What if I told you that:
[list][li]I believe that men, women and children become lesser animals when they die?[/li]
[li]When a human being dies, he becomes an animal such as a cat, goat, dog, cow, or hyena.[/li]
[li]However, some select human beings might come back in as children in the same family.[/li]
[li]When an animal dies, it becomes an even more primitive animal e.g. cat -> mouse.[/li]
[li]This process goes on and until you eventually become a unicellular animal.[/li]
[li]When unicellular animals die, they come back as solid matter.[/li]
[li]By eventually turning into solid matter, all human beings will eventually achieve immortality.[/li][/list]

What if I told you that:
[li]I accept it by faith.[/li]
[li]This belief does not conflict with today's science in any way.[/li]
[li]If you believe in this, you may be selected to come back as a child.[/li]
[li]But if you don't believe, you'll come back as an animal.[/li][/list]

What would be your reaction?

Seun:

What would be your reaction?

I would think you are out of your mind.

I would ask what proof you/science has got about humans coming back as animals. Did any dog, cow or goat tell U about their past life as humans?
Simply ridiculous.

I would be interested to know how you came about that way of thinking and how you think it works.

Well no problem. If I have to come back to this world as an animal, I would not mind being the Great White Shark with the Red Unblinking Eyes.

Seun this is superstition i don't believ in this, how can someone die and become an animal. Pls proof it. I think i don't believe in this it's superstition.

What if I respond by saying:

layi: I would ask what proof you/science has got about humans coming back as animals.

- Do you notice that there are more animals than human beings, more lower animals than higher animals, more microscopic organisms than lower animals, and more atoms than microscopic animals?  This is consistent with the theory that higher animal forms are reincarnated as lower animal forms.
- Besides, can science prove other religions like Christianity and Islam?  The proof is spiritual, and it comes by faith and enlightenment of your soul!

layi: Did any dog, cow or goat tell U about their past life as humans?

Haven't you heard about various African tribes that believe their great leaders have come back in form of Lions, snakes, etc?  What about some Asian religions that also believe the same?  Don't you feel there must be some truth to this?  Afterall, there is no smoke without fire!  Have you been to heaven before or spoken with someone that came back from heaven?

Saintjoe: how can someone die and become an animal.

Your body dies, but your soul enters the freshly fertilized embryo of a pregnant lower animal like a goat or chicken.

what happens at the end of your ladder of decent? Do you cease to exist? Are you still considered existing (with a soul) when it comes to becoming bacteria, virus, atom, etc?

Seun are you really serious about these views of yours? BTW, what's your religion?

Well, all I can say is good for you Seun, just be sure that when you come back as a Goat, Chicken or Cow (i.e if you are lucky) I will be sure to kill you, and make the most delicious peppersoup, and proceed to eat you. Every tasty bit of you!

Let the man speak his mind. In the end we might just learn somethings u know !

Now bros (Seun) please enlighten us on this thesis of yours. How feasible is it, prove with fact how you think this is possible?  I still dey hail.

What if I respond like this:

fabian: Seun, just be sure that when you come back as a Goat, Chicken or Cow (i.e if you are lucky) I will be sure to kill you

I think you're missing the crux of the message. Those of us who believe will be reincarnated as children in the same family, but the rest of you may end up as goat meat inside buka peppersoup!

Seun:

.............the rest of you may end up as goat meat inside buka peppersoup!

Seun na proper conman. So unless I believe, I'll come back as a lower being? Na so 419 dey start (brain washing).

look this monkey man, e dey find followers wey go follow am commit suicide.

Seun:

What if I respond by saying:
- Do you notice that there are more animals than human beings, more lower animals than higher animals, more microscopic organisms than lower animals, and more atoms than microscopic animals? This is consistent with the theory that higher animal forms are reincarnated as lower animal forms.

If its the same beigns that turn to their lower forms, then why the increase down the ladder.

Emortal: look this monkey man, e dey find followers wey go follow am commit suicide.

Actually, Emortal, most religious cults/groups do not lead their followers to commit suicide. Most of them strive develop thriving, financially buoyant organizations to propagate their beliefs and support their founders!

layi: If its the same beings that turn to their lower forms, then why the increase down the ladder.

My response: Some lower animals are reincarnated human beings, through the human soul transferred into them. The others are newly created animal souls. Science supports this belief because there are generally more animals than humans.

your ideology holds no weight, based on blind fate, i've heard guys on the ganja speak more knowledge than your recycled reincarnation stolen idea. like i said, u dey find fellow idiots wey go praise u follow u go commit suicide. i sure say na movie wey im watch yesterday or something. nonsense, u want to study reincarnation, go down to india, go holla @ d dolly lama, holla @ bhuddist, not this slowpoke seeking ppl to journey with him to unknown realms, all in d name of avoiding to come back an insect. - But i'll applaud u for this, atleast you caught about 3ppl offguard

Seun:

My response: Some lower animals are reincarnated human beings, through the human soul transferred into them. The others are newly created animal souls. Science supports this belief because there are generally more animals than humans.

I guess thats just the point u've got.

Likewise there are more plants than animals. More sand than plants, more water molecules than sand. Why doesnt the strata go that way ?

"As in why don't the animals reincarnate into plants, and plants into sand etc? (they 're all creatures as well)"

Just curious!!! 

Emortal: your ideology holds no weight, based on blind fate, i've heard guys on the ganja speak more knowledge than your recycled reincarnation stolen idea. like i said, u dey find fellow idiots wey go praise u follow u go commit suicide. i sure say na movie wey im watch yesterday or something. nonsense, u want to study reincarnation, go down to india, go holla @ d dolly lama, holla @ bhuddist, not this slowpoke seeking people to journey with him to unknown realms, all in d name of avoiding to come back an insect. - But i'll applaud u for this, atleast you caught about 3ppl offguard

So what do you believe in and how is it more believable than my animal reincarnation theory?

layi: why don't the animals reincarnate into plants, and plants into sand etc? (they 're all creatures as well)"

Because plants do not have souls; they do not have self-awareness. Animals have souls, they can think, feel pain, make decisions, etc.

Seun:

Because plants do not have souls; they do not have self-awareness. Animals have souls, they can think, feel pain, make decisions, etc.

Is a human soul the same with that of a goat?
Dont u think a human soul in a goat body will give us a humangoat?
Do u really believe there's thinking at the cellular level? Remember response to stimuli is very different from thinkin.

Again, I ask:

"What happens at the end of your ladder of decent? Do you cease to exist? Are you still considered existing (with a soul) when it comes to becoming bacteria, virus, atom, etc?"

What would be your reaction?

I would say that you've got a good thing going on, and I would ask you to appoint me as your treasurer when you finally set up The Church of Reincarnated Holy Goat and start raking in the millions.

I know this is a serious topic but, Ka, you can't make a comment like that. I'm laughing so hard my peers think there's something wrong with me.

@seun: Please answer my question. . .

"What happens at the end of your ladder of decent?  Do you cease to exist?  Are you still considered existing (with a soul) when it comes to becoming bacteria, virus, atom, etc?"

Once you become an atom, you have achieved immortality and you will remain an inert atom forever and ever.  No more hunger, thirst, pain, or suffering.  Those who don't believe may come back as goats or chickens or mosquitos and bacteria vefore going to the atom state. Those who believe will go directly to holy atom state when they become tired of being reincarnated over and over again as human beings in their respective families. Glory!

Even our cultures are aware of some aspects of this phenomenom.  Babatunde, a common name, means "father has come againk" and "Iyabo" means "mother has come".  So I urge you, as a true African and believer in our culture, to accept this belief and avoid the fate of a goat!

What is life without pain, hunger, suffering, joyfulness. . . .

Also Seun, if I become a holy imortal atom, there will be no more Nairaland for me. I'm not to thrilled by this aspect at all.

Seun:

Once you become an atom, you have achieved immortality and you will remain an inert atom forever and ever.

Atoms grow and Die as well !

Seun, if I become a holy immortal atom, there will be no more Nairaland for me.

As mentioned earlier, you can keep coming back as a human being until you get tired of suffering. Then you can go directly to atom state. Beyond atom state there may other possibilities, but this shall be revealed to use when we reach the holy atom state!

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I see your fine print I knew that from the start.

But you mean I have to wait until I reach holy atom state before knowing what other options are available to me? That's a bit frightening.

Keep coming back as a human? But then I would not remember past lives so I may never again remember that Nairaland exists. Still unacceptable to me.

So where are you planning to go when you die? Do they have hunger, thirst, pain and suffering, and Nairaland there?

I plan on going to Heaven when I die. No pain or suffering. . . . but there will be food and that's important to me

I know a lot of members here who I will meet up there so it will be some what like Nairaland but only face to face.