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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 6:43am On Feb 03, 2017
ValerianSteel:
He filed it on his Inauguration Day. Even if he does well with the country which is highly unlikely to happen, I don't want him re-elected.
Count me in on that.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Missy89(f): 9:40am On Feb 03, 2017
ValerianSteel:
Trump is lifting certain sanctions on Russia. That didn't take long folks. Also in the news, he had his aides turn off the recorder when he spoke to his boyfriend Putin, no transcripts for the conversation. He also sent his ex wife Ivana to Russia to discuss his sex tape blackmail with Russian officials.

ICYMI, Der Führer almost sinks relationship with an ally, he slammed the phone on Malcolm Turnbull, Australian PM. Slams new sanctions on Iran.


Fake news


Thursday’s move is really just meant to cure an unintended consequence of an order signed late in December that was preventing U.S. companies from exporting computer software that contains encryption capabilities to Russia.

In December, after intelligence agencies in the U.S. determined that not only had Russia attempted to interfere with the November presidential election but that the order had been given from the very top of the Kremlin, Obama took steps to further strengthen existing sanctions. One of those moves was the addition of the FSB to the list of entities that U.S. persons, businesses and particularly financial institutions are barred from doing business with.

The problem for U.S. software and technology firms is that in order to sell products containing encryption software in Russia, it is necessary to buy a license. And the licenses are sold by the FSB. That meant that U.S. computer firms and others were unable to buy the required licenses and, therefore, were being shut out of the Russian market.



“This simply addresses this unintended consequence that actually harms U.S. businesses,” said Douglas N. Jacobson, an international trade attorney with the law firm Jacobson Burton Kelley in Washington. “That was not what this was intended to do. OFAC didn’t even realize that U.S. companies had to obtain this authorization from Russia to import their products.”

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by obixcel(m): 9:42am On Feb 03, 2017
Missy89:


Fake news
Gbam!

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 10:19am On Feb 03, 2017
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/02/trumps-enemies-within-214735


How on earth is all this stuff getting in the newspapers? Bob Haldeman told Richard Nixon that he had uncovered the culprit: Mark Felt, a top official at the FBI.

“Now why the hell would he do that?” asked Nixon, who was secretly recording the exchange.

Cracking down on Felt directly was out of the question, the two men agreed. “If we move on him, then he’ll go out and unload everything,” Haldeman said, of the man later revealed as Deep Throat. “He knows everything that’s to be known in the FBI.”

Donald Trump, a self-professed Nixon admirer, is learning this history lesson about the presidency in real time: His most dangerous enemies are people who ostensibly work for him.

Modern presidents always feel hectored by the news media and harried by opposition legislators. But mortal threats to their power typically come from hostile forces inside the executive branch.

The phenomenon has rarely been on more vivid display, with Trump buffeted by an unprecedented barrage of leaks about his decision-making and direct challenges to the decisions themselves—a new example coming almost daily—from within the permanent bureaucracy of government.

On Trump’s first full day in office, he called National Park Service director Michael T. Reynolds and ordered him to produce photos that would buttress Trump’s claims that reporters had falsely described the magnitude of his inaugural crowds. Trump’s intervention quickly found its way into the media.

A draft executive order directing the CIA to consider reviving interrogation techniques widely regarded as torture was quickly publicized without White House approval—as was the news that Defense Secretary James Mattis and CIA director Mike Pompeo were allegedly “blindsided” by the proposal.

More than 1,000 State Department officials signed and submitted a “Dissent Channel” memo criticizing Trump’s executive order halting refugees from several predominately Muslim countries from entering the country. A memo from Acting Attorney General Sally Yates to Justice Department officials telling them not to defend the order was quickly publicized, leading to Yates’s firing by Trump a few hours later.

Extensive details of Trump’s combative phone calls with the leaders of Mexico and Australia—calls that ordinarily are private or are described in anodyne terms—were leaked shortly after the calls were over, from sources that likely included U.S. officials concerned by Trump’s unconventional brand of diplomacy.

Reconstructions of a botched commando raid on al Qaeda in Yemen—Trump’s first use of military force—noted that the decision-making meeting was attended by Trump son-in-law Jared Kushner and counselor Steve Bannon, an involvement by primarily political aides that offends many career national security officials.

The examples are notable both for the speed in which they are coming and the obvious skepticism they convey from within the executive branch both about the merits of Trump’s agenda or the methods by which he is trying to impose it.

“Where you have new Cabinet secretaries and unnamed officials speaking out on background across the board about the lack of input screams dysfunction and it’s dangerous and irresponsible,” said a former Bush administration official who did not want to be quoted by name criticizing the current administration.

Trump reached his present station by mocking news media skeptics and humiliating establishment politicians who challenged him. He arguably has earned the right to be contemptuous of criticism from these quarters.

But what he has experienced his first two weeks is different. It is an illustration of something most of his predecessors learned about the presidency: When people say “Yes, sir,” they might really mean “Screw you.”

Nixon certainly knew it. It may have been the Washington Post that won fame for his fall. But as the Oct. 19, 1972 conversation with Haldeman in the White House tapes suggested, it was Felt and the institutional hostility of the FBI that was a primary engine of his undoing. Nixon and his most fearsome henchman had accurately fingered a key source for Watergate stories almost 33 years before Bob Woodward’s golden source was revealed.

Nixon’s suspicion of institutional forces supposedly under his control was compulsive—but not necessarily inaccurate. Another passage in the tapes has him noting that Secretary of State William P. Rogers was vouching for the loyalty of Foreign Service officers. “He knows better. He knows better,” Nixon fumed. “Those sons of bitches are out to screw us.”

The larger reality Nixon was describing—that presidential power can’t necessarily be captured in an org chart—is one that even presidents without his paranoid streak knew well.

When Dwight Eisenhower, a five-star general who was used to having his orders followed, became president, his unadmiring predecessor Harry S. Truman supposedly remarked: “Poor Ike. He’ll say ‘do this’ and ‘do that’ and nothing at all will happen.”

Unique among modern presidents, Trump arrived in office without government experience and without, so far as the public record is known, any deep reflection about how to use the levers of the executive branch to achieve his objectives. What’s unclear so far is whether his willingness to offend and defy the sensibilities of the executive branch servants assigned to carry out his policies simply reflects his own temperament or is part of a deliberate strategy. Asked about the State Department dissent channel memo, White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer told reporters: “These career bureaucrats have a problem with it? I think they should either get with the program or they can go.”

“You can’t make omelets without breaking eggs,” was how Roger Stone, a longtime Trump adviser who also worked in the Nixon administration, put it.

While Trump’s particular circumstances are extraordinary, the larger dynamic—like an unruly Rottweiler, the permanent bureaucracy will either be at your heel or at your throat—is one all presidents must reckon with.

“I have often joked with people that one question that I heard more than once from the president is, ‘Don’t those people work for us?’” said Jack Quinn, former counsel to President Clinton.

Often presidents decide that accommodation, or sullen acquiescence, is the wiser course. During his first term, as President Barack Obama was deciding how rapidly to carry out his stated desire for withdrawal from Iraq and Afghanistan, the timing and substance of his policies often seemed to reflect his desire to avoid open warfare with the military. In particular, generals David Petraeus and Stanley McChrystal, before their own controversies forced them from office, were highly popular and well-connected commanders whose disagreement could have far-reaching implications for the administration even if they never went public with an open break.

Bill Clinton loathed Louis Freeh, his own appointee as director of the FBI, and mused to aides about whether Freeh was more disloyal or more incompetent. But because Freeh was investigating his own administration, and because Clinton had a distant-at-best relationship with Attorney General Janet Reno, he didn’t dare fire him. Asked if Clinton had confidence in his own appointee, press secretary Mike McCurry responded, “The president has great confidence that Louis Freeh is leading that agency as best he can.”

While unsympathetic to Trump, Leon Panetta, a former chief of staff for Clinton and defense secretary and CIA director under Obama, sounded sympathetic to the larger challenge of getting the executive branch to yield to a president’s objectives.

“To govern, frankly, it’s not a pretty-please process, it’s a kick-ass process,” Panetta said in an interview.

One simple piece of advice Panetta has for Trump is face-time with his new bureaucrats to try to win their loyalty.

“Most presidents take the time to visit the different departments and agencies and convey the fact that while they may not agree on all the issues, that they respect what they’re doing, what they’ve done and that they’re now part of a new administration. You gotta lay that groundwork or otherwise it all becomes guerrilla warfare,” he said.

Extending that olive branch to your own government employees is a crucial step. “My experience is you’re far better off respecting the civil servants than you are by ignoring or dismissing them because it will come around and bite you in the end,” said David Gergen, a former adviser to four presidents, including Nixon.

Though Trump’s style seems wildly improvisational, the public official in recent times who thought more methodically about how to control and dominate the executive branch was former Vice President Dick Cheney. Unlike Trump or his coterie, Cheney was intimately familiar with the hidden byways of the federal government due to his service as chief of staff under Gerald Ford, a member of Congress in the Reagan years and defense secretary in the George H.W. Bush administration.

He believed that the presidency had been weakened by an overreaction to Watergate and was determined to restore presidential prerogatives to what he considered their rightful place. Along the way, he often faced a permanent bureaucracy hostile to his conservative ideology and hawkish military views. And he made it his mission to ensure that these forces did not thwart administration policies.

“Cheney focused less on the Cabinet than subcabinet and assistant and deputy assistant secretaries because he knew the policy pivot points were there,” said Bart Gellman, senior fellow at the Century Foundation and author of “Angler: The Cheney Vice Presidency.”

“He bypassed normal interagency and White House review, sending documents for Bush’s signature before even the staff secretary reviewed them,” Gellman noted.

Cheney often got his way until Bush lost confidence in his hard-line ideas, and only then, said Gellman—pointing to the White House’s showdown with the Justice Department over warrantless wiretapping--when they became “a threat to his reelection and his presidency itself.”

That’s a lesson that Trump, who is already revving up the 2020 machinery only 14 days into his term, can understand.


viva le resistance
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 11:22am On Feb 03, 2017
oyb:
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/02/trumps-enemies-within-214735





viva le resistance
If the Trampy president doesn't change his way, it's going to end up bad like Nixon. Unfortunately , Americans will bear the brunt of it like we did towards the end of George W president when all the Blue chips companies in America were going belly up and thank God Obama came to rescue America . I know of a guy I used to work with who committed suicide because of his dwindling portfolio . Republican presidents are good in damaging US economy and Democrats always clean up after their mess. It's an historical truth and I dare any of Trump's lackey to challenge me on that.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Kophschmerzen: 12:52pm On Feb 03, 2017
Joe manchin and Feinstein should be primaried, that waste of time is a gop shithead carrying dnc card. Those two useless idiots have voted for every of drumpf nominees.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Modsbuty: 1:12pm On Feb 03, 2017
"[Donald Trump]'s our president...It's time for us to embrace and shake hands with this fact. And be constructive with him over the next four years." - Matthew McConaughey

Could it be because of his new film

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Kophschmerzen: 1:15pm On Feb 03, 2017
Modsbuty:
"[Donald Trump]'s our president...It's time for us to embrace and shake hands with this fact. And be constructive with him over the next four years." - Matthew McConaughey

Could it be because of his new film

grin

Embrace a loser that have nominated the worst assemblage of never do well, does Betsy Devos, Scott Pruitt, Andrew Pusher, Rex Tillerson, Jeff Sessions, Tom price and Steve Bannon sound familiar. ****

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Modsbuty: 1:19pm On Feb 03, 2017
https://mobile.facebook.com/FoxFriendsFirst/photos/a.383290185016050.98210.365084476836621/1450017905009934/?type=3&refid=28&_ft_=qid.6382854387207542327%3Amf_story_key.-7277241009999415795%3Atop_level_post_id.1450017905009934&__tn__=E



Majority of Americans support President Trump grin

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 1:25pm On Feb 03, 2017
Kophschmerzen:


Embrace a loser that have nominated the worst assemblage of never do well, does Betsy Devos, Scott Pruitt, Andrew Pusher, Rex Tillerson, Jeff Sessions, Tom price and Steve Bannon sound familiar. You should be donated to the history and artifacts of illiteracy and stupidity.
My man, take it easy on that God forgotten creature.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Appleyard(m): 5:24pm On Feb 03, 2017
ValerianSteel:
Trump is lifting certain sanctions on Russia. That didn't take long folks. Also in the news, he had his aides turn off the recorder when he spoke to his boyfriend Putin, no transcripts for the conversation. He also sent his ex wife Ivana to Russia to discuss his sex tape blackmail with Russian officials.

ICYMI, Der Führer almost sinks relationship with an ally, he slammed the phone on Malcolm Turnbull, Australian PM. Slams new sanctions on Iran.




Welcome to the world of the realists... grin

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by mojeer678: 10:11pm On Feb 03, 2017
CFCman:
President Trump has officially filed documents for re-election with the FEC.

It's the earliest presidential re-election filing in modern political history.

TRUMP JUST SHUT GEORGE SOROS DOWN

He did it in an incredibly efficient way, without saying a word about Soros. This is how Trump will operate, and this is GOLDEN.

Trump announced he is going to run for President in 2020. What does that mean? It means that he's now a candidate for 2020, which is something that has never been done before - no incumbent President has ever announced candidacy this early before, EVER. What did this accomplish? SOROS, who does everything with NGO's has been shut up, because it is illegal for any NGO or foundation to speak or act against a candidate because that is interference with an election. So they can only do it against a president, who is not a candidate. If he'd done this before the marches that took place, Soros would be toast even now.

So by stating he's a candidate this early, he has shut up Soros for 4 full years! HA HA HA, that's a good one! The details are HERE (https://mobile.twitter.com/resisterhood/status/825435325535252480) and keep in mind, this also badly stifles a lawsuit Soros is trying to push through with one of his foundations, which claims Trump should be impeached because he is receiving money from foreigners via rents paid on properties he owns. That is an obvious mis-application of the law, which now cannot be done with a foundation, Soros has to do it directly.

Hahaha!!! Let someone read tis to ValerianSteel and explain same to Lucasbalo and their ilks grin grin grin

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by mojeer678: 10:14pm On Feb 03, 2017
ValerianSteel:
Trump is lifting certain sanctions on Russia. That didn't take long folks. Also in the news, he had his aides turn off the recorder when he spoke to his boyfriend Putin, no transcripts for the conversation. He also sent his ex wife Ivana to Russia to discuss his sex tape blackmail with Russian officials.

ICYMI, Der Führer almost sinks relationship with an ally, he slammed the phone on Malcolm Turnbull, Australian PM. Slams new sanctions on Iran.


NEW TREND IN MSM & VALERIANSTEEL LIES

Drudge got punked by this, so it can happen to anyone. Here's the deal:

Wishful liberals and other assorted communists (whoever) want to create the image that Trump has no faithful people surrounding him. And their latest attempts at this have come in the form of "leaked transcripts" of phone calls to world leaders, which were provided by "moles in Trump's staff." PROBLEM: The transcripts are fake.

Yesterday, one such attempt at this was launched against Trump by someone who wanted to undermine Mexican relations. Supposedly, in a call to Pena Nieto Trump threatened to send troops to Mexico to "take out some bad hombres" in the drug cartels because "Mexico's troops were too afraid to do it themselves". It went viral. Even Drudge posted it. But as it turned out, no such thing was ever said, and in fact Trump's call to Pena Nieto went extremely well.

Now there is a report about a leaked transcript with Australia's PM that once again "showed Trump as being rude and pushy". We already got the heads up with a fake report regarding Mexico, if you see any report about a phone call not going well, treat it with the greatest skepticism.

Whoever is doing this has a direct pipeline into the heart of the media apparatus. And they are spewing absolute crap, completely dreamed up garbage in the hopes of inflicting as much damage as possible. The Mexican media vetted the "troops in Mexico" report and called it pure crap. The story then fell over everywhere like a stack of dominoes.

This level of hate and bile is so sickening!! angry angry angry

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by mojeer678: 10:25pm On Feb 03, 2017
ValerianSteel:
Am all for prayers in school.

prevaricator!! grin

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 10:59pm On Feb 03, 2017
mojeer678:


TRUMP JUST SHUT GEORGE SOROS DOWN

He did it in an incredibly efficient way, without saying a word about Soros. This is how Trump will operate, and this is GOLDEN.

Trump announced he is going to run for President in 2020. What does that mean? It means that he's now a candidate for 2020, which is something that has never been done before - no incumbent President has ever announced candidacy this early before, EVER. What did this accomplish? SOROS, who does everything with NGO's has been shut up, because it is illegal for any NGO or foundation to speak or act against a candidate because that is interference with an election. So they can only do it against a president, who is not a candidate. If he'd done this before the marches that took place, Soros would be toast even now.

So by stating he's a candidate this early, he has shut up Soros for 4 full years! HA HA HA, that's a good one! The details are HERE (https://mobile.twitter.com/resisterhood/status/825435325535252480) and keep in mind, this also badly stifles a lawsuit Soros is trying to push through with one of his foundations, which claims Trump should be impeached because he is receiving money from foreigners via rents paid on properties he owns. That is an obvious mis-application of the law, which now cannot be done with a foundation, Soros has to do it directly.

Hahaha!!! Let someone read tis to ValerianSteel and explain same to Lucasbalo and their ilks grin grin grin
George Soros is more of an American than your worthless trump by virtue of paying his taxes as at when due. Secondly, you as a Bus Conductor is ill informed about how things work in America . We do not run a dictatorship like you do in your third world . Trump can't do anything to cancel opposition voices against him like he wont to do. People like you and your ilks foaming in the mouth are so used to two bit dictators that you think trump can just bamboozle people. People all over the advanced world are so much against trump and people living in hellish countries where nothing works except tyranny, nepotism and corruption are in love with a demagogue . Damn you in your pitiful titanic and damn trump.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by obixcel(m): 9:02am On Feb 04, 2017
Soros, the chief sponsor of paid anti-Trump protest. grin

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by schwarzkopf(m): 5:03pm On Feb 04, 2017
This is the most important thing you can read today.

On the evening of Saturday, Jan. 28, as airport protests raged over President Trump’s executive order on immigration, the man charged with implementing the order, Homeland Security Secretary John F. Kelly, had a plan. He would issue a waiver for lawful permanent residents, a.k.a. green-card holders, from the seven majority-Muslim countries whose citizens had been banned from entering the United States.

White House chief strategist Stephen K. Bannon wanted to stop Kelly in his tracks. Bannon paid a personal and unscheduled visit to Kelly’s Department of Homeland Security office to deliver an order: Don’t issue the waiver. Kelly, according to two administration officials familiar with the confrontation, refused to comply with Bannon’s instruction. That was the beginning of a weekend of negotiations among senior Trump administration staffers that led, on Sunday, to a decision by Trump to temporarily freeze the issuance of executive orders.

The confrontation between Bannon and Kelly pitted a political operator against a military disciplinarian. Respectfully but firmly, the retired general and longtime Marine told Bannon that despite his high position in the White House and close relationship with Trump, the former Breitbart chief was not in Kelly’s chain of command, two administration officials said. If the president wanted Kelly to back off from issuing the waiver, Kelly would have to hear it from the president directly, he told Bannon.

READ MORE @:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/josh-rogin/wp/2017/02/04/the-white-house-cabinet-battle-over-trumps-immigration-ban/?utm_term=.300dae6fe9eb

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 6:00pm On Feb 04, 2017
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schwarzkopf:
This is the most important thing you can read today.

On the evening of Saturday, Jan. 28, as airport protests raged over President Trump’s executive order on immigration, the man charged with implementing the order, Homeland Security Secretary John F. Kelly, had a plan. He would issue a waiver for lawful permanent residents, a.k.a. green-card holders, from the seven majority-Muslim countries whose citizens had been banned from entering the United States.

White House chief strategist Stephen K. Bannon wanted to stop Kelly in his tracks. Bannon paid a personal and unscheduled visit to Kelly’s Department of Homeland Security office to deliver an order: Don’t issue the waiver. Kelly, according to two administration officials familiar with the confrontation, refused to comply with Bannon’s instruction. That was the beginning of a weekend of negotiations among senior Trump administration staffers that led, on Sunday, to a decision by Trump to temporarily freeze the issuance of executive orders.

The confrontation between Bannon and Kelly pitted a political operator against a military disciplinarian. Respectfully but firmly, the retired general and longtime Marine told Bannon that despite his high position in the White House and close relationship with Trump, the former Breitbart chief was not in Kelly’s chain of command, two administration officials said. If the president wanted Kelly to back off from issuing the waiver, Kelly would have to hear it from the president directly, he told Bannon.

READ MORE @:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/josh-rogin/wp/2017/02/04/the-white-house-cabinet-battle-over-trumps-immigration-ban/?utm_term=.300dae6fe9eb

Any question as to who is wagging the orange retriever in the white house?

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by obixcel(m): 6:14pm On Feb 04, 2017
Trump has suggested to the Republican senators to "go nuclear" if the Democraps (who are still on a melt down since the past election) continue to frustrate d nomination of The Justices of the Supreme Court. Bitterness blinds someone dat even though he/she sees something good in a person he/she will still not appreciate it.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 7:29pm On Feb 04, 2017
oyb:
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Any question as to who is wagging the orange retriever in the white house?

Stephen Bannon is an avowed racist and that's why fair minded Americans were so disappointed with trump making him the chief counselor to the president. Google Breibart News and see how despicable being he his.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by mojeer678: 8:48pm On Feb 04, 2017
Lucasbalo:
George Soros is more of an American than your worthless trump by virtue of paying his taxes as at when due. .

Hahaha!!

Amerika-based illiterate!

Exotic specie grin

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 9:35pm On Feb 04, 2017
mojeer678:


Hahaha!!

Amerika-based illiterate!

Exotic specie grin
Bus conductor on a dust. Your worthless bigoted tramp would be disgraced out of office. His third Reich wouldn't last. Third world never do well like you will always foam in the mouth till the Titanic will sink. Gutless bum.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by mojeer678: 10:54pm On Feb 04, 2017
oyb:
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Any question as to who is wagging the orange retriever in the white house?


BLOCKBUSTER MAGA! TRUMP TO OBLITERATE JOHNSON AMENDMENT

The Johnson amendment prevented pastors from talking politics, and how to swing politically to stop the destruction of America.

The Johnson amendment is the amendment that stopped churches from aligning behind a political candidate. And it is a relatively new amendment (from the 1950's which saw America quickly decline into a moral cesspool. We really did need the pastors involved in politics. Trump has vowed to completely destroy this amendment, and quite frankly if you want to make America great again and destroy the democrat communists there could not possibly be a better thing that could be done. This move by Trump is pure Make America Great Again GOLD. Yes, I'd take a pastor over Hillary ANY DAY.

The only down side is that the churches have been so badly damaged that it won't have the impact it would have had 20 years ago. But it is still going to be a HUGE impact.

I have seen numerous comments around the web that every day of Trump is like receiving a new gift. Well, I'd have to agree, and this one was a BIG one.

Trump is also ditching "too big to fail", in fact, that might already be ditched. And web rumor has it that he's going to unload on Clinton, and try to lock her up. And he's turned against the Israeli settlements and has gone to a two state solution, because he learns quick. He's doing AWESOME, what more can I say? Things are moving so fast I can't keep up with it all. MAGA ALL THE WAY!

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by mojeer678: 10:59pm On Feb 04, 2017
Appleyard:


Welcome to the world of the realists... grin

I wonder if VS would be able to sleep well tonight, since his delusional world saw Trump under Bibi's thumbs

JERUSALEM POST: TRUMP IS COMMITTED TO A TWO STATE SOLUTION

Media Matters is most likely working overtime to undermine Trump by getting people to think Trump is in bed with the Jews. I have always said that is not the case, and this proves it!

See: http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/Trump-warns-Israel-Stop-announcing-new-settlements-480446

These guys don't understand Divine intervention in the affairs of men. They have never and they will never. smiley smiley

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 11:09pm On Feb 04, 2017
mojeer678:


BLOCKBUSTER MAGA! TRUMP TO OBLITERATE JOHNSON AMENDMENT

The Johnson amendment prevented pastors from talking politics, and how to swing politically to stop the destruction of America.

The Johnson amendment is the amendment that stopped churches from aligning behind a political candidate. And it is a relatively new amendment (from the 1950's which saw America quickly decline into a moral cesspool. We really did need the pastors involved in politics. Trump has vowed to completely destroy this amendment, and quite frankly if you want to make America great again and destroy the democrat communists there could not possibly be a better thing that could be done. This move by Trump is pure Make America Great Again GOLD. Yes, I'd take a pastor over Hillary ANY DAY.

The only down side is that the churches have been so badly damaged that it won't have the impact it would have had 20 years ago. But it is still going to be a HUGE impact.

I have seen numerous comments around the web that every day of Trump is like receiving a new gift. Well, I'd have to agree, and this one was a BIG one.

Trump is also ditching "too big to fail", in fact, that might already be ditched. And web rumor has it that he's going to unload on Clinton, and try to lock her up. And he's turned against the Israeli settlements and has gone to a two state solution, because he learns quick. He's doing AWESOME, what more can I say? Things are moving so fast I can't keep up with it all. MAGA ALL THE WAY!

Trump will have his way on this issue only due to Republican control of Congress. But Republicans should be careful about ramming through every right-wing wet dream because the Dems could take control of Congress after next year's midterms.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by mojeer678: 11:11pm On Feb 04, 2017
obixcel:
Soros, the chief sponsor of paid anti-Trump protest. grin

Many don't know the source of those colour-coded "revolutions" that hit the ME and Europe sometime ago. That they spontaneously happened is the result of naivete thinking.

They tried and failed with the red-coloured BBOG and now, Innocent 'Tuface' Idibia has announced to protesters to dress 'green' on Monday for the Lagos/Abuja protests.

Can anyone vouch that George Soros (not real name), the ashkenazi jew's fingerprints won't be found somewhere in these protests?

Time will tell!
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Appleyard(m): 11:25pm On Feb 04, 2017
mojeer678:


I wonder if VS would be able to sleep well tonight, since his delusional world saw Trump under Bibi's thumbs

JERUSALEM POST: TRUMP IS COMMITTED TO A TWO STATE SOLUTION

Media Matters is most likely working overtime to undermine Trump by getting people to think Trump is in bed with the Jews. I have always said that is not the case, and this proves it!

See: http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/Trump-warns-Israel-Stop-announcing-new-settlements-480446

These guys don't understand Divine intervention in the affairs of men. They have never and they will never. smiley smiley

I quite agree with you, @ the bolded. Lots of folks down here are too blinded by sentiments to perceive reality itself. They simply don't understand how the spiritual governs the physical, for if they do, they would have known that Donald Trump was spiritually designed to pilot the affairs of America by the cosmic until the day of reckoning when the cup of America's departure from God and its Satanic priesthood cum decimation of the world shall be filled, and the wrath and fierceness of Almighty God shall come upon it from across the great waters...

The mouth of the Lord has spoken and designed it, and Donald Trump is part of that design and he is here to stay: and all those hoping for his impeachment and death will have to wait till fowl grows teeth...

The Spiritual don't lie....

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 11:39pm On Feb 04, 2017
mojeer678:


Many don't know the source of those colour-coded "revolutions" that hit the ME and Europe sometime ago. That they spontaneously happened is the result of naivete thinking.

They tried and failed with the red-coloured BBOG and now, Innocent 'Tuface' Idibia has announced to protesters to dress 'green' on Monday for the Lagos/Abuja protests.

Can anyone vouch that George Soros (not real name), the ashkenazi jew's fingerprints won't be found somewhere in these protests?

Time will tell!

And it's crystal clear that Soros is positioning Senator Ben Bruce to be the next president of Nigeria.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 11:53pm On Feb 04, 2017
Appleyard:


I quite agree with you, @ the bolded. Lots of folks down here are too blinded by sentiments to perceive reality itself. They simply don't understand how the spiritual governs the physical, for if they do, they would have known that Donald Trump was spiritually designed to pilot the affairs of America by the cosmic until the day of reckoning when the cup of America's departure from God and its Satanic priesthood cum decimation of the world shall be filled, and the wrath and fierceness of Almighty God shall come upon it from across the great waters...

The mouth of the Lord has spoken and designed it, and Donald Trump is part of that design and he is here to stay: and all those hoping for his impeachment and death will have to wait till fowl grows teeth...

The Spiritual don't lie....
Keep hallucinating. Surprised how Nigerians are in love with a racist. Some things are just too wacky to comprehend.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 12:00am On Feb 05, 2017
CFCman:


Trump will have his way on this issue only due to Republican control of Congress. But Republicans should be careful about ramming through every right-wing wet dream because the Dems could take control of Congress after next year's midterms.

That is going to be his problem. I mean all the wacky right agenda he's trying to push on Americans. The village skunk and bus conductor and his ilks can't understand where people like me are coming from. America is not a third world country that a president will lord over. I wish the noisemakers are here to see the kind of opposition the little hitler is going through. Like I said before, it's going to be a very interesting four years.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 12:07am On Feb 05, 2017
schwarzkopf:
This is the most important thing you can read today.

On the evening of Saturday, Jan. 28, as airport protests raged over President Trump’s executive order on immigration, the man charged with implementing the order, Homeland Security Secretary John F. Kelly, had a plan. He would issue a waiver for lawful permanent residents, a.k.a. green-card holders, from the seven majority-Muslim countries whose citizens had been banned from entering the United States.

White House chief strategist Stephen K. Bannon wanted to stop Kelly in his tracks. Bannon paid a personal and unscheduled visit to Kelly’s Department of Homeland Security office to deliver an order: Don’t issue the waiver. Kelly, according to two administration officials familiar with the confrontation, refused to comply with Bannon’s instruction. That was the beginning of a weekend of negotiations among senior Trump administration staffers that led, on Sunday, to a decision by Trump to temporarily freeze the issuance of executive orders.

The confrontation between Bannon and Kelly pitted a political operator against a military disciplinarian. Respectfully but firmly, the retired general and longtime Marine told Bannon that despite his high position in the White House and close relationship with Trump, the former Breitbart chief was not in Kelly’s chain of command, two administration officials said. If the president wanted Kelly to back off from issuing the waiver, Kelly would have to hear it from the president directly, he told Bannon.

READ MORE @:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/josh-rogin/wp/2017/02/04/the-white-house-cabinet-battle-over-trumps-immigration-ban/?utm_term=.300dae6fe9eb
In all my years of following politics in US, I have never seen any administration in such a disarray . One thing I am sure of is that the mini dictator will find out how determined Americans are to fight him all the way. The fight will start from his SCOTUS nominee.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by schwarzkopf(m): 3:41am On Feb 05, 2017
Appleyard:


I quite agree with you, @ the bolded. Lots of folks down here are too blinded by sentiments to perceive reality itself. They simply don't understand how the spiritual governs the physical, for if they do, they would have known that Donald Trump was spiritually designed to pilot the affairs of America by the cosmic until the day of reckoning when the cup of America's departure from God and its Satanic priesthood cum decimation of the world shall be filled, and the wrath and fierceness of Almighty God shall come upon it from across the great waters...

The mouth of the Lord has spoken and designed it, and Donald Trump is part of that design and he is here to stay: and all those hoping for his impeachment and death will have to wait till fowl grows teeth...

The Spiritual don't lie....

As matter of urgency check into a rehab, do you hear voices when you are alone?? Or get all these CIA monitoring me situations Brother you are witnessing advance stage of schizophrenia. Cosmic radiation my black air beaten a***.

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