desh: Let me add 2d fun by saying, compare d leadership of an hnd grad OBJ n our dearest Prof. GEJ. Sincerely btw d 2 whose ideology handled d nation best n who practicalized privatization with recorded success? To me, it doesn't mata wot u carry for paper...na wetin u get for HEAD n can deliver. We just have some overpriced education a times.

Amuche Jane: If you check very well, you will see that just few of you guys are arguing about this issue and some of you are still student, wetin una know self. Some of una mate don get 2 or 3 degree, that person with HND can still get that Bsc if he/her likes, education dey finish? No, is only when you get tired of schooling or no money for you to read more. Uni or poly will not stop you from been whom you will be in life. Somepeople just dey make noise here, abeg make I hear word o.

anienge001: The arrogance and narrow-mindedness displayed on this thread is appalling. We should all be thinking about the usefulness of the knowledge acquired from each institution(Poly/Uni) and not which is superior. What is the usefulness of a BSc graduate who can't prepare simple chemical solutions for SS3 practicals, but depends on an OND holder? What use is B.Eng when the holder can't interpret a technical drawing but depends on the expertise of a draughtsman? Aside the pride we all carry and the artificial disparity created by myopic politicians, how does the degree we hold(HND or BSc) contribute to our national growth?
Any country the desire sincere economic growth should focus on those who can build and not those who sit in their offices with over blown egos.

NB: I came from both worlds, I can tell you all, this is a useless debate and it has been over flocked here.

Amuche Jane: very correct. We have ppl with Bsc that can't even read or write well. When you get to NYSC camp, check the educated illiterate there and see that they are almost uni product. The man thing in life is to know what you are doing well. I no a guy with ND that went for his IT in one company and they refuse him going because he is good. That guy has built a house and has a car, by now he should be through with his part-time program. My younger brother finished his ND in PTI (marketing) but a final year student from UNN could not defeat him. No be Bsc holders dey ride bike and keke?where u see the job self. My own be say, be good at which ever course you are studying, uni or poly. What will be will be, just focus.

Anvaller: Relax guys,

From what I have seen from the arguments here, everything still boil down at typical Naija mentality. Some with university degree are trying hard to rubbish HND so they can feel important with their university degrees, whereas we should be discussing the real issues, in the real sense of things, an HND certificate might be more relevant and regarded than even a BSC depending on specialization.

HND is equivalent to BSC in terms of level of education achieved. Hnd graduates have attained the same level of education as BSC graduates the only difference is that u have both studied for different purposes. Nigerian government needs to restructure and improve our educational system because believe me guys, even university education in Nigeria is absolute crap, it is just funny that some university folks are talking down poly folks. One thing u don't know is that u just think u are better cos the society makes u think u are better. Whether university or poly, u are all products of an archaic dysfunctional educational system. Those who have got some good education abroad can tell me if I am lying.

Guys, pls lets move beyond discrimination it ruins as us as a ppl. The question we should be asking here is why do we have polytechnics and universities? what are their responsibilities in the job market. Come and look at sectors like construction, oil and gas, engineering etc in North America. The guys from technical colleges grab the most opportunities. In fact the industry needs them the most and they earn big. Much bigger than what any white collar buddy can earn in several years of working. So guys instead of discriminating and condemning some ppl, may be we should be asking our government to put our education in the right place. And provide environment for industries that will absorb them.

aydrees09: Y are these guys (HND grads) ranting like they were forced to go to polytechnic. I'm sure your parents wanted you to go to a UNIVERSITY

Igholize: ...... Yea bro,,, u re on point nd been rational... U ve said it all nd 4rm all u ve said, no sentiments been attached. An engr, technologist nd even technicians nd craftmens ve various role 2 play in executing engineerin projects, combination of dis proffesionals makes d building project or construction of a road 2 b errected nd acheived... So, d glory shouldn't be given 2 d engr but all proffesionals involved. Am a practicing civil engr nd in engineering, we do not bliv in bsc or hnd, we bliv in theorotical knowledge I.e, been able 2 design, interprete nd analyse nd practical knowledge I.e, been able 2 transfer all wot's on d design on ground... So,all proffesional bodies in d engineering sector re significants because dey ve a vital role dey played in acheiving or seein a project done... all u folks should stop using engineerin as a yardstick 4 dis arguement. I salute una

ndidibabe: You NO a guy? With your poor construction of English, one might just conclude that the HND certificate is a joke.

dejt4u: Help me tell this guy ooo. What are dey doin in polytechnics... Jst practicals..na only practical we go eat?? Abeg, 4get dis shit nd face d reality of life.. No wonder my parents hate polytechnic...
Na naija we dey ooo.. Polytechnic ko monotechnic ni

#bizfirst#:
Nigerians are always confused and are found of attaching value where none exists! To the best of my knowledge, polytechnic graduates beat their university counterparts in vocational and technical courses any day, any time. The universities should even be proud they are equated to polytechnics...SMH!

zebra: He told u guys he was a given a direct MS in the US with his HND, and u're asking him of PGD. He meant that he didn't have to do a PGD.

MicroBox: Carry your HND.go look for admission. I am assuring you 200L
For masters, that one from PGD
And for ......

kazyhm:
How, whr ?
Ppl jst conclude on issues anyhw
Anyways, I studied geomatics engring, during my SIWES d so called HND +advance diploma in d same field dn't knw half of what we were taught in skul
Thr a learner I area lyk mining, photogrametry, remote sensing plenty bt to mention few
Bt vry good in cadastra
Well, still thinkin of whch area a polytechnic graduate ll beat me in my field.

zebra: Please, if World Educational Services (WES), a US educational evaluation agency could evaluate a Nigerian HND certificate and say it is equivalent to a 4-year Bsc Degree, what then is the problem of Nigeria and Nigerians? Many HND holders have had their transcripts evaluated by WES and the outcomes have been that the Nigerian HND is equivalent to a Bsc Degree. What then is making Nigeria to still discriminate against Nigerian HND holders? Try evaluating ur Bsc or HND certificate with www.wes.org and see. Or, is it that they don't know what they are doing?

thepathologist:
that is isolated case. course contents depend human resources. for example, in lautech,elect and elect department does not sound course content in electronics and some polytechnics have good lecturers in electronics.

thepathologist:
that is isolated case. course contents depend human resources. for example, in lautech,elect and elect department does not sound course content in electronics and some polytechnics have good lecturers in electronics.

walezy14: Hnd vs B.sc palavar.
1.85% of 1st and 2nd class university graduates are ND Diplomate. I stand to be corrected.
2. A 400 level civil engineering student who couldnt recognised levelling instrument. Is applicable to 90% university graduates.
3. Hnd at ibadan poly organized structural design tutorial for part 4 and 5 civil engineering students of UI.
4. I glanced thru a friend M.sc year 2 handout in professional practice and procedure (q.s), out of 12 topics in the handout, i have been taught 11 topics at hnd 2 level. Very funny.
In Conclusion, hnd vs bsc is just certificate stigma.

gbengress1: After running through several posts on this topic, some things were crystal clear;
1. The Op is an HND holder
2.HND holders majorly base their arguments on US standards and informal statistics.
Now to my contribution, it is rather unfortunate that most people just jump into illogical conclusions that polytechnic graduates perform better in ICAN and other accounting related professional exams without any official statistics.
For your information, best students in the university are mostly chartered before the completion 4year programmes in the university.
More so, most of you always give much credence to YABATECH accounting graduates to the extent of even saying they are better than university graduates. YABATECH students can testify to the fact that they have hosted two consecutive accounting competitions involving polytechnics and universities which universities have always emerged as the winner. The most funniest part of it is that, the top 3 schools in the competitions were always universities.
During my days in the uni, polytechnic school has never emerge as the winner of any accounting quiz competition.

gbengress1: After running through several posts on this topic, some things were crystal clear;
1. The Op is an HND holder
2.HND holders majorly base their arguments on US standards and informal statistics.
Now to my contribution, it is rather unfortunate that most people just jump into illogical conclusions that polytechnic graduates perform better in ICAN and other accounting related professional exams without any official statistics.
For your information, best students in the university are mostly chartered before the completion 4year programmes in the university.
More so, most of you always give much credence to YABATECH accounting graduates to the extent of even saying they are better than university graduates. YABATECH students can testify to the fact that they have hosted two consecutive accounting competitions involving polytechnics and universities which universities have always emerged as the winner. The most funniest part of it is that, the top 3 schools in the competitions were always universities.
During my days in the uni, polytechnic school has never emerge as the winner of any accounting quiz competition.

thepathologist:
you are deceiving urself. worldwide hnd and bsc are equivalent. hnd holders can become directors and boss over bsc graduates.

dejt4u: Help me tell this guy ooo. What are dey doin in polytechnics... Jst practicals..na only practical we go eat?? Abeg, 4get dis shit nd face d reality of life.. No wonder my parents hate polytechnic...
Na naija we dey ooo.. Polytechnic ko monotechnic ni