pickabeau1:

Yes u do....just because...but wat the heck..its only an opinion..

Which show is that...

carefreewannabe:

Keep up the good work, no progress without women like you. Happy Sunday sis!

cococandy:


That's the wrong opinion. But yea it's yours

CSI:new york

cococandy:

I repeat I didn't throw one at you first. Check yourself. You must have been snide or condescending.
But I'm not interested in dilly dallying over oldies. My Apologies if you felt bullied.
I don't know Zeus. But I forgive you even if you don't apologize for your part in it.

cococandy: Happy sunday to you too.

Yea. I'm going into politics when I'm older.

pickabeau1:

Cool series

I prefer Miami

Enjoy

cococandy: I watch all of them.
Miami
Los angeles

carefreewannabe:


Why wait?

Start now. The earlier, the better, the more experience.

Don't wait.

carefreewannabe:
Hell no! Did I say so?

You said single motherhood is a lucrative job and I showed you that the reality for many single mothers is very different. Women who have kids with very rich men are an exception not the rule.

I don't see any reason to pay a huge amount of money for a match-box but to each their own.

If you were rich, you would be able to afford to pay for a villa in LONDON. As you are not, there is no reason for you to be worried about women making business from your sperm, right?

cococandy: That's very unfair.
If you haven't seen any feminist stand against it?
Well Now you have.

coogar:

it should be scrapped!
if women know there's no money to be made from child support, they will make saner choices. of course, we are not talking about deadbeat dads who married & divorced and ran out of the marriage. we are talking about unmarried folks and in the extreme cases of paternity fraud.



appeal which ruling? feminism brought equitable doctrine of estoppel into the equation. that doctrine states the court may hold that because i acted like a parent and permitted the child to rely upon me even though i'm a "stranger" to the child, i have adopted the biological or "real" parent's duty.

in other words, if i befriend a babymama and I was playing a fatherly role throughout our relationship, i could be held to keep providing child support for the child since the little boy has been made to rely on me. a very brilliant law except that it doesn't get enforced when a woman befriends a babyfather.
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BABE!:


No need to apologize. You can't bully a veteran bully.

I think I read somewhere where you said your feministic views starts and stops in Nigeria and that part of the world.

Don't you think what Nigeria needs is development and education, not feminism? I'm pretty sure in the country's constitution, women have same rights as men. Most folks that have chauvinistic views are greatly influenced by culture and religion. I highly doubt that a well educated man will leave his daughter out of his will because she's female.they do. All the time.

do you honestly think feminism didn't pave way for all round western development. Yes Nigeria needs development and education,all feminism asks is that women not be excluded when it is making the rounds?


The laws are there to protect these women, but who do we have to enforce the laws? No one. That's where my development angle comes in.

no. The laws don't protect women. Not from the social epidemic of hiding behind men to get what you deserve. Women have made it to the top yes. If you know one,sit her down and let her give you her life story.
I don't even want to talk about companies that don't employ women. I'd have thought it was false if I didn't experience it myself..

Also, poverty and hunger make women in Nigeria do degrading things to themselves. Women there see marriage/man as a ticket out of poverty. That's why men treat them like they do.
So how does feminism come into all this?


agreed.

But that's where it also is beneficial. Gender equality in it's entirety helps erode such dependent mindset and low self esteem. The ladies are getting the message. It'll only take time

coogar:

because i am sure the payment isn't spent entirely on my child. it's called child support not mother/child support. the government & child protection services should enforce women to produce receipts before getting the next cheque.



fraud against her? when the female affair minister is campaigning that all female prisons should be closed as no women is dangerous enough to be locked behind bars? you are reaching......



such options don't exist - it's a direct debit transaction. at a certain day of the month, the money leaves the account of the man to the woman. in some of the cases, the men don't even get to see the progress of the child they are spending the money on. the average price of raising a child into adulthood in the UK is £220,000. do the math!



if that is so easy, 70% of custody battles won't be won by the women. unless a woman is a drug/alcohol addict or with a history of child abuse, there's no way a court would not give her the custody of the child.

Mondisweets: i dont like people who just like talking out of their backsides!

coogar:

that's what you implied: he's a celebrity so it shouldn't matter.

yes, it is.....
her life would be much worse if she's just single without a child.

single mothers get the highest priority. all the benefit scroungers living in £1m mansions funded by tax payers in the UK are all single mothers.

without their children, they would be in a one-bedroom council flats.

that's the harsh realities of staying in london. you pay more!

size is not value in london. stop using your mgbeke tinted lens to look at things. there is a parking space that can only contain one car in london that cost more than all the houses in your entire street wherever you stay.

it's about the area, not the size of the house.

coogar:

you are the one talking out of your backside scooping out an irrelevant piece of information. what is that nonsense you posted? you posted the default payment a man that refused to give the information of his real income to the CPS. how's that applicable to the subject we are discussing?

carefreewannabe:
No, it is what you read into it. All I said was that they are not representative of ordinary people and of the majority which consists of ordinary people.

What you are saying here does not make sense at all. A single mother who lives on the bredline would be worse off without a child? Like seriously?

A single POOR mother gets the minimum from the baby father, around 200 pounds, I guess, FROM WHICH she has to feed and cloth the child and from which she also has to pay for school books, class trips etc so how would she be worse off without the 200 and without the child?

Sorry Coogar but this was one of the most illogical comments ever.
So the 43% of single parents whose children are poor live in 1m mansions?
Do your comments make sense to you?

43 per cent of single parents are social housing tenants compared to 12 per cent of couples (20)

http://www.gingerbread.org.uk/content/365/Statistics. Get your facts right, please

Nobody forces you to.

I stayed in London during my studies and lived with a couple who have a house It is possible.

cococandy: they do. All the time.

Mondisweets: so show me where it said parent only refers to the father\man bits relevant because it can prevent a parent with custody of the child from claiming excess money as maintenance for a child duh!

coogar:

you are doing yourself loads of harm!

did you even read the nonsense you posted? in a situation where the father does not disclose his true income to the child protection agency, then what you posted is the default he must pay.

while he's paying that, CPA will liase with government agencies to find out his true income. this might take months or even years and when it's calculated, he would be required to pay the deficit!

coogar:

even if they make just 1% of the population of ordinary people, is it fair for them to be saddled with unwanted pregnancy? do a set of people have to count as the majority before they should be catered for?

yes, she is.
a single mother of one gets a 2-bedroom house or flat. if she's childless, she might be given a room.

a single mother gets child maintenance every week from the tax payer. if she's single, there are no such perks & she gets no priority in housing. she waits on a long queue before she can get a roof over her head.

she gets free vouchers, maintenance fees, perks, etc lets just say the government rewards her promiscuity.

i think you are bereft of logic.....
i said all the £1 million pound mansions funded by the taxpayers are occupied by single mothers. it's a different statement to "all single mothers stay in £1m mansions"

coogar: all boko haram terrorists are muslims
carefree: all muslims are boko haram terrorists!

your logic is baffling!

i have addressed your lack of comprehension skills in the comment above.

you are the one complaining, you are the one that brought it up. surely, you are the one forced to mention a topic that has nothing to do with the discourse.

the people staying in ajegunle would also claim they stayed in lagos. the same london where you have flats at £500 per month is where you will find flats at £10,000 per month. it's not about the size, it's the area.

Mondisweets: you do know child support is paid according to the needs of the child that can actually be proven and not something that comes out of the ass of the person who has custody of the child, again i ask you show me where it says the word parent only refers to the father? Both parents have a legal duty to cater for the financial needs of a child. Never was it ever made the sole responsibility of the father (not even according to English law). So stop acting as if the word parent only applies to the father.

Then again maybe jobless grown assss women are your type that why u keep making it seem as if the man is the one who is solely responsible for child support.

coogar:

nah - child support is calculated based on the income of the man. if the child of a school teacher and the child of a millionaire have the same needs, they will not get the same child support income.



why don't you find out the percentage of the custody battle won by women. 71% of the cases are given to women. that's more than 2 in every 3 so what's your point?

The percentage of lone parent households that are mother-headed in the UK is 91% [General Household Survey]. There are some 40,000 disputed custody cases every year which are decided by family court judges.

These judges will listen to recommendations from court welfare officers who visit the family and write 35,000 reports every year. The welfare officers work in the probation service which deals with mostly male criminals, this makes it difficult to see fathers in a positive light. The result is that family courts award mothers sole custody in 71% of cases and fathers sole custody in 7% of all cases, joint custody is awarded in the remaining 21% of cases.

Many fathers report giving up an expensive custody fight for their children after advice from lawyers who say they can't win. It is very common for mothers during custody battles to receive state funded legal aid. A custody battle is therefore a very unequal war of attrition.

Many fathers report that efforts to have contact with their children are blocked by mothers, and the courts will not enforce the right of children to have contact with their fathers.

need i say more?

carefreewannabe:
No, it is not fair but I am sure they know how to take care of themselves.

She gets an additional room because there is an additional person. The room is for the child.

It is all done in the child's best interest and there is nothing wrong with a society making children a priority. And now tell me how much child maintenance a mother gets from the tax payer weekly.

Again! It is done for the child! A child should not suffer because MOTHER and FATHER are failures. You are so gender-biased and focused on women that you fail to consider what is best for CHILDREN who are INNOCENT.

Proof!
No! This is Coogar logic. All single parents profit from being single parents.

At least I have logic.

I guess you have forgotten how you have misunderstood some of my comments

I am the one who works with statistics and does not fail to prove her claims instead of referring to celebrities who make up 2% of the entire population.

Tell us where you reside in London and we will take it from there.

Mondisweets:
Lets make this easier for both of us. Before we all agree that men should not be forced to maintain a child he did not plan to have, kindly tick the points any mentally sound man doesn't know before engaging in sexual activity

1.) condoms aren't 100%
2.) condoms break
3.) a woman can get pregnant is she has sex
4.) contraceptives do not guarantee a 100% of a woman not falling pregnant
5.) a woman can still fall pregnant, whether you want to marry her or not
6.) babies only come after a man and a woman have sex.
7.) engaging in sexual activity with any woman may result in pregnancy or STIs

If a mentally sound male doesn't know all of this by the age of 12 then we can all say screw every woman's right to life, human integrity, bodily and psychological integrity that where created by which assshole who came up with International Human Rights. Every woman should abort, whether there is a possiblity of her dying from it or not, since all that matters is the fact that the father doesn't want to live up to his responsibilities

coogar:

nah - child support is calculated based on the income of the man. if the child of a school teacher and the child of a millionaire have the same needs, they will not get the same child support income.



why don't you find out the percentage of the custody battle won by women. 71% of the cases are given to women. that's more than 2 in every 3 so what's your point?

The percentage of lone parent households that are mother-headed in the UK is 91% [General Household Survey]. There are some 40,000 disputed custody cases every year which are decided by family court judges.

These judges will listen to recommendations from court welfare officers who visit the family and write 35,000 reports every year. The welfare officers work in the probation service which deals with mostly male criminals, this makes it difficult to see fathers in a positive light. The result is that family courts award mothers sole custody in 71% of cases and fathers sole custody in 7% of all cases, joint custody is awarded in the remaining 21% of cases.

Many fathers report giving up an expensive custody fight for their children after advice from lawyers who say they can't win. It is very common for mothers during custody battles to receive state funded legal aid. A custody battle is therefore a very unequal war of attrition.

Many fathers report that efforts to have contact with their children are blocked by mothers, and the courts will not enforce the right of children to have contact with their fathers.

need i say more?

coogar:

and we are saying even after your points 1-7, a sensible woman with a good head on her shoulders shouldn't have a child with a man that doesn't want her to be a mother. it's unfair to all the parties involved.

coogar:

if it's not fair then why argue at all?

except that she doesn't give the other room to her child in most cases. she rents it out and make extra income. that option is not available without the child. the average rent of such rooms per month is about £400.

it depends on the number of children she's managed to have had with as many men. there is a woman making £40,000 per year on benefits alone but she has 9 kids. £40,000 per year is N10m & that puts her amongst the top 10% of the highest salary earners in the whole of britain.

and i am telling you women deliberately drag these innocent children into the equation to enjoy the perks government is dishing out like father christmas. in the UK, a lazy woman can get pregnant on purpose with a homeless man every year & start claiming benefits.

how is that not premeditated?

i never said that - you are the master of twisting what people say. there are single mothers who don't even collect a dime from the father of their child but the system has a loophole that gluttonous women are taking advantage of!

no you don't!
that A can be B doesn't mean B can be A



you are the one finding it hard to apply logic. all the £1m houses occupied by single mothers doesn't mean all single mothers stay in £1m houses.

your statistics are tosh!
even if it's one celebrity in the entire UK that is open to target by some unscrupulous slüt, he should be protected.

ask around....

Mondisweets: and we are saying if you are a reasonable man, and you make a woman pregnant (and she does not terminate the pregnancy) , simply get ready to work 2 jobs if you have to, just to give that child a decent life

olubukato:

Nonsense...