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Re: African Militaries Strictly Discussions Thread. by Nobody: 11:20am On May 12, 2018 |
Covert1:These photos also fake?
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Re: African Militaries Strictly Discussions Thread. by Covert1: 11:29am On May 12, 2018 |
jln115: Yes. Training a unit to familiarize with an equipment you sold to them to be used in the north-east is not same thing as doing the fighting a credit which your own Barlow gave to the brave and gallant Nigerian unit who did the fighting. 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries Strictly Discussions Thread. by Nobody: 12:08pm On May 12, 2018 |
Covert1:Why the fvck are we still arguing about Russia? My point still stands If Germany didn't invade Russia they would've conquered Europe! Anyway at the start of Operation Barbarossa Germany in fact had no Tanks that could even rival the T34....and you want to tell me they didn't have an adequate defense industry? |
Re: African Militaries Strictly Discussions Thread. by Nobody: 12:10pm On May 12, 2018 |
Covert1:Barlow was not involved in any sale of vehicles o Nigeria he was there to train your soldiers as confirmed by your own military! |
Re: African Militaries Strictly Discussions Thread. by Patchesagain: 1:45pm On May 12, 2018 |
Covert1: This fvcking guy 1. Angola: South Africa never lost a battle, and acheived its strategic objectives: the prevention of large-scale terrorist incursions into Namibia, a buffer between Luanda and Namibia as well the the complete withdrawal of Cuban troops. 2. Bnagui: The enemy offered a cease fire and all mission objectives were met. How is that defeat? 3. The SANDF is the single largest contriubtor to the UN FIB, your "protection" allegations are your usual nonsense, kicked up to muddy the waters. Covert1: Yes, it is insantiy comparing experience to equipment and training. Much like comparing your military to ours. Covert1: MEND had no heavy weapons, was not a co-ordinated military force and, in any normal country, would have been dealt with by police. The only reason they got so big in the first place is sheer incompetance - exactly like Boko Haram 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries Strictly Discussions Thread. by Patchesagain: 1:46pm On May 12, 2018 |
Covert1: Lol this guy. Ok, tell us how nigeria would "strike" RSA. 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries Strictly Discussions Thread. by Patchesagain: 1:54pm On May 12, 2018 |
Covert1: Since we are talking military history lets talk about Nigeria's glorious history: Sierra Leone/Liberia: - completely unable to defeat rag tag militia armed with light weapons - got pushed back on multiple occasions - had to rely on local militia to do their fighting for them - spent more time looting and pillaging than actually acomplishing anything. After 10 years of Nigerian involvement, the USMC had to come in and stabilized the country in 3 months. Boko Haram: - unable to defeat rag tag militia armed with light weapons - run away so frequently and so constantly that you lose all your weapons to Boko Haram - boko haram is now a rat tag militia armed with heavy weapons, including Vickers MBT, T55 MBT, MT-LB's, Spartan MRAP's, D-30 feild guns, Shilka's and the like After 4 years of Nigerian involvement in the N.E, Chad had to come in and stabilize the region in 3 weeks. Wow - I see a trend! 1 Like
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Re: African Militaries Strictly Discussions Thread. by Covert1: 5:51pm On May 12, 2018 |
jln115: Well Germany did conquer Europe and did invade Russia in a war Hitler (must be specific hitler) believed he'd win due to his Wonder Weapons and blitzkrieg doctrine of war. Well he didn't cos of the reasons I've adduced. You must have read the wrong history book. Go and read again and you need time to understand it before you come back to me. |
Re: African Militaries Strictly Discussions Thread. by Covert1: 6:05pm On May 12, 2018 |
Patchesagain: How come Chad stabilized the region yet ended up under the command HQ in the heart of their own capital N'djamena of a Nigerian Combat General Leo Irabor in the MNJTF stabilizing the same region. An irony thanks to the fantasy of a kid called Patch on Nairaland. The history of all the junk you put up there are well chronicled and a million spins will change it. The Nigerian Military and it's ECOWAS partners through direct military interventions and military diplomacy brought peace and democracy to Liberia, Sierra Leone, Ivory Coast, Guinea Bissau, The Gambia, São Tomé and Principe, Burkina Faso, Guinea, Mali. And where would I stop is it The Congo, Biafra, Somalia, Chad, Togo, The Bakassi Peninsula, The Niger-delta, North-East Nigeria & The Lake Chad Islands and the list goes on and on and in all we have never lost a war or diplomatic initiative. Never! It goes our way. Always! Meanwhile the South African military while making noise at home has fled a war in the Central African Republic, abandoned a peacekeeping mission in the Sudan because it's soldiers were awed and shocked at the prospect of combat with terrorist militias, it's under UN protection in the DRC under the guise of peacekeeping (still not out of that one cos the killings goes on unabated), managed to import the Chinese Communist model of power transfer in Zimbabwe in a brazen day light coup because it lacked the military capability and wherewithal to install democracy next door, has left all SADC countries drifting with different forms of totalitarianism and the list goes on. Just shut your trap Patch elders are talking. 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries Strictly Discussions Thread. by Odunayaw(m): 6:19pm On May 12, 2018 |
jln115:This is a fib and you damn as well know it! WTF! |
Re: African Militaries Strictly Discussions Thread. by Odunayaw(m): 6:24pm On May 12, 2018 |
Patchesagain:This is bullshit! You've seen the geography of the Niger Delta? Come back when you understand it. Even the SAS had to be utilized in similar conflict elsewhere |
Re: African Militaries Strictly Discussions Thread. by Covert1: 6:27pm On May 12, 2018 |
jln115: Dude be specific in your language. Don't couch it and try to make it what it's not. Training is a general word. Training could be for making SA pap or whatnot but in this case it was for technical use and application of SA made equipment. That's a verified fact. |
Re: African Militaries Strictly Discussions Thread. by Patchesagain: 6:29pm On May 12, 2018 |
Covert1: "Shut your trap, the adults are talking" Oh, Augustine... the fact that you use my line tells me it left an impression on you when I used it. You spew paragraph after paragraph of nonsense. Fact is that South Africa fought the biggest and most complex war in Africa - and its veterans now form the leadership of the SANDF. Meanwhile Nigeria doesnt even have an air-to-air kill... The SANDF fought one of the hardest battles Africa has seen in Bangui - real Siege of Jadotville stuff - a battle that left the people of C.A.R so impressed they built a statute honoring the SANDF in their capital - and asked us to send their our training mission back! What is Nigeria's accomplishments? Getting saved by the British Army in Sierra Leone and the USMC in Liberia! Getting saved by South African mercenaries and Chadian foot-soliders in your own country! Augustine, this is all you have - this is all you want. Just empty, meaningless drivel and insults. No actual analysis or honesty - you actually said Nigeria has the capacity to strike RSA! What a god-awful waste of time. PS: We arent under the protection of MONUSCO - we are leading it 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries Strictly Discussions Thread. by Odunayaw(m): 6:30pm On May 12, 2018 |
Patchesagain:Look here! You're becoming exactly like the other guy peddling false realities. And stop the one sided nonsense "We never lost a battle" already |
Re: African Militaries Strictly Discussions Thread. by Patchesagain: 6:31pm On May 12, 2018 |
Odunayaw: Really? They had tanks, artillery and AA guns? Dude. Come on. They were nothing more than roving gangs of bandits. And you didnt even defeat them - you paid them to stop. Come now. Self-criticism and self-reflection are the only way one acheives self-improvement! 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries Strictly Discussions Thread. by Patchesagain: 6:32pm On May 12, 2018 |
Covert1: Training you how to fight. You want me to post the video of the 72 strike-whatever. Who operate in the South African style? Dude. Come on. |
Re: African Militaries Strictly Discussions Thread. by Patchesagain: 6:33pm On May 12, 2018 |
Odunayaw: In the entirety of the war in Angola we did not lose a single battle. This is a simple fact. See for yourself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_operations_of_the_South_African_Border_War 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries Strictly Discussions Thread. by Odunayaw(m): 6:35pm On May 12, 2018 |
Patchesagain:Except you had coffins while the Irish didn't. If I am to give exactly the dose of your poison I would say the French saved you in DRC - but that won't be a complete reality will it? Nawa o |
Re: African Militaries Strictly Discussions Thread. by Covert1: 6:35pm On May 12, 2018 |
Patchesagain: Again self delusion. Go and read about Tompolo and Camp 5. These are guys that were already invading nations and blackmailing presidents. It took a successful military invasion and capture of Camp 5 by Air, Land & Sea to bring them to the table for a wider peace under a federal government plan not the military. |
Re: African Militaries Strictly Discussions Thread. by Nobody: 6:38pm On May 12, 2018 |
Covert1:Its irrelevant if he believed he could have won or not the point is if he didn't invade Russia he would of won. Also at the start of operation barbarossa, Germany had nothing to match the t34 that is a fact |
Re: African Militaries Strictly Discussions Thread. by Odunayaw(m): 6:38pm On May 12, 2018 |
Patchesagain:They fucckin had AA guns. Don't gimme shit right now MEND & LTTE were cut from the same cloth. Better still please give me instances where you country fought in such terrains of the Niger Delta |
Re: African Militaries Strictly Discussions Thread. by Odunayaw(m): 6:40pm On May 12, 2018 |
Patchesagain:You forgot the part "one sided" Don't sweet talk me man, all these history are one sided |
Re: African Militaries Strictly Discussions Thread. by Patchesagain: 6:41pm On May 12, 2018 |
Odunayaw: "It doesnt count, you were too well prepared" lol, ok then. I guess the German blitz of France and the low-countries doesnt count either |
Re: African Militaries Strictly Discussions Thread. by Patchesagain: 6:42pm On May 12, 2018 |
Odunayaw: No, it wouldent. The French stayed in their airport through-out the battle. the rebels themselves offered a cease-fire. 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries Strictly Discussions Thread. by Nobody: 6:43pm On May 12, 2018 |
Odunayaw:Nigeria used South African mercenaries that's a fact mate!! Obviously we never sent our SF to fight BH hence I used the word "wanted to" |
Re: African Militaries Strictly Discussions Thread. by Odunayaw(m): 6:43pm On May 12, 2018 |
Patchesagain:From the references used to summarize the things on Wikipedia one can easily deduce the one sidedness of it. |
Re: African Militaries Strictly Discussions Thread. by Patchesagain: 6:44pm On May 12, 2018 |
Covert1: Ah, yes, the mighty battle for "Camp 5"... so huge that a wopping 5 militants died! |
Re: African Militaries Strictly Discussions Thread. by Patchesagain: 6:47pm On May 12, 2018 |
Odunayaw: You you say that there is vast conspiracy at play? The age-old alliance between the military and liberal academics strikes again! Dude, I hate to break it to you - but we dont feel the need to construct narratives. Infact, we tend to be hyper-critical... because thats how you learn how to do things better. Just go to Defenceweb and read the tone of the articles and comments, and then compare it to a place like beegeagles blog. South Africans are, generally speaking, critical and skeptical by nature. The operations, and their successes were widely documented - hundreds of photos of row after row of captured equipment. 1 Like
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Re: African Militaries Strictly Discussions Thread. by Nobody: 6:53pm On May 12, 2018 |
Covert1:it's funny since Nigeria has a whole array of SAn made vehicle yet you needed mercenaries to teach you how to drive a Reva but never needed training on the other SAn vehicles?? |
Re: African Militaries Strictly Discussions Thread. by Odunayaw(m): 6:53pm On May 12, 2018 |
jln115:Did I argue about mercs? no We never "wanted to" use your SF |
Re: African Militaries Strictly Discussions Thread. by Covert1: 6:55pm On May 12, 2018 |
jln115: It's relevant as he wouldn't have invaded Russia which was his main goal if he didn't think he would win. The Germans quickly came up with an answer for the T-34 and by the end of 1941 the Russians had lost over 2000+ T-34 Tanks. |
Re: African Militaries Strictly Discussions Thread. by Covert1: 6:57pm On May 12, 2018 |
jln115: For technical application of it's equipment bought and no SA forces had no capacity for the nature of fighting in the north-east. |
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