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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by ahyotomiwa: 10:47pm On Aug 20, 2015 |
TheBae: TRUE.....(Supported).. but sometimes the money are not all bin deducted at once...sinx ur sponsor might not release dem at once..dere is time for moni to b generated in..hence the essenx of inflow and out flow....but it best to have way more....had someone who even stated more funds to be available dan d balance in her acct...i guess dey left r due to d acct cash flows...but it best to play safe like theBae suggested. |
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by thesoj: 10:48pm On Aug 20, 2015 |
@eetti It is okay to put $52,000CAD as funds available for your stay if his sponsor letters can back that up. Nothing wrong with writing down a higher amount if the financial documents corroborate it. One of the issues he needs to fix is putting at least $10k CAD in addition to tuition. Edited: @eetti "Funds Available For Your Stay" refers to total funds available for your stay, meaning the amount that will be available to cover "tuition"+"room&board"+"other expenses". The image you posted looks like a form that wasn't properly filled. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by TheBae: 10:50pm On Aug 20, 2015 |
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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by eetti: 10:56pm On Aug 20, 2015 |
thesoj: Having the stated amount in the sponsor's account does nail it, you have to show prove that the sponsor would give you that amount of money, this people don't earn that in a year and you claim that amount of money would be available to you. It sounds fishy. 2 Likes |
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by TheBae: 10:57pm On Aug 20, 2015 |
Kindly explain how you arrived at $52k.. I'll assume the actual amount you may need is about $30k for 2yrs. What about the $22k, what is it for? That's a lot of money and puts so much pressure on your SOAs. How many siblings do you have? What position are you in your family? Graviton2: 1 Like |
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by thesoj: 11:00pm On Aug 20, 2015 |
Yeah I agree it would be a problem if the $52k CAD doesn't corroborate his sponsors' earnings and/or bank statements. This is why it is sometimes good (for people with cosponsors or complicated finances) to create a spreadsheet or table to itemize every source of funds and how it adds up to the amount one stated in the "Funds Available For My Stay" box. eetti: 2 Likes |
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by thesoj: 11:02pm On Aug 20, 2015 |
@TheBae is the new detective on the thread, a la @hayqinsbFX. I love your questions ![]() TheBae: |
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by berexio1: 11:05pm On Aug 20, 2015 |
thesoj:If u say this for 'Funds Available' I would probably agree...Bt when the form asks for Room and Board its different....Mind u room and board is not equal to Living expenses minus food.They want to make sure u are atleast in-line with what is obtainable..U can write 10k there and if u fall short in ur statements, insuffient funds will be thicked..Putting 10k there doesn't mean u av met CIC requirement..U simply meet the requirement in ur SOA. Bt u can't put sth ridiculous there too, it shows the person doesn't know what he is doing. Look at it this way, his account balance should have a minimum of 10k+Tuition.That's what CIC says..He can decide to spend less than 10k in living expenses...That's the way I see it. |
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by deedee0: 11:08pm On Aug 20, 2015 |
thesoj:Lol..it's allowed. You are not getting my point. It's not about sufficient/insufficient funds. I'm only telling you what helped me to decide whether to state my sponsor's dependants or not...My family info form! And that I also did not dwell much on the issue. Just a simple explanation, either in sponsorship letter or affidavit of sponsorship (or both). Your sister's documents/application was too tight, I believe you'll pull this off too! Agent FiveEyes ![]() |
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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by eetti: 11:13pm On Aug 20, 2015 |
thesoj: In reference to the bold text, I once argued with a Canadian University representative (White guy) about summing up tuition +room and board + others to get funds available for your stay and he refuted. What I finally filled was the image provided. |
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by TheBae: 11:14pm On Aug 20, 2015 |
My point exactly (even though we should include our tuition, that should amount to about 35k +/-). While some people may have stated 50k+ and still got TRV, they probably had way better SOAs that's probably even double that amount with little or no other dependents. We need to try to stay away from the temptation of over-doing things. Personally, I think THAT was THE problem. eetti: |
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by deedee0: 11:15pm On Aug 20, 2015 |
ohammed199:Diamond bank ..Form A |
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by thesoj: 11:15pm On Aug 20, 2015 |
@deedee0, makes sense. Thank you. ![]() @berexio1, the best policy is to make it simple for the VO to assess one's application. Based on this premise, it is best to have the amount in "room&board" plus "other" add up to at least $10k CAD, therefore meeting CIC's minimum requirements. This obviously doesn't mean that the applicant still couldn't be denied for other reasons. |
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by TheBae: 11:18pm On Aug 20, 2015 |
Yeah. That's why IMO inflow can be more relevant than balance. BUT, some VOs are more critical than doing this basic math. What if the sponsor's source of income is negatively affected by external source and he is unable to generate the money? You end up working overtime in Canny or even doing illegal stuff. They need some sort of Insurance that that money is almost available instantly except the inflow is quite exceptional. I think these are some of the mistakes some of us make. I stand to be corrected anyway ahyotomiwa: |
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by eetti: 11:22pm On Aug 20, 2015 |
@TheBae I hope we meet in NS though, still waiting for CIC to make a request for my passport |
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by deedee0: 11:26pm On Aug 20, 2015 |
BrightFuturewit:About two months after application deadline |
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by TheBae: 11:27pm On Aug 20, 2015 |
Lol it's just weird. I know for sure that my father won't drop $52k just like that but I guess it happens like in your case ![]() Of course with a very attractive SOA (which is not the case in his application), it'd probably pass if he's his sponsor's only dependant. They probably know that his aunty won't give him $20k anyway, the SOA gave that away. I think that's the major problem, $52k is too much for the SOAs presented thesoj: |
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by TheBae: 11:27pm On Aug 20, 2015 |
Sure thing eetti: |
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by thesoj: 11:29pm On Aug 20, 2015 |
The fact that he is a university representative doesn't mean that he understands how to fill study permit application forms to CIC. His job is to help with admissions or to advertise the school, not to fill and understand visa application forms. Also, his being white has nothing to do with it (no offense, just saying). The guy is wrong, actually (I'm usually not this blunt lol). University admissions representatives have compartmentalized jobs, and I wouldn't expect them to know how to fill student visa application forms correctly. This is not their job. They do not work very closely with or for CIC, and they can't even influence CIC's decisions. "Funds Available For Your Stay" refers to funds available for your time in Canada. (read through Step 2 in the hyperlinked page). To me, it is pretty clear; and every link I found online corroborates this. eetti: 5 Likes |
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by NigerianNewbie: 11:31pm On Aug 20, 2015 |
eetti: To be honest, that's pretty strange. Like @thesoj said, I believe funds available refers to tuition + room&board + other expenses. For example, in my application, I put in 80k as funds available and thankfully, I got my TRV. Since you say that's what you were told though, it's fine. Different strokes for different folks. |
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by thesoj: 11:32pm On Aug 20, 2015 |
Yeah if I were Graviton2, I would only add like $12k CAD (total of "room&board" plus "other" ) to the tuition, and then write the total (no more than $26k CAD) as funds available for my stay. This would put less pressure on the bank accounts. Edited: Writing $52k is okay if the bank statements are massive enough to handle it. In my sister's app, we wrote the total amount that the sponsor promised for the two years total; but putting an amount for one year is ok too. TheBae: |
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by NigerianNewbie: 11:33pm On Aug 20, 2015 |
thesoj: Aha! Much better, there's the link to clarify the info to be provided in that field, so everyone is on the same page. |
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by berexio1: 11:36pm On Aug 20, 2015 |
UG finances I have studied so far require 2digit SOAs..U can read back the thread to confirm this..finances has to be strong... |
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by jpepper: 11:36pm On Aug 20, 2015 |
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by thesoj: 11:37pm On Aug 20, 2015 |
True... makes sense. UG lasts four years after all. berexio1: |
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by Graviton2(m): 11:44pm On Aug 20, 2015 |
TheBae: I'm going for an Undergraduate degree. It's 4years, hence the large sum. I have only one sibling and he's 12. I'm 20. I'm the first son. |
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by TheBae: 11:45pm On Aug 20, 2015 |
Yes of course, it all depends greatly on the SOA and dependents. Someone can have N50M SOA and still get denied for insufficient funds because he has 20 siblings, 15 of which are dependent on the same sponsor. So yeah, a lot of factors need to be considered before dropping huge figures thesoj: |
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by TheBae: 11:48pm On Aug 20, 2015 |
Undergraduate? TBH, the funds are truly insufficient BUT a good inflow should have helped a bit. How was the inflow? Did the inflow show that within the next 2 or more years your sponsors would still have up to or more than the current balance to continue funding you and to fund your brother who still needs millions to see him through the next few years of his life? The solution is to take time out to beef up both SOAs or look for a better co-sponsor while still beefing up your dad's SOA. Everyone is waiting for your success story Graviton2: |
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by Graviton2(m): 11:48pm On Aug 20, 2015 |
thesoj: In my first (This is my second), I made sure I filled the "other" section too...Yet I was denied for the exact same reason as now. |
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by thesoj: 11:49pm On Aug 20, 2015 |
Lol. true true. I like the way your mind works. ![]() ![]() TheBae: |
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 8 by thesoj: 11:52pm On Aug 20, 2015 |
Bummer. Yeah I'm thinking you may also need to boost your sponsors' bank statements then. Or get an additional co-sponsor. I hope in this application you were meticulous about including documents about all your sponsors' sources of income/funds. Perhaps because you are UG, the VO needs to see bank statements in the double figures (as berexio1 stated). Also, maybe your sponsors' letters need some tweaking. Edited: @Graviton2 yes the sponsor bank statements have to be six months. The four-month statements you submitted could also have caused the VO to be skeptical. Graviton2: 1 Like |
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