I'm a nurse anesthetist (CRNA) and I make $250K/year.

this dude must be a pretty She/male! @prettyprettywow you a doctor?

It's funny how people compare salaries but never compare competence, capabilities! What do these so called Medical practitioners really do? Is it to visit hospitals with deadly prescriptions and unfounded diagnosis? No research done, no cure found for ANY DISEASE...MOST OF THEM ARE SO CRASS THAT YOU DOUBT THEIR PROFESSIONALISM!! No respect for patients...nothing nothing!! Yet they keep comparing themselves to their foreign counter parts who REALLY know what it is to save lives!! When you watch series like HOUSE, you really wonder!! Same thing with our so called Lecturers in Tertiary institutions...they do almost NOTHING but want the same fat sum foreign Lecturers earn. Tomorrow una go blame FG, nobody is doing anything to help this country. Shame!!

prettyprettywow: You forgot that these are salaries of specialist Doctors(consultants) with over 12yrs of education and average of $300k in student loan (for US Drs) as compared to the salaries of an entry level nurse ( 4yrs degree and less than $50k student loanfor US graduates)). You fail to realize that in US, resident Drs earn an average of $45k, quite below the salary of the least hospital worker. So when they say Drs aern 200k, know that they are talking about consultants, and if you wanna compare with nurses, talk about nurse practitioners where some specialist nurse practitioners earn more than some specialist Drs e.g Anaesthetic nurses (CRNA) earn more than family physicians. Our Drs want to reap where they did not sow.

Besides, nobody is asking to earn same salary as Drs. That has never been the issue

Myopic view. Just shows ur level of ignorance

prettyprettywow: tell me where a Dr has been sued. also tell me you have not seen cases where nurses are sued. What nigerian Drs do is shift blame to others like nurses. how many times have they actually taken responsibility for their actions without blaming the nurses? They are very good at covering up their atrocities and havig the CMD protect them

Bro ur level of ignorance is legendary. U must be a nurse wit inferiority complex

Being a Doc shouldn't be about the money, status but passion and love for humanity.

Lots of life at stake with this money mentality

This ranting to me is unnecessary. Please docs in naija should knw that they are worsening the political cum economic woes of the nation. The bandwagon effect that will ensue if their agitation receive a positive nod, will throw the nation into jeopardy. who no want better thing.

prettyprettywow: In some schools also, undergrad medical students (not residents) are paid while others are not. In US, there is nothing like GP,rather we have internists and family physicians and they also undergo residency. No Dr practices in US immediately out of medical school. You must undergo atleast 4years residency for you to even be a family physician while other specialties spend more years. Google is there for you to use

But seriously, you have since been ranting without dropping any link yourself and you refer them to Google.com. You ooze of arrogancy, typical of every nurses.

Well, when you walk into any hospital, you only find the nurses gossiping rather than attending to patients. They work lesser hours than the doctors, they go on leave at any slightest headache. They grumble and complain a lot. They really do not have much work to do in a teaching hospital setting. Its even the doctors that set line and in most cases give patience their drugs.

see me see wahala oooo wetin i dey do for naija wen US DEY

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DebateNigeria:
I am not confusing myself. My interpretation of what you posted was that he was comparing consultant doctors to entry level nurses. I am sorry if I got you wrong.
But you agree with me that nurses and other health professionals don't earn as much as doctors anywhere in the world, at least nit in the USA.
You made mention of anaesthesic Nurses, did you check what consultant(doctor) anesthetist earn? I am sure it may even double that of the nurses.

Lol. Did u say double? Quadruple sef never reach. Anesthesiologists are one of the most well paid physicians in the US

Broses, una wise so? See figures!!! Na to Jand remain o!

prettyprettywow: You forgot that these are salaries of specialist Doctors(consultants) with over 12yrs of education and average of $300k in student loan (for US Drs) as compared to the salaries of an entry level nurse ( 4yrs degree and less than $50k student loanfor US graduates)). You fail to realize that in US, resident Drs earn an average of $45k, quite below the salary of the least hospital worker. So when they say Drs aern 200k, know that they are talking about consultants, and if you wanna compare with nurses, talk about nurse practitioners where some specialist nurse practitioners earn more than some specialist Drs e.g Anaesthetic nurses (CRNA) earn more than family physicians. Our Drs want to reap where they did not sow.

Besides, nobody is asking to earn same salary as Drs. That has never been the issue

GBAM!

all this people arguing this sunday prettywow or whatever your name is you keep ranting for other health professionals to be allowed to reach the peak of their career's? have you ever heard of any dr wanting to be a matron? why suddenly do nurses want to bear the title of consultant to my understanding every health professional wether unionized or not should be able to negotiate what they deem is fair compensation for their services but it will be very stupid of one to go to the negotiating table with salary figures of a different profession. Imagine your gateman asking for a pay rise because your househelp makes more than him or vice versa is that not ludicrous. agitate for what you feel is fair compensation but not by comparing apple's and spinach

prettyprettywow: but agree that those are the salaries of consultants that you are comparing to an entry level nurse. That resident doctors earn as little as 45k in US unlike here in Nigeria that they want to earn more than their employers. That it takes them years to pay the student loan + interest. That they also pay heavy malpractice insurance unlike nurses. So all those are considered when issues about salaries are handled in US. here, Drs go to school wnd pay same fee with others, yet they want to earn like US Drs .

Entry level health professionals in USA are not fresh university graduates. Entry level nurses in USA are masters degree holders. Entry level pharmacists are Pharm D holders. Also in the USA, most pharmacists do a postgraduate "residency" before they are awarded Pharm D and can now become "entry level" (very few universities do the undergraduate PharmD and those schools are even querried about the adequacy of an undergraduate Pharm D compared to the majority postgraduate Pharm D). would our Pharmacists here want to do a postgrad residency and be subjected to the same temporary appointment stuff resident doctors are experiencing? I think not. They rather tried to institute the undergraduate Pharm D (which is being criticised in the originating country, USA). So you see entry level in USA health system are not fresh graduates. But our NURSES, pharms, etc in Nigeria always fail to mention that allowing the uninformed masses assume that the salaries posted about USA are those of "fresh graduates". In simple terms, in the USA health system all entry level workers are people with postgraduate fellowships in their respective colleges

prettyprettywow: It's only a fool that converts Nigeria currency to Dollars. Have you forgotten that we have different economy? You went to the university almost free, can you also compare your school fees to theirs?

You are not asking for something special, but allow others to grow too in their chosen field. By the way, you guys started this whole thing by comparing your salaries to other health workers. If you face your work and profession and leave others alone, then we won't be having this conversation.

Whoa whoa whoa, U are just so on point.

I find it ludicrous and odiferous when people compare Doctors with other healthcare workers. They are never and will never be on the same platform. And as such, there is no basis of comparison. It is highly insultive to do so. The fact still remains and will continue to be so. Doctors are head of the medical team and should be accorded their due respect. Rather than whinging or ranting over what has come to stay till end of time. There is no need to be a disgruntled healthcare worker under the head of the medical team (Doctor). Love it that way or you quit your job.Please stop all comparison henceforth, people ranting about Doctors salary compared to others should do so sagaciously.

DebateNigeria:
I am here again. Let's debate this. I have to do some research.
But I am also aware that in some school of nursing (in Nigeria), student nurses are paid whereas medical students are not.
I disagree with you completely.
Anytime they are taking a survey, they take a survey of people in similar group. There is no way they will compare salary of a medical consultant to that of an entry nurse.
To make headway in this argument we must decide to use USA as our case study and then look at how much they pay specialist nurses and specialist doctors, entry level nurse and entry level doctor (GP or medical officer). Resident doctors are in school I guess, so we can only compare them to those in school of nursing.

....i'll advise you don't join in this debate. You know, u're quite deficient in this notions

prettyprettywow: You forgot that these are salaries of specialist Doctors(consultants) with over 12yrs of education and average of $300k in student loan (for US Drs) as compared to the salaries of an entry level nurse ( 4yrs degree and less than $50k student loanfor US graduates)). You fail to realize that in US, resident Drs earn an average of $45k, quite below the salary of the least hospital worker. So when they say Drs aern 200k, know that they are talking about consultants, and if you wanna compare with nurses, talk about nurse practitioners where some specialist nurse practitioners earn more than some specialist Drs e.g Anaesthetic nurses (CRNA) earn more than family physicians. Our Drs want to reap where they did not sow.

Besides, nobody is asking to earn same salary as Drs. That has never been the issue

There really aren't specialist nurses in nigerian teaching hospitals , so your point is baseless, nigerian nurses and their johesu cohorts are not interested in specialization… they're more concerned about salary

prettyprettywow: It's only a fool that converts Nigeria currency to Dollars. Have you forgotten that we have different economy? You went to the university almost free, can you also compare your school fees to theirs?

You are not asking for something special, but allow others to grow too in their chosen field. By the way, you guys started this whole thing by comparing your salaries to other health workers. If you face your work and profession and leave others alone, then we won't be having this conversation.

Nobody is asking to be paid the same figures as the US Doctors. If I'm correct, NMA is more concerned about "relativity" than the actual salary figures. Once the salary is decent enough for the Nigerian setting, they are okay but they are insisting that the relativity in salaries must be maintained in the health sector. the NMA requests for being started @ a higher level, etc is aimed at restoring the relativity and not actually asking for salary increase. Believe me, if JOHESU accepts for their salaries to be reduced to restore relativity, NMA would be satisfied with their present salaries if such reduction restores relativity. But that cannot happen, so their only lee way is to ask for salary increase to restore back the relativity

[qu. There is no need to be a disgruntled healthcare worker under the head of the medical team (Doctor). Love it that way or you quit your job. [/quote]
...same can also be said of the medics....'there's no need to be disgruntled. If you feel threatened by other profession's upgradement, then quit your job'
i still know doctors even in this country that are respected nt because of their degree but because of their contribution to improving human lifes. Prof Erhabor was my mentor during my time in OAU.
...BTW, only God will know how much hell will be let loose if we dare dream to start the NURSING PRACTITIONER program....where nurses will be backed legally to prescribe....to refer and to order for test.

Don't mind them looking for shortcuts...why did they not go to medical school...i know people who because the want to answer Dr and earn the salary have gone back to University...want to answer Dr through the back door abi?

Doctors are never threatened by other healthworkers. They call the shots. Everything ends on their table. They are the Boss. So no disgruntled Doctors...only disgruntled nurses and co. As you can read from the numerous post here.
No matter the level of upgrading by any healthworker...they can never be a doctor and would never be the head of the medical team. They need to Get over it.

justi4jesu: Doctors should earn more than any other profession or Politicians in any country. IMHO

Because you cant buy life..

And Engrs....? I'm sure you're here because you've never been in a building collapse or a sinking ship or a plunging plane.

34,000 pounds for nurses in the UK? That's a lie. Maybe matrons because it's not even close. Most of them don't get up to 25,000 pounds

[quote author=Forwetinnah]It's funny how people compare salaries but never compare competence, capabilities! What do these so called Medical practitioners really do? Is it to visit hospitals with deadly prescriptions and unfounded diagnosis? No research done, no cure found for ANY DISEASE...MOST OF THEM ARE SO CRASS THAT YOU DOUBT THEIR PROFESSIONALISM!! No respect for patients...nothing nothing!! Yet they keep comparing themselves to their foreign counter parts who REALLY know what it is to save lives!!.

Because they have chosen to remain in the country to serve people like you. ..don't mean they are crass. They are as knowledgeable as their foreign counterparts. That is why when the migrate to any part of the world they excel.
You talking from both sides of your mouth.

My only grouse is that, some of these guys have alot of private clinics, and they even spend more time there then in the government hospitals they are working in.

bumfem:
Awesome!!! Pls let us always feed the public the truth, nothing but the truth.

The guy has posted the salary of of consultant physician in the US in comparison with entry level grads. Doctors out of schl never earn up to sonographers. We all know this .

. I'm sorry! But i really had to do that

This data is very faulty.

What is "highest average salary"?

Is it highest?

Or is it average?

The person that produced this data definitely did not work in consulting.

[quote author=ArabianPrince][/quote]

And for you to think they migrate and become medical practitioners immediately shows you have NO IDEA of what you're talking about...even with their Nigerian certificates they still have to write some exams incase you don't know. I have a nurse friend in Denver and she's still stuggling

zicoraads: My only grouse is that, some of these guys have alot of private clinics, and they even spend more time there then in the government hospitals they are working in.

Exactly. ..