musKeeto:

Lolest.

Lolest and Lolest again.



Good thing I learnt about reverse psychology on time.


#OkBye

MizMyColi:


Excuse me, did you read the text completely, how could a small cord, used to shoo away things cause such destruction of lives and property. FYI, imo, I can only imagine what Jesus' presence alone in his day must have caused, seeing as he was a celebrity of sorts. These are mere speculations, things you so desperately wanna believe about Jesus.
Meanwhile, you must have let yourself get influenced by that JW book of bible stories, it's okay, we all did

No, even if the devil had nothing in him, how much more the pharisees, trust me, if they had other accusations, no matter how small, they'd bring it up, remember the jewish officials actually went as far as cajoling people to testify against him?

They found nothing on him o jare my brother.
Infact if that issue at the temple was such a fuss as you're making it seem now, the officials would have arrested him on the count that he posed a threat to human lives and infrastructure, in addition to that high handed claim, don't you think?

I think 2nd Corinthians pretty much defines love for me. Everything I might say is embedded in that chapter.

Wanna read?

4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away.

Now if the bible claims that God is love and yet attributes those killings and genocide to him, isn't there an obvious contradiction?

Could it be that the jewish writers must have confused the cosmic rebel, satan as God left hand, his minister of wrath?


These are things I'm not so sure of, because I wasn't there.
That's why I rarely talk about them.

Don't confuse my silence for stewpidity and ignorance.

I chose a path and I'm happy on that path, what anyone thinks of me is their business. I owe no man zilch in that regard, it is my journey.
What I will not tolerate is being talked to in a denigrative manner because of my stand - that life and love is my religion.

Kay17:


And what are the rewards of love?

Rewards?

Jeez, are you for real?

Love in itself is a reward, imo.
Especially seeing as humans aren't inclined "to love"


In other news, I see you dodged a very important question........
I came bare.
I bared my mind as to what I believe and even unknowingly retrogressed to defending a religion/system I've lost confidence in.


You could tell me yours and we'd keep conversing or...........

LoL.

MizMyColi:
Phew Phew!!!

Now that everyone has gone to sleep, I should ramble a bit.

I am mizmycoli; life and love my religion.

My name is Adannaya; I am my Father's Daughter.

I've tried to fit in somewhere, belong, but I don't actually. I haven't tried satanism tho'.......won't.

I still got scales of religion in me, a huge chunk's falling off though.

Somehow, a bible that made so much sense 1 year ago now has a lot of contradictions.

At this phase, a lot of themes seem confusing, especially scriptures, the same ones I used to hold dear and defend, albeit blindly..........

Right now, I don't believe in the God of religion(s) anymore. I just know that there's a creator who's interested in those he created.

This I have seen evidenced in my life many times.
Okay, now I'm saying this at the risk of sounding foolish, even to self.

Lolest

For some strange reason, I'm smiling and grinning right now..........

Owh, I gerrit now.

I've just been reminded of what matters most.

While I may never be totally cured of religion in this age, I've dedicated my life, my being, to living a life filled with Love, filled with compassion, I could never go wrong towing that path.

Sounds lofty and too good to be true, ey?

Well, I'm already on the path......I intend to get there.

pickabeau1:


which stones
why will u be looking for stones on a thread supposed to be about 'grace' and 'love'

I like the angle u brought in about the Greek philosopher - Heraclitus

Since u seem to be more willing to give straight answers rather than unsure postulations,, i will engage u

- Did he also try to bridge theism and atheism

AirborneLacer:


Now look around you, aren't you seeing the stones being hurled?

No one in this effing section understands what Grace or Love is. Just bunch of deluded scientology-esque minority cabal of rabids and fanatical semi-illiterates who attack, ridicule and denigrate anyone who has the chutzpah to question their weak chain of thoughts.

Heraclitus concept is philosophical and also scientific. It simply defines a situation which the existence or identity of a thing (or even situation) depends on the co-existence of at least two conditions which are opposite to each other, yet dependent on each other.

He doesn't have to bridge Atheism and Theism, common sense should be explaining few things to you at this stage.

Even when we all present contradicting views about God, Life, Humanity etc, we still share something(s) in common, don't we?

Something has got to link us up, something has to over-look our differences and bind us together. It's that one thing MizmyColi has tagged 'Grace'.

So what are you really on about?

musKeeto:
This is silly. Neither upward nor downwards exist. They are just points of references, just like latitude and longitude. My upward could be your downwards.

Her response to my question is true cowardice. Jesus' violent display at the synagogue makes nonsense of her OP. Rather than tackle it....

AirborneLacer:


Neither upwards nor downwards exist?

Doofus what are you gonna tell me next? That ascent and descent doesn't exist as well?

According to Heraclitus, everything is in constant flux, and the earlier you understand this, the better for you.

MrPresident1:


You have started your journey to the discovery of God, remain sincere and pursue peace and love with men and beast, in time when He affirms you, He will show Himself to you.

You are on the right path. It will not be an easy journey, but if you are willing, He will help you, He is the one who is calling you to Himself, afterall.

LoL, Thanks.

Thank you.
Those are my thoughts exactly.


Okay, I should share this with you.
Something just happened not quite long ago.

I left the office a bit late cos I had to finish dead lined stuffs.
Getting buses at night in this part of the world is something else.

I'd actually struggled to entered one, the guy was still in motion and I hopped in (I'm not so Aje-butter-ish afterall )

In the process, the upper part of my head collided with the upper part of the door in such a way that my neck bone and head was really affected.

Other people, were in the bus and didn't really care, I put my head down and was almost at the point of tears, then he touched me slightly and showed so much concern, so much.
He be like:
Are you okay? Sick? Did you hit your head somewhere? Do I get down and get you cold water, do you have a headache? Stress in this country is too much.....Sorry ehhnnn.


My dear, as I bent my head there, tears flowed freely.
I was kinda awed at such kindness and grace.

I remember being that way and even more to total strangers and people be looking at me like - Huh?!
Now I understand how they must have felt.

I was amazed today. I've not been treated with such kindness by a Total Stranger in recent times.

Oops, I didn't just bore you, did I?

Thanks for listening/reading

pickabeau1:



Lol or lolest as mzcoli will say
What's all the Scientology u talking about?

I asked u since u turned yourself to the shield on wat the link between coli n Heraclitus
Suddenly its that no one has common sense..lol

Aside u...?

Well you have brought another dimension
Grace

What is this grace?

arimahoseloka:
what manner of talk is this? u dare insult God? if u don't believe in something do you have to talk against it in this manner?

musKeeto:

You are boring. Move along.

AirborneLacer:


Mate get yourself a dictionary or better still shut your gob.

I don't have to keep regurgitating lines that have been served to you lot by Coli, hence I'd advice you make use of common sense.

I brought Heraclitus into the fray, cos he was someone that believed that opposites can be united. Something most of the nitwits here wouldn't just agree to.

AirborneLacer:


Really?

Your miseducation is the reason why you'd spew rëtarded lines such as ''Neither upwards and downside exists''

You should go home, find a long rope and a strong beam to tie it to.

The community that sponsored your formal education would be regretting their decision by now.

ifeness:
OP is nothing but a confussed ex christian.

pickabeau1:


Dude....i see the grace you brought to the discussion
Words like nitwit and common sense

Indeed

Guess you are the sinn fein while she's the nice front

Enjoy

musKeeto:

Like I said, you are boring. But I hear puppies love to wag their tails to get attention. Keep wagging.

MizMyColi:



Rewards?

Jeez, are you for real?

Love in itself is a reward, imo.
Especially seeing as humans aren't inclined "to love"


In other news, I see you dodged a very important question........
I came bare.
I bared my mind as to what I believe and even unknowingly retrogressed to defending a religion/system I've lost confidence in.


You could tell me yours and we'd keep conversing or...........

LoL.

AirborneLacer:




Who's playing the victim now? Same dude that've been calling a fellow human a coward all day?

I hate it when people push for a fight, only to play the victim when they see one.

Effing section!

AirborneLacer:




Who's playing the victim now? Same dude that've been calling a fellow human a coward all day?

I hate it when people push for a fight, only to play the victim when they see one.

Effing section!

pickabeau1:


Victim of what
You r d one looking for people for people to fight online with coli happy for the help

You are the one insulting and still calling others victims.... Have fun...

Since she 'eschews' violence and preaches grace while applaudding the carnage u so love....you can continue doing the honours
....
More grace to both of you

musKeeto:


More grace to them. Less grace to us. Grace ko Comfort ni.

MizMyColi:
Phew Phew!!!

Now that everyone has gone to sleep, I should ramble a bit.

I am mizmycoli; life and love my religion.

My name is Adannaya; I am my Father's Daughter.

I've tried to fit in somewhere, belong, but I don't actually. I haven't tried satanism tho'.......won't.

I still got scales of religion in me, a huge chunk's falling off though.

Somehow, a bible that made so much sense 1 year ago now has a lot of contradictions.

At this phase, a lot of themes seem confusing, especially scriptures, the same ones I used to hold dear and defend, albeit blindly..........

Right now, I don't believe in the God of religion(s) anymore. I just know that there's a creator who's interested in those he created.

This I have seen evidenced in my life many times.
Okay, now I'm saying this at the risk of sounding foolish, even to self.

Lolest

For some strange reason, I'm smiling and grinning right now..........

Owh, I gerrit now.

I've just been reminded of what matters most.

While I may never be totally cured of religion in this age, I've dedicated my life, my being, to living a life filled with Love, filled with compassion, I could never go wrong towing that path.

Sounds lofty and too good to be true, ey?

Well, I'm already on the path......I intend to get there.

Kay17:


I said I wasn't a Christian, I can easily be identified as an atheist. I don't like labels either, they are too restrictive and suffocating. Hope you realize that the fact you 'love' others, does not imply they 'love' you in return. Sometimes people 'love' in order to be 'loved'. i'm afraid and wary of love because it is born and derives its joys from the instinct to possess.

LoL

Thanks for coming out straight.

Well, you see, while it is hard o, I try not to expect love when loving.

I think it's perfectly normal to love and expect to be loved in return, there's really nothing to be ashamed about in that. Love anyway...............

But then like C.S Lewis said, "If I find in myself desires which cannot be fulfilled/found in this world, the only logical explanation is that I'm made for another world.

I subscribe to the story of Jesus of the bible........that kind of love where people are spitting at you and all you're doing is offering them forgiveness......taking their guilt upon yourself.......

Okay, I wasn't there when it all went down, but I kinda buy that idea..........whether it really happened or not.

I want to love people and animals and things in such a way that is out of this world.

I want to see myself operate from that level where, even when the whole world is jabbing and spitting on me, all I can bring myself to think of is -

"Forgiveness"
"Give Them Grace"

True, in our world today, love in its rawest form is more like wishful thinking.

But I believe, that we can.

I may not achieve that perfect love status in this age. I'll die trying to.




Okay, I'm really not sure why you're still conversing with me, especially seeing as I've made apparent my confusion and ignorance/fundamental misunderstanding, I was even accused of worshipping it.


So, please, forgive my asking, but, why are you still conversing with me?
Especially seeing as you clearly don't subscribe to my "lofty ideals"..........
Perchance, is ridiculing me and what I stand for part of your motive?

BananaBender:
@Muskeeto: Have you read the book zealot?

MizMyColi: you should take a look at that book.

MizMyColi:


LoL

Thanks for coming out straight.

Well, you see, while it is hard o, I try not to expect love when loving.

I think it's perfectly normal to love and expect to be loved in return, there's really nothing to be ashamed about in that. Love anyway...............

But then like C.S Lewis said, "If I find in myself desires which cannot be fulfilled/found in this world, the only logical explanation is that I'm made for another world.

I subscribe to the story of Jesus of the bible........that kind of love where people are spitting at you and all you're doing is offering them forgiveness......taking their guilt upon yourself.......

Okay, I wasn't there when it all went down, but I kinda buy that idea..........whether it really happened or not.

I want to love people and animals and things in such a way that is out of this world.

I want to see myself operate from that level where, even when the whole world is jabbing and spitting on me, all I can bring myself to think of is -

"Forgiveness"
"Give Them Grace"

True, in our world today, love in its rawest form is more like wishful thinking.

But I believe, that we can.

I may not achieve that perfect love status in this age. I'll die trying to.




Okay, I'm really not sure why you're still conversing with me, especially seeing as I've made apparent my confusion and ignorance/fundamental misunderstanding, I was even accused of worshipping it.


So, please, forgive my asking, but, why are you still conversing with me?
Especially seeing as you clearly don't subscribe to my "lofty ideals"..........
Perchance, is ridiculing me and what I stand for part of your motive?

chibwike:
miz, why dont you just go on break from all these religious stuff.....just get a little rest plz

musKeeto:

It is impossible. Wanderers keep walking until they find a place of rest. Mine was atheism.