BlackBaron:

OMG
Who be this, So destroying a technical with an AA gun that'll otherwise kill and maim valuable officers and soldiers needed on the battlefield 'doesn't make sense'?. How about the many hundreds of thousands/millions (dollars) invested in training, courses abroad, field experience that would be snuffed out if one technical isn't stopped or destroyed?

Guy, be honest, who do you work for?

Texman21:
I think u should be the one to understand what u wrote.Afghanistan is part of middle east(greater middle east).

ugo4u:
I saw a video on twitter today showing the COAS leading operations in the NE(that's what it was tagged) mere looking at the convoy, the type of vehicles used(Hilux)and the way they were advancing my heart was just beating. Many things went through my mind, it's very easy to lay ambush on our troops walai! Just one land mine/ IED will wreck havoc. I don't know why I am just irritated seeing those Innoson pickup/Toyota Hilux as our primary patrol vehicles, our guys are just too exposed, and genuinely feel for them putting into Cognizance the fact that just one bullet within the kill zone of the body is enough. I still insist we if possible sign a bond with Proforce for continuous production of Mraps infact we can help them expand production line by giving them necessary support (loans) same for NA's Ezugwu Mraps, if Innoson can manufacture APCs/Mraps they too should be given massive contracts, we need to relegate the Hilux for transport of logistics in other part of the country that are peaceful not a hot zone like NE.

phazotron:



Afghanistan isn't Middle east. They're not even Arabs. Afghanistan as well as the other stans are in central Asia.

komekn:


What does it take to CO-ORDINATE a mission it requires 100% connectivity of all combatants to ensure command and control.

Coordination of air assets to ground targets after being painted with lazer for precision strikes is what gives you overriding advantage.

What do you notice about modern armies every combatant is linked in.That gives complete spatial awareness and the ability engagements to be directed and positioned for the best advantage. Making it possible for a unit of 12/15 men to engage 100 create confusion and overcome them.

Are all our combatants linked in with individual comms for control and command, NO.


How much will it cost to do that and effectively increase efficiency by near 100%

komekn:


For me the A-29 Super Tucano is a poor marketing strategy for a plane that has limited functionality but is being presented as a game changer to gullible unimportant 3rd world nations that are not considered strategic to USA interests.

The term COIN is one of these buzz word used in contemporary times to address the issues of counter-insurgency strategy in war against insurgency. It means everything but nothing specifically its ambiguous and fluid. As a consequence how do you measure its success

So when somebody carries a megaphone and says it is the best aircraft for fighting COIN in the world what does that mean what is the unit of measurement, historical deployment, battle records, delivery impact , etc, etc. In actual fact it means NOTHING, its just noise.

But the USA have said so, then it must be true according to a few. If somebody says that the food in his Mums restaurant is the best in the city, but he never eats there, Eeeeee get as he be Will you believe him.

Lets look at Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan and ask to what percentage of USA aircraft deployed over the past 5,7,10 years in these atypical COIN war settings were the A-29 Super Tucano. If you look at the % US flight hours for this the best COIN attack aircraft in the world across all locations the US has been engaged in COIN, how many flight hours has the A-29 Super Tucano in combat So how do you underpin the efficacy of an an attack aircraft without an experiential historical base line to make a deduction from. By presumption and or imagination.

Second observation, the USA has allies and partners, number 1 is probably UK or Israel, and NATO in the Middle east its Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Turkey, Iraq, Qatar, Pakistan, Morocco, Jordan all these countries are having issues with insurgency some to greater extent than others. They are either major partner or minor partners with the USA. Africa i really cant see a major strategic partner, or please correct me.

Now considering the relationship of these major partners and or minor partners and the need for COIN attack aircraft, how many of them have procured the A-29 Super Tucano in their inventory of their air forces The answer is a very loud resounding NONE not even ONE, I wonder why

So how did anybody conclude this A-29 Super Tucano is the "Creme de la creme of COIN attack fighter aircraft " This to me is an elaborate marketing ploy given to insignificant and inconsequential poor third world associates not partners.

Using a Yahoo boy term please correct me if i get it wrong, "Guy man chop, Moogo fall"

There is nothing to compare, one is battle tested proven, reliable, rugged ,resilient, bigger payload (triple the A29) and established with stupendous survival under fire, well over four decades, and can even run on poor grade fuel including petrol doesn't need complicated ground control avionics to get airborne.

They are two totally different aircraft so its a failed comparison.

But the crucial issue is we need aircraft in the NE, RIGHT NOW like yesterday not in 4 years time.

If I had $100 million, we could have 12 Sukhoi Su-25 within two week operational and 24 in 4/5 weeks all turning Boko to dust, that would be a complete game changer.

IMO not just my opinion, I know this war is very political and the fifth columnist are not in the rank and file of Nigerian armed forces but somewhere way higher up.

my two pennies , NUFF SAID

komekn:


I am sorely disappointed, you have been a contributor here for a very long time.

My approach was methodological and substantive and quite specific, but you have not addressed one question or observation i made, you have just EVADED.

Its your choice.

You even go on to make future projections but founded on nothing, let me burst your future projections.

THE FUTURE in the Middle east is UAV that can give special forces Over-watch with 48 hour endurance and still deliver precision ordinances. Not the outdated A29, not even one USA Middle east partner has procured it. That should tell you something.

QuietMynd:

Wat , u jst call tucano outdated

QuietMynd:

Wat , u jst call tucano outdated

QuietMynd:

Wat , u jst call tucano outdated

Toju200:
all our drones are active and still used for combat..
The three JF17 is first batch we are acquiring 25-40 of it I'll provide u Link
We bought 5 UCAV
We are developing our own combat drone the Ichoku UAV
We are also considering acquiring MIG and yak 130 I'll still provide link.
Don't say what u don't know

BabaOwen:
which of the MIG's?

BabaOwen:
which of the MIG's?

Toju200:
here is the link
Nigeria to buy Russian MiG, Yak- 130 fighters, artillery equipment ...
https://nationalaccordnewspaper.com › ni...

Toju200:
Here is something for y'all to read: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2020/04/x-raying-nigerian-armys-unmatched-record-in-counter-terrorism/

Sizzorkay:

Hope you aren't falling for that lol. Trump? ha, you know what the West does best? They patronize you to your face while trashing you behind closed doors. What expertise.
The article is full of history but short on current reality, and that reality is, too many errors and setbacks in the North East

Toju200:
yeah I know say u go confront me
I wan find trouble

QuietMynd:

Wat , u jst call tucano outdated

Sizzorkay:
Haha, you be my guy bro, no hard feelings here. Your enthusiasm on here is impressive, I'm on your side
It's just painful how much our soldiers have been let down by the higher ups, it's upsetting.

Toju200:
the russkies with their Sukhois are they winning in Syria..
ISIS destroyed three yesterday in Syria I'm case u don't know

BabaOwen:
Are you saying the Russians and Syrians are losing in Syria or is a draw match between Russians/Syrians versus IS/rebels/USA/Turkey

You must be a joker

bidex111:


Sorry your approach is far from been methodological. It’s not my choice, the Super Tucano is the best COIN air assets we’ve got in the world . Soon in the Middle East the tucanos will take of the skies.
Now kindly give me just two drones you know that would stay in the air for over 24hours and with payloads to carry out precision strikes, you just show you don’t know what you’re talking about.
If there is any future, it’s with the Super Tucano which can carry out ISR missions of over 10 hours and variety of payload of precision strikes which the drones can’t carry.
Dude don’t be disappointed in me cause am human, you’ll disappointed yourself already with your comments.

kabe1:


As Komken continues to pass his usual misinformation, here attached is an aircraft similar in role US allies in the middle-east operate.

This Air Tractor although inferior in capabilities to the A-29 Super Tucano, is used by UAE and Egypt.

Also remember US special forces are going to get 76 units of Super Tucano.

jpphilips:


You are the only person that came close to understanding what the US went to do in Afghanistan, the rest were busy saying what they think, not uncommon here though.

US went to Afghanistan to degrade the Taliban, ensure their Alqaeda allies no longer have the capability to pull a hit on US soil after 9/11.
You can go back and listen to George bush address to the nation in 2001.

The last time I checked, that Objective was met with minimal casualties, one of the least in modern history, reason some keyboard warriors are struggling to pull out a better stats.

Haven met the primary Objective, there was global pressure to stabilize & rebuild Afghanistan, that gave birth to a secondary Objective which the likes of former US defense secretary Jim Mattis believe will not be achieved with the barrel.

It is irritating to read from comedians here that the US primary Objective wasn't met with overwhelming firepower.
Even the Taliban themselves have forgotten their terror projection agenda, they are now interested in local politics to control provinces & earn seats in Parliament, that's how useless they have become, thanks to the US "flawed strategy" according to some women here.

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ugo4u:

Had it being I hadn't seen things myself prolly one would have believed the garbage you've being typing since.
Once again you're very very ignorant, any senior Airforce officer that was incharge of procurements reads these your post they'll not only be stunned at the confidence in ignorance but also you're knack for stupidity & puerility.

komekn:


It's pertinent to keep my comments in context.

The context was "Future projected" aircraft that will dominate in near future. I was contending the view given by Bidexiii that the A29 is the future of COIN.

I gave a projection where future UAV will dominate with 40 hr coverage, to do over watch and other mission support duties for ground troops.

I was totally wrong in my futuristic assumptions.

That future is already here and exceeded .

komekn:


I apologise in giving you misleading information.

Particularly in the context of " The future of COIN aircraft is the A29" which you claimed is the way forward.

My assertion was that the future for COIN is going to be UAV's that can give you 40 hour coverage and overwatch with ability to drop precision ordinances and smart weapons. I reiterate I said that's the future.

I was sorely wrong.

Because that assumption of future projection is already HERE .

A quick look at a few defence resources and l was quite shocked at the speed of R%D that had now gone forward into production and actual deployment.

The one that shocked me the most was the UAE Adcom Systems, Yabhon United 40. The figures are 1000kg payload and 100 hours flytime with 26k ceiling, endurance that's crazy stupendous to me. Algerian airforce has two.

However, l don't think the UAE had the command and control infrastructural technology for long distance control. So it may be control within a 400-600km limit.

There are quite a few UAV's that carry huge payloads and exceed the 40 hr coverage. I've done two screenshot for your info.

What we don't know is how much they cost.

The now battle tested and proven Turkish Anka has a 24hr endurance and 500kg payload. Tunisia just signed a contract last month. For 6 Anka attack drones and 3 ground control stations which amounts to $240 million, the infrastructure for a ground control station will be millions. The UAV's were about $4 million each, but now battle tested and proven they can probably double that to $8-10 million.

The British Skyguardian has some very impressive attributes as well. 40 hour endurance but a shocking payload of near 2000kg of smart weapon and precision ordinances.

Your question ❓ prompted me to take a deeper look, thank you.