kanirip:


Jay-Z was never a prolific rapper , he was a brilliant business man!

Are you sure you know what the word prolific means? I would advice you consult an Encarta! Jay-Z is the most prolific rapper alive he puts the P in Prolific only 2-Pac shades it above him because of the hits he made even in death

Reasonable Doubt |
| In My Lifetime, Vol. 1
|| Vol. 2 Hard Knock Life
Hard Knock Life Bonus
|| Vol. 3 Life and Times of S. Carter
The Dynasty Roc La Familia
|| The Blueprint
|| The Best of Both Worlds
The Blueprint 2: The Gift & the Curse (One || Two || 2.1)
The Black Album
|| Unfinished Business
Streets Is Watching
Kingdom Come
American Gangster
And watch out for Blueprint III coming soon

These are all his albums lets not even talk about guest appearances and stuff it would fill 500 pages on Nairaland

chiogo:

Best rapper for where?? Anywayz, I don't have time to write essays.

Where have you been? for real these clowns are laughable

@Sauron
Who does not know that Biggie is better than Jigga? is Biggie alive? besides Biggie was not better on Brooklyn's finest you must have meant I love the Dough Biggie killed Jigga there i won't front but Jigga is better than EM i would argue that from here to Tibet you can't judge EM on one track i repeat lets bring out their bars and compare

@Hardball
No need for your epistle!!

Black Maybach, white seas, black piping
Remind me of Paul McCartney and Mike fighting
You know, +The Girl Is Mine+
+Life's A Bitch+, so +The Whole World Is Mine+
The six-deuce long, the curtains are drawn
Perfectly like a Picasso, Rembrandts and Rocco's
I'm a major player, 40-40's in Vegas at the Palazzo
They said it was not so
Certain things that money can't buy
Like being this fly
'Til then, I'm just going to' ride!
I'm like G-Rap with better transportation
On the road to the riches, reach my +Final Destination+
And the lair, closer to a leer / Aaliyah
Say a +Prayer+, hope I get ta' see her
When I disappear from here - baby, yeah!
But I don't see the ending through these millionaire lenses
Just the Two M's on the emblem
The partition roof, translucent and Humador
Where refrigerators, where Ace of Spades – two I store!
True story, my closet is like two stories
Cut to the happy ending, 'cause I don't do stories
Shawn Corey, real rap
The Maybach is bananas, peel back!
You feel that?
YOUNG! C'mon!

~Sauron~:

The best rapper alive?? I wouldn't quite put it that way too.
However, no one is BETTER than him out there.

hmmm . . . ,  .
don't know about that oo
What about NAS or RAKIM

tope2000:

hmmm . . . ,  .
don't know about that oo
What about NAS or RAKIM

Nas?? He is very good!!!
One of the best out there. . . . .But is he better than Em??
I don't think so.

~Sauron~:

Nas?? He is very good!!!
One of the best out there. . . . .But is he better than Em??
I don't think so.

Honestly i dont really like eminem's song because he disses people but he def can spit, his songs i prolly like the most are:
Stan
The way i am
Guilty Conscience
Marshall Mathers
Cleanin' Out My Closet
Curtains Close
Like Toy Soldiers
Mockingbird

But i still believe Nas, Rakim, Talib Kweli, Common or Mos def are def better to me

tope2000:

Honestly i don't really like eminem's song because he disses people but he def can spit, his songs i prolly like the most are:
Stan
The way i am
Guilty Conscience
Marshall Mathers
Cleanin' Out My Closet
Curtains Close
Like Toy Soldiers
Mockingbird

But i still believe Nas, Rakim, Talib Kweli, Common or Mos def are def better to me

All these songs are for the soft minds. . . .

Try Criminal,
Amityville
Brain Damage
Rock Bottom
Kill You
Never Knew
Drips
Till I Collapse

well of course i have a soft mind
B.T.W
i hear is now an over-sized man, is that why he aint releasing anything

_{will try those songs out though}

No one is better than him? You know that's a lie. When was the last time he released an album?

Anywayz, like I always say, this whole 'best rapper' argument is a matter of opinion. just Cuz he's ur best doesn't mean everybody should accept that. Hell, some people consider Lil' wayne the best rapper out there.

@ Sauron

You musta listened to all those Bis' tracks with your ears closed.No one better than Em? U've been in Kim too! Yeah!!!!!!!!

tope2000:

well of course i have a soft mind

I'm a genius!!!

_{will try those songs out though}

please do!!!

chiogo:

No one is better than him? You know that's a lie. When was the last time he released an album?

Anywayz, like I always say, this whole 'best rapper' argument is a matter of opinion. just because he's ur best doesn't mean everybody should accept that. Hell, some people consider little' wayne the best rapper out there.

The last time he released an album had nuthing to do with this.
When was the last time BIG n 2pac released their own albums? 12 years ago!!!
Does that make em rubbish?
Big Punisher's last album was in 2000 or so but he is better than Li'l Wayne, LLCool J and Kanye West.

@ swat,

Canibus better than Em?? How??

LOL, can u hear ur own joke? When last did biggie and 2pac release albums? Umm, they're dead but for someone who is alive and not releasing, I'm sorry but such an artist is as good as dead. It's not like he's retired. Where's sisqo today? Isn't it lack of consistency that made him fade?

Well, I'm not gonna argue over eminem or rap music. I'm still tryn@ figure out whether or not rap is evil since I heard many of these so-called rappers belong to the masonry crap. But anywayz, he's not the best.

chiogo:

LOL, can u hear ur own joke? When last did biggie and 2pac release albums? Umm, they're dead but for someone who is alive and not releasing, I'm sorry but such an artist is as good as dead. It's not like he's retired. Where's sisqo today? Isn't it lack of consistency that made him fade?

Eminem released "THE REUP" in 2006. . . .
Of course, one should not expect MTV fans to know about the album so lets leave that.

Michael Jackson in the 80s was releasing one classic album every 4 years. . . . . .
Was he seen to be dead then? Is Dr Dre dead??

OFF THE WALL in 1979. . . . .THRILLER in 83. . . . .BAD in 87. . . . .HISTORY in 1991.
All these albums went platinum/diamond. . . . .

MTV fans indeed. That's actually where you can find his music, being that he's white(no pun intended) because I never saw his music on BET. Last time I heard from him was on Akon's 'smack that' and his rapping was uh, not up to average. . .Twas more of a joke. "He's the one singing the song that's playing" Okk, I love slimshady, lol, till he started putting his family headaches on blast. Anyway, that's not the reason because he must have been rapping about halie for ages, I guess he just got boring. Best rapper alive?? I guess you're entitled to ur opinion. Rap music is gradually dying anyway.

Bis is lyrically better than Em

chiogo:

MTV fans indeed. That's actually where you can find his music, being that he's white(no pun intended) because I never saw his music on BET.  Last time I heard from him was on Akon's 'smack that' and his rapping was uh, not up to averageTwas more of a joke. "He's the one singing the song that's playing" Okk, I love slimshady, lol, till he started putting his family headaches on blast. Anyway, that's not the reason because he must have been rapping about halie for ages, I guess he just got boring. Best rapper alive?? I guess you're entitled to ur opinion. Rap music is gradually dying anyway.

U see what i am saying??
There are rap fans and there are RAP FANS.
To the former. . . . . .They don't know whatz up until they see tracks on MTV and Kiss. . . . . .
To the latter. . . . They get to hear the underground tracks that radio and TV would NEVER PLAY. . . . .

I cannot believe none of y'all heard about THE REUP album. . . .
Wait a min. . . . .U didn't see Eminem on "You Don't Know" on MTV in 2006??
Cheese n Rice. . . . .How can anyone use Eminem's lyrics on SMACK THAT to rate him??
What about "THERE THEY GO" on Obie Trice's album??
Chiogo, u need to sign up @ itunes.

@ Kaydee,

Canibus is lyrically supreme(wide range of subjects, complexity and delivery)
However, Eminem would murder him with rhymes, flows, breath control, story telling and sick metaphors!!!!

@Sauron
The way you are going on and on about this RE-UP album one would think its a classic i have heard 4 tracks on it and it was absolute garbage that CD would make a very good weed plate

@chiogo
Don't remind me of those whack raps please Looking like one of them pussycat dolls
Anyone thatlistened to Encore would know that EM was fast running out of bars

A-40:

@Sauron
The way you are going on and on about this RE-UP album one would think its a classic i have heard 4 tracks on it and it was absolute garbage that CD would make a very good weed plate

There's no WACK track on "The ReUp"
I made Eldee listen to it some months ago and he confirmed the album was a classic.
Of course. . . . .It's too underground for the frail hearts to get a hold of it. . . .
All the tracks that featured Eminem on that album would beat any Jigga's track down in the last 2 years!!!!

@~sauron~, "you dunno"?? Isn't that the crap by them G-unot crew? Actually, you're right, if it ain't on BET or MTV, I ain't tryn@ listen to it. I do use itunes, dunno about signing up but umm, yeah, I need to see one video before copping an album.

Most of the time, I only get the one I saw the video on tv cuz they're usually the best in the album, the rest are just there. And yes, I'll judge him based on 'smack that' afterall, no one is better than him. LOl, frail hearts. his songs are more like sob stories so maybe he sings for frail hearts.

@A-40, LOL, it wasn't that bad.

There are whack tracks ooh even the hit was whack plus the 4 i heard making 5 i would not even take Eldee's word for it because i heard those tracks myself lol no wonder it was an underground album thats a smart move so he had a ready made excuse if it didn't do too well.Go and listen to American Gangster again take a listen to Fallin and Sweet not to talk of Party Life EM is not on Jigga's league abeg Jay is way higher

chiogo:

@~sauron~, "you don't know"?? Isn't that the crap by them G-unot crew? Actually, you're right, if it ain't on BET or MTV, I ain't tryn@ listen to it. I do use itunes, don't know about signing up but umm, yeah, I need to see one video before copping an album.

That explains why u feel this way.

Most of the time, I only get the one I saw the video on tv because they're usually the best in the album, the rest are just there. And yes, I'll judge him based on 'smack that' afterall, no one is better than him. LOl, frail hearts. his songs are more like sob stories so maybe he sings for frail hearts.

The best track on any rap album WILL NOT even make it to the radio/TV.
U have to cop the album to listen to them. . . . . .
Tracks like "We As Americans", "Criminal" and "Amityville". . . .MTV would explode atomically if they play such songs.

A-40:

There are whack tracks ooh even the hit was whack plus the 4 i heard making 5 i would not even take Eldee's word for it because i heard those tracks myself lol no wonder it was an underground album thats a smart move so he had a ready made excuse if it didn't do too well.Go and listen to American Gangster again take a listen to Fallin and Sweet not to talk of Party Life EM is not on Jigga's league abeg Jay is way higher

American's Gangster??
Blue Magic or ROC-Boys?? Puh-leeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaze, Jigga has lost the MOJO!!!
He lost his composure after BLUEPRINT. . . . . .
THE REUP would chew every track on A-G and spit the bones n sinews on Jigga's face.

@~sauron~, hmmn, I don't think so. I personally think 'hero' is the best song from Nas' untitled. Roc boy and Blue magic are Jay-z's best from American gangsta. These were the ones shown on tv. LOL, maybe it's just me.

~Sauron~:

American's Gangster??
Blue Magic or ROC-Boys?? Puh-leeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaze, Jigga has lost the MOJO!!!
He lost his composure after BLUEPRINT. . . . . .

THE REUP would chew every track on A-G and spit the bones n sinews on Jigga's face.

You should know better to compare American Gangster to _{the re-up} i think you have committed enough rap blasphemy for one day

Are you sure you have listened to Blue Magic well? Any song with these kind of bars can not be considered as whack

So what if you flip a couple words
I could triple that in birds
open your mind you see the circus in the sky
I'm Ringling brothers Barnum and Bailey with the pies
No matter how you slice it I'm your motherfucking guy
Just like a B-Boy with 360 waves
Do the same with the pot, still come back beige.
Whether writers are par, whether powder the jar
Whip it around, it still comes back hard.
So easily do I w-h-i-p
My repitition with wrists will bring you kilo biggers.
I got kreole C.O. bitches for my niggas who slipped, became prisoners
Trees taped to the visitors
You already know what the business is
Unnecessary commissary, boy we live this shit
Niggas wanna bring the 80s back
It's okay with me, that's where they made me at
Except I don't write on the wall
I write my name in the history books, hustling in the hall (hustling in the hall)
Nah, I don't spin on my head
I spin work in the pots so I can spend my bread

Feds, they like wack rappers, tried as they may, couldn't get me on the hook
D.A. wanna indict me
Cause fish scales in my veins like a pisces
The pyrex pot, rolled up my sleeves
Turn one into two like a Siamese Twin

@ A-40,

Can u read Chiogo's comment??
She thinks Blue Magic n Roc Boys are the best tracks on American Gangster. . . .U see what i am saying??

Anyways. . . . U call those rhymez!!!
Jigga is wack. . . . . .let me cop some Em's metaphors from the RE-UP.
This is what Eminem feels about the whole Best Rapper bullshit. . . . . .

Nothin' can stop and nothin' can change it
you better just make new living arrangements,
if you think your the top and king of the castle
You about to get thrown off the throne and ripped a new asshole
All I hear is, I'm best at this an I'm best at that,
but I don't hear my name No man brought up in rap
and I don't usually trip or dare get caught up in that
but when they say one of the best, I'm nowhere thought of as that
Not even the same league as Jay-Z
Nas, Pac, Biggie or maybe they'll name me
Somewhere down at the bottom right after AZ
or say "he ripped that Biggie verse or that Jay-Z
Yo, his verses were crazy on that Renegade beat
but I ain't never bought no whole CD of Shady
And I all I hear is pop tunes come on the rad-i-o
And they play 'em 20 times in a row daily"
And that very well may be the same reason they don't say me
when they speak on hip-hop legends which has amazed me
Cause I thought the formula was to hit mainstream
and make it big-big-big-big-b-baby


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cAXr0Frgsc             (Thatz the song on U-tube)
Tell me if any of Jigga or Nas can rip through a song like that like hot knife on BUTTER.
Hombre, u won't find a better lyrical skill this DECADE.

@Sauron
Blue Magic and Roc Boys are not the best tracks on American Gangster i know that for sure

A-40:

So what if you flip a couple words
I could triple that in birds
open your mind you see the circus in the sky
I'm Ringling brothers Barnum and Bailey with the pies
No matter how you slice it I'm your motherfucking guy
Niggas want to bring the 80s back
It's okay with me, that's where they made me at
Except I don't write on the wall
I write my name in the history books, hustling in the hall (hustling in the hall)
Nah, I don't spin on my head
I spin work in the pots so I can spend my bread

Feds, they like wack rappers, tried as they may, couldn't get me on the hook
D.A. want to indict me
Cause fish scales in my veins like a pisces
The pyrex pot, rolled up my sleeves
Turn one into two like a Siamese Twin

If you tell me those did not make any sense to you then you don't know your rap!! Those are metaphors and word-plays at their optimum

You know the most annoying part of this argument? you don't even quote the tight lines of EM its the whack ones you go ahead and bring out i could help you with better lines from EM but they still wouldn't come close to Nas or Jigga

Rubber-grip-holder, reloader
Come at me I'ma rip your soliders in half
Silverback ape, nickle-plated mag
Young, rich, and flashy
Young, b! tch, I'm nasty
All black clothes til ice lay on me so classy
And every time I close my lids
I can still see the borough, I can still see the Bridge
I can still see the dreams that my niqqas ain't never lived to see
Tell them angels open the door for me
From nine berettas and moving raw
To chilling in wine cellars
Sticks and humidors
That's what I call mature
That's what I call a g
That's what I call a love-vendor
That's what I call a gangsta
To the fullest,
I try to make more cream
By every September 14th, that's my dream
So I can be more clean, as I grow yearly
I can see things more clearly
That's why they fear me

Compare those lyrics to the mumble-jumble that EM spat

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Echeozo:

Eminem is indeed the best. Miss him so much.

Sorry but you'll have to miss him some more. He's a dead man walking _{*died after Marshall Mathers LP*}

@HannibalSauron

Don't even know where to start with you. Even sistas like Chiogo and Tope are telling you the truth 'bout this your Em obsession. Em is good but best rapper alive? No way!

And for me, I won't even go as far as all those greats like Rakim, KRS1, etc. I'm with Eldee who said "alive" here is in the context of "alive and still active". That's why I keep referring to Nas. Just Nas. How can you compare Em to Nas I just don't get it. We all have a right to love our favourite artistes to pieces. But let's always be objective. I can even imagine the two of 'em on a joint. Nas would defeat Em with laid-back flows[i][/i]. He won't even rush, the job would be done easily, quickly and smoothly. 'Member his flows on "Mastermind"? That's the kind of flows I mean.

Like Chiogo, I got no time to write an essay. I got a prescription for your Eminemania though. Go listen to Stan 8 times daily for the next 3 months. If symptoms persist after 6 weeks, consult your doctor.

Jackal = Sauron

If that is true then,i'm outta here.He'll never agree!!! I'm exhausted already

Yes na. Jackal=Hannibal=Sauron. And when Em's involved, you know what's the dilly yo. . .

Eminem could'nt even battle DMX. The wigga had to beg. Some few indirect jabs on the track 'party up' was enough silence him.
But i'd like to see eminem have a go at the wackest rapper alive -lil' wayne.

@A40,
U should have quoted the 2nd verse of NaS' be a nigga too.
That alone can knock sauron him out so we can end this phoney thread.

Bamsyle:

@HannibalSauron

Don't even know where to start with you. Even sistas like Chiogo and Tope are telling you the truth 'bout this your Em obsession. Em is good but best rapper alive? No way!

The sisters are more conversant with the radio/TV-friendly beats. . . .
They only get to hear the pop side of Eminem's songs not the hardcore ones.

And for me, I won't even go as far as all those greats like Rakim, KRS1, etc. I'm with Eldee who said "alive" here is in the context of "alive and still active". That's why I keep referring to Nas. Just Nas. How can you compare Em to Nas I just don't get it. We all have a right to love our favourite artistes to pieces. But let's always be objective. I can even imagine the two of 'em on a joint. Nas would defeat Em with laid-back flows[i][/i]. He won't even rush, the job would be done easily, quickly and smoothly. 'Member his flows on "Mastermind"? That's the kind of flows I mean.

Sing For The Moment, Stan, Rock Bottom were all laid back flows.
Eminem makes rhymes with words that shouldn't rhyme at all . . . . .He's got a supreme lyrical prowess that sets him apart from the other cats.
One track i would like you to feel is Till I Collapse(feat. Nate Dogg). . . . .He is prolly the only one alive that can make 1.2.3.4 rhyme together.
Em is the most talented. Forget Nas. . . . .He used to be but after STILLMATIC, Nigga died.

Like Chiogo, I got no time to write an essay. I got a prescription for your Eminemania though. Go listen to Stan 8 times daily for the next 3 months. If symptoms persist after 6 weeks, consult your doctor.

I have listened to that album more than any other rap album on the planet.
Eminem confirmed his legendary status with the album. . . . .He's been too consistent.
3 classics in 4 albums is 75% efficiency. . . . . .Nas can only lay claims to 4 classics in 9 albums(including THE LOST TAPES) which is 44%.
Besides, Eminem has always dominated his collabo. . . . . . I cannot remember the last time ANY RAPPER sliced em on a RAP TRACK.
Have u forgotten FORGOT ABOUT DRE?? Cheese n Rice!!! Eminem would murder, bury and exorcise the spirit of Nas in a rap battle, He grew up battling.

@bgees
Pardon me for leaving that verse out Nairaland for just shut down.Comparing EM to Jay-Z and Nas is laughable at best

Its an open secret that EM ran out of gas since the Eminem Show album

A-40:

@bgees
Pardon me for leaving that verse out Nairaland for just shut down.Comparing EM to Jay-Z and Nas is laughable at best

Its an open secret that EM ran out of gas since the Eminem Show album

Isn't that his LAST ALBUM?
3 classics and one mediocre album does not make him WACK.
What about Nas that had "It Was Written", "I Am. . . " and "Nastradamus"(3 consecutive wacks) and Jigga who had Blueprint 2, Black Album, Kingdom Come and American Gangster(4 wack albums in succession).
Eminem's collabo with any rapper has seen him triumph . . . .Name one rapper Eminem hasn't killed on their own track.