
So there's not much of a big deal here if you want to go serious in shooting a movie in Lagos or Nigeria at large. It just all boils down to serious planning and scheduling and division of labour. You could be right but you can't compare shooting a Marvel movie to this - it'd be very dumb for them to shoot here and besides there are a lot of regulations and restrictions for shooting outside the US and Western countries |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by Kaycee7(m): 2:01pm On Oct 03 |
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Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by NobleStag007: 2:06pm On Oct 03 |
It's very annoying that some of us here are always basing our review of a movie based on another person (supposed experts or whatever) view. It's annoying.
Watch, understand then tell us what you think about the movie..that's what review is.
YOUR OWN OPINION FA! |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by Kaycee7(m): 2:11pm On Oct 03 |
abduleez1: Happy Birthday Queen....
Love her wonderful smile. Always dey gimme joy. She definitely got that girl-next-door look |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by avast01(m): 3:37pm On Oct 03 |
The Wasp 2024
Fantastic thriller Gripping, interesting and unpredictable 1 Like |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by oyaskii(m): 4:21pm On Oct 03 |
abduleez1: Happy Birthday Queen....
Love her wonderful smile. Always dey gimme joy. Although she has been in various writers room, I remember her big break coming on to replace Jenny Slate as "Missy" on " Big Mouth", a controversial casting to walk into then, with Jenny Slate leaving the role, feeling uneasy voicing a black character whilst been very very white. Ayo took on the role like a champ and made it her own amidst the noise. Then she went to totally smash it on " The Bear" and a deserved Emmy followed. I might be off mark here, but I'd like to think she is truly one of the "bankable actress" in Hollywood right now, and at 29, she might look like a " late bloomer" in this industry but to me this is just the beginning of greatness! And as you rightly alluded, that infectious smile completes it all, so what's there not to like about her? Happy Birthday Queen 👑🎁. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by oyaskii(m): 4:52pm On Oct 03 |
jikins:
I don't agree they have to come to Nigeria to shoot that scene in Captain America. It makes more sense for them not to security issues aside. Its an unnecessary cost. It's not the first time Hollywood movies have simulated locations in a different country before. Heck they have even simulated locations in the US when filming is majorly in a different country. Even recently the new TWD spinoff which is filmed in France simulated locations in the US you don't see anyone crying about it. You misconstrued the point i was trying to make with this analogy. But I do agree they need to do better research when it comes to Africa, but to be fair we aren't their main audience. Their main audiences don't really care too much how accurate their portrayal is to a large extent because they too are ignorant. Also a Nambian director can do whatever he wants, if it will sell to his main audience. It's 2024 nothing you do will be accepted by everyone but as long as you are smiling to the bank who cares really. If we aren't the audience or at least part, of a book to screen adaptation of probably one of the best literary work to come out of this continent and one book that is at the zenith of pan African literature, then i rest my case and there is no point battering on. They should do as they please. |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by abduleez1(m): 5:17pm On Oct 03 |
Kaycee7: Have you finally watched the prequel TV show? Or you're still dragging your feet? Lol, I never still watch am oo. But shey me and you been discuss the show before? Cos I no remember again sef. |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by Kaycee7(m): 5:23pm On Oct 03 |
abduleez1:
Lol, I never still watch am oo. But shey me and you been discuss the show before? Cos I no remember again sef.
I think I recommended the show to you at some point |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by abduleez1(m): 5:29pm On Oct 03 |
Kaycee7: She definitely got that girl-next-door look She does?? I know she's pretty and got that nerdy vibes. |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by abduleez1(m): 5:30pm On Oct 03 |
Kaycee7: I think I recommended the show to you at some point
I see. What's the show about sef cos this trailer is pretty vague? |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by Kaycee7(m): 6:00pm On Oct 03 |
abduleez1:
I see. What's the show about sef cos this trailer is pretty vague? A nameless medicine man who travels through historical Japan encountering otherworldly creatures and events, sometimes having to vanquish them. The show is an acid trip with its visuals and the narrative style demands your attention. |
Re: What Movie Are You Watching Now? by Kaycee7(m): 6:02pm On Oct 03 |
abduleez1:
She does??
I know she's pretty and got that nerdy vibes. Yep! She has that familiar face that feels like you've seen her somewhere before even though you're seeing her for the first time |