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Yet Another Unanswered Question On Creation for atheists/scientists by honourhim: 7:09am On Nov 23, 2014
Scientists and atheists do not believe the biblical account of creation yet they have failed woefully over the years to give us a superior account of creation. The big bang, evolution etc have not given us any concrete thing to believe. Since they ve failed over the years to provide a superior creation account to that of the bible, lets leave them to keep battling with that one and lets proceed to the next one and see what they have to offer.

We know the bible account of how the different languages/dialects of the world came to be so i dont need to go into it again. Now can the scientists/atheists provide us with their own account of how the various thousands of different languages/dialects across the world came to be?


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No insults pls. If you dont have anything reasonable to contribute you may read what others are contributing and go your way. Its not a must that you will say something. Lets keep the discussion free of insults of any kind pls.Thanks everyone.

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Re: Yet Another Unanswered Question On Creation for atheists/scientists by Inkredible(m): 7:13am On Nov 23, 2014
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Re: Yet Another Unanswered Question On Creation for atheists/scientists by honourhim: 10:52am On Nov 23, 2014
Inkredible:
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grin. Na answer be this or na space booking?
Re: Yet Another Unanswered Question On Creation for atheists/scientists by Inkredible(m): 10:59am On Nov 23, 2014
honourhim:


grin. Na answer be this or na space booking?
Ah been say make I brush, chop then come comment. But as u don ask. Make I reply.....
I book space!!!
Re: Yet Another Unanswered Question On Creation for atheists/scientists by honourhim: 4:38pm On Nov 23, 2014
Inkredible:

Ah been say make I brush, chop then come comment. But as u don ask. Make I reply.....
I book space!!!

grin Ok dear. Over 9 hours gone since i opened this thread yet no answer to my question from the atheists. I'm still waiting.

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Re: Yet Another Unanswered Question On Creation for atheists/scientists by Inkredible(m): 4:42pm On Nov 23, 2014
honourhim:


grin Ok dear. Over 9 hours gone since i opened this thread yet no answer to my question from the atheists. I'm still waiting.
grin grin grin
Guess they ain't gat any Logical explanation but am still waiting.
#opens my Diet coke/takes a sip# continues chewing my kpomo#

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Re: Yet Another Unanswered Question On Creation for atheists/scientists by honourhim: 4:56pm On Nov 23, 2014
Inkredible:

grin grin grin
Guess they ain't gat any Logical explanation but am still waiting.
#opens my Diet coke/takes a sip# continues chewing my kpomo#


grin yeah its likely they are still in the kitchen cooking up the lies that they will tell as usual in support of their no-God crap which they use in deceiving small boys and girls here..

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Re: Yet Another Unanswered Question On Creation for atheists/scientists by honourhim: 7:47pm On Nov 23, 2014
Over twelve hours now and still counting, yet no answers from the atheists.

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Re: Yet Another Unanswered Question On Creation for atheists/scientists by honourhim: 10:46pm On Nov 23, 2014
15 hours gone and still counting........no answer yet from the atheists.

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Re: Yet Another Unanswered Question On Creation for atheists/scientists by Weah96: 11:00pm On Nov 23, 2014
honourhim:
Over twelve hours now and still counting, yet no answers from the atheists.

Keep waiting. There is no single consensus in science about a host of issues, and language is one of them.

You claim to have the answer written down in a book, but that's not how humans provide answers to other humans.

Being able to translate something off an old piece of parchment doesn't make the translated information true.

Science has yet to provide a conclusive answer about the evolution of human language.

But as far as I'm concerned, the bible doesn't say anything about how language evolved either. A story was translated off pieces of old parchment. The story was then presented by you as your contribution to the question.
http://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.1001934

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Re: Yet Another Unanswered Question On Creation for atheists/scientists by honourhim: 12:01am On Nov 24, 2014
Weah96:


Keep waiting. There is no single consensus in science about a host of issues, and language is one of them.

This shows that science is facing bunch of confusions and therefore cannot be trusted as you people want us to do.

Weah96:



You claim to have the answer written down in a book, but that's not how humans provide answers to other humans.


Wrong sir. Rather you should say- thats not how atheists find answers. Billions of humans(christians) across the globe have seen answers in the bible so dont generalize. You cant use your believe as the bench mark to how humans are provided answers.

Weah96:



Being able to translate something off an old piece of parchment doesn't make the translated information true.


Bro leave your long stories, its sounding like a broken record and we are used to hearing it from you guys. Thats not the issue here now. The answer to my question is what is needed here pls.

Weah96:



Science has yet to provide a conclusive answer about the evolution of human language.


Just like they have not provided a concrete answer to the creation account and therefore has no basis to condemn the bible account. You people condemn the biblical account yet you have failed to provide a concrete account. Your condemnation has no basis. If you say my product is fake then show me the original. The best way to discredit the bible account is to provide a more concrete account. You dont have a concrete account hence you resort to condemning the biblical account. Thats wrong bro.

Weah96:



But as far as I'm concerned, the bible doesn't say anything about how language evolved either. A story was translated off pieces of old parchment. The story was then presented by you as your contribution to the question.


You are still engaging in the usual irrelevant noise of the atheists here sir. The bible gave an account of how language came to be and we are not here to debate it. Just provide your own answer to how it came to be. I cant play into your tricks of condemning the bible rather than providing a concrete answer to my question. Thats how you people deceive small boys and girls here.

Weah96:



http://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.1001934




The info in this link is quite empty and lacks any element of conviction that can make me drop the biblical account.
And of course, you and the writer admitted to its emptiness.

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Re: Yet Another Unanswered Question On Creation for atheists/scientists by Weah96: 12:25am On Nov 24, 2014
honourhim:

This shows that science is facing bunch of confusions and therefore cannot be trusted as you people want us to do.



Wrong sir. Rather you should say- thats not how atheists find answers. Billions of humans(christians) across the globe have seen answers in the bible so dont generalize. You cant use your believe as the bench mark to how humans are provided answers.



Bro leave your long stories, its sounding like a broken record and we are used to hearing it from you guys. Thats not the issue here now. The answer to my question is what is needed here pls.



Just like they have not provided a concrete answer to the creation account and therefore has no basis to condemn the bible account. You people condemn the biblical account yet you have failed to provide a concrete account. Your condemnation has no basis. If you say my product is fake then show me the original. The best way to discredit the bible account is to provide a more concrete account. You dont have a concrete account hence you resort to condemning the biblical account. Thats wrong bro.



You are still engaging in the usual irrelevant noise of the atheists here sir. The bible gave an account of how language came to be and we are not here to debate it. Just provide your own answer to how it came to be. I cant play into your tricks of condemning the bible rather than providing a concrete answer to my question. Thats how you people deceive small boys and girls here.




The info in this link is quite empty and lacks any element of conviction that can make me drop the biblical account.
And of course, you and the writer admitted to its emptiness.

Humans tried to build a house that reached the heavens and in order to stop them from building the house, Yahweh caused languages to magically enter their brains.



Is that not the biblical account? Does that make sense to you?

Science has multiple theories, none of which is conclusive. As we speak, thousands are studying this very question, hoping to develop a sensible answer. That's how scientists conduct business, they keep their mouth shut until someone has groundbreaking evidence which supports a particular theory.

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Re: Yet Another Unanswered Question On Creation for atheists/scientists by honourhim: 7:17am On Nov 24, 2014
Weah96:


Humans tried to build a house that reached the heavens and in order to stop them from building the house, Yahweh caused languages to magically enter their brains.


Is that not the biblical account? Does that make sense to you?



yes it makes sense to me very very well. Now thats not the issue here, present your own account and stop the diversionary tactics bro.

Weah96:


Science has multiple theories, none of which is conclusive. As we speak, thousands are studying this very question, hoping to develop a sensible answer. That's how scientists conduct business, they keep their mouth shut until someone has groundbreaking evidence which supports a particular theory.

Multiple theories, multiple confusions. The cycle of confusion continues. Try harder.
Re: Yet Another Unanswered Question On Creation for atheists/scientists by davien(m): 10:39am On Nov 24, 2014
honourhim.....what do you understand the big bang theory to be?.......
Re: Yet Another Unanswered Question On Creation for atheists/scientists by Weah96: 12:44pm On Nov 24, 2014
honourhim:


yes it makes sense to me very very well. Now thats not the issue here, present your own account and stop the diversionary tactics bro.



Multiple theories, multiple confusions. The cycle of confusion continues. Try harder.

You haven't presented anything. You made a passing move. A poll of NL Christians will reveal that only you believe that story to be a literal evolution of language.

Since you're curious, I happen to find the "stoned ape theory" by Terence McKenna to be very interesting.

http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2014/01/stoned-ape-theory-might-be-more-than-just-stoner-logic/
Re: Yet Another Unanswered Question On Creation for atheists/scientists by Weah96: 12:59pm On Nov 24, 2014
The silly bedtime story in the bible didn't even remember to mention how language began. The tower of Babel describes how God used magic to cause DIFFERENT languages to emerge, but NOTHING about the FIRST language.


Hahaha.
Re: Yet Another Unanswered Question On Creation for atheists/scientists by honourhim: 9:02pm On Nov 24, 2014
Weah96:


You haven't presented anything. You made a passing move. A poll of NL Christians will reveal that only you believe that story to be a literal evolution of language.

Since you're curious, I happen to find the "stoned ape theory" by Terence McKenna to be very interesting.

http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2014/01/stoned-ape-theory-might-be-more-than-just-stoner-logic/
Weah96:
The silly bedtime story in the bible didn't even remember to mention how language began. The tower of Babel describes how God used magic to cause DIFFERENT languages to emerge, but NOTHING about the FIRST language.
Hahaha.
Weah96:
The silly bedtime story in the bible didn't even remember to mention how language began. The tower of Babel describes how God used magic to cause DIFFERENT languages to emerge, but NOTHING about the FIRST language.
Hahaha.
Irrelevant posts.

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Re: Yet Another Unanswered Question On Creation for atheists/scientists by Weah96: 9:06pm On Nov 24, 2014
honourhim:


Irrelevant posts.

Just like your topic.

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Re: Yet Another Unanswered Question On Creation for atheists/scientists by honourhim: 9:11pm On Nov 24, 2014
davien:
honourhim.....what do you understand the big bang theory to be?.......

But bro that's not the issue here. I ll prefer we stick to the issue here. If there are things you think you want me to know about it then give me the link. Thanks.

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Re: Yet Another Unanswered Question On Creation for atheists/scientists by honourhim: 9:17pm On Nov 24, 2014
Weah96:


Just like your topic.

You have failed to answer my question. All these ones you are doing are diversionary tactics which I'm not ready to play into. Thanks for your time tho.

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Re: Yet Another Unanswered Question On Creation for atheists/scientists by onetrack(m): 9:24pm On Nov 24, 2014
Atheist here (working in the field of history). If you take a group of people who speak the same language, split them into three groups and isolate them from each other for 1000 years, then when you brought them back together they wouldn't be able to understand each other. This process would be even quicker if the peoples were not literate. That's how different languages form.

This has been observed many times. Latin, for instance, became a dozen different languages by about 700 AD.
Re: Yet Another Unanswered Question On Creation for atheists/scientists by dalaman: 9:57pm On Nov 24, 2014
honourhim:

We know the bible account of how the different languages/dialects of the world came to be so i dont need to go into it again. Now can the scientists/atheists provide us with their own account of how the various thousands of different languages/dialects across the world came to be?

You don't know anything, you only believe the biblical tale. By the way what was the original language humans were speaking before God in the bible decided to confuse them with different languages according to the bible?

Languages evolve that is the reality of the matter, take the English language as an example. It clearly evolved from the Anglo Saxon language. Latin which is dead now has also given birth to other languages.
Re: Yet Another Unanswered Question On Creation for atheists/scientists by honourhim: 10:10pm On Nov 24, 2014
dalaman:


You don't know anything, you only believe the biblical tale. By the way what was the original language humans were speaking before God in the bible decided to confuse them with different languages according to the bible?

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Yes I believe the bible very much and that's not your business. Your business here is to provide your own account.

dalaman:



Languages evolve that is the reality of the matter, take the English language as an example. It clearly evolved from the Anglo Saxon language. Latin which is dead now has also given birth to other languages.

You just danced around bro.
Re: Yet Another Unanswered Question On Creation for atheists/scientists by DrLazDevitan: 10:19pm On Nov 24, 2014
Science does not know how God came about or who created God...even the bible does not know it!
Re: Yet Another Unanswered Question On Creation for atheists/scientists by dalaman: 10:21pm On Nov 24, 2014
honourhim:


Yes I believe the bible very much and that's not your business. Your business here is to provide your own account.

What was the original language humans were speaking before God confused them with different languages?




You just danced around bro.

I gave you a clear example of how the Anglo Saxon language evolved into English over a long period of time and how Latin broke down into Spanish and other languages, yet you are claiming ignorance.
Re: Yet Another Unanswered Question On Creation for atheists/scientists by DrLazDevitan: 10:36pm On Nov 24, 2014
Mr Honourhim,what is the relevance of God causing confusion on the bulders of Babel to speaking in different tongue?

I saw no goodwill in that biblical myth of language evolution.Till date he never succeeded in the confusion he caused(as you may believed).Let's have it,God succeeded,babel was destroyed.Today with the numerous diversity and problems,what is so great about this biblical language evolution.

God destroy Sodom and Gomorrah because of Sodomy.Did God succeed in stopping Sodomy?

The answer is NO.People still carry it out as a normal lifestyle.

God destroy the earth with water because of sin.Did he succeed in killing sin totally?

The answer is NO.Sin is in the increase and will always be.

Lesson: Every action did by God sometime is useless and necessary does not call for mass bashing(including the confusion at Babel) as it does not solve the problem completely.

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Re: Yet Another Unanswered Question On Creation for atheists/scientists by Nik77: 10:54pm On Nov 24, 2014
Search for this thread "The Creation Chronicles—Random Thoughts of Non Believing Believer" & I believe you will surely find the answers u so itch for.
Re: Yet Another Unanswered Question On Creation for atheists/scientists by Weah96: 11:00pm On Nov 24, 2014
honourhim:


Yes I believe the bible very much and that's not your business. Your business here is to provide your own account.

Ok, I believe that a moon goat arrived on a comet and taught our cave dwelling ancestors how to speak.

Don't ask me any questions either. Take it or leave it.

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Re: Yet Another Unanswered Question On Creation for atheists/scientists by honourhim: 11:30pm On Nov 24, 2014
DrLazDevitan:
Mr Honourhim,what is the relevance of God causing confusion on the bulders of Babel to speaking in different tongue?

I saw no goodwill in that biblical myth of language evolution.Till date he never succeeded in the confusion he caused(as you may believed).Let's have it,God succeeded,babel was destroyed.Today with the numerous diversity and problems,what is so great about this biblical language evolution.

God destroy Sodom and Gomorrah because of Sodomy.Did God succeed in stopping Sodomy?

The answer is NO.People still carry it out as a normal lifestyle.

God destroy the earth with water because of sin.Did he succeed in killing sin totally?

The answer is NO.Sin is in the increase and will always be.

Lesson: Every action did by God sometime is useless and necessary does not call for mass bashing(including the confusion at Babel) as it does not solve the problem completely.

This is how people fail exams. I asked for your own account of how the different languages of the world came to be and you are here telling me what you think about God's action. Na wa for una. I'm not interested in your views about God. Your views about him is for you and not me. But thats not the issue here. Lets not digress bro.
Re: Yet Another Unanswered Question On Creation for atheists/scientists by honourhim: 11:47pm On Nov 24, 2014
dalaman:


What was the original language humans were speaking before God confused them with different languages?






I gave you a clear example of how the Anglo Saxon language evolved into English over a long period of time and how Latin broke down into Spanish and other languages, yet you are claiming ignorance.

You simply told me an account you read and believed, you were not there when it happened, No? Yet you are condemning me for believing the biblical account. There is nothing strong about the account you gave here bro. Kindly provide the link. Thanks.

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Re: Yet Another Unanswered Question On Creation for atheists/scientists by malakh7: 12:15am On Nov 25, 2014
"God of the gaps" is a type of theological perspective, a fallacy in which gaps in scientific knowledge are taken to be evidence or proof of God's existence.


"I don't know how this happened, therefore god did it cheesy "

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Re: Yet Another Unanswered Question On Creation for atheists/scientists by AlfaSeltzer(m): 12:24am On Nov 25, 2014
@ op. Don't you find it curious that Babel was mentioned in chapter 10 of Genesis as the beginning of kingdom of Nimrod, the hunter. Then the name Babel gets coined in chapter 11 of the same book ? Weird book this bible.

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