Emmalot121: I have asked this question and I will ask it again do the catholic belief Jesus is the child of Mary or Mary is the child of Jesus,if its the former,then its too bad.I also belief Mary is not as holy as to give birth to the one as Holy as the son of God,I would only tag her as the luckiest of women.

chinex276: My candid advice 2 all nairaland catholics: PLS STOP WORSHIPPING SISTER MARY, ABI NA ANTY MARY OR MOTHER MARY, PLS STOP WORSHIPPING HER, ONLY CHRIST SAVES, APART FRM HIM NO OTHER MEANS.
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I rest my kase

9jalyte:

My friend, I am ashamed of how you are locked up in the bottle of infantile. Someone was pointing at great achievements of some clergy to human development, all you can bring up is an outdated debate that has no significance. The protestants used those debates to justify their separation into a more "God-centered" religious order, ok, over the years what have they done better than the Catholics. And if I may ask, what is your business with what they believe. I hate it how Nigerians are so marooned by religion that they can not think of anything creative. Infact, my Chinese friend says it is lack of creativity that drives us to always fall on our knees asking God for our daily bread. Those priests mentioned have achieved greatness for mankind, ok, you who understands God better based on your wisdom, what is your own contribution.

We should get rid of this our intellectual shallowness and begin to work with our head. There is definitely nothing new to preach in Christianity, every adult christian knows what is sin and what is not. What we lack now is the substance to practice practical christianity, which will be a product of your resourcefulness. Just look at our campuses, the strongest student associations are the religious groups. If students can devote same energy and resource in forming cooperatives for developmental purposes, God knows where we will be today.

So please, transport your self to 2014, seems you were left behind at 1820.

Emmalot121: With this I ask you,Is Christ the son of God or Son of Mary.If all things were created in the presence of Christ,that must include Mary.If a sinless and holy man like John the Baptist could count himself unworthy to Baptise Jesus,how worthy was Mary.For Christ was born for the sinful and not the sinless and Mary was a mortal.And the Bible said for all have sinned and have fallen short of Glory of God.For Mary might have been sinless as at the birth of Christ but according to the words of John the Baptist,was not holy enough to give birth to the son of God,who was even before the creation of Adam.

tete7000:

Heresy!
What you believe changes nothing. Elizabeth filled with the Holy Spirit exclaimed: ' 43 But why am I so favoured, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? 44 As soon as the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the baby in my womb leaped for joy. (Lk 1:43-44)'. Kindly check your scripture for the bolded. If she was lucky why hadn't you been lucky to be Jesus yourself?

Emmalot121: Now I see you worship Mary.Maybe you think Jesus first existed after his birth by Mary,No!Do you agree with me that before everyone was created Christ existed and not anyone including Mary was created without his knowledge.
Even John the Baptist who said he was created after Jesus,went into wilderness,preached about his comming and event baptised the messiah,who all can say never lived like human still felt himself less worthy and with all this,the Bible said he will be the least man in heaven.Then who is Mary when the Bible practically said:For all have sinned(including Mary) and have fallen short of the Glory of God.
[b]Mary might not have sin in her as at the birth of Christ,but was born a sinner,[/b]as the bible even proves to us that Christ ate and drank with sinners.
Finally,the Bible says:Thou shall have no other god except for me.Mary is the handmaid of God,a child and servant of Christ,for Christ is no human,but a Holy Spirit and son of God,who came through a mortal,Mary,to cleanse and wash away our sins.
Then I leave you with a question,who do you really think Jesus Christ is?Son of Mary or Son of God

chukwudi44: Please every catholic should ignore the attention seeking Emmalot121 guy and concentrate on the message here

CharlieMaria:
It is true that Mary was created by God. But that same God in the person of Jesus Christ became flesh in Mary's womb. Go to Jn1:1and verse 14. In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God. And the word was made flesh and dwelt among us. The word was made flesh in Marys womb. Your mother is your mother not because your mother created your soul but because your soul assumed flesh in your mother's womb. In the same vein Jesus who is truly God and truly man according to philpians2:5 his soul took flesh in Marys womb. Therefore making Mary the True Mother of Jesus. What are you to your mother? Are you not his son? Did she create your soul? If you understand this then you will understand how Mary became and us still the true Mother of Jesus who is God and man. Jn19:26 calls Mary the mother of Jesus. Mt2:11 says Mary is the true mother of Jesus. After seeing these you still deny that Jesus is the Son of Mary? That Mary has maternal right over Jesus? Think brother.

icekidgodfrey:

go polish your english, then i'd consider replying your critics. Nairaland really need to start setting standards, this forum shouldn't be for just anybody!!

Olamilekan08:
Hmmm.. From the stories of Copernicus and Galileo that i've come across anywhere, he didnt publish his work for the fear of being persecuted by the church, because then, the church believe in the earth being the centre of the universe. And we all know what happen to those who oppose the church then.
This is the first time i am seeing this.

chinex276:
so wat do u call bowing 2 her statue, praying 2 her, asking her 2 pray 4 u wen d Bible clearly says JESUS IS D ONLY WAY 2 D FATHER, nd in d 10commandments Jesus told us not 2 bow 2 any image watsoeva.
If God would have wanted u 2 honour ur so-called moda of God, it should be written in d Bible clearly 4 every1 2 see nd practice, bt as 4 CATHOLICS,,, I jus dnt knw wat 2 say....
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Pls stop living on d illusion dat u're honouring mary, u r purely worshipping d her.
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Btw i am an ex-catholic, a very devouted block rosarian at dat, so u cant tell me anything abt d catholic faith.

CzarChris: And why is Martin Luther not on this list? I can see that after all these centuries, the catholic church hasn't forgive him because of his publications, particularly his "Disputation of Martin Luther on the
Power and Efficacy of Indulgences," later known as 'The Ninety-Five Theses'.

korel9: If they all spent their Sundays on nairaland like you they won't have made it this far


Wait


Is this FTC things? chikichaka I told you I will make it soon.
I guess you've ran out of mb

Sheenor: Aw abt mie.......

panachuku: all i knw is dat xtainity is a scam

Sobrit:
you proved you have just a smattering of the scripture. Go and do your home work before coming here to sound like u are intelligent.
For a guide, go study luke chapter 1. Rev 12: 1john 4:2-3
you will be glad u did

peppyluv02: Was he a catholic priest or you don't understand the topic?? Mtchewwww

frodobee: Is it limited to sciences? Can we add humanities?

Emmalot121: With this I ask you,Is Christ the son of God or Son of Mary.If all things were created in the presence of Christ,that must include Mary.If a sinless and holy man like John the Baptist could count himself unworthy to Baptise Jesus,how worthy was Mary.For Christ was born for the sinful and not the sinless and Mary was a mortal.And the Bible said for all have sinned and have fallen short of Glory of God.For Mary might have been sinless as at the birth of Christ but according to the words of John the Baptist,was not holy enough to give birth to the son of God,who was even before the creation of Adam.

ezugegere:

What does the Angel Gabriel mean when he said Mary was "full of grace" Can she be a sinner and still be full of grace? What does the Holy Spirit mean, when speaking through Elizabeth, called Mary the "most blessed amongst women", and Elizabeth went on to call her "mother of the Lord"? What does Mary mean when, speaking through the influence of the Holy Spirit said: "Hence forth, all ages will call me blessed"? Can you explain?

Emmalot121: I have asked this question and I will ask it again do the catholic belief Jesus is the child of Mary or Mary is the child of Jesus,if its the former,then its too bad.I also belief Mary is not as holy as to give birth to the one as Holy as the son of God,I would only tag her as the luckiest of women.

Emmalot121: I have asked this question and I will ask it again do the catholic belief Jesus is the child of Mary or Mary is the child of Jesus,if its the former,then its too bad.I also belief Mary is not as holy as to give birth to the one as Holy as the son of God,I would only tag her as the luckiest of women.

CzarChris: Younglady, Martin Luther was born 10 Nov. 1483 and ordained a Catholic priest in 1507 and he died on the 18 of Feb 1546, he was a monk, priest, theologian and professor. He is seen as the father of the Lutheran church and the Protestant Movement.
There's something called Google and Google is your friend girl, don't just use your phone/internet access for chating, pinging and facebooking.
Educate yourself! SMDH 4 u.

Emmalot121: I totally agree Mary is the EATHLY mother of Jesus but do you agree Jesus is the HEAVENLY father of Mary & its the heavenly part that matters to me my dear Brother.

Emmalot121: I have asked this question and I will ask it again do the catholic belief Jesus is the child of Mary or Mary is the child of Jesus,if its the former,then its too bad.I also belief Mary is not as holy as to give birth to the one as Holy as the son of God,I would only tag her as the luckiest of women.

uzolexis:

luke 1: 41-43 "as soon as Elizabeth heard Mary's voice she was filled with the holy spirit and the baby in her womb leaped for joy and she said-Blessed art thou amongst women and blessed is the fruit of your womb, who am I that the mother of my lord should come to me".........enough said

QAPHAYNE: 3) THOMAS AQUINAS: Atheists will definitely know this guy, this guy defied his family to join the DOMINICAN ORDER his SUMMA THEOLOGICA is still used in the seminary till date. He is the PATRON SAINTS OF STUDENTS. his family once locked him in a tower, sent in a prostitute just to prevent him from being a priest

QAPHAYNE: 4) NICHOLAS COPERNICUS : There is some doubt as to whether Copernicus
eventually became a priest as we only have evidence
that he took minor orders (the first stages of the
priesthood) but his fame, and the possibility that he was
ultimately ordained – make him a worthwhile addition.

He pointed the fact that the sun not the earth was the centre of solar system, he delayed publication of his book for fear of persecution for a guy who had no bachelors degree, lost his parents at 10 the father of modern astronomy deserves a mention here.