EMILO2STAY: ok,,,,,,,but how much tithe/zakat will i pay from it.

Bidam: it is not a sin to spend it on your lust ok?

DrummaBoy:

Now let's not go there ra ra at all.

Before I proceed, let me refer you to our 58 days academic discussion on tithes. M4 did a sound analysis on tithe not being money. Weigh the arguments for and against and see that tithe being money was never and can never be scriptural:

www.nairaland.com/1548047/theological-discuss-tithing-rhymeyjohn-image123/6#20318249

Image123:

And your many days arguments for and against should not supersede the Word of God.

DrummaBoy:

First I was hoping you would remember that you were part of that project - a major actor for that matter.

Secondly, I was hoping you would remember that we labored to ensure that that project was not another mere "argument" but a solid discuss on tithes meant to be a reference point for other discussions in the future, like this thread.

And lastly, I was hoping you would remember that it was the bible we used mostly as reference in the discussion and that the word "academic" is/was only employed to show the thoroughness the discussion was to assume.

Image123:
Remember, remember. i remember God's Word above my necessary food. You called it "arguments" BTW. The fellow you were addressing was stating a clear Bible truth about the economy. You were not interested in going there AT ALL. Instead, you referred him to a thread. Remember that.

DrummaBoy:

Yes, the choice to repeat those words "remember" was deliberate because of the tendency for people like you to forget. It is hoped if one mentions it enough, you won't forget this time.

What you call "a clear bible truth" should better be called "Image123 position on that discuss" and that is why I referred him there. Mark Miwerds and candour took the pain to thrash out every biblical reason why tithes can never be money, why should I repeat it all over again when an easy reference was available. If the guy you reference was not so lazy, he could have easily gone there to look up what was said. But here you are encouraging him not to when he would have also had the opportunity to see your own submission on the matter and then make an informed decision, rather than wallow in ignorance.

Image123:

It is a clear Bible truth that bible time economy wasn't currency or naira driven.
Hope you meditate on that one line enough till you get it. The rest of what you wrote is not just worth it.

DrummaBoy:

Like I told you before, I will tell you again, this thread is not a tithe discuss or debate, it is meant to draft a tract.

If despite all that what written in the discuss has not convinced you as to the real nature of the tithe, open a new thread for it and I hope those who have time to waste can meet you there. Stop detailing this one.

Image123:

You're crying more than the bereaved bro. Find something to do.

DrummaBoy:

I accept that bereaved aspect; is the fraudulent practice of tithing not as bad as murder?

As long as you are on this thread, I have time for you. And pls don't throw in that "last word" of yours. It won't work this time. I want you to give this the best you've got. Hopefully by the time we are done, you would learn not to dabble into things you should not.

Let's go there...

Gombs: Still counting down to the next 4month...when I'd dig up this thread, and I'd savour its stench of failure

Gombs: Still counting down to the next 4month...when I'd dig up this thread, and I'd savour its stench of failure

trustman:

Always looking at having 'opponents negativities' go down?

Bidam:
...Wish the bible days of ananias and sapphira is here.

trustman:

Luke 6:45:
"The good person out of the good treasure of his heart produces good, and the evil person out of his evil treasure produces evil, [size=14pt]for out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks.[/size]"

trustman:

Luke 6:45:
"The good person out of the good treasure of his heart produces good, and the evil person out of his evil treasure produces evil, [size=14pt]for out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks.[/size]"

trustman:

Luke 6:45:
"The good person out of the good treasure of his heart produces good, and the evil person out of his evil treasure produces evil, [size=14pt]for out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks.[/size]"

alexleo:

Are you afraid of what Bidam said? Is your teaching a lie? Search yourself. I don't understand the panic.

alexleo:

Are you afraid of what Bidam said? Is your teaching a lie? Search yourself. I don't understand the panic.

DrummaBoy:

I believe you are directing your question at the wrong person. It is Bidam you should be asking those question and possibly, also, ask him what could be eating him up.

Check the Genesis of his post here, it has been one diatribe after another. What exactly has anyone said that requires a reminder of Ananias and Saphira? Is it not high time someone shows him the source of his frustrations, which is so well captured in the scripture trustman provided?

If anyone is panicking here, it should be firstly Gombs and then lately Bidam. And for reasons no one can tell because no one has asked them for anything to make the tracts. So the first question that you should be asking them both, or which all of you tithers should be asking yourselves is what exactly is your business here on this thread? And if it is to exercise your freedom of expression, then what exactly is biting you guys about the printing of a tithe tract? Or are you pastors whose business would be threatened by the project?

Let's start with those for now.

DrummaBoy:

I believe you are directing your question at the wrong person. It is Bidam you should be asking those question and possibly, also, ask him what could be eating him up.

Check the Genesis of his post here, it has been one diatribe after another. What exactly has anyone said that requires a reminder of Ananias and Saphira? Is it not high time someone shows him the source of his frustrations, which is so well captured in the scripture trustman provided?

If anyone is panicking here, it should be firstly Gombs and then lately Bidam. And for reasons no one can tell because no one has asked them for anything to make the tracts. So the first question that you should be asking them both, or which all of you tithers should be asking yourselves is what exactly is your business here on this thread? And if it is to exercise your freedom of expression, then what exactly is biting you guys about the printing of a tithe tract? Or are you pastors whose business would be threatened by the project?

Let's start with those for now.

Bidam: Lol

If you are clean then you shouldn't be afraid of my post.

One of the work of the Holy Spirit is God's righteous judgement. Jesus said He will Purge His Church. As for me i am never afraid in the Household of faith. It is only guilty folks like you that are afraid.

Your rantings here like a sissy won't change biblical truth and reality.

The GRACE you seem to enjoy now has an expiry date

alexleo:

Its a very simple thing. If I am not lying about an issue and somebody quotes Ananias case to me i will simply say - no problem. A clear conscience shouldn't panic in such statement. When you panic it shows there is something behind it. Let me tell you that nothing is biting me about what you people are doing. I'm not rigid about tithe. I'm not also convinced to stop and i dont condemn those who are not paying tithe. As you are led pls go ahead. Its a free world. My simple prayer is- If what you people are doing is truly from God, may it prosper but if it is not from God, may it crash. Amen. I dont think the Op banned tithers from commenting. If he did, i will stop commenting.

DrummaBoy:

Lol?

That's a new one. I expected you to say "yawn", but apparently you yourself know that you've overused it and thus the resort to the more common "lol".

I threw out a bate and it caught you. Very good, let's start the "exorcism"...



Nobody is afraid of you, awe, if anythingvat all, it's your cognition we question and that is why one must endure you in an exchange like this bc ideally you should be ignored.



Your friend on this forum, Image123, was the one who came to the new thread on WOF sermonizing about Jesus' parable on the wheat and tares. Telling us that we should not expose errors because Jesus said wheat and tares should grow together. I took pains to explain to him that that scriptures shows us that it is the duty of God's servants to distinguish wheats from tares, something that is well done on that thread. As for rooting out tares, that is the exclusive presrrve of God. We were not doing God's job on that thread.

This is exactly what you have expressed in the above statement.

If God be true to his word, and judgement must start in his house, then every man who has been using the name of Jesus to merchandise the gospel is on a collision course with God's wrath.

Everyman who is teaching a false gospel of a monetary tithe and have set up avenues to fleece Christ flock is also going to collide with this wrath.

All those who have aided and abated this false gospel shall not be left out.

And if I and others, have in anyway stood against Gods righteous will in his church by championing an anti tithe position, we shall also not be left out in Gods judgement (I say this with every sense of responsiblity).



Let your words be seasoned with salt and have grace in them. Even in rebuke, learn to do it in love.



Apparently, for you too.

For what exactly are we without the grace of God?

DrummaBoy:

Good.

And "amen" too to the bolded.

Read my last response to Bidam and see my statement on judgement, that I am ready to be held responsible by God for what I am doing here.

DrummaBoy:

I believe you are directing your question at the wrong person. It is Bidam you should be asking those question and possibly, also, ask him what could be eating him up.

Check the Genesis of his post here, it has been one diatribe after another. What exactly has anyone said that requires a reminder of Ananias and Saphira? Is it not high time someone shows him the source of his frustrations, which is so well captured in the scripture trustman provided?

If anyone is panicking here, it should be firstly Gombs and then lately Bidam. And for reasons no one can tell because no one has asked them for anything to make the tracts. [size=16pt]So the first question that you should be asking them both, or which all of you tithers should be asking yourselves is what exactly is your business here on this thread? [/size]And if it is to exercise your freedom of expression, then what exactly is biting you guys about the printing of a tithe tract? Or are you pastors whose business would be threatened by the project?

Let's start with those for now.

DrummaBoy:



Your friend on this forum, Image123, was the one who came to the new thread on WOF sermonizing about Jesus' parable on the wheat and tares. Telling us that we should not expose errors because Jesus said wheat and tares should grow together. I took pains to explain to him that that scriptures shows us that it is the duty of God's servants to distinguish wheats from tares, something that is well done on that thread. As for rooting out tares, that is the exclusive presrrve of God. We were not doing God's job on that thread.