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Re: NMA And NARD Declare An Indefinite Strike From July 1st At 00.00hrs by Nobody: 10:51pm On Jun 30, 2014 |
zeezzy: hmmm.i pray everyone involved NMA,JOHESU,Govt solve these with a speed of light.They must not allow hospitals to be shut down,plssss.thats our hope too. 1 Like |
Re: NMA And NARD Declare An Indefinite Strike From July 1st At 00.00hrs by johnbosco97(m): 11:08pm On Jun 30, 2014 |
ASUU style strike to begin in an hour, Nigerians will know who the patients are coming to hospital to see for their care. Its time for JOHESU to show their clinical skills. |
Re: NMA And NARD Declare An Indefinite Strike From July 1st At 00.00hrs by filiks(m): 11:37pm On Jun 30, 2014 |
bumfem: How can anyone say that in public? First, we all saw how the lagos strike happened, doctors were employed urgently to do the job of doctors! Yes, Any professional can attain the peak of his/her career and become a consultant. But a consultant nurse can never replace a doctor! In every field/industry, there's a leader/head. And please don't get it twisted, the whole multidisciplinary concept is not synonymous to 'anarchy' or 'no hierarchy'! For example, In any building project, no matter how many consultant building engineers or structural engineers, etc involved, the head of the project is the consultant architect! One of these days, a long-serving court clerk will contest to lead court proceedings! 2 Likes |
Re: NMA And NARD Declare An Indefinite Strike From July 1st At 00.00hrs by cnwamo(m): 11:42pm On Jun 30, 2014 |
femyodsky: I could give you a million and one reasons centered around money, self, etc but there's no need to... Its personal |
Re: NMA And NARD Declare An Indefinite Strike From July 1st At 00.00hrs by babat89: 12:00am On Jul 01, 2014 |
cnwamo: Bros, U sound crappy. Since a doctor aint different u needn't be one naw. Abi? |
Re: NMA And NARD Declare An Indefinite Strike From July 1st At 00.00hrs by femyodsky(m): 12:02am On Jul 01, 2014 |
cnwamo: Okay, wish you all the best. |
Re: NMA And NARD Declare An Indefinite Strike From July 1st At 00.00hrs by Nobody: 5:48am On Jul 01, 2014 |
they don't know maybe they just want the title. Doctors in nigeria are the least respected yet most hardworking set of people when compare to other class. well like I always tell people, "u dont know the value of a doctor until u need one " I pray u dont have need for one ...grow old and die naturally in ur bedroom if not, this same fingers u use un typing trash against doctors will grow cancers |
Re: NMA And NARD Declare An Indefinite Strike From July 1st At 00.00hrs by bumfem: 6:24am On Jul 01, 2014 |
I really do not know who to quote. There just too many lamentations on this thread by so call physicians. This is where i do pity docs at times. Always want to shout at the roof top that they are king kong of the hospitals. A king that always remind the people that he is a king is no king at all. I appreciate the guy that posted some links to support his view. I understand u struggle to provide those link that seem to help your bias point of view. The word is not ''medical consultant'' but ''consultant''. Go back to your search and educate yourself. Search consultant pharmacist or physiotherapist or nurses job. They are all clinic base. Your problem is wickedness and greed. Consultant physician and consultant nurses or pharmacist do not mean the same thing. They got paid with diff. pay templates. If the govt is fine with that I wonder this lamentations from NMA. That docs will go on strike is not really a big deal to many nigerians. Many of them already prefer private outfit to seek healthcare. Most primary and comp health care centers are covered well by nurses. Wishing u good luck in yet another round of strike. |
Re: NMA And NARD Declare An Indefinite Strike From July 1st At 00.00hrs by otokx(m): 7:04am On Jul 01, 2014 |
Time will tell. |
Re: NMA And NARD Declare An Indefinite Strike From July 1st At 00.00hrs by omicron(m): 8:41am On Jul 01, 2014 |
Dr_OBD: 1 Like |
Re: NMA And NARD Declare An Indefinite Strike From July 1st At 00.00hrs by cnwamo(m): 12:06pm On Jul 01, 2014 |
babat89: Do you even know the meaning of the word crappy?, because if you do you wouldn't have used it...#bemindfulofthewordsyouuse# |
Re: NMA And NARD Declare An Indefinite Strike From July 1st At 00.00hrs by cnwamo(m): 12:07pm On Jul 01, 2014 |
femyodsky: Thanks Bro 谢谢我的朋友。 |
Re: NMA And NARD Declare An Indefinite Strike From July 1st At 00.00hrs by tunsmart: 3:32pm On Jul 01, 2014 |
bumfem: I really do not know who to quote. There just too many lamentations on this thread by so call physicians. bumfem: I really do not know who to quote. There just too many lamentations on this thread by so call physicians.@bumfem,you really don't need to be too dogmatic about this,links were posted by the respondent to clarify and define the respective roles of the consultants in those other fields,stating clearly that they are not hospital based.The best you can do is to take the king king route and use the stupid tywin lannister quote.If you are so sure that consultant nurses work in hospitals abroad.Post your links,and we discuss from there,stop your insulting display of ignorance right in front of corrections. 1 Like |
Re: NMA And NARD Declare An Indefinite Strike From July 1st At 00.00hrs by phantom(m): 4:18pm On Jul 01, 2014 |
tunsmart: @bumfem,you really don't need to be too dogmatic about this,links were posted by the respondent to clarify and define the respective roles of the consultants in those other fields,stating clearly that they are not hospital based.The best you can do is to take the king king route and use the stupid tywin lannister quote.If you are so sure that consultant nurses work in hospitals abroad.Post your links,and we discuss from there,stop your insulting display of ignorance right in front of corrections.my brother don't expect any sensible argument from him.its all emotions. I've said it before...this struggle is just to embarrass the doctors pure and simple. |
Re: NMA And NARD Declare An Indefinite Strike From July 1st At 00.00hrs by bumfem: 8:30pm On Jul 01, 2014 |
Hi guys.......since u ask for relevant link here you are. pls take time to study the result of these systematic reviews and meta-synthesis and get some education on clinic based consultant nurses,physiothetapists,pharmacist and lab scientists. Then let us talk latter. Good day.day http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21219527 http://www.wales.nhs.uk/sites3/home.cfm?orgid=890 http://www.researchgate.net/publication/49741134_Nurse_and_allied_health_professional_consultants_perceptions_and_experiences_of_the_role http://www.researchgate.net/publication/44671615_Assessing_the_impact_of_nurse_and_allied_health_professional_consultants_developing_an_activity_diary 1 Like |
Re: NMA And NARD Declare An Indefinite Strike From July 1st At 00.00hrs by drobadebayo: 5:52am On Jul 02, 2014 |
eaglechild: Those clamouring to become consultants should please look at the way residency program is structured.Not dey don't want dis.dey just wanna be consultants after sitting in one place for soo long |
Re: NMA And NARD Declare An Indefinite Strike From July 1st At 00.00hrs by tunsmart: 3:38pm On Jul 03, 2014 |
bumfem:First and foremost, two of the links are repetition of one review,and secondly NONE of the research publications you posted indicated that those consultants were hospital based.All you ve done is to once again show that positions exist,which your respondent showed too with his links but he also clearly showed that they are not hospital based consultants. Also remember, he clearly stated at the beginning of his argument that our health/educational system like our other public systems ar3 modelled after the british's,not after the american system where the plethora of this non-hospital based consultants exist. 1 Like |
Re: NMA And NARD Declare An Indefinite Strike From July 1st At 00.00hrs by Nobody: 5:03pm On Jul 03, 2014 |
Re: NMA And NARD Declare An Indefinite Strike From July 1st At 00.00hrs by jpphilips(m): 4:06pm On Jul 07, 2014 |
bumfem: When you hinge your argument on the bold part of your post, first paragraph, I get irritated, Fine, if you feel you want to assume a position that threatens the nation much less health care, you must straighten your position with facts and logic to make sense to even the president who may not be a Health practitioner. By your statement "doctors need not worry about other professional method of progression" It is clear what JOHESU or whatever you guys call them is fighting for. You want the doctor not to care about your academic progression yet you want to lead a hospital where doctors work? do you as support health care providers take hospitals to be a Mechanic workshop? You don't go on strike to broaden your curriculum, but you want to lead a hospital, how do you guys think, can you try that in a company? A theater nurse should be striking for their curriculum to be broadened to include surgery so that the experience can be utilized in the absence of a surgeon, that is what will benefit the patient. A pharmacist wants to head the hospital just because he has a cubicle of drugs in a hospital? what kinda logic is this? A doctor did courses in pharmacology, pathology etc like you but your curriculum did not cover some of his eg surgery, on what grounds are you leading a doctor? what kind of professionals do we have in Nigeria? you guys make a mockery of commonsense with your petty logic. A radiographer wants to head a Hospital, did they forget that there is a radiologist who is a doctor that specialized in radiography? who has the academic prowess to lead each other? Look at ordinary lab scientist whom a Biochemist have covered their curriculum in natural science will want to head a hospital? haba! sometimes when your union people pass a circular, the people with sense should challenge it in house before throwing it out to the public, to avoid embarrassment. Any health care worker can head a hospital but for the sake of the patient, go round all the departments in health care to assume the competence to do so. I will love a nurse to be able to correct a doctor who made a wrong prescription not because he or she has spent sometime with a doctor but because he or she has passed through the academic training that permit her to do so, that is what I call "MERIT" not some wish wash of being a health care professional, health care team and other nonsense, train, study and be competent before dragging positions. From the time of JAMB, the physician have started sweating, going by the cut off mark of all the health sciences for the past 20yrs, the doctor is bestowed with one of the highest, the curriculum is so broad that most times they leave the university so old, how would you reward such hard work, dedication and commitment? by making a cleaner his boss in the name of health care professionals? It doesn't take long they will run to America to tell us how their CMD's are ordinary administrators, but they fail to tell us that the final clinical shot as regards treatment and diagnosis is called by the doctor, that being the case, the CMD position abroad is ceremonial, why do we need such nonsense in Nigeria? It happens in America doesn't make it right, to me it is mere bureaucracy. why cant the highest ranking doctor call the shot for the whole Hospital? why do we need a novice administrator who may be consulting same doctors to take some decisions? Let me remind JESHU or whatever that Nature follows the path of least resistance, the reason people still study hard to aspire to go through the rigors of medical school is because of the perks that comes with being a doctor, those privileges "MUST" never be compromised. Any attempt to harmonize their benefit will not only enthrone incompetence in health care delivery but will make medicine unattractive. why will i go through medical school when I will enjoy same benefit with a doctor as a parasitologist? On what grounds should an air hostess earn the same as the Pilot? just because she feels she serves coffee to the passengers? what kind of logic are we throwing around in Nigeria? If an air hostess want the same perks and privilege as a Pilot, by all means the Aeronautic school is open for anyone to go through the stress. There must be parity in benefit for all the health care workers, If you want to chop like a consultant, kindly go through medical school, you cannot reap where you did not sow. To believe that people who ended up in Nursing, Physiotherapy, Bio chemistry, Medical lab science were actually people who couldn't make it past MB or some who the JAMB cut off truncated their desire to be doctors, In the Hospital you want "Harmonized salaries" with doctors, thieves!! If you like the official vehicle or the house incentive given to your CMD, by all means go to the medical school. we don't honor hard work in this country, The super eagles trained consistently for over 3yrs to qualify and prosecute the Nations cup qualifiers, the Nation's cup, the world cup qualifiers and the world cup proper, in the middle of the tournament, the FA is still haggling with their bonuses. when are we going to enthrone merit and hard work in this country? nobody wants to work hard but they want the best life, look at the judiciary furore in this country, the judiciary is handicapped because there are so many loop holes in our laws, to believe it is our highest paid public servants that made those s!lly laws is disheartening. You cannot give a doctor his deserved honor but we spend billions on militants, thieves whose radicalism nearly crippled our economy. On the part of the Govt, the only solution is to privatize all our hospitals which will lead to increase medical cost, a subsidized health insurance scheme will then take care of that. when I buy the hospital, let the Aux. nurse tell me to pay her a par with the Doctor, lemme slap her to mortuary condition. By the way I am not a doctor, I cant even stand a stinking toto let alone f0ndle with it in the name of being a gynecologist, yuck!! 4 Likes |
Re: NMA And NARD Declare An Indefinite Strike From July 1st At 00.00hrs by jpphilips(m): 5:12pm On Jul 07, 2014 |
tunsmart: First and foremost, two of the links are repetition of one review,and secondly NONE of the research publications you posted indicated that those consultants were hospital based.All you ve done is to once again show that positions exist,which your respondent showed too with his links but he also clearly showed that they are not hospital based consultants. Also remember, he clearly stated at the beginning of his argument that our health/educational system like our other public systems ar3 modelled after the british's,not after the american system where the plethora of this non-hospital based consultants exist. Haven't you noticed that most Nairalanders have comprehension problems? |
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