OutlukBabe:


well to me, anyone that poke his d*ck inside someone shit chute is sick wether it is with man or woman. Shit is is shit, man or woman.

;Di agree with you jare my sister

OutlukBabe:

What is it then if it is not about sex? homo[b]sex[/b]uality. can't u see what is there - it didnt say homofrienshibility so that we know it is all about hanging out in a bar, drink some bottle of bears, watch football, go home and watch Indecency and self-service yourself. It is not friendship. If it is not about sex and friendship then we may say all men are homos, but this is about putting some d*ick inside another man, muscle tight, veins lined shit box

men this your explanation is graphic illustration at its most vivid, talk about vivi imagination

In the neck of my wood, practice homosexuality at your peril. Animals are termed not to be civilized and yet they do not indulge in the act of homosexuality. Why in God’s name should human beings who have conquered civilization indulge in the act of homosexuality?

Homosexualism in Nigeria?  One nation under God.

It should be against the law in a strongly devoted state of worship like Nigeria where religious doctrines strictly denounce and oppose the practice.

Did u guys not go to boarding school in Nigeria. I did and saw many homo acts by students who are probably married with kids today. Some like it short, some like it long, some like it dark, some like it light. Each to his own, who are we to judge.

okunoba:

Did u guys not go to boarding school in Nigeria. I did and saw many homo acts by students who are probably married with kids today. Some like it short, some like it long, some like it dark, some like it light. Each to his own, who are we to judge.

some are probably pretending to be married bros

okunoba:

Did u guys not go to boarding school in Nigeria. I did and saw many homo acts by students who are probably married with kids today. Some like it short, some like it long, some like it dark, some like it light. Each to his own, who are we to judge.

I attended boarding school system in Nigeria and did not notice any act of homosexuality. Unless you are a participant in such a horrible act, you will not notice it as in the context of Nigeria. Friends holding hands together while working on the street could not be considered an indicator of homosexual act because many Nigerians were oblivion to such act. I did not know that homosexual or even divorcee existed until I left shores of the jungle called Nigeria.

from Dede1
Unless you are a participant in such a horrible act

Who are u to judge? u so quick to put others down. Awolowo provided free education to ur parents yet u run him down. na wa for u o.

okunoba:

from Dede1
Unless you are a participant in such a horrible act

Who are u to judge? u so quick to put others down. Awolowo provided free education to ur parents yet u run him down. na wa for u o.

If I may recall correctly, it is truly yours that persecuted and sentenced to life the few fortunate Nigerians who attended boarding school as homosexuals. Be mindful that you claimed you saw. I deduced that one can only see the action or act if one was a participant. I had to burst your bubble by informing you that my entire family never benefited from the madness called free-education you claimed Awolowo provided.

you sleep in an open hall in the boarding school so it is normal to see these things. i remember some boys go as far using eye shadows those days. i am talking the 1970's here

from DEDE1
Be mindful that you claimed you saw. I deduced that one can only see the action or act if one was a participant.

If I saw super eagles play against England does that mean I also played in the game? Your logic is interesting. if I saw a man steal that makes me a thief also. Where is the logic. To see something is not the same as to participate. If ur parents or anybody in your family went to school in western Nigeria in the sixties they definitely benefited from Awolowo`s free education. Where is the anger from?

It should be against the law in a strongly devoted state of worship like Nigeria where religious doctrines strictly denounce and oppose the practice.

Nigeria is constitutionally a secular country so we are dangerously becoming a theocratic country if homophobic laws are passed. how has Nigeria benefited from this devoted state of worship . i see nothing bad with homosexuality so why legislate against this

okunoba:

from DEDE1
Be mindful that you claimed you saw. I deduced that one can only see the action or act if one was a participant.

If I saw super eagles play against England does that mean I also played in the game? Your logic is interesting. if I saw a man steal that makes me a thief also. Where is the logic. To see something is not the same as to participate. If ur parents or anybody in your family went to school in western Nigeria in the sixties they definitely benefited from Awolowo`s free education. Where is the anger from?

Your sense of analogy is not only hilarious but silly. I hope that the people you saw participating in the act of homosexuality were in the stadium and being televised too. By the way, if you watch soccer matches even though you were not one of the eleven players, you participated or involved in the games. If you saw a man stealing a pack, you are an eyewitness and will be required to give evidence. A person who did not see the man stole a pack of cigar would not be involved in the case.

I do not know where you sniffed the anger from my post. For an umpteenth time, my family and I never attended any form of formal education in Western Nigeria.

bawomolo:

Nigeria is constitutionally a secular country so we are dangerously becoming a theocratic country if homophobic laws are passed. how has Nigeria benefited from this devoted state of worship . i see nothing bad with homosexuality so why legislate against this

I know you see nothing bad with homosexuality, but that makes you a needle in a haystack in a nation under God.
Secooler my foot.
Nigeria is not totally theocratic, however, there is a strong connection between church and state and the laws reflect that.   The laws are unnecessarily homophobic but do necessarily promote the morals supported by their religions.

bawomolo:

Nigeria is constitutionally a secular country so we are dangerously becoming a theocratic country if homophobic laws are passed. how has Nigeria benefited from this devoted state of worship . i see nothing bad with homosexuality so why legislate against this

Nigeria is not a constitutionally a secular state. It is a state that does not recognize one religion as official religion. The constitution recognize the existance of religion that is why sharia law and customary laws are incorporated in the constitution.

H2O2:


Nigeria is not totally theocratic, however, there is a strong connection between church and state and the laws reflect that.   The laws are unnecessarily homophobic but do necessarily promote the morals supported by their religions.

those laws are homophobic whether supported by religions or not. people seem to forget these religious books are compiled by man.  We are dangerously approaching the intolerance of Islamic republics if these laws are passed.  would you support the morals promoted by amadiora or sango worshipers??  Why oppose sharia law in the North since it supports the moral of the majority in that region.  Secularism is the best equalizer in a diverse country like Nigeria.

OutlukBabe:

Nigeria is not a constitutionally a secular state. It is a state that does not recognize one religion as official religion. The constitution recognize the existance of religion that is why sharia law and customary laws are incorporated in the constitution.

you aren't the smartest of the homophobes so let me break it down a little bit for you.   A secular state is a state that doesn't recognize religions.  The US is a secular but overwhelmingly protestant state.  Sharia law was enacted by the Northern states and not FEDERAL REPUBLIC of Nigeria.

bawomolo:

those laws are homophobic whether supported by religions or not. people seem to forget these religious books are compiled by man. We are dangerously approaching the intolerance of Islamic republics if these laws are passed. would you support the morals promoted by amadiora or sango worshipers?? Why oppose sharia law in the North since it supports the moral of the majority in that region. Secularism is the best equalizer in a diverse country like Nigeria.

you aren't the smartest of the homophobes so let me break it down a little bit for you. A secular state is a state that doesn't recognize religions. The US is a secular but overwhelmingly protestant state. Sharia law was enacted by the Northern states and not FEDERAL REPUBLIC of Nigeria.

ITK

nnenneigbo:

ITK

Hey leave bro bawo alone lol

bawomolo:

those laws are homophobic whether supported by religions or not. people seem to forget these religious books are compiled by man.

I am only familiar with one religious book, and that is the Word of the creator - God.

We are dangerously approaching the intolerance of Islamic republics if these laws are passed. would you support the morals promoted by amadiora or sango worshipers?? Why oppose sharia law in the North since it supports the moral of the majority in that region.

Touchy subject of murder. The Constitution cannot contradict itself by usurping people's rights to LIFE.

Secularism is the best equalizer in a diverse country like Nigeria.

Translation, in your opinion, you feel a secular institution is better than a theocratic one. But in my opinion, a properly governed theocracy trumps a secular institution.

H2O2:

Hey leave bro bawo alone lol

abeg no mind that winsh

I am only familiar with one religious book, and that is the Word of the creator - God.

well does that include the quoran, torah etc? this is a slippery slope if we allow religious laws into the constitution.

Translation, in your opinion, you feel a secular institution is better than a theocratic one. But in my opinion, a properly governed theocracy trumps a secular institution.

a properly governed theocracy in Nigeria? this isn't the Soweto caliphate where there is only one religion. fact remains, we shouldn't be having homophobic laws in a secular country.

H2O2:

 But in my opinion, a properly governed theocracy trumps a secular institution.

emphasis on properly governed right. . .

see that is the problem. once an improperly governed theocracy comes about,
the process is irreversible, and but for outside forces, ages will pass before secularism
makes an appearance.

It is precisely why the generals in Algeria refused to hand over power to the Islamists despite
the latter winning democratic elections.

bawomolo:

well does that include the quoran, torah etc? this is a slippery slope if we allow religious laws into the constitution.

The religious laws shouldn't exactly discriminate, but it's left to the people to pick-and-choose which ones make it into their earthly lawbooks.

a properly governed theocracy in Nigeria? this isn't the Soweto caliphate where there is only one religion. fact remains, we shouldn't be having homophobic laws in a secular country.

Secularism isn't perfect either.  We can continue to work with what we have.
The laws are not purposed to be evil, they only exist to promote the natural order of male-female interactions within Nigerian society.

doyin13:

emphasis on properly governed right. . .

Correct.


But all forms of established governments and laws are vulnerable to human reinterpretation - secular nations included.

see that is the problem. once an improperly governed theocracy comes about,
the process is irreversible, and but for outside forces, ages will pass before secularism
makes an appearance.

Since the process is already in motion and is irreversible as you mentioned, we can fight for ways to make it better instead of zapping it in favor of a societal experiment that is not promised to work better.

H2O2:

The religious laws shouldn't exactly discriminate, but it's left to the people to pick-and-choose which ones make it into their earthly lawbooks.

hehehehewhat people.

people as in a cabal serving their own ends, or people as in masses upon masses enacting legal and institutional changes.

More often than not, the former are the motor for change, while the latter are best at producing echoes.

H2O2:

Correct.


But all forms of established governments and laws are vulnerable to human reinterpretation - secular nations included.

there are vulnerable yes. . . . but a system of government underpinned by scribblings from the divine, leaves little room for debate and even
worse eliminates opposition because the laws are sacred.

Significantly you can not have an improperly administered theocracy. Perhaps in the eye of God, but certainly not in the eyes of men.

The religious laws shouldn't exactly discriminate, but it's left to the people to pick-and-choose which ones make it into their earthly lawbooks.

history has shown people in majority don't respect the rights of the minority without constitutional safeguards. I don't think picking and choosing is allowed in a theocracy. don't tell the pope or uthman dan fodio to choose .

But all forms of established governments and laws are vulnerable to human reinterpretation - secular nations included.

no system is perfect given that humans aren't perfect. Theocracy is just more ripe for exploitation than secularism. This can be seen in the behavior of European powers during the 16th to 18th century or even the Aro Cult.

bawomolo:

history has shown people in majority don't respect the rights of the minority without constitutional safeguards. I don't think picking and choosing is allowed in a theocracy. don't tell the pope or uthman dan fodio to choose .

On the other hand. . . .a marxist for example will argue, it is the majority that needs safeguards
from the tyranny of a select minority.

So for example, they can bring anthropological evidence where homosexualism is permitted in a society
because the 'select few' that matter have a penchant for tossing salads

I will never realistically argue in support of a full theocracy in this present day and age.

hehehehewhat people.

people as in a cabal serving their own ends, or people as in masses upon masses enacting legal and institutional changes.

Leave it to people with carnal minds, aka humans, to defraud laws that are meant to protect.

More often than not, the former are the motor for change, while the latter are best at producing echoes.

No legal institution is totally perfect.  There will always be people who disagree and others who agree with certain forms of government.

Significantly  you can not have an improperly administered theocracy. Perhaps in the eye of God, but certainly not in the eyes of men.

Realistically speaking Nigeria is not 100% theocratic; I dare say it is both secular and theocratic.
In a state consisting of multiple religious sects with clashes in codes of conduct, something's got to give.  The constitution as it stands does not eliminate the citizens from being selective.

then H202 we place our destiny in the hands of the few.

Kai. . .they would have a field day, those thieving, scheming, power hungry lot.

When it suits them, they invoke the sacred, while at other times, they implore us
that move on, that society cannot stand still.

Homosexuality is everywhere so what gives really!!!!!!!!!!!!!

doyin13:

then H202 we place our destiny in the hands of the few.

Kaithey would have a field day, those thieving, scheming, power hungry lot.

When it suits them, they invoke the sacred, while at other times, they implore us
that move on, that society cannot stand still.

LOL. We are a republic not a monarch. The people are supposed to have a say in the outcome of governmental policies.
It would most likely be worse in a secular environment. At least 98% of the officials currently in power in Nigeria "say" they have the fear of God in them. What would become of Nigeria if we divert to a godless system? I predict the exploitation and level of corruption would get worse.

Not even America is free from the tyranny of the few.  When four judges ignore 6 million votes, as was the case in California a few years back, there is a crisis.

What would become of Nigeria if we divert to a godless system? I predict the exploitation and level of corruption would get worse.

this isn't evident in Nordic countries where "godliness" is not a priority. I would argue the fear of God can be used as an excuse to justify exploitation. this happens in Nigeria and the Islamic republics we love to hate.

doyin13:

On the other hand. . . .a marxist for example will argue, it is the majority that needs safeguards
from the tyranny of a select minority.

So for example, they can bring anthropological evidence where homosexualism is permitted in a society
because the 'select few' that matter have a penchant for tossing salads

hey that's true, the minority can be bosses too

bawomolo:

this isn't evident in Nordic countries where "godliness" is not a priority. I would argue the fear of God can be used as an excuse to justify exploitation. this happens in Nigeria and the Islamic republics we love to hate.

Nordic countries are mindful of the law unlike these self-serving third-world criminals.
Godlessness can also be used to justify exploitation. This happens in America with the gay minority some folks find disgusting.

hey that's true, the minority can be bosses too

ROFL. I don't want to live in a country where the minority enslave me.