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| Re: Why The Need For Intra Tribal Martial Issues Among The Yorubas by tpiadotcom: 1:46pm On Jul 21, 2015 |
Kimoni: Hm, the person wey go break that tradition go try, na oyinbo ( black or white one including the nigerian ones) go fit. |
| Re: Why The Need For Intra Tribal Martial Issues Among The Yorubas by ladygogo: 3:38pm On Jul 21, 2015 |
dangotesmummy: lol. kulyie. Not a fan of lafun. That thing stinks! eeeew! I like efo riro though. Who doesnt? Is the dialect similar? I dont think so. Kulyie? you dey ask me this kwesion?. you that is the olori of awon regbe regbe and bobagunwas.  I'm not really an owambe person though and i stopped doing aso-ebis a long time ago. |
| Re: Why The Need For Intra Tribal Martial Issues Among The Yorubas by dangotesmummy: 4:03pm On Jul 21, 2015 |
Chaiii you don't know what you're missing the smell of the lafun sef is enough for me to salivate  lafun wey fele very well and better vegetable will make my day anytime Ahen you were accusing me of being in this owanmbe ijebu associations eg regbe regbe etc  I would have been but it use to consume money a lot you realise you keep on spending on frivolities and unnecessary show offs aka feferity. It won't make you remember savings and the friendships are usually fair weather friendships )ladygogo: |
| Re: Why The Need For Intra Tribal Martial Issues Among The Yorubas by Kimoni: 5:18pm On Jul 21, 2015 |
tpiadotcom: Lol...funny enough, it's just a co-incidence for me, not so for my siblings |
| Re: Why The Need For Intra Tribal Martial Issues Among The Yorubas by damiso(f): 5:21pm On Jul 21, 2015 |
Kimoni: Abi o and she is abusing us Sotey she started dashing people lace |
| Re: Why The Need For Intra Tribal Martial Issues Among The Yorubas by Prettiepearlz(f): 6:16pm On Jul 21, 2015 |
djcrown:My brother,e tire me ooooo,I just wonder too. My mum never fails to remind me of that. But not all ijebus are bad,I like those pple from ijebu Ode more,they are friendly and nice but the rest I can't vouch for them. As for the abeokutas,my lips are sealed. |
| Re: Why The Need For Intra Tribal Martial Issues Among The Yorubas by tpiadotcom: 6:27pm On Jul 21, 2015 |
Kimoni: Not sure of your meaning? |
| Re: Why The Need For Intra Tribal Martial Issues Among The Yorubas by Kimoni: 6:33pm On Jul 21, 2015 |
tpiadotcom: It's not a deliberate attempt on my part to be this Ijebucentric. It's just a co-incidence. My siblings have all inter-married. tpiadotcom: |
| Re: Why The Need For Intra Tribal Martial Issues Among The Yorubas by tpiadotcom: 6:35pm On Jul 21, 2015 |
Kimoni: The op has wrong stats actually. Not sure why he opened the thread. There is no place in nigeria which has no intermarriage. People should stop opening threads with wrong information. 1 Like |
| Re: Why The Need For Intra Tribal Martial Issues Among The Yorubas by simpleseyi: 7:22pm On Jul 21, 2015 |
djcrown: Not just Ondo and Ekiti are scared of marry Abeokuta/Ijebu natives. Every tribe in Nigeria is scared of Abeokuta/Ijebu natives. We the Abeokuta/Ijebus are the movers and shakers of Nigeria. We scare every other tribe and state in Nigeria. Check out our roll call and tell me who wont be intimidated. First eleven 1. Obafemi Awolowo 2. MKO Abiola 3. Olusegun Obasanjo 4. Wole Shoyinka 5. Ernest Shonekan 6. Fela Anikulapo Kuti 7. Olikoye Randsome Kuti 8. Beko Randsome Kuti 9. Tai Sholarin 10. Olabisi Onabanjo 11. Mike Adenuga Reserve. 12. Funmilayo Randsome Kuti 13. Oladipupo Diya 14. Ola Rotimi 15. Tunde Bakare 16. Subomi Balogun 17. Oba Otudeko 18. Bayo Kuku 19. Peter Akinola 20. prince Bola Ajibola 21. My humble self Omooba SimpleSeyi 3 Likes |
| Re: Why The Need For Intra Tribal Martial Issues Among The Yorubas by tpiadotcom: 8:03pm On Jul 21, 2015 |
simpleseyi: no Abeokuta/Ijebu would use this terminology though. Did you grow up outside Ogun state? |
| Re: Why The Need For Intra Tribal Martial Issues Among The Yorubas by simpleseyi: 8:18pm On Jul 21, 2015 |
tpiadotcom: You expect me to say we the Abeokuta/Ijaw or we the Abeokuta/Igala. My friend, go get a job. 1 Like |
| Re: Why The Need For Intra Tribal Martial Issues Among The Yorubas by tpiadotcom: 8:19pm On Jul 21, 2015 |
simpleseyi: what's offending you about the question? which Ogun state indigene did you see using that term?  you dey pioneer am ni? and are you even from Ogun state because I'm sure you have never indicated such before now. post links if you did. |
| Re: Why The Need For Intra Tribal Martial Issues Among The Yorubas by tpiadotcom: 3:30pm On Jul 22, 2015 |
Shymm3x: eschew evils and stick to your own place sweetie. where did you say you're from again? Europe or something? you don't need to put mouth in everything. |
| Re: Why The Need For Intra Tribal Martial Issues Among The Yorubas by Shymm3x: 5:20pm On Jul 22, 2015 |
tpiadotcom: And this is me thinking whatever pills you were taking are working - but it seems you're back to being a broken record. Like seriously, what triggered this? Anyway, I hope you ain't morbidly obese cos word on the road is that 'em anti-depressant injections they give folks in the mental home always make them gain extreme weight. How true is that, tilapia? P.S: no voodoo dolls. |
| Re: Why The Need For Intra Tribal Martial Issues Among The Yorubas by tpiadotcom: 7:07pm On Jul 22, 2015 |
Shymm3x: |
| Re: Why The Need For Intra Tribal Martial Issues Among The Yorubas by cococandy(f): 7:34pm On Jul 22, 2015 |
@bold, how do you know? it's only on NL that I learned ijebu people are not liked. In my tribe, nobody talks about you guys much less fear yous. We don't know you like that.  simpleseyi: 1 Like |
| Re: Why The Need For Intra Tribal Martial Issues Among The Yorubas by Shymm3x: 8:52pm On Jul 22, 2015 |
tpiadotcom: Tilapia, keep my mum's outta ya mouth unless you want me to send "I'm Tyrone" to ya yard to stick his schlong right in ya pum. My mum is Queen Tiye and calling her name in vain is a sin lol. Oi, it's summer...let me enjoy my summer in peace cos not too many people make it past summer where I'm from. So stop trying to get a reaction out of me. Take ya meds and stay outta my way. |
| Re: Why The Need For Intra Tribal Martial Issues Among The Yorubas by ladygogo: 9:56pm On Jul 22, 2015 |
dangotesmummy: Lol. i no like am jo. I prefer the black amala. Men. Those guys are a trip. I love watching them in their element on youtube. I think the aso-ebi thing originated from the Ojude-oba festival. You are right about the aso-ebi thing jare. |
| Re: Why The Need For Intra Tribal Martial Issues Among The Yorubas by omoiseselagba: 11:07pm On Jul 22, 2015 |
damiso:tell them my broda but u failed to add ajah ibeju lekki n unity.all those places are ijebuland by extension. |
| Re: Why The Need For Intra Tribal Martial Issues Among The Yorubas by tpiadotcom: 11:25pm On Jul 22, 2015 |
Shymm3x: |
| Re: Why The Need For Intra Tribal Martial Issues Among The Yorubas by Kimoni: 9:20am On Jul 23, 2015 |
ladygogo: So Ijebu-Ode wan claim aso-ebi now abi   Lady gogo so ara e o....no let us show ourself for public o There was something common back then where men and women of the same age group would come together very often to socialize and maybe do other important stuffs. They would wear the same outfit on these days for their meetings and of course during their social gatherings like Ojude-Oba, ereke day etc. I still have pics of my grandpa with his age group in their common agbada. I think they call it "egbe" I would say that's where aso-ebi evolved from. Then of course, egbas too have their egba to line. |
| Re: Why The Need For Intra Tribal Martial Issues Among The Yorubas by coogar: 11:19am On Jul 23, 2015 |
simpleseyi: no one would argue this with you.... however, the wealth & elitism came from an ugly trade known as slavery! the ijebus not only sold their kinsmen to make money, they also erected several toll plazas to tax other slave owners from the hinterland. so why are you surprised people of ogun state are much more wealthier? 1 Like |
| Re: Why The Need For Intra Tribal Martial Issues Among The Yorubas by Shymm3x: 12:19pm On Jul 23, 2015 |
Lmao @ the fable and myth about the wealth of the Ijebus coming from selling slaves like Ijebus were the only Yoruba subgroup that sold slaves. Oyo had and sold more slaves than Ijebus. Eko kings were slaves merchants. Egbas sold slaves. Ijeshas and Ekitis sold slaves, if not how were they able to procure munitions and the mercenaries they used in the kiriji wars. Owo sold slaves. Dahomey sold slaves. Bini sold slaves. Ibadan sold slaves. Itsekiris sold slaves etc.. About 15 million slaves were shipped from Africa to the new world during slavery. However, before the abolition of slavery and Kiriji wars - the total number of Yoruba/anago/lucumi slaves shipped to the new world wasn't even up to 10,000 based on slave records, thus making Yorubas one of least affected by slavery before the 19th century. That changed later and most of the Yorubas were sold illegally during the Kiriji wars by the different warring groups, hence Yoruba culture survived in the new world. And the Ijebus were never involved in those wars. So where did the myth about only the Ijebus selling slaves come from? Regardless, most slaves were captured not sold and ALL Yoruba subgroups sold slaves. Folks are just innately jealous of the Ijebus and Egbas cos they both had an head start before them. Aren't Ekiti/Ondo the two most backward Yoruba States and the same folks Awo had to invest massively in to bridge the gap between them and other Yorubas especially the Lagos and Ogun Yorubas? It is all about inferiority and Ijebus were supremely rich by selling clothes and other things to European explorers before slavery and they maintained their wealth after slavery by being industrialists. |
| Re: Why The Need For Intra Tribal Martial Issues Among The Yorubas by coogar: 11:00am On Jul 24, 2015 |
Shymm3x: the ijebus were the closest to the coast in the entire south west. they sold slaves and made money via taxes from the other folks selling slaves. people from ijesha, ekiti, oyo, ibadan must travel to lagos to sell slaves to white men. they don't get to lagos via jetplanes....they travelled on land and they must cross ijebu province to sell the slaves. while crossing, they get taxed to stupor in a take it or leave it transaction. this is where the hatred comes from.
this is not true..... the bight of benin(lagos coasts) had the 2nd highest statistics. more than 20% of the total slaves carted away from africa came from the lagos/badagry area. only west central africa have more with close to 39% of the total slaves. yorubas actively participated in slavery than even the biafrans bight that included cameroon, gabon. equatorial guinea and the entire niger delta areas.
the head start should be an advantage - ijebus/egbas met with the white men before any other yoruba tribe did. it was pretty much given to them.....even with that, there are more learned people in ado-ekiti than the entire ogun state. unfortunately for nigeria, academics have a lower reward than human slavery. the ijebus prospered over the years, the ekitis were ignored in the grand scheme of things cos they knew too much! 2 Likes |
| Re: Why The Need For Intra Tribal Martial Issues Among The Yorubas by Shymm3x: 12:58pm On Jul 24, 2015 |
coogar: The Ijebus weren't the only ones close to the coast - Eko (Lagos Island) is on the coast, parts of Ondo are on the coast, Itsekiri is on the coast, and Dahomey has its coastline. Ijebus had Epe, Ikorudu, and everywhere else outisde Eko - all the way to Epe. Eko and Ondo coasts were under Bini. Itsekiris, who're mostly of Ijebu descent, were autonomous. Dahomey was under Oyo. And they all sold slaves. So why hold only the Ijebus in contempt, when everyone else sold slaves and while Ekiti was under Oyo, Ondo was under Bini, at that point in history, at the height of the slave trade? Subsequently, when everyone broke away from Oyo - they all sold slaves. Eko Kings were slave merchants and they had their own direct access to the sea. Egbas sold slaves and they had their own access to the coast. However, the Ijeshas, Ibadan, Ekitis et al went through the Ijebus and since the Ijebus lived in isolation (like they have always done) and it was sacrilegious for outsiders to go through the Kingdom. So what it's in maximising profits by taxing folks for using your province? And why use primordial disagreements as the premise to harbour all kinds of hatred and stereotypical tripe on generations that have absolutely nothing to do with the shrewdness of the Ijebu businessmen of yore? For the Bight of Benin statistics - your assertion is based solely on the overall statistics. However, at the height of slavery to the 19th century - Bight of Biafra and West Central Africa (Kongo) had the highest statistics by far in hundreds of thousands. While the Bight of Benin which includes fon, Yoruba/anago/lucumi/, Bini et al were just in tens of thousands. The number of slaves sold in the Bight of Benin increased during the Yoruba internecine wars which the Ijebus never really participated in. Egbas sold their own slaves directly. Ibadan sold their slaves via the Ijebus. Ijeshas/Ekitis used the Ijebus, but subsequently opened a place in Lagos where they also sold slaves directly for munitions and mercenaries for the wars. Dahomey sold their slaves directly. Itsekiris sold slaves as middlemen for Bini and other ethnic groups in that axis. That was when the stats went through the roof. Hence Yoruba culture remained intact in the new world, and a lot of Yoruba slaves were able to find their way back. Ditto why there's a large Yoruba community in Freetown, Sierra Leone today. I'll look into my archives for the slave project recorded statistics and post it later today. All in all, majority of the slaves were captured not sold - over 15 million slaves were taken from Africa to the new world, but the total number of slaves bought wasn't up to 5 million. I'm not interested in waving dycks about which Yoruba subgroup runs the show. Though the Ijebus were the first to have contacts with European - they were never into anything the Europeans had to offer, apart from trading with them. Hence Christianity got into Ijebuland in the 19th century and it was the Egbas who brought Christianity into Ijebuland. Ijebus embraced Islam before Christianity. Egbas have always been doing their thing and they're a brave and learned people - warriors. Anyway, in as much as we're all prejudiced one way or the other, I just think the Ekiti/Ondo folks need to keep their inane prejudice and hatred to themselves and focus on building the same track record the Ijebus/Egbas have built over the years. No one cares about what they think and who they want their kids to marry. However, it's problematic when folks start holding generations who have nothing to do with the past responsible for something that should've died time ago, while creating idiotic stereotypes out of it. Awolowo was unabashedly an Ijebu man - why didn't they reject him when he was investing massively in them, to bridge the gap between them and Yorubas from Lagos/Ogun? Aren't Ekiti folks the same stomach infrastructure folks, with an illiterate riff raff as their state governor? And what have Ondo folks achieved with their oil wealth and their thieving governor? They need to focus on themselves. |
| Re: Why The Need For Intra Tribal Martial Issues Among The Yorubas by Shymm3x: 2:47pm On Jul 24, 2015 |
@Coogar I just found an academic link on the internet that has some of the recorded slaves sold into the new world and the regions they were brought in from. This is the link: https://tracingafricanroots./ You can check the records to see how Bight of Biafra and Kongo dominated the number of the early slaves - up until the 19th century, when the Yoruba internecine wars started. |
| Re: Why The Need For Intra Tribal Martial Issues Among The Yorubas by SAMBARRY: 2:54pm On Jul 24, 2015 |
Broda shymex how are you. I've been looking for you since. I want to introduce my sister to you. Which one do you like Shymm3x:
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| Re: Why The Need For Intra Tribal Martial Issues Among The Yorubas by Shymm3x: 3:53pm On Jul 24, 2015 |
SAMBARRY: Lol, these ones look like they overdosed on ground rice and got morbidly obese in the process. They look like clowns with the excessive make-up on their faces. Post pictures of voluptuous ones with perky ti.ts and big batty. |
| Re: Why The Need For Intra Tribal Martial Issues Among The Yorubas by SAMBARRY: 3:58pm On Jul 24, 2015 |
Shymm3x:lol see as you finish them. Ok see onoda one she sha has perky tits and big ass . Shebi that is what you are looking for?
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| Re: Why The Need For Intra Tribal Martial Issues Among The Yorubas by Shymm3x: 4:00pm On Jul 24, 2015 |
SAMBARRY: Now, this is my type. Where she at? - I need to shoot some Ijebu babies in her belly and pay her child support for the 18 years. Dammit! |
| Re: Why The Need For Intra Tribal Martial Issues Among The Yorubas by tpiadotcom: 4:02pm On Jul 24, 2015 |
Am I the only one who thinks shymmexx has a screw loose? 1 Like |
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