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Re: Catholic Priests That Changed The World by tete7000(m): 3:21pm On Aug 24, 2014 |
Emmalot121: I have asked this question and I will ask it again do the catholic belief Jesus is the child of Mary or Mary is the child of Jesus,if its the former,then its too bad.I also belief Mary is not as holy as to give birth to the one as Holy as the son of God,I would only tag her as the luckiest of women. Heresy! What you believe changes nothing. Elizabeth filled with the Holy Spirit exclaimed: ' 43 But why am I so favoured, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? 44 As soon as the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the baby in my womb leaped for joy. (Lk 1:43-44)'. Kindly check your scripture for the bolded. If she was lucky why hadn't you been lucky to be Jesus yourself? 2 Likes |
Re: Catholic Priests That Changed The World by tete7000(m): 3:28pm On Aug 24, 2014 |
chinex276: My candid advice 2 all nairaland catholics: PLS STOP WORSHIPPING SISTER MARY, ABI NA ANTY MARY OR MOTHER MARY, PLS STOP WORSHIPPING HER, ONLY CHRIST SAVES, APART FRM HIM NO OTHER MEANS.Your advice is not needed and won't be heeded. Thanks 2 Likes |
Re: Catholic Priests That Changed The World by Curiouscity(m): 3:39pm On Aug 24, 2014 |
9jalyte:10000 likes! No mind us with our religiosity without substance. We have the highest number of denominations, yet, we are poorest in compassion and 90% of us cheat in one form or the other. Empty barrels make the loudest noise. 1 Like |
Re: Catholic Priests That Changed The World by CharlieMaria(m): 3:39pm On Aug 24, 2014 |
Emmalot121: With this I ask you,Is Christ the son of God or Son of Mary.If all things were created in the presence of Christ,that must include Mary.If a sinless and holy man like John the Baptist could count himself unworthy to Baptise Jesus,how worthy was Mary.For Christ was born for the sinful and not the sinless and Mary was a mortal.And the Bible said for all have sinned and have fallen short of Glory of God.For Mary might have been sinless as at the birth of Christ but according to the words of John the Baptist,was not holy enough to give birth to the son of God,who was even before the creation of Adam.It is true that Mary was created by God. But that same God in the person of Jesus Christ became flesh in Mary's womb. Go to Jn1:1and verse 14. In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God. And the word was made flesh and dwelt among us. The word was made flesh in Marys womb. Your mother is your mother not because your mother created your soul but because your soul assumed flesh in your mother's womb. In the same vein Jesus who is truly God and truly man according to philpians2:5 his soul took flesh in Marys womb. Therefore making Mary the True Mother of Jesus. What are you to your mother? Are you not his son? Did she create your soul? If you understand this then you will understand how Mary became and us still the true Mother of Jesus who is God and man. Jn19:26 calls Mary the mother of Jesus. Mt2:11 says Mary is the true mother of Jesus. After seeing these you still deny that Jesus is the Son of Mary? That Mary has maternal right over Jesus? Think brother. 2 Likes |
Re: Catholic Priests That Changed The World by CharlieMaria(m): 3:40pm On Aug 24, 2014 |
tete7000:Please help me and ask him. |
Re: Catholic Priests That Changed The World by CharlieMaria(m): 3:51pm On Aug 24, 2014 |
Emmalot121: Now I see you worship Mary.Maybe you think Jesus first existed after his birth by Mary,No!Do you agree with me that before everyone was created Christ existed and not anyone including Mary was created without his knowledge.. You know that if we go by that quotation Rom3:23 that all have sinned and fallen short of Gods glory the devil can also by that suggest to you that all includes Jesus our sinless savior. That is why St Paul's in romans5:19 rephrased his statement saying Many were made sinners, thereby excluding Jesus and Mary. People must stop literal translation of the bible. @ the second bolded: is there any place in the bible that mentioned that Mary was a sinner? Or became a sinner after the birth of Jesus? Or that she was born in sin? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Catholic Priests That Changed The World by Sheenor: 3:56pm On Aug 24, 2014 |
Aw abt mie....... ![]() |
Re: Catholic Priests That Changed The World by k2039: 4:08pm On Aug 24, 2014 |
chukwudi44: Please every catholic should ignore the attention seeking Emmalot121 guy and concentrate on the message heremy good friend, how are you? |
Re: Catholic Priests That Changed The World by Emmalot121(m): 4:31pm On Aug 24, 2014 |
CharlieMaria:I totally agree Mary is the EATHLY mother of Jesus but do you agree Jesus is the HEAVENLY father of Mary & its the heavenly part that matters to me my dear Brother. |
Re: Catholic Priests That Changed The World by Emmalot121(m): 4:39pm On Aug 24, 2014 |
icekidgodfrey:Which part of my English needs to be polished?I really think you are partially drunk ![]() |
Re: Catholic Priests That Changed The World by QAPHAYNE: 5:18pm On Aug 24, 2014 |
Olamilekan08: Yeah probably why he must have been doubly scared as a priest he must have observed ist hand the persecution of deviants |
Re: Catholic Priests That Changed The World by Nobody: 5:19pm On Aug 24, 2014 |
chinex276:make person hear word jor! 1 Like |
Re: Catholic Priests That Changed The World by JohnsonEmma(m): 5:27pm On Aug 24, 2014 |
Proudly Catholic. 2 Likes |
Re: Catholic Priests That Changed The World by Nobody: 5:58pm On Aug 24, 2014 |
Was he a catholic priest or you don't understand the topic?? Mtchewwww CzarChris: And why is Martin Luther not on this list? I can see that after all these centuries, the catholic church hasn't forgive him because of his publications, particularly his "Disputation of Martin Luther on the |
Re: Catholic Priests That Changed The World by Nobody: 5:58pm On Aug 24, 2014 |
korel9: If they all spent their Sundays on nairaland like you they won't have made it this far Noy at all dude. FTC has become boring for moi ![]() |
Re: Catholic Priests That Changed The World by QAPHAYNE: 6:02pm On Aug 24, 2014 |
Sheenor: Aw abt mie....... ![]() |
Re: Catholic Priests That Changed The World by Nobody: 6:03pm On Aug 24, 2014 |
Is that you on profile pics ![]() panachuku: all i knw is dat xtainity is a scam |
Re: Catholic Priests That Changed The World by CzarChris(m): 6:18pm On Aug 24, 2014 |
Sobrit:So your interpretation of the woman in Rev. 12 is that its Mary abi? SMH, youngman, the woman described there is the church and the devil there signifies the devil persecuting the church. Truly ignorance is bliss. Read man READ!!! |
Re: Catholic Priests That Changed The World by CzarChris(m): 6:27pm On Aug 24, 2014 |
peppyluv02: Was he a catholic priest or you don't understand the topic?? MtchewwwwYounglady, Martin Luther was born 10 Nov. 1483 and ordained a Catholic priest in 1507 and he died on the 18 of Feb 1546, he was a monk, priest, theologian and professor. He is seen as the father of the Lutheran church and the Protestant Movement. There's something called Google and Google is your friend girl, don't just use your phone/internet access for chating, pinging and facebooking. Educate yourself! SMDH 4 u. |
Re: Catholic Priests That Changed The World by Aegon(m): 6:28pm On Aug 24, 2014 |
frodobee: Is it limited to sciences? Can we add humanities? St Augustine of Hippo This guy is truly blessed with his works on philosophy, religion and general right living. Every student of philosophy and politics take note. St John of the Cross. This guy is best known for his work 'Dark night of the soul' this book and my girlfriend saved me from despair during my personal soul night. Any body who's passing through a difficult time should read this masterpiece. Sometimes it may be spiritually gain full to have to pass through certain hard times. its a must for philosophy enthusiasts. |
Re: Catholic Priests That Changed The World by ezugegere(m): 7:46pm On Aug 24, 2014 |
Emmalot121: With this I ask you,Is Christ the son of God or Son of Mary.If all things were created in the presence of Christ,that must include Mary.If a sinless and holy man like John the Baptist could count himself unworthy to Baptise Jesus,how worthy was Mary.For Christ was born for the sinful and not the sinless and Mary was a mortal.And the Bible said for all have sinned and have fallen short of Glory of God.For Mary might have been sinless as at the birth of Christ but according to the words of John the Baptist,was not holy enough to give birth to the son of God,who was even before the creation of Adam. What does the Angel Gabriel mean when he said Mary was "full of grace" Can she be a sinner and still be full of grace? What does the Holy Spirit mean, when speaking through Elizabeth, called Mary the "most blessed amongst women", and Elizabeth went on to call her "mother of the Lord"? What does Mary mean when, speaking through the influence of the Holy Spirit said: "Hence forth, all ages will call me blessed"? Can you explain? 1 Like |
Re: Catholic Priests That Changed The World by Emmalot121(m): 8:24pm On Aug 24, 2014 |
ezugegere:I had made up my mind to close my eyes to this thread but for the fact that you asked me a question which is not rhetorical. I agree with everything you said that Mary is the EARTHLY mother of Jesus but do you agree with Jesus is the HEAVENLY father of Mary and to me its the HEAVENLY part that should matter to christians. |
Re: Catholic Priests That Changed The World by Noblemarce: 8:24pm On Aug 24, 2014 |
Emmalot121: I have asked this question and I will ask it again do the catholic belief Jesus is the child of Mary or Mary is the child of Jesus,if its the former,then its too bad.I also belief Mary is not as holy as to give birth to the one as Holy as the son of God,I would only tag her as the luckiest of women.what concerns mary n what the op wrote, pls u need to grow up u're too religious, now for ur notice, the op is writing about the achievements of these great men n not MARY!!! 1 Like |
Re: Catholic Priests That Changed The World by rossyc(f): 8:43pm On Aug 24, 2014 |
Emmalot121: I have asked this question and I will ask it again do the catholic belief Jesus is the child of Mary or Mary is the child of Jesus,if its the former,then its too bad.I also belief Mary is not as holy as to give birth to the one as Holy as the son of God,I would only tag her as the luckiest of women.. Mary is the mother of Jesus. She was chosen to fulfill the prophecy. That is why it is termed Immaculate conception.. |
Re: Catholic Priests That Changed The World by Nobody: 9:01pm On Aug 24, 2014 |
We are talking of those who were faithful to the church and died as priests not protestants. SMDA 4 U ![]() CzarChris: Younglady, Martin Luther was born 10 Nov. 1483 and ordained a Catholic priest in 1507 and he died on the 18 of Feb 1546, he was a monk, priest, theologian and professor. He is seen as the father of the Lutheran church and the Protestant Movement. |
Re: Catholic Priests That Changed The World by CharlieMaria(m): 10:01pm On Aug 24, 2014 |
Emmalot121: I totally agree Mary is the EATHLY mother of Jesus but do you agree Jesus is the HEAVENLY father of Mary & its the heavenly part that matters to me my dear Brother.And Jesus has never ceased even now that he is in heaven to be the mother of Jesus. |
Re: Catholic Priests That Changed The World by declaro(m): 10:07pm On Aug 24, 2014 |
Emmalot121: I have asked this question and I will ask it again do the catholic belief Jesus is the child of Mary or Mary is the child of Jesus,if its the former,then its too bad.I also belief Mary is not as holy as to give birth to the one as Holy as the son of God,I would only tag her as the luckiest of women. Brother, I have answered you this question yesterday on another topic as below: 1. Catholics does not worship Mary mother of Jesus, but honoring her just like the way you respect and honor your parents and your friend's parents. 2. Catholics are nothing but Christians, that believes in Jesus Christ and baptized in the name of Thy Father and of Thy Son and of Thy Holy Spirit. 3. Catholics also believe in the Gospel of John 1:3 (All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made). And Mary mother of Jesus also acknowledged that she is handmaid of God in the Gospel of Luke 1:38 (And Mary said, Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to thy word. And the angel departed from her). 4. Apart from Mary mother of Jesus there are other Mary mentioned in the bible like "Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene (John 19:25)", "Mary the mother of James and Joses (Matthew 27:56). But bible always specify the Mother of Jesus wherever her name is been mentioned in the bible, examples in; John 19:25, Acts 1:14, Matthew 1:18, Luke 2:34, Matthew 2:11, John 19:26, John 2:1 etc. In fact, the Gospel of John 2:1 called Mary mother of Jesus (And the third day there was a marriage in Cana of Galilee; and Mary the mother of Jesus was there ![]() 5. At the time Mary mother of Jesus visited Elizabeth, Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit and she spark out in a loud voice and said..... In the Gospel of Luke 1:43 she called Mary the mother of my Lord {some bible versions has it as the mother of my God}, (Luke 1:43 said, And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?). But for more clarifications, I will let you put your question this way. Does the Catholics believe that Mary created Jesus or do they believe that Jesus created Mary? The answer will be capital NO because Catholics believe that Jesus Christ (God) created both heaven and earth and everything in it including Mary the mother of Jesus. But going contrary to the Bible will be blaspheming. Catholic is fulling what is written in the bible Luke 1:48 (For he hath regarded the low estate of his handmaiden: for, behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.) |
Re: Catholic Priests That Changed The World by marianazme(f): 10:33pm On Aug 24, 2014 |
Padre Pio (Priest, Religious, Stigmatic and Confessor): His bio is so unimaginable and faith inspiring. I just read his bio on wiki and my mouth was open all through. He was a man of prayer and suffering. Link: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pio_of_Pietrelcina 2 Likes
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Re: Catholic Priests That Changed The World by Ela59: 10:39pm On Aug 24, 2014 |
uzolexis:Because She was carring the savior of the world. John in his mother womb, was sent to announce the fortcoming of Christ. |
Re: Catholic Priests That Changed The World by cassyrooy(m): 10:44pm On Aug 24, 2014 |
QAPHAYNE: 3) THOMAS AQUINAS: Atheists will definitely know this guy, this guy defied his family to join the DOMINICAN ORDER his SUMMA THEOLOGICA is still used in the seminary till date. He is the PATRON SAINTS OF STUDENTS. his family once locked him in a tower, sent in a prostitute just to prevent him from being a priestDamn! The boy good. He damn too good. 1 Like |
Re: Catholic Priests That Changed The World by cassyrooy(m): 10:48pm On Aug 24, 2014 |
QAPHAYNE: 4) NICHOLAS COPERNICUS : There is some doubt as to whether CopernicusRev. Father NICHOLAS COPERNICUS the Father of Astronomy. SMH |
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