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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by newafricaken254: 6:07am On Feb 23, 2018 |
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by patches689: 7:38am On Feb 23, 2018 |
Frumentum: lol, people are so happy that Zuma is gone... yet they dont see the writing on the wall. Sure, Zuma stole from us... but Cyril is going to destroy us. Mark my words. SA's rainfall is predicted to drop by 40% over the next 25 years. Cyril (either by choice, or because of the party) is going to push forward with expropriation without compensation. 90% of previously transferred farms have failed (completely). Expropriation will also wipe about 133 billion of Rand's of assets from the banking sector (commercial farmers owe huge amounts to the banks) so there wont be any capital left to re-invest in Agriculture. Add it up. The Zimbabwe analogy is a fallacy, what is coming our way is worse - inconceivably worse. Zimbabwe is a rural country, Zimbabwe has a prosperous neighbor to the South. When their farming sector went belly-up and food scarcity hit, their urban population could simply return to the country side for a subsistence life-style, or head South to RSA. We dont have those options - we are an urbanized country with poor neighbors - you are going to have starving and unemployed masses in the cities, many of which will also be facing water scarcity. Its going to get fvcking nasty fvcking quickly. Hell, and Im not even going to mention the new mining charter - which seems to want to recreate the same Apartheid sanctions that killed the mining sector (and brought the NP to the negotiation chamber), or the new Minimum Wage act (Treasury estimates it will cause potential job losses* for 45% of primary educated labour, 43% of agricultural labour, 52% of private households, about 40% of all full-time workers, 45% of full-time clothing workers, 82% of full-time workers in the agricultural sector, 87% of full-time domestic workers). To be honest, the party is over. Im going to stay over-seas for the next decade or so - busy working on getting residency in the US atm. Ill wait it out, and work myself to death in a Corporate hell-scape. But when all the new farms have failed, sail in with a pocket-full of USD and buy a nice big slice of land on the cheap. Use that land to leverage a loan from the bank and then buy up another big slice of land. Then sit on it and wait for the sector to recover and sell it off for a nice profit. Ironically, my great grandfather made a small fortune doing the exact same thing in the aftermath of the Boer war. Its very risky, but the deep irony of a White fella turning this racist land redistribution strategy into a way to generate a tidy sum of money, while the "beneficiaries" of the redistribution get plunged into generations of suffering is just too juicy to resist. There are safer investments, but fvck me, nothing gets me going like a good dose of JUSTICE. *that % of jobs will now be "at risk", ie: potentially no longer economically viable. 1 Like |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by doziex: 8:12am On Feb 23, 2018 |
Gentlemen, Paul Biya and Idrys deby have been spoiling for a fight with nigeria for some time now. This aggressive francophone posture,while officially doing business with nigeria comes from the top. Not junior overly ambitious officers. PMB, general buratai and the Nigerian congress should please wake up to this threat We cannot control what the francophonies and the French do but we can control our own actions. QUIT the ostrich mentality, and re equip our armed forces for potential war They are driving up their Chinese made apcs to scare our border guards because they know that ours are in disrepair, sputtering in the north east or in boko harams junk yard. Corruption and a poor national security orientation has conspired to bring us to this lowly state we find ourselves Only a very effective, all encompassing military build up/ spending would reverse our current humiliating state. 3 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 8:18am On Feb 23, 2018 |
patches689:Land distribution without compensation will lead to war, unlike Zim the white population in SA is much larger and much better armed than there Zim counter parts. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by patches689: 8:54am On Feb 23, 2018 |
jln115: Land is not worth dying (or killing for). Its just dirt. We live on a planet full of dirt. SA and the majority seem determined on economic ruin. Fine, they were warned of the consequences, they still want it, let them have it. There are plenty of African nations that have already learnt this lesson and are keen on doing business - great agricultural opportunities in Zambia, Tanzania, Kenya, Angola, Uganda, Nigeria and the DRC. Anecdotally, I went to uni with a Zimbo whos family had lost practically everything in the early 2000's - her father made a deal with a provincial governor in Malawi to farm macadamia nuts and by the time I met her (2008) her family was wealthier than they had ever been in Zimbabwe, and by all accounts the locals in Malawi were thrilled to have them there while the government had been very supportive of them. SA farmers should be looking at making similar deals with other governments - just look at the greatly beneficial relationship former Zimbo farmers have established with the Zambian government. Just 100 farmers increased Zambias maze crop by 70% in one year and during a drought and are now moving onto cash crops, lifting 2,5 million Zambians out of food-insecurity. http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/11/white-farmers-thrive-zambia-years-driven-zimbabwe-171123140704208.html South African farmers could repeat this success all across Africa, lifting millions out of food shortages, generating huge revenues for sensible African governments (such as Kenya, Tanzania and Zambia) and providing jobs to many tens of thousands of low-skill workers currently stuck in the poverty-trap. We could become a key player in Africa's renaissance. fok hierdie plek, dis tyd om te trek 2 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by patches689: 9:04am On Feb 23, 2018 |
Sorry for the de-railment guys. I will start a dedicated thread for this topic - please hold responses to my above posts (I will move them as well). |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by patches689: 9:10am On Feb 23, 2018 |
SA armed forces demonstrations https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl8K81Cvy20 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcyfIZgjxG0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLBZCkD5pJI 1 Like |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 9:31am On Feb 23, 2018 |
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by jpphilips(m): 9:58am On Feb 23, 2018 |
Sizzorkay: By annexing Southern Cameroon or helping the rebel leadership, Nigeria has become the aggressor, refer again to Russia vs Crimea, despite the Crimea parliament vote (wish of the people), the case was decided on Article 2.4 where Russia was found guilty, in return, sanctions rained on Russia, there is already a precedence here so you can slide in the best guess for the end of the road. It is pretty safe to assume France will help Cameroon at the UNSC because they already have a defense pact and Cameroon hasn't jeopardized that yet, Russia will help Nigeria based on what exactly? |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by tdayof(m): 10:35am On Feb 23, 2018 |
jpphilips: Nigeria will never accept separist because the same country has crackdown on separist group in its territory. We're not even Russia who can protect herself. Only if our military was well equipped, can we want to play the aggression game. air defence systems? Fighter jets? It's better to avoid a war by closing our borders against the separist group. When the crack down is getting too much, amnesty and the United Nations should be the one to save the people and not us. 1 Like |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by newafricaken254: 11:23am On Feb 23, 2018 |
jln115:the problem with africa is that we have leaders who look for simple solutions for complex problems.free education while you are having a poorly funded,deteriorating public education system,we need leader who come up with smart solution for growing youthful population 2 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Jkay187(m): 12:06pm On Feb 23, 2018 |
patches689: You're sounding more like a racist bigot. 1 Like |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 12:20pm On Feb 23, 2018 |
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 12:22pm On Feb 23, 2018 |
newafricaken254: Except that the public education system is well funded, at least in SA. It's how the money's used that results in such poor outcomes. Facts matter. 1 Like
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by patches689: 1:02pm On Feb 23, 2018 |
Jkay187: Not a single thing I said was racist, not once did I mention race in any way. My post was carefully and specifically crafted to explicitly avoid the issue of race. But since you have opened the door, let me walk through it: the reason I feel so strongly about this issue is specifically because a policy that strips land from people based purely on the color their skin, a mere accident of birth, is racist and deeply immoral. It was evil when the Apartheid government did it, and it is evil now. And if they wish to commit a sin, make no mistake, I intend to profit from it. 3 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 1:10pm On Feb 23, 2018 |
newafricaken254:Africaken, i never thought the day would come where i actually 100% agree with you!! IMO the best way to fix inequality(And actually most of the problems in the country) is through a proper, efficient, well funded education system!.........Knowledge is power. The fact is most of SA has been left uneducated thanks to apartheid, and the ANC unfortunately has focused to much on BEE and AA , which although nice in theory, there simply isn't enough skilled people of colour to meet the Governments expectations/demands.....hence leaving the door open for all sorts of corruption ect ect and also the fact that only the elite few get all the contracts/vacancies and the majority of Black SANs live in poverty. If Government can just supply proper education to the masses, which would allow individuals to understand and manage their own enterprises, as well as setting up a policy where by in stead of trying to get these individuals in to existing businesses through BEE, but rather supplying the necessary resources for them to start their own companies, one would never need BBE or AA since the majority of businesses will be black owned anyway. IMO BEE and AA (how its implemented now) is counter productive, people that are more qualified are either not hired or even retrenched in favor of a less qualified individual, Im not saying get rid of BEE(for now anyway) but at least implement it in a way that's not so counter productive. 1 Like |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by patches689: 1:14pm On Feb 23, 2018 |
newafricaken254: Free education in itself only makes the matter worse. Its not meerly bad decision making, its populist decision making. As the economist Milton Freidman argued: the only group that benefits from free university education is the group that least needs it, that is, the middle-class. This is so as those whom are most likely to go on to University are those same people for whom the education system allready works - ask yourself, who is it (generally) who goes to College? Is it the poor child, who grows up in a marginalized area fulled with vice and failed schools or is it the wealthy child who grows up in the suburbs and has access to quality public or private education? When you implement free university education you will arrive at an absurd destination where the working class is subsidizing, through taxes, the education of the middle-class. The systemic failures in Africa, and the hinderances to Africas growth (which should outstrip that of China or Indias) is failed socialist thinking and policy. If any of you are interested in this line of argument - that of why Africa has failed to reach its true potential - I recommend the work of George Ayittey the Ghanaian economist and intellectual. Here is an example of the core theme of his arguments: https://fee.org/resources/betrayal-why-socialism-failed-in-africa/ 1 Like |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Jkay187(m): 1:16pm On Feb 23, 2018 |
patches689: Maak n ander thread dan kan ons mekaar daar gaan skop skiet en doner my friend. Anyway I have my own views on the subject and its the total opposite. This issue is more then just land restitution. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by patches689: 1:20pm On Feb 23, 2018 |
jln115: BEE and AA is equally as immoral as much of the policy of the Apartheid regime and as such must be revoked or amended - anything that favours one group over another, based on nothing more than their sex and skin-tone, is unconscionable. If the language in BEE or AA were amended to favor the poor based solely on economic worth and not on race, it would still be tremendously destructive and prevent us from achieving meaningful growth, but it would at least not be immoral. 1 Like |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by patches689: 1:33pm On Feb 23, 2018 |
Jkay187: new thread https://www.nairaland.com/4364485/land-reform-south-africa-discuss |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 1:58pm On Feb 23, 2018 |
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 2:02pm On Feb 23, 2018 |
patches689:Undoing an evil act is an evil act ? When apartheid government did it they stole land that belonged to helpless individuals! You think those poor black farmers were compensated, the approach today may be wrong and personally I don’t believe anyone should feel sorry or be punished for the actions of their ancestors but common man you can’t judge it as an evil act. If tomorrow African government covertly sponsored night raids to recover artifacts stolen and put on display in museums by colonizers in UK, France etc... basically taking back their property will that be deemed by you as an “evil act” as well ? 6 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by newafricaken254: 2:56pm On Feb 23, 2018 |
patches689:in kenya the quality of public education has detoriated so much,that for a long time that we have seen a rapid growth of private school.the middle class and the rich in kenya have realise their kids have no future in under staffed,over grounded,lacking resources public school.the government will promise free education but you will still see kids learning under tree,teachers striking because of salaries e.t.c just imagine a class teacher with 60 to 100 kids !we need to stop this socialist culture of demand free things,i remember when our government start the free primary education.this guy being interviewed by a local media station said now he was going to marry 2 more wives. africans need to wake up and realise we are facing the fourth industrial revolution,we aren't lucky like the chinese(who industrialized using cheap labour)if we continue doing things ,the way we are doing them.we should expect only chaos 1 Like |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Sizzorkay: 3:10pm On Feb 23, 2018 |
Properly read what i wrote, which land did Nigeria annexed? Which rebel leader from Cameroon did Nigeria helped? I said as long as Nigeria isn't the aggressor , that is, didn't start the fight, France won't jump in and start bombing Nigeria. They aren't morons. Just because you have a defense pact with another country doesn't mean you pick a fight at will and expect that country to come to your aid when you've bitten more than you could chew. And yes Russia will back Nigeria in the UNSC if Nigeria wasn't the aggressor, it's called diplomacy, and they most likely will, hell they will even sell us weapons if we are to ever get into a fight with Cameroon, sure that's business, and that's also why they are most likely to have our back at the UNSC. Russia doesn't tow some dotted line, you should know that. jpphilips: |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by jpphilips(m): 3:23pm On Feb 23, 2018 |
Sizzorkay: Your suggestion in your penultimate post makes Nigeria the aggressor, doesn't matter if you understand that, Russia will help Nigeria because of Diplomacy? really? and you know this how? any precedence? |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by jpphilips(m): 3:25pm On Feb 23, 2018 |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by olapluto(m): 3:35pm On Feb 23, 2018 |
jpphilips:Believe me, we must rank top in having the most incompetent administrators in the world. In fact, BHT should demand our central bank now. Politics has eaten our brains rotten! Civilians will die, soldiers will die, BHT will die, we will lose money simply out of negligence. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Xbee007(m): 4:15pm On Feb 23, 2018 |
jpphilips:It's obvious that BHTs succeeded in kidnapping those students. That is their new found money mine. How much million of Euro/dollars are they going to request for this time around ![]() This administration alone has paid billions of naira in cash to the terrorists. They have freed dozens of hardened Boko Haram commanders in captivity. To make matter worse, they are releasing in droves ex-BHTs in captivity tagging them "repentant ex-members." How are they sure they would not just go back to their terrorism business? 1 Like |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by patches689: 4:30pm On Feb 23, 2018 |
jakeporeshenko: other thread, my dude. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by olapluto(m): 4:56pm On Feb 23, 2018 |
More Dapchi details: http://saharareporters.com/2018/02/23/how-boko-haram-attack-kidnap-dapchi-schoolgirls-occurred-%E2%80%93-residents-school-staff “It was about prayer time, and we were in the mosque when we began to hear sounds of vehicles moving at unusual speed around the streets,” he said. 90 girls. New bargaining power for a weakening BHT. So DSS, NPF, Army, Airforce, Civil defence, etc were all sleeping for the whole of 3 hours? 1 Like |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by tdayof(m): 5:06pm On Feb 23, 2018 |
olapluto: Different reports. Like I have said until bokoharam release a video. I keep saying it, if the military cannot respond to an attack within 45 minutes maximum in the north east, then policing is very bad. This is the same issue we have with the police force. Response time should be improved. 1 Like |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 5:07pm On Feb 23, 2018 |
The Chief of Army Staff Lieutenant General Tukur Yusufu Buratai is operationalizes 17 Brigade Nigerian Army Katsina 1 Like
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