Moses in the Quran

The following are the explanations of the quran given by an islamic cleric about Moses. He used the Bible account to narrate the Quran even though he didn't insert biblical quotes there, I did.. If you removed the bible account, the quranic quotes become meaningless.

Infancy

In line with the Judaic view, we find out from the Quran that when Prophet Moses (pbuh) was born in Egypt, his life was in great danger as the Pharoah was persecuting the Israelites.

Truly Pharaoh elated himself in the land and broke up its people into sections depressing a group among them: their sons he slew, but he kept alive their females: for he was indeed a maker of mischief. (Quran 28:4)

Where is “he was born in Egypt” in that quranic quote?

What caused Pharaoh to be elated and slew their sons?

Whose sons as no Israelites was mentioned in the quranic quote?

Therefore, Moses’s mother was greatly worried about her son’s fate; then, the Quran specifies that God inspired her to take an unlikely action:

So We sent this inspiration to the mother of Moses: “Suckle (thy child) but when thou hast fears about him cast him, into the river, but fear not nor grieve: for We shall restore him to thee, and We shall make him one of Our messengers.” (Quran 28:7)

Moses’s sister hid and kept watch on the progress of her brother across the river. While the Torah maintains that the Pharoah’s daughter adopted Moses, the Quran differs. In fact, the Pharoah’s wife insisted that they adopt him (Exodus 2:2-4).

The wife of Pharaoh said: “(Here is) a joy of the eye for me and for thee: slay him not. It may be that he will be of use to us, or we may adopt him as a son.” And they perceived not (what they were doing)! (Quran 28:9)

Where is it stated in that quote that Moses’s sister hid and kept watch on the progress of her brother across the river in that quranic quote?

When Moses (pbuh) was hungry, he refused to nurse from any of the foster mothers provided for him. At this point, Moses’s sister posing as a bystander suggested she could bring someone who may be successful in feeding him; unbeknownst to his rescuers, she brought his own mother, a point mentioned in Exodus of the Torah as well. Of course, Moses readily nursed from her and the two were thus rejoined (Exodus 2:7-.

Thus did We restore him to his mother that her eye might be comforted, that she might not grieve and that she might know that the promise of Allah is true: but most of them do not understand. (Quran 28:13)

How was he restored, does that verse give the above narration?


Adulthood

Moses grew up in Pharoah’s home and was well-acquainted with the state affairs. When he reached adulthood, he once intervened in a fight between an Israelite and an Egyptian, killing the latter inadvertently. The Quran mentions that guilt consumed him and he asked God to forgive him; fearing for his life, he fled and migrated to Madian, where he found refuge in a household by marrying one of the daughters and serving her father (Exodus 2:10-11).

After some time, Moses returned to Egypt with his family. On the way, near Mount Tur, he saw a fire, and he proceeded towards it.

But when he came to the (Fire), a voice was heard from the right bank of the valley, from a tree in hallowed ground: “O Moses! Verily I am Allah the Lord of the Worlds…” (Quran 28:30)

How does that verse give the above biblical narration?

Where was he going and what was he doing before he came to the Fire?

Moses showed his unwavering faith in God when he led his followers to the Red Sea – Pharoah’s army was behind them, and the open sea in front (Exodus 14:21-28):

And when the two bodies saw each other, the people of Moses said: “We are sure to be overtaken.” (Moses) said: “By no means! My Lord is with me! Soon will He guide me!” Then We told Moses by inspiration: “Strike the sea with thy rod.” So it divided, and each separate part became like the huge, firm mass of a mountain. And We made the other party approach thither. We delivered Moses and all who were with him; but We drowned the others. Verily in this is a Sign: but most of them do not believe. And verily thy Lord is He, the Exalted in Might, Most Merciful. (Quran 26:61-68)

What was the preceding events that took place before the Istraelites were permitted by Pharaoh to leave Egypt?

In the Quran, God says that He spoke directly to Moses, but when he requested to see Him, God cast His reflected glory over a mountain and it turned to dust, causing Moses to faint (7:143). Over a period of forty nights, God revealed religious knowledge to Moses and chose him to continue to lead his people.

And We ordained laws for him in the Tablets in all matters, both commanding and explaining all things (and said): “Take these and hold these with firmness, and enjoin thy people to hold fast by the best in the precepts.” (Quran 7:145)

Moses was given Laws in Chapter 7 but was born in Chapter 28. Meaning he was given the Laws before he was born.

Chronological arrangement of the quran is terrible and it is believed to be deliberately so to mislead mankind.

Where was he given the Laws?

http://www.whyislam.org/submission/the-holy-quran/story-of-moses-in-the-quran/

I totally agree with you @op..

The point you keep forgetting/ omitting is that there are TWO sources of Islamic tenets. The Quran, and the HADITH... the weakest of which is stronger in authenticity than your entire O/N testaments. So keep that in mind when you want to know how Hauwa was born or Musa was called or Sulaiman was accused, or Isa was saved from an ignoble death (May Allah be pleased with them all).

rephrase yourself in a way that you really want to know more about quran, approach it with an open mind, am sure by then you will get the best.

Abuamam:
The point you keep forgetting/ omitting is that there are TWO sources of Islamic tenets. The Quran, and the HADITH... the weakest of which is stronger in authenticity than your entire O/N testaments. So keep that in mind when you want to know how Hauwa was born or Musa was called or Sulaiman was accused, or Isa was saved from an ignoble death (May Allah be pleased with them all).

The quran is so disjointed and scanty. It would talk about Moses in chapter 7 only to continue in chapter 28 mixing it with unrelated issues. No account of any events was given with perfect details it deserves.

Hadith? They are said to be words of Muhammad, written so many years after he had died. If the words of Muhammad are not in the quran, how do you want to put it there? My point is: allah didn't speak of any event in the quran with detail and accuracy to make people understand him.

No wonder it has hidden meanings not known to muslims:

[Quran 3:7] He it is Who has sent down to thee the Book: In it are verses basic or fundamental (of established meaning); they are the foundation of the Book: others are allegorical. But those in whose hearts is perversity follow the part thereof that is allegorical, seeking discord, and searching for its hidden meanings, but no one knows its hidden meanings except Allah. And those who are firmly grounded in knowledge say: "We believe in the Book; the whole of it is from our Lord:" and none will grasp the Message except men of understanding

Why should the meaning be hidden from muslims if not to deceive them?

afolag:
rephrase yourself in a way that you really want to know more about quran, approach it with an open mind, am sure by then you will get the best.

Do you know the quran? Give details of Moses in it from his birth to his death and let's see.

truthman2012:


The quran is so disjointed and scanty. It would talk about Moses in chapter 7 only to continue in chapter 28 mixing it with unrelated issues. No account of any events was given with perfect details it deserves.

Hadith? They are said to be words of Muhammad, written so many years after he had died. If the words of Muhammad are not in the quran, how do you want to put it there? My point is: allah didn't speak of any event in the quran with detail and accuracy to make people understand him.

No wonder it has hidden meanings not known to muslims:

[Quran 3:7] He it is Who has sent down to thee the Book: In it are verses basic or fundamental (of established meaning); they are the foundation of the Book: others are allegorical. But those in whose hearts is perversity follow the part thereof that is allegorical, seeking discord, and searching for its hidden meanings, but no one knows its hidden meanings except Allah. And those who are firmly grounded in knowledge say: "We believe in the Book; the whole of it is from our Lord:" and none will grasp the Message except men of understanding

Why should the meaning be hidden from muslims if not to deceive them?

The proper interpretation is...

"It is He who has sent down to you, [O Muhammad], the Book; in it are verses [that are] precise - they are the foundation of the Book - and others unspecific. As for those in whose hearts is deviation [from truth], they will follow that of it which is unspecific, seeking discord and seeking an interpretation [suitable to them]. And no one knows its [true] interpretation except Allah . But those firm in knowledge say, "We believe in it. All [of it] is from our Lord." And no one will be reminded except those of understanding." Quran 3:7

The verse is trying to point out that there are verses that are precise... do not worship any deity other than Allah, do not drink alcohol or eat prohibited pork, do not gamble and avoid usury, spend of your wealth on the poor and the orphans and the wayfarers, enjoin truth and justice...etc. These are precise and clear, and no Muslim in his right mind will claim that gambling or pork is permitted in Islam, or that helping orphans or being just is prohibited.

On the other hand, there are verses that deviants use; giving them interpretations that suit their deviations... the way you yourself (along with BH and other xtian and Muslim extremists), arbitrarily quote the Quran out of context, or give literal meaning to a figure of speech, just to align it with your personal view of Islam. And on the Day of Judgement, Allah will judge between those deviants who seek to misinterprete any verse they can in servitude to their whims and desires, and those who say... it is all from Allah, and accept the interpretations narrated to us by the prophet (saw) from Allah if available. We are silent on others not given, like the nature of Allah's throne, the form of the angels, or the whereabouts of Heaven and Hell...etc; which Allah alone knows, and the knowledge of which; or lack thereof; neither adds to nor subtracts from, our hope of salvation in the hereafter.

truthman2012:


Do you know the quran? Give details of Moses in it from his birth to his death and let's see.

if am able to narrate the story of moses then what does that make me. His teachings is what is of value to muslims.He came to preach about the one and only true God who people should submit to. Telling pharaoh that thre is only 1 God, he came at the time when magic was the order of the day so he was given one... a staff he could turned to anything by Allah permission. To clearify that when at the sea quran made it known that he doesnt know what to do may be is in the bible too. That will tell you those prophets never do things by thier name. "pharoah was told of the prophecy he ordered the killing of male child, when he was born God sent a message to his mother to get a box and placed him, cutting a long story short he end up in the hse of pharoah raised as the son of the king but when he came with the message that there is one true God the whole issue change, magic was the paramount thing at the time so God gave him a staff to clear pples doubt.A stage was prepared where pharoah ordered for tge convergence of all the great wizards in the land, moses didnt know wat to do but a mesaage got to him to drop the staff, he won the contest yet pharaoh didnt believe until the red sea issue.May Allah forgive me whereever I go wrong quran i dont know about his death I never come across reference been made to it but I will ask, References are always made to the other books to give insight and this as helped us know more about the prophets and happenings before mohammed may Allah blessings be on all of them.
What was the message all about according to your religion?
In islam it was about the ONe true God.

Abuamam:


The proper interpretation is...

"It is He who has sent down to you, [O Muhammad], the Book; in it are verses [that are] precise - they are the foundation of the Book - and others unspecific. As for those in whose hearts is deviation [from truth], they will follow that of it which is unspecific, seeking discord and seeking an interpretation [suitable to them]. And no one knows its [true] interpretation except Allah . But those firm in knowledge say, "We believe in it. All [of it] is from our Lord." And no one will be reminded except those of understanding." Quran 3:7

The verse is trying to point out that there are verses that are precise... do not worship any deity other than Allah, do not drink alcohol or eat prohibited pork, do not gamble and avoid usury, spend of your wealth on the poor and the orphans and the wayfarers, enjoin truth and justice...etc. These are precise and clear, and no Muslim in his right mind will claim that gambling or pork is permitted in Islam, or that helping orphans or being just is prohibited.

On the other hand, there are verses that deviants use; giving them interpretations that suit their deviations... the way you yourself (along with BH and other xtian and Muslim extremists), arbitrarily quote the Quran out of context, or give literal meaning to a figure of speech, just to align it with your personal view of Islam. And on the Day of Judgement, Allah will judge between those deviants who seek to misinterprete any verse they can in servitude to their whims and desires, and those who say... it is all from Allah, and accept the interpretations narrated to us by the prophet (saw) from Allah if available. We are silent on others not given, like the nature of Allah's throne, the form of the angels, or the whereabouts of Heaven and Hell...etc; which Allah alone knows, and the knowledge of which; or lack thereof; neither adds to nor subtracts from, our hope of salvation in the hereafter.

Your explanations do not change the point am making.

''No one knows the true interpretation except allah''. If only allah knows the true interpretation, how is it useful for you?

afolag:

if am able to narrate the story of moses then what does that make me. His teachings is what is of value to muslims.He came to preach about the one and only true God who people should submit to. Telling pharaoh that thre is only 1 God, he came at the time when magic was the order of the day so he was given one... a staff he could turned to anything by Allah permission. To clearify that when at the sea quran made it known that he doesnt know what to do may be is in the bible too. That will tell you those prophets never do things by thier name. "pharoah was told of the prophecy he ordered the killing of male child, when he was born God sent a message to his mother to get a box and placed him, cutting a long story short he end up in the hse of pharoah raised as the son of the king but when he came with the message that there is one true God the whole issue change, magic was the paramount thing at the time so God gave him a staff to clear pples doubt.A stage was prepared where pharoah ordered for tge convergence of all the great wizards in the land, moses didnt know wat to do but a mesaage got to him to drop the staff, he won the contest yet pharaoh didnt believe until the red sea issue.May Allah forgive me whereever I go wrong quran i dont know about his death I never come across reference been made to it but I will ask, References are always made to the other books to give insight and this as helped us know more about the prophets and happenings before mohammed may Allah blessings be on all of them.
What was the message all about according to your religion?
In islam it was about the ONe true God.

First, the one true God you are emphasizing is not allah. The Jews talk about one true God, yet Muhammad was killing them. The Jews's one true God was who everybody knew before Muhammad. Note how long one true God had been dealing with the Jews prior to the coming of Muhammad and when he came, he declared war on them. Is the Jews' one true God and Muhammad's one true God the same? If yes, why was he killing them? You should now discover that Muhammad's problem was not one-God issue, his god was an enemy to the God of the Jews.

Besides, if you don't need to know about other prophets in details, why did your god mention them at all? Half knowledge is worse than ignorance.

truthman2012:


Your explanations do not change the point am making.

''No one knows the true interpretation except allah''. If only allah knows the true interpretation, how is it useful for you?

Abuamam:

We are silent on others not given, like the nature of Allah's throne, the form of the angels, or the whereabouts of Heaven and Hell...etc; which Allah Alone knows, AND THE KNOWLEDGE OF WHICH; OR LACK THEREOF; NEITHER ADDS TO, NOR SUBTRACTS FROM, OUR HOPE OF SALVATION IN THE HEREAFTER.

I capitalised the relevant part for you.

Abuamam:




I capitalised the relevant part for you.

We are silent on others not given, like the nature of Allah's throne, the form of the angels, or the whereabouts of Heaven and Hell...etc; which Allah Alone knows, AND THE KNOWLEDGE OF WHICH; OR LACK THEREOF; NEITHER ADDS TO, NOR SUBTRACTS FROM, OUR HOPE OF SALVATION IN THE HEREAFTER.

Says who? No reference.

Where did allah give such description or narration, which only him alone knows the interpretation?

"It is He who has sent down to you, [O Muhammad], the Book; in it are verses [that are] precise - they are the foundation of the Book - and others unspecific. As for those in whose hearts is deviation [from truth], they will follow that of it which is unspecific, seeking discord and seeking an interpretation [suitable to them]. And no one knows its [true] interpretation except Allah . But those firm in knowledge say, "We believe in it. All [of it] is from our Lord." And no one will be reminded except those of understanding." Quran 3:7

No doubt, the verse is talking about interpretation of the whole quran.

truthman2012:



Says who? No reference.

Where did allah give such description or narration, which only him alone knows the interpretation?

"It is He who has sent down to you, [O Muhammad], the Book; in it are verses [that are] precise - they are the foundation of the Book - and others unspecific. As for those in whose hearts is deviation [from truth], they will follow that of it which is unspecific, seeking discord and seeking an interpretation [suitable to them]. And no one knows its [true] interpretation except Allah . But those firm in knowledge say, "We believe in it. All [of it] is from our Lord." And no one will be reminded except those of understanding." Quran 3:7

No doubt, the verse is talking about interpretation of the whole quran.

Ok. We have gotten to our usual stage in which I explain and you deliberately play dumb and ask the same question in a hundred different ways.

I will give you one verse as 'reference'. Then I will unfollow this thread, because I know from experience that, once you get to this 'playing dumb' stage, it becomes a waste of time explaining to you...

Allah says...

""Allah! There is no god but He - the Living, The Self-subsisting, Eternal. No slumber can seize Him Nor Sleep. His are all things In the heavens and on earth. Who is there can intercede In His presence except As he permitteth? He knoweth What (appeareth to His creatures As) Before or After or Behind them. Nor shall they encompass Aught of his knowledge Except as He willeth. HIS THRONE DOTH EXTEND OVER THE HEAVENS AND EARTH, and He feeleth No fatigue in guarding And preserving them, For He is the Most High. The Supreme (in glory).""
[Surah al-Baqarah 2: 255]

The capitalised part is an example. We know and affirm and believe that His Throne extends over the Heavens and Earth, as He stated. However, we do not speculate as to the material that the Throne is made of, or its shape or structure, or position; for that is hidden from us by Allah since we do not need such knowledge for our salvation. Some deviant groups however, go on to make analytical thesis on just such questions, and it is to such people that Allah refers as having deviation in their hearts. Such examples are many.

I hope you are clear now. Because this is the best I can do to make you understand.

Good day/ night.

truthman2012:


Your explanations do not change the point am making.

''No one knows the true interpretation except allah''. If only allah knows the true interpretation, how is it useful for you?

and this people will open there filty mouth and say the bible is corrupted. Unbelievable!!!

If only the muslims will read the quran and bible very well and see which book give details about abrahamic faith, muslims quote from the quran and say "perfected is the word" and it is the bible that is perfected the quran. I don't even think the quran made mention of ishmael mother.

truthman2012:


First, the one true God you are emphasizing is not allah. The Jews talk about one true God, yet Muhammad was killing them. The Jews's one true God was who everybody knew before Muhammad. Note how long one true God had been dealing with the Jews prior to the coming of Muhammad and when he came, he declared war on them. Is the Jews' one true God and Muhammad's one true God the same? If yes, why was he killing them? You should now discover that Muhammad's problem was not one-God issue, his god was an enemy to the God of the Jews.

Besides, if you don't need to know about other prophets in details, why did your god mention them at all? Half knowledge is worse than ignorance.

Don't take this personal, God sent them books already I mean the people of moses,david and you the Christians quran reffered to you as the pple of the book. No one is a saint here am only trying to let you know what I understand about my religion. there is something call hadith the words and deeds of the prophet they give a better understanding to what God really meant when he say something. several interpretations culd b given to a statement you know, so with this hadith which are the words of the prophet seperated from the holy quran. Brother seriously seek knowledge with an open mind I insist you will better understand why Quran will never be revised till the earth will be no more. As it is 1400years ago so it will be. I pray God forgive all our misdeeds and grant us the abilities to follow is commands.

Abuamam:


Ok. We have gotten to our usual stage in which I explain and you deliberately play dumb and ask the same question in a hundred different ways.

I will give you one verse as 'reference'. Then I will unfollow this thread, because I know from experience that, once you get to this 'playing dumb' stage, it becomes a waste of time explaining to you...

Allah says...

""Allah! There is no god but He - the Living, The Self-subsisting, Eternal. No slumber can seize Him Nor Sleep. His are all things In the heavens and on earth. Who is there can intercede In His presence except As he permitteth? He knoweth What (appeareth to His creatures As) Before or After or Behind them. Nor shall they encompass Aught of his knowledge Except as He willeth. HIS THRONE DOTH EXTEND OVER THE HEAVENS AND EARTH, and He feeleth No fatigue in guarding And preserving them, For He is the Most High. The Supreme (in glory).""
[Surah al-Baqarah 2: 255]

The capitalised part is an example. We know and affirm and believe that His Throne extends over the Heavens and Earth, as He stated. However, we do not speculate as to the material that the Throne is made of, or its shape or structure, or position; for that is hidden from us by Allah since we do not need such knowledge for our salvation. Some deviant groups however, go on to make analytical thesis on just such questions, and it is to such people that Allah refers as having deviation in their hearts. Such examples are many.

I hope you are clear now. Because this is the best I can do to make you understand.

Good day/ night.

You need to quickly run away o!

''HIS THRONE DOTH EXTEND OVER THE HEAVENS AND EARTH''

Is that what is soo spiritually hidden and ambiguos that only allahh knows the interpretation?

What is needed to be interpreted in that statement?

This is the the type of explanations you always give which you expect me to accept.

The other time you needed to give us the islamic source(s) where Moses, Joshua, Isaac, Jacob, Jesus etc visited Kaaba as the resort and sanctuary for ALL MANKIND as there is no such record in the bible and history. Up till now, you could not give the evidence. Would they not go to Kaaba if it was truly built by Abraham? Yet you expect me to accept any explanation you make. No.

malvisguy212:
and this people will open there filty mouth and say the bible is corrupted. Unbelievable!!!

If only the muslims will read the quran and bible very well and see which book give details about abrahamic faith, muslims quote from the quran and say "perfected is the word" and it is the bible that is perfected the quran. I don't even think the quran made mention of ishmael mother.

Don't mind them.

The quran is sooo disjointed and lack sufficient information to reveal the true identity of allahh.

I agree...the koran is just a duplicate of the bible, and highly confusing.

I read your thread on Eve not being in the koran and how the muslims on this section struggled to defend their photocopied book, even going as far as adding eve in bracket to their koran. Truth is without the bible, there would be no koran.

Educative thread.

@op but u sure that quran was copied frm buybull if so show me this verse in buybull and explain this verses arcording to ur buybull

THE PRESERVATION OF PHARAOH'S BODY

We brought the tribe of Israel across the sea, and Pharaoh and his troops pursued them out of tyranny and enmity. Then, when he was on the point of drowning, he [Pharaoh] said: "I believe that there is no god but Him in Whom the tribe of Israel believes. I am one of the Muslims." (Qur'an, 10:90)
However, this last-minute conversion was not accepted, for it was not sincere. According to the Qur'an, Allah exclaimed:
"
What, now! When previously you rebelled and were one of the corrupters?Today we will preserve your body so you can be a Sign for people who come after you. Surely many people are heedless of Our Signs." (Qur'an, 10:91-92)
The information that Pharaoh's corpse would serve as a sign for later generations may be regarded as an indication that his body would not decay. On display in the Royal Mummies Chamber of the Egyptian Museum in Cairo is a mummified body believed to be that of this tyrant. In all likelihood, Pharaoh's body floated to shore after being drowned, was found and mummified by the Egyptians, and then carried to a previously prepared burial chamber.

truthman2012:

Moses in the Quran

The following are the explanations of the quran given by an islamic cleric about Moses. He used the Bible account to narrate the Quran even though he didn't insert biblical quotes there, I did.. If you removed the bible account, the quranic quotes become meaningless.

Infancy

In line with the Judaic view, we find out from the Quran that when Prophet Moses (pbuh) was born in Egypt, his life was in great danger as the Pharoah was persecuting the Israelites.

Truly Pharaoh elated himself in the land and broke up its people into sections depressing a group among them: their sons he slew, but he kept alive their females: for he was indeed a maker of mischief. (Quran 28:4)

Where is “he was born in Egypt” in that quranic quote?

What caused Pharaoh to be elated and slew their sons?

Whose sons as no Israelites was mentioned in the quranic quote?

Therefore, Moses’s mother was greatly worried about her son’s fate; then, the Quran specifies that God inspired her to take an unlikely action:

So We sent this inspiration to the mother of Moses: “Suckle (thy child) but when thou hast fears about him cast him, into the river, but fear not nor grieve: for We shall restore him to thee, and We shall make him one of Our messengers.” (Quran 28:7)

Moses’s sister hid and kept watch on the progress of her brother across the river. While the Torah maintains that the Pharoah’s daughter adopted Moses, the Quran differs. In fact, the Pharoah’s wife insisted that they adopt him (Exodus 2:2-4).

The wife of Pharaoh said: “(Here is) a joy of the eye for me and for thee: slay him not. It may be that he will be of use to us, or we may adopt him as a son.” And they perceived not (what they were doing)! (Quran 28:9)

Where is it stated in that quote that Moses’s sister hid and kept watch on the progress of her brother across the river in that quranic quote?

When Moses (pbuh) was hungry, he refused to nurse from any of the foster mothers provided for him. At this point, Moses’s sister posing as a bystander suggested she could bring someone who may be successful in feeding him; unbeknownst to his rescuers, she brought his own mother, a point mentioned in Exodus of the Torah as well. Of course, Moses readily nursed from her and the two were thus rejoined (Exodus 2:7-.

Thus did We restore him to his mother that her eye might be comforted, that she might not grieve and that she might know that the promise of Allah is true: but most of them do not understand. (Quran 28:13)

How was he restored, does that verse give the above narration?


Adulthood

Moses grew up in Pharoah’s home and was well-acquainted with the state affairs. When he reached adulthood, he once intervened in a fight between an Israelite and an Egyptian, killing the latter inadvertently. The Quran mentions that guilt consumed him and he asked God to forgive him; fearing for his life, he fled and migrated to Madian, where he found refuge in a household by marrying one of the daughters and serving her father (Exodus 2:10-11).

After some time, Moses returned to Egypt with his family. On the way, near Mount Tur, he saw a fire, and he proceeded towards it.

But when he came to the (Fire), a voice was heard from the right bank of the valley, from a tree in hallowed ground: “O Moses! Verily I am Allah the Lord of the Worlds…” (Quran 28:30)

How does that verse give the above biblical narration?

Where was he going and what was he doing before he came to the Fire?

Moses showed his unwavering faith in God when he led his followers to the Red Sea – Pharoah’s army was behind them, and the open sea in front (Exodus 14:21-28):

And when the two bodies saw each other, the people of Moses said: “We are sure to be overtaken.” (Moses) said: “By no means! My Lord is with me! Soon will He guide me!” Then We told Moses by inspiration: “Strike the sea with thy rod.” So it divided, and each separate part became like the huge, firm mass of a mountain. And We made the other party approach thither. We delivered Moses and all who were with him; but We drowned the others. Verily in this is a Sign: but most of them do not believe. And verily thy Lord is He, the Exalted in Might, Most Merciful. (Quran 26:61-68)

What was the preceding events that took place before the Istraelites were permitted by Pharaoh to leave Egypt?

In the Quran, God says that He spoke directly to Moses, but when he requested to see Him, God cast His reflected glory over a mountain and it turned to dust, causing Moses to faint (7:143). Over a period of forty nights, God revealed religious knowledge to Moses and chose him to continue to lead his people.

And We ordained laws for him in the Tablets in all matters, both commanding and explaining all things (and said): “Take these and hold these with firmness, and enjoin thy people to hold fast by the best in the precepts.” (Quran 7:145)

Moses was given Laws in Chapter 7 but was born in Chapter 28. Meaning he was given the Laws before he was born.

Chronological arrangement of the quran is terrible and it is believed to be deliberately so to mislead mankind.

Where was he given the Laws?

http://www.whyislam.org/submission/the-holy-quran/story-of-moses-in-the-quran/

The QORAN-For the Muslems

The OLD TESTAMENT- (TORAH)for the Jew

The NEW TESTAMENT-For the Christians

Please with your above explanation is it not true that your Bible is not complete without the Old Testament too?
Please show us where in the New testament that you can find the story you posted above?

truthman2012:

Moses in the Quran

The following are the explanations of the quran given by an islamic cleric about Moses. He used the Bible account to narrate the Quran even though he didn't insert biblical quotes there, I did.. If you removed the bible account, the quranic quotes become meaningless.

Infancy

In line with the Judaic view, we find out from the Quran that when Prophet Moses (pbuh) was born in Egypt, his life was in great danger as the Pharoah was persecuting the Israelites.

Truly Pharaoh elated himself in the land and broke up its people into sections depressing a group among them: their sons he slew, but he kept alive their females: for he was indeed a maker of mischief. (Quran 28:4)

Where is “he was born in Egypt” in that quranic quote?

What caused Pharaoh to be elated and slew their sons?

Whose sons as no Israelites was mentioned in the quranic quote?

Therefore, Moses’s mother was greatly worried about her son’s fate; then, the Quran specifies that God inspired her to take an unlikely action:

So We sent this inspiration to the mother of Moses: “Suckle (thy child) but when thou hast fears about him cast him, into the river, but fear not nor grieve: for We shall restore him to thee, and We shall make him one of Our messengers.” (Quran 28:7)

Moses’s sister hid and kept watch on the progress of her brother across the river. While the Torah maintains that the Pharoah’s daughter adopted Moses, the Quran differs. In fact, the Pharoah’s wife insisted that they adopt him (Exodus 2:2-4).

The wife of Pharaoh said: “(Here is) a joy of the eye for me and for thee: slay him not. It may be that he will be of use to us, or we may adopt him as a son.” And they perceived not (what they were doing)! (Quran 28:9)

Where is it stated in that quote that Moses’s sister hid and kept watch on the progress of her brother across the river in that quranic quote?

When Moses (pbuh) was hungry, he refused to nurse from any of the foster mothers provided for him. At this point, Moses’s sister posing as a bystander suggested she could bring someone who may be successful in feeding him; unbeknownst to his rescuers, she brought his own mother, a point mentioned in Exodus of the Torah as well. Of course, Moses readily nursed from her and the two were thus rejoined (Exodus 2:7-.

Thus did We restore him to his mother that her eye might be comforted, that she might not grieve and that she might know that the promise of Allah is true: but most of them do not understand. (Quran 28:13)

How was he restored, does that verse give the above narration?


Adulthood

Moses grew up in Pharoah’s home and was well-acquainted with the state affairs. When he reached adulthood, he once intervened in a fight between an Israelite and an Egyptian, killing the latter inadvertently. The Quran mentions that guilt consumed him and he asked God to forgive him; fearing for his life, he fled and migrated to Madian, where he found refuge in a household by marrying one of the daughters and serving her father (Exodus 2:10-11).

After some time, Moses returned to Egypt with his family. On the way, near Mount Tur, he saw a fire, and he proceeded towards it.

But when he came to the (Fire), a voice was heard from the right bank of the valley, from a tree in hallowed ground: “O Moses! Verily I am Allah the Lord of the Worlds…” (Quran 28:30)

How does that verse give the above biblical narration?

Where was he going and what was he doing before he came to the Fire?

Moses showed his unwavering faith in God when he led his followers to the Red Sea – Pharoah’s army was behind them, and the open sea in front (Exodus 14:21-28):

And when the two bodies saw each other, the people of Moses said: “We are sure to be overtaken.” (Moses) said: “By no means! My Lord is with me! Soon will He guide me!” Then We told Moses by inspiration: “Strike the sea with thy rod.” So it divided, and each separate part became like the huge, firm mass of a mountain. And We made the other party approach thither. We delivered Moses and all who were with him; but We drowned the others. Verily in this is a Sign: but most of them do not believe. And verily thy Lord is He, the Exalted in Might, Most Merciful. (Quran 26:61-68)

What was the preceding events that took place before the Istraelites were permitted by Pharaoh to leave Egypt?

In the Quran, God says that He spoke directly to Moses, but when he requested to see Him, God cast His reflected glory over a mountain and it turned to dust, causing Moses to faint (7:143). Over a period of forty nights, God revealed religious knowledge to Moses and chose him to continue to lead his people.

And We ordained laws for him in the Tablets in all matters, both commanding and explaining all things (and said): “Take these and hold these with firmness, and enjoin thy people to hold fast by the best in the precepts.” (Quran 7:145)

Moses was given Laws in Chapter 7 but was born in Chapter 28. Meaning he was given the Laws before he was born.

Chronological arrangement of the quran is terrible and it is believed to be deliberately so to mislead mankind.

Where was he given the Laws?

http://www.whyislam.org/submission/the-holy-quran/story-of-moses-in-the-quran/

You've come again abi?

eshbeewanna:


The QORAN-For the Muslems

The OLD TESTAMENT- (TORAH)for the Jew

The NEW TESTAMENT-For the Christians

Please with your above explanation is it not true that your Bible is not complete without the Old Testament too?
Please show us where in the New testament that you can find the story you posted above?

The Bible is old and new testament. Pagan!

Spot on..

truthman2012:


First, the one true God you are emphasizing is not allah. The Jews talk about one true God, yet Muhammad was killing them. The Jews's one true God was who everybody knew before Muhammad. Note how long one true God had been dealing with the Jews prior to the coming of Muhammad and when he came, he declared war on them. Is the Jews' one true God and Muhammad's one true God the same? If yes, why was he killing them? You should now discover that Muhammad's problem was not one-God issue, his god was an enemy to the God of the Jews.

Besides, if you don't need to know about other prophets in details, why did your god mention them at all? Half knowledge is worse than ignorance.

I have some few questions for the Muslims here... is it true that Prophet Muhammad had a vision and when he woke up, he forgot the vision Allah gave him?
A muslim frnd once told me bout how one woman committed adultery, she reported herself to prophet Muhammad... and he told her like 7 times(or thereabout) to go and check herself if she's really sure she did it... to cut it short, he ordered her to die by stoning...

To the topic, it seems some of the Islamic laws were copied from the mosaic laws.. Jesus preached love and forgiveness... take the case of the woman who was about to be stoned, and Jesus said "he without sin"..... i no hear say prophet Muhammad forgive anybody o cos I asked several peeps...(if he did, pls let me know) he focused more on justice... na why plenty of these hausa muslims no get forgiving spirit.. the must revenge... they don't even love other tribes who re muslims( eg the yoruba muslims). Anything wey their mallams tell dem, na im dem dey bliv...

POPdecorator:
@op but u sure that quran was copied frm buybull if so show me this verse in buybull and explain this verses arcording to ur buybull

THE PRESERVATION OF PHARAOH'S BODY

We brought the tribe of Israel across the sea, and Pharaoh and his troops pursued them out of tyranny and enmity. Then, when he was on the point of drowning, he [Pharaoh] said: "I believe that there is no god but Him in Whom the tribe of Israel believes. I am one of the Muslims." (Qur'an, 10:90)
However, this last-minute conversion was not accepted, for it was not sincere. According to the Qur'an, Allah exclaimed:
"
What, now! When previously you rebelled and were one of the corrupters?Today we will preserve your body so you can be a Sign for people who come after you. Surely many people are heedless of Our Signs." (Qur'an, 10:91-92)
The information that Pharaoh's corpse would serve as a sign for later generations may be regarded as an indication that his body would not decay. On display in the Royal Mummies Chamber of the Egyptian Museum in Cairo is a mummified body believed to be that of this tyrant. In all likelihood, Pharaoh's body floated to shore after being drowned, was found and mummified by the Egyptians, and then carried to a previously prepared burial chamber.

What is special about quran talking of Pharaoh body being preserved? It has already happened before it talked about it. It is said to be in a museum. Ordinary humans knew about it.

the Holy Qur'an is not a storybook,this is the Verbatim word of Allah(SWT).It summarily explains,even in some events it vividly explains what happened such as Moses conversation with pharoah the point of it all is the lesson to be learnt.you can get further narrations from the hadiths.

tartar9:
the Holy Qur'an is not a storybook,this is the Verbatim word of Allah(SWT).It summarily explains,even in some events it vividly explains what happened such as Moses conversation with pharoah the point of it all is the lesson to be learnt.you can get further narrations from the hadiths.

and the quran which is supposed to be the word of God did not details the life of Moses, read the story of ishmael Isaac and ,comperd it with the bible and see for your self.

That is how one can point out an hypocrite. It is very easy. truthman2012 is a confirmed hypocrite.
I told you the Bible and the Quran compliment each other, you turned it into the Quran is not complete without the Bible. Can you see the subtle nature and character in your being? much more like the serpent from the book of genesis.

My fellow christians, be careful of who you follow, The one thing God/Allah want us to always do is to study by ourselves at all time. And ask questions which He will answer by Himself. He has ways He does that, Sometimes, He even answers directly. God/Allah does not need nobody praises or fake holy holy. All He requires of Us is to stand the hell up and put on or spark that eternal flame in us. Flame? Yes Flame, have you seen a sperm under a microscope? It has light on his/her forefront. Where is that light in us today? lite up the flame and stop falling for hypocrite lies.

Beware of the hypocrites!

malvisguy212:
and the quran which is supposed to be the word of God did not details the life of Moses, read the story of ishmael Isaac and ,comperd it with the bible and see for your self.

i said the verbatim! word of God.all those are explained in detail in the hadiths which are also inspired.

truthman2012:


Your explanations do not change the point am making.

''No one knows the true interpretation except allah''. If only allah knows the true interpretation, how is it useful for you?

Hey, why are your ranting so much here?? Even if Bible preach so much about Muslims you won't still believe

Genesis 12:1-3
1 The LORD had said to Abram, "Leave your country, your people and your father's household and go to the land I will show you.
2 "I will make you into a great nation and I will bless you; I will make your name great, and you will be a blessing.
3 I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you."

The quote ”go to the land I will show you" is referring to the city of Paran (Mecca).

The quote "I will make you into a great nation" is quite interesting. How can GOD Almighty call the Muslims, who came from Ishmael, a "great nation" if they are as the modern Christians of today consider them to be "Satan's followers"? How can we be a "great nation" in the eyes of GOD Almighty if we are hated by Him?


The quote "I will bless those who bless you" perfectly fits the Muslims. As you probably know, we Muslims worship Allah Almighty by prostrating to Him.

tayebest:


Hey, why are your ranting so much here?? Even if Bible preach so much about Muslims you won't still believe

Genesis 12:1-3
1 The LORD had said to Abram, "Leave your country, your people and your father's household and go to the land I will show you.
2 "I will make you into a great nation and I will bless you; I will make your name great, and you will be a blessing.
3 I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you."

The quote ”go to the land I will show you" is referring to the city of Paran (Mecca).

The quote "I will make you into a great nation" is quite interesting. How can GOD Almighty call the Muslims, who came from Ishmael, a "great nation" if they are as the modern Christians of today consider them to be "Satan's followers"? How can we be a "great nation" in the eyes of GOD Almighty if we are hated by Him?


The quote "I will bless those who bless you" perfectly fits the Muslims. As you probably know, we Muslims worship Allah Almighty by prostrating to Him.

Nonsense!

I wouldn't have answered you but you will think you are making a point.

In muslims search for legitimacy, they pick any biblical statement to mean either islam, Muhammad or Mecca. You guys don't feel secured without the bible.

Where was Abraham coming from and where was he going?

[Genesis 12:5]
He took his wife Sarai, his
nephew Lot, all the
possessions they had
accumulated and the people
they had acquired in HARRAN,
and they set out for the land
of CANAAN, and they arrived
there.

God told him to leave Harran and he left and settled in Canaan. Nowhere did he travel to Mecca to build Kaaba, allahh lied to you.

If Abraham truly built Kaaba, all bible prophets including Moses, Joshua, Isaac, Jacob and even Jesus would have visited there on pilgrimage. No biblical, historical and even islamic record that they did. Kaaba was built by Meccan idol worshipers for their 360 gods and allahh was the chief of them.

truthman2012:


Nonsense!

I wouldn't have answered you but you will think you are making a point.

In muslims search for legitimacy, they pick any biblical statement to mean either islam, Muhammad or Mecca. You guys don't feel secured without the bible.

Where was Abraham coming from and where was he going?

[Genesis 12:5]
He took his wife Sarai, his
nephew Lot, all the
possessions they had
accumulated and the people
they had acquired in HARRAN,
and they set out for the land
of CANAAN, and they arrived
there.

God told him to leave Harran and he left and settled in Canaan. Nowhere did he travel to Mecca to build Kaaba, allahh lied to you.

If Abraham truly built Kaaba, all bible prophets including Moses, Joshua, Isaac, Jacob and even Jesus would have visited there on pilgrimage. No biblical, historical and even islamic record that they did. Kaaba was built by Meccan idol worshipers for their 360 gods and allahh was the chief of them.

All wht u quote me for are just another waste, why have you not debunk the said Bible verse instead you quick in running to another one of Abraham building the kaaba! Did what I wrote need to do anyting with Kaaba/pilgrimage?? As a matter of fact their are more proof of 'pilgrimage' in Bible but that's not what we emphasizing of. You either refute the claim or you keep mute!