Gamine:

So she Sues them to Court

Whats the "Investigation" for?

are you being facetious or do you not know the meaning of the word?

It needs to be investigated to see WHY it happened - establishing guilt or innocence is not the end of the matter - the deeper causes need to be probed to prevent a recurrence, a court case will not address that.

lol.

its so funny, investigation committees that will carry their own ghana must go , Nigeria my Nigeria

A Court Case will resolve it.

You people abroad, its funny how you think you know so much about Nigeria, chei!

@Congo,

You no well

@ Gamine

You are very correct----------the Actual act was exergerated--------the words SEVERELY BEATENhas no place in that video clip----------imagine the victim is a male cab driver for example you for see real Brutality Boot kicking ,military Belt flinging especially the mopols, aggressive man handling!! those kind of cases happen every minute in Nigeria so get your camera ready the next tim e and expose those them!! As per this one-----------it should be Discourage and condemned---in totality as this is physical Assualt --------actionable in law and by all means she can seek justice-----but let us not add or subtract from the actual fact!!


If what is being done every day as per real brutality is exposed----------then you guys will give severely beaten another definition!!      JUSTICE MUST OF COURSE PREVAIL!!    www.justicenigeria.com

chessguru:

@ Gamine

You are very correct----------the Actual act was exergerated--------the words SEVERELY BEATEN[b][/b] has no place in that video clip----------imagine the victim is a male cab driver for example you for see real Brutality Boot kicking ,military Belt flinging especially the mopols, aggressive man handling!! those kind of cases happen every minute in Nigeria so get your camera ready the next tim e and expose those them!! As per this one-----------it should be Discourage and condemned---in totality as this is physical Assualt --------actionable in law and by all means she can seek justice-----but let us not add or subtract from the actual fact!!


If what is being done every day as per real brutality is exposed----------then you guys will give severely beaten another definition!! JUSTICE MUST OF COURSE PREVAIL!! www.justicenigeria.com

What was exaggerated in that video clip? The fact a lady was horsewhipped? The fact that she was dragged on the streets like a stubborn goat to be slaughtered? The fact she was stripped of her blouse in broad daylight, all that was exaggerated?

How do you people even reason sef? What is your definition of severely beaten? Beaten to a state of stupor or coma?

How do you people even reason sef? What is your definition of severely beaten? Beaten to a state of stupor or coma? Huh

things begin to seem normal when you spend many years in the animal kingdom. even rodney king feels bad for this woman

I am now very sure this is a country f Lunatics!!!!

All of you trying to downplay the act would have something like that very soon happening to your mother, wife or sister in the public.

Can i say more about Ogboraph? His Grammar says everything about him

you guys don't knw that a lady can always be use to make an atack surcesful this could be[b] a plan work by[/b] the lady and cameraman and some group of hungry people looking for money,   
imagine one of her friend say that the "case is in file 4 $100m but that is not to say we should be[b] rejoycing"[/b] this was her statement.
The cameraman or lady was set not to give out t[b]he insident before [/b]the brutality and i believe that scene would not ve lasted up to 20minues; how come some one in his office is ready for the action. they must ve been monitoring the R.Admirals movement haha Grin Cheesy haa hahaa Grin Grin Oya let all the landlubers in the house trow abuse am waiting
LandLUBERS REPLY

SO these are the types of illiterates and low lives in the Nigerian military,

This Ogboraph sounds like the product of a cheap drunk Bleep between a deranged gorrilla and a $2 prostitute at the Obalende cemetery

@Gamine

I am seriously beginning to doubt the authenticity and/or use of your 'COVENANT UNIVERSITY DEGREE'.

@Topic

Nobody deserves to be harassed or assaulted by anyone else, uniformed or not. It is such a shame that Nigerians are subjected to this kind of treatment everyday everywhere in Nigeria. Ms Okere is lucky that her father is a 'somebody'. I pity others who don't have anyone to speak out on their behalf.

I do hope this brings about the abolition of such treatment in Nigeria.

God help us!

L+G,
I have personally observed that identity crisis is a multi-dimensional issue that in one form, makes people to seek attention even when the attention they seek, brings them to disrepute. Speaking of a person who falls into this category, Gamine is one.
Gamine has a general pattern of reasoning in her posts "Go in the opposite direction of the general view of the posters and create controversy so that a lot of attention will be directed to you. Even if it means saying that Obama ia a white man born in England!"
You can agree with me that someone who argues with the most irritating and pointless views in not worth the time and attention. Let us forget about people who trade their dignity and sensibility for such derogatory attention.
Concerning the Uzoma Okere issue, i wish to inform you all that all things being favorable, the RA may end up in prison.

If the Police Officers who beat up Rodney King were sentenced to 30 months in jail, I don't see why we should be suing just for the RA to be sacked. Remember, Rodney King was drunk and over-speeding. He was guilty of a civil offense. Uzo was not in anyway found disobeying the law.
Read This in detail
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodney_King
Gamine, are you interested in liberating nigerians from the tenacious shackles of lawlessness? I really don't think.

Why should Madmiral Aro be sacked? He deserves to go to Jail and be stripped naked in the market and flogged in the public glare

Pataki:

What was exaggerated in that video clip? The fact a lady was horsewhipped? The fact that she was dragged on the streets like a stubborn goat to be slaughtered? The fact she was stripped of her blouse in broad daylight, all that was exaggerated?

How do you people even reason sef? What is your definition of severely beaten? Beaten to a state of stupor or coma?

MIND YOU----I ONLY POINTED TO THE WORDS SEVERELY BEATEN nothing more------and that was not to water down the act-----i totally condemn it------


It is not in my style to Insult peoples way of reasoning even if i do not agree with them-------------------we are more often driven by our perception of reality and not reality itself--------------i did not actually see the horse whip you mentioned------------the fact that we differ on the use of the word severely beaten should not destroy the fact that we both agree that this is an act of physical assault which is actionable in law and drastic action should be taken not only in this instant but in actual severe instances which i consider BRUTAL where boots and metal belt is used on a daily basis on the street(if you see actual brutality i wonder the word you will coin for it)!!

In law even if the woman was harrassed and not even touched it is assualt if it creates fear/apprehension------it will still be actionable in court-------even if they did not touch her------but on the use of the words SEVERELY BEATEN i disagree in the light of what goes on everyday in Nigeria------and this does not call for insults----------the vidoe speaks for itsself------RES ISPA   the conclusion remains the same even if the magnitude of ur premises /choice of words is different-----------i think you will understand this better if you understand the factors courts consider to arrive at their decision-------it is shamefull in the sense that it is undignfying (blouse removed) subjecting her to ridicule and contempt in the public full glare but the quantum of liabilIYy wont rest on 'severeLy beaten'--------there are better words to use------and we will still arrive at the same conclusion------but i love saying it as it is!! ----------if beaten to coma liability will increase------THE ACT OF INJUSTICE MUST BE RESISTED  INVESTIGATED AND PROSECUTE BUT EMOTION REALLY HAS NO PLACE IN LAW!!

@seyibrown
HER DEGREE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS----------THANKS!! no need for the verbal assault------------even if her opinion is 'dumb' --------we need not i guess in this case it was not what said but how said---------just disagree with her----simple!!

it seems the worse nigerians are uniformed officers. but he(arogundade) shouldn't worry as long as he will retire from office one day. when d white uniform, bodyguads and escorts are  no longer available, a mad man will harrass him on the street. i doubt if he has a mother, wife or even daughters

please who has the video, i have not seen it.

Why una dey worry Gamine nw? She has a right to her views. Ogboraph, Heads and Megadeath should also be allowed to voice their take on the issue without being so insulted and abused. Tolerance is the problem in this country. Arogundade erred because he was intolerant. We d people and judges are also guilty of same charge battering others because their views differ from ours. Remember 'ikan ti o ba wun anybodi ni won le fenu won so'.

It is also amazing that someone would proffer mob justice towards Layo Arogundade. What makes such a person different from the bodydogs that beat  up Uzoma? People have said many things without checking themselves or purging themselves first. How many of us would be in Aro's exalted position and would willingly drop all the farce, charade, pomp and paraphernalia associated with the position?

We all claim we are equals. Yes all humans were made equal by God and before the law too we are all equals. But in achievements we differ. There must be hierachy and stratification. Some will be highly placed than the others. Some are to be more respected than the others. The bodydogs, ratings or rantings attached to Madmiral Aro have a head just like their oga but unfortunately the assignments differ. That is why the bible said 'study to show thyself approved'. Education is key to attain an enviable height in all societies.

Some sensitive positions must come with a high level of security because of possible assasination attempts. Nigeria is still a pretty unsafe country. Sincerely I have no bias against them blaring their useless siren nor do I have issues with them moving in a motor train.

This saga calls for sober reflection within our nuclear units, that is homes, work and office. How do we treat our subordinates? How do we treat our househelps, stewards, drivers, gardeners etc? Let us all for once leave Aro to his problem, he has entered d shit big time. Lady Uzoma is lucky at least her Pa is a big boi she has sued for damages(if she wins will be settled with tax payers money). Thus their own case is getting at par. Who will advocate for Rasheed the driver? who will advocate for Luku the steward? Will Fashola raise an eyebrow for Ifabunmi the daily battered housegal? Would this case bring victory for the innocent danfo driver and okada men who get daily bashing and sometimes pass away leaving widows and children behind? Or is it really a war between the 'Rich'. Irrespective of the answers to my questions, we have lessons to learn, not just the navy nor military but the entire Nigerian populace. This is what can bring the much desired change to our polity.

Fear cannot be erased until poverty is reduced to the minimum. Crime would reduce drastically and the unjust treatment meted out daily on our roads will reduce because the bullion vans will drive with more caution and less aggression. The supposed leaders would have no excuse to make noise with sirens and jump traffic. More choices would be made by young men as regards jobs.

In conclusion the lady too might have insulted the big Oga which in our tradition is wrong because we were taught to respect our leaders and elders but the Oga erred when he was not wise enough to know that his position comes with enough discipline to tolerate all sorts of people. A little more patience would have saved him from this mess. Also if he had stepped out of his seat and cautioned his boys to stop the battering on the lady and at least had a word with her he would have been partially exonerated or absolved from the wrongdoings.

Please do not miss understand my views, all I am saying is Arogundade is guilty more guilty than his thugs but most of us are as culpable and blameworthy as he is.

unfortunately, nobody fights for no one in this country CAVE of ours.

MY ADVICE TO ALL: AVOID ANY MILITARY PERSONEL, especially the soldiers because God may not deliver you that day. this is not the first time this is happening and it wont be the last because NOTHING is ever done about it, even if the lady had died nothing would have happened.

zheroes:

unfortunately, nobody fights for no one in this country CAVE of ours.

MY ADVICE TO ALL: AVOID ANY MILITARY PERSONEL, especially the soldiers because God may not deliver you that day. this is not the first time this is happening and it wont be the last because NOTHING is ever done about it, even if the lady had died nothing would have happened.

True talk man. Best of the best advice.

Pls whats the link to the video? It will be good to archive it

Yeye Nigerians!

On Sunday that fool called Arogundade will take his bible to church, clap his hands and sing praises. He'll sit in front with white agbada and everybody will start speaking in tongues! Then, they'll shake hands and give brotherly and sisterly hugs. When he leaves the church, he'll turn back to monster he really is!

When will all the church attendance in Nigeria start translating into humane actions in a lawless land?

Nigeria, a land of infinite ironies!

Haha

All my Shrinks

yepa!

Investigation ko

investigating ni

They should carry the people to court shap shap, abi them no know road

Someone i know, well not directly was killed in another country

numerous attempts to get the FG to Investigate proved futile

now because. . .

infact eh! Nigeria, my heart BLEEDS!

aceman:

please whats the link to the video? It will be good to archive it

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-134234



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtAQ0PRPQ8I

I wonder why some people are afriad of justice when they have committed blonder.
@ Head
I have critically gone through the video over and over again, and if you watch clearly, those men were slapping the lady and were trying to force her into their van, when she manage to be off them, they dragged her on the floor, the man that pulled her dress initially held her shirt by the neck -as if she was a thief - and then pulled her towards the van. As he was on that, another man came and pulled her by her skirt- as if she was a bus conductor, (They both pulled her simultaneously),She was completely stripped off her shirt delibrately if you watch the video careful.
As she was trying to put on the shirt back and was also trying to  walk away from them and from the van - as if she was going somewhere (probably to her car), they held her again and kept forcing her again towards the van.

You know why i have to go through this with you, becos it is obvious you are blind or you dont see images real well.

That camera man wasnt a set-up, if you notice, he wasnt even steady with the camera, and he didnt show us the part where the girl blocked the road, so he was only caught in the act as at the time of the event.

Please, people should stop supporting bad thing, what is wrong is wrong. What was done was babaric and I pray that justice will be done and seen through to the end.

Chei Chei Chei

I have just seen the video for the first time. Unbelievable, unacceptable, unimaginable, unthinkable. That young woman was just too helpless. Dragged and pulled by those things called humans. In short I am visibly shaken by that short clip. Kilode, kilolefa? Haba who said she pulled off her shirt willingly? That is untrue. They exposed her unclothedness. That alone is highly condemnable coupled with the fact that she was slapped and humilated too. Harry Arogundade must pay for this. I can imagine if she was my sister or wife.

Please there is no such thing as defence for those responsible for this crime. The world demands an open apology. No amount paid as damages can erase this ugly stain and incident from our image. Shameless men on a poor girl. D girl be like SU self. Long skirt and blouse.

chei chei chei

[size=18pt]After being stripped naked and dehumanised, "apology to me won’t do" . . . . . . Uzoma Okere[/size]

By Eni Akinsola
Sat, 08 Nov 2008
City Flames

She is a graduate of French Language from the Ahmadu Bello University. Her father is a retired military officer. She is slightly built and could not have been anybody's troublemaker. But, Uzoma Okere was last Monday, caught in the web of naval men in the convoy of Rear Admiral Harry Arogundade. She was bruised, battered and dragged. Now her face is on CNN and Nigerians are asking that justice be done. The young lady spoke with Eni Akinsola in her Crystal Estate home in Lagos.

What really happened on that day?

I left the office not far from Muri Okunola Street on the Island at about 5.15pm after work on Monday. There was so much traffic, about four lanes and we were just moving. At some point, we heard sirens in the background.

I told my colleagues to collapse the side mirror on the owner side and I did same to the one on mine, conscious of the approaching siren blaring vehicle.

Not too long after, I actually heard the siren directly behind me. Then I saw a Peugeot 406 pass. I saw two stars on the number plate and surmised that the occupant could be a Rear Admiral. Then I saw some naval ratings directing the traffic. Suddenly, one of them asked me to stop, and I gesticulated with my hand that I was going this way.

The next thing I knew was that he started whipping me. I was still in the car. He whipped me the first time, whipped me the second time. That was when I made to come out. He pulled me out and started hitting me. After he continuously hit me, I attempted to hold the whip so that I could put an end to the punishment. Then his colleagues came out, there were about four of them, and they started hitting me.

One of them was insisting, "handcuff her, handcuff her." The men that were initially hitting me had no epaulette to show their rank. The one who came with the handcuff was of rank, though that I did not find out.

You'll see that there are some bruises on my arms, my back and chest (showing marks and bruises). Seeing what I was going through, one of my colleagues attempted to plead with them to calm down. One of them turned round and used the butt of his gun to hit him on his head, several times.

There were five of us in the car and they were going to beat all of us, including two pregnant women and one other lady. As they were pulling me, I was shouting "leave me alone." They tugged ate my shirt and ripped all the buttons off. Yet they kept on hitting me. They dragged me so much that I also had bruises on my leg because I was not wearing shoes when all this was happening. They dragged me from Muri Okunola into a building down the street. (About 6 blocks away)

I learnt that the building is a Guest House owned by a Retired high ranking officer. As they were dragging me, I cried out to the other girl with us; "call my father." After she called, my father now called me, and asked me what happened. I told him they beat me up, they tore my shirt. What did I do? So the man spoke with my father. He identified himself as Rear Admiral Arogundade and that he knew my father at the Nigerian Military School. He claimed that my father was in final year when he was in year 1 or something like that.

I said I didn't do anything wrong, but he wondered that I was still insisting that I didn't do anything wrong, as if I ought to accept guilt. I wasn't even on the road; everybody that witnessed the incidence could see that my car was going out of the road while they were going straight ahead. So, I couldn't understand why anybody could hit me because it wasn't that I was blocking their way. The Rear Admiral at this point said I was lucky they didn't kill me.

I said they couldn't have killed me, because this is democratic setting. They couldn't have done it because there were so many people. He also said I didn't have any right to try to fight a military man. I replied that they beat me up and not that I fought them.

He then asked his boys to give me a shirt in place of what they tore. I was on my way out of the premises when I saw that the crowd had gathered from the point of the crisis. I told them that the man did not apologise when asked by the people. The crowd were ready to prevent them from leaving without an apology but with their guns and whips they prevailed and left. I went to the hospital and was treated with my colleague who was beaten, Abdulazeez Abdulahi.

Your father is a retired military person; you probably would have had a taste of military brutality before.

Yes, there was this day I have this experience on Five Cowries Bridge. Sometimes, I come in through Ikoyi. It was a similar accident but this one, I wasn't trying to avoid them, I just kept on moving. So at some point, one of them parked and was coming out to meet me. The "Oga" in the car asked him to forget about it. That one was a three-star general, he's in the army, and he went on.

Is it because you are the daughter of a military person that you are that bold as to assert your right?

I don't know; all I know is that it's the kind of person I am. Even if they are military, I don't like to see things like that. I remember that last week, very early in the morning before seven, I was on my way to buy fuel when we saw a couple of metres from my office, some policeman dragging a man on an Okada. They might have hurt him badly and nobody will even know about it. So, it's not about the military set up because "am not a barrack girl. I never lived in the barracks." It is not that I had that orientation in the military. I just believe it's wrong, it's wrong.

Were you fighting when they were hitting you?

Not at all! I was shouting what did I do wrong? That was all I was saying, I didn't do anything wrong. They were saying, it doesn't matter who my father is. They kept asking if I knew what it is to be a Rear Admiral.

What would you have done if after beating you, the man apologised?

If he had said sorry immediately it happened, it would have ended there and then. Because at least at some point he said am old enough to be his daughter. But I wondered, if I were his daughter, would he have allowed anybody to treat me that way whatever the case may be? If he had said; "oh sorry, can we take you to the hospital, sorry about that." That would have been it. That was what everybody expected him to do. If he had done that yesterday by now it will be history. I mean, the media would probably not have heard of it. His telling me he is sorry will not be good enough now. He had to go to the print, the electronic media, and come out and say he's sorry.

Sadly today again on my way from the hospital, I had another experience because this one, which shocked me. They were soldiers and this one was a one-star general, Brigadier General driving like the masters of the road. My colleague was like I should just keep calm and allow them to pass. So, it's not just about me and him now, it's about the general ideology, military men actually have to stop brutalizing people, whether it's the child of someone who's in the military or not, it is wrong.

So, if he apologises, you won't go to court?

Yes, but the kind of person I saw would not do that. If he couldn't apologize to me when it was just the two of us, he probably would not now that the whole world knows about it. But I want him to come out to apologize in public. Though I am considering suggestions to sue for damages, my feeling is that whatever comes as damages will be blood money as far as I am concerned, and it doesn't do anything for me. It's not that am hungry or that money is going to do wonder. If he can come to the pages of newspapers and apologize, we might allow it to go without going to court. (She is now in court after the navy continued with justifying their position)

Now that he's calling your father don't you think it's a way of say "I am sorry"?

He's calling my father, he's not calling me

So if he calls your father and apologizes to your father, and your father says look, Uzoma, let it pass,

You know immediately after it happened he spoke to my father. My father called me and said it is okay, go. I was actually going but I saw that there was no remorse and then they have been justifying their brutality. Now, it is out of my hand. If he tells me sorry, what about the people 3who were traumatised, those who helped alert the press and those who saw the way they refused to owe up. Those who were ready to get shot at to prove a point? What about my colleagues? There were two pregnant ladies. One, who is about 7 or 8 months pregnant couldn't go home after the whole accident. She was in shock. As at the time I went to the office the next day, she hadn't come in. I don't think she would have been able to come in. What if she had gone into premature labour?

Source: http://www.modernghana.com/news2/3273/4/after-being-stripped-naked-and-dehumanised-apology.html

@ Chessguru,

Semantics is a problem. From severely beaten to brutality, all just to make a point? I still insist what was exaggerated in that video clip?

Who said Harry Arogundade wasnt there when his boys were beating the girl , he was somewhere watching. Foolish man. May his daughters recieve the same turture that Okere recieved.

If not that Okere was a lady, he would have been shot or beaten to coma.

He couldnt even say sorry, i hope with the disgrace he is recieving now, he will learn to say sorry in shame, idiot.

everything in this country is all about "power play", this issue has gotten this far because of who her father is, can an okada rider get such attention?

who knows if her ex -military father once treated someone like this? it might just be pay back time? justice in this country shouldnt be limited to those of the elite class.

Livvvvy:


If not that Okere was a lady, he would have been shot or beaten to coma.

Are you a mind reader? Exactly what I was thinking before logging on to the forum. I must say that I have been psychologically traumatised by this lady's ordeal. I wonder what would have happened if she were to be a man on that day, it may have become an "accidental discharge" case. I struggle very hard in my heart not to curse the people involved in this case.

My uncle is one of the top guns in Nigerian Navy, but I'm sure he will never allow that to happen in his convoy. He's too much a gentle man and I sometimes wonder how he came to be a military man. This "Arogunyawere" man and his mentally deranged imbeciles should face the music .

Just to help all understand the kind of legal system obtainable in nigeria, the lady in question said she might forget legal action if the admiral apologises, does that make any sense? the issue isnt about her or the admiral, its about the barbaric act, see why i say there are no laws cos they are not adhered to. tomorrow it will repeat itself because there are no penalties, no deterrants. once again AVOID MILITARY MEN.

Very sad indeed.

But d irony in this is dat this is just one case out so many perpetrated by this scoundrels in uniform everyday in this country. And they always go scot free.

Even if u raise so much dust that they decide 2 do smthing abt it. they will claim dat the perpetrators can only be tried in a military court which ofcourse they will say will be a secret trial_{( no press, or any kind of publicity).} When it gets 2 dat stage they will delay until when the heat has cooled off, they will let them go.

But we should not be discouraged lets make all d noise we can mayb one day it will 2 loud dat they cant ignore it even if they tried.

i have had several encounters with armed robbers that are more lenient than these animals.

The lady was shown on NTA last night with HE Gov. Fashola being apologized to by His Excellency not on behalf of 'Mad Miral Arogundade' ooooooooo.

na this kind men wey dey loose guard wey militants suppose push overboard. this guys really messed up for guys on uniform. what a shame. if na my sister,,,,,,,,,,,,,third world war go start be that,

we only heard this one cos her papa dey house of assemblyand na rtd colonel. cos this kind of stuff happens everyday on every corner of our miserable country. with uniformed men doing the exact opposite of what they shld do. oppress the same people they are suppose to protect. i see it happen everyday. and i sincerely think the police,army and navy need to be taught what their duties are. they dont seem to know.

and for God's sake,can our law makers do something about the blarring of sirens for no just cause abeg!its embarrasing, and so annoying.we are not in a state of war,and besides why cant they also go thru the same traffic like everybody else, thats where the work shld start from, making them know they are not different from the civilians, and everyone can be in the force if they want to, its a matter of choice.