@Noetic

please stop this unfortunate misinformation. where in ur deluded dreams did u c allah in the holy bible?

Go to Gideon bible and look at the page where it was translated to Arabic
Why do we have the word in Arabic bible?
Why do Northern christians call Him Allah?

babs787:

@Noetic
Go to Gideon bible and look at the page where it was translated to Arabic
Why do we have the word in Arabic bible?
Why do Northern christians call Him Allah?

That is because of the mohammed islamic deception. until i researched the true origin of allah, I also thought that he/it was the bible GOD.
but on further analyses I realised it was a fraud and an elevation of one of the 360 gods of arabia.

who was the allah that mohammed`s father worshipped?
who is allah`s wife called "allat"?
who are their three children?
how does all this connect to mohammeds allah?

@Noetic

You are still being evasive. You didnt answer the question

Go to Gideon bible and look at the page where it was translated to Arabic
Why do we have the word in Arabic bible?
Why do Northern christians call Him Allah?

That is because of the mohammed islamic deception. until i researched the true origin of allah, I also thought that he/it was the bible GOD.
but on further analyses I realised it was a fraud and an elevation of one of the 360 gods of arabia.

Did Muslims put the word in your bible?

babs787:

@Noetic

You are still being evasive. You didnt answer the question

Go to Gideon bible and look at the page where it was translated to Arabic
Why do we have the word in Arabic bible?
Why do Northern christians call Him Allah?

Did Muslims put the word in your bible?

what happened to the eyes of ur brain?

didnt u see this

That is because of the mohammed islamic deception. until i researched the true origin of allah, I also thought that he/it was the bible GOD.
but on further analyses I realised it was a fraud and an elevation of one of the 360 gods of arabia.

now u answer my questions objectively

who was the allah that mohammed`s father worshipped?
who is allah`s wife called "allat"?
who are their three children?, how come allah had sex and had children?
how does all this connect to mohammeds allah? is mohammed a fraud?

Answers have been provided times without number but I will still answer you but before I go on,I will need facts on the wife of Allah,the daughters etc. With regards to your response above,why cant bible authors remove the word from the bible after realizing the truth?

what facts do u need? just google "allat" and "origin of allah" and "daughters of allah".

what facts do u need? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin just google "allat" and "origin of allah" and "daughters of allah".

It is you who need to be corrected, you can't know history and or Islam more than the arabs.

That is because of the mohammed islamic deception. until i researched the true origin of allah, I also thought that he/it was the bible GOD.
but on further analyses I realised it was a fraud and an elevation of one of the 360 gods of arabia.

who was the allah that mohammed`s father worshipped?
who is allah`s wife called "allat"?
who are their three children?
how does all this connect to mohammeds allah?

Which book/article did you read? Who is the author of the book? Where did he get the source information? Did you want to teach the arabs thier own history? Do you want to know Abu more than his mother? I have clearly explain the the differrence between 'Lah/Al-ilah and 'Allah' relating to Arab language and I gave example from english language, the realtion between 'god(s)' and God. I gave five diff assignment from this which you, neotic systematically dodged. Authoritatively, any website that you may sight regarding Allah was one of the 360 gods of Arabia are mostly christians webs. Most of this authors are totally ignorance of the word ALLAH, arab cultures and Islam in general. There are merely propangandist.

Now, I will still refer you to my earlier questions;


1. what is the cognates relation between olu/oluwa(yoruba), god, lord and God semantically.

2. Anlyse the words "LAILAHI ILA ALAH"

3. how would you differentiate god from God if not written down in english.

4. why there is no other translation for ELOI/ELOHIM from the bible original language up till now

5. why this word ALLAH in Arabic bible?

probaby you check usual sites: www.answering-islam.org, muslim_hope , e.t.c

@Noetic

who was the allah that mohammed`s father worshipped?

He didnt worship Allah but idol.

who is allah`s wife called "allat"?

Its a lie. Its one of the goddess you people ignorantly called daughters of Allah

who are their three children?

Read

On daughters of Allah:

Quran 53 v 19: Have ye seen Lat. and 'Uzza,

Quran 53 v 20: And another, the third (goddess), Manat?

Quran 53 v 21: What! for you the male sex, and for Him, the female?

Quran 53 v 22: Behold, such would be indeed a division most unfair!

Quran 53 v 23: T[b]hese are nothing but names which ye have devised,- ye and your fathers,- for which Allah has sent down no authority (whatever).[/b] They follow nothing but conjecture and what their own souls desire!- Even though there has already come to them Guidance from their Lord!

how does all this connect to mohammeds allah?

So, over to you:

1. what is the cognates relation between olu/oluwa(yoruba), god, lord and God semantically.

2. Anlyse the words "LAILAHI ILA ALAH"

3. how would you differentiate god from God if not written down in english.

4. why there is no other translation for ELOI/ELOHIM from the bible original language up till now

5. why this word ALLAH in Arabic bible?

babs787:

@Noetic


He didnt worship Allah but[b] idol.[/b]

but since his name was abd-allah, which means servant of allah.
so he was serving an idol, his son (mohammed) came to uplift this idol too. so from ur answer i can deduce that father and son served the same idol called "allah" now i know better.

Its a lie. Its one of the goddess you people ignorantly called daughters of Allah
Read

On daughters of Allah:

Quran 53 v 19: Have ye seen Lat. and 'Uzza,

Quran 53 v 20: And another, the third (goddess), Manat?

Quran 53 v 21: What! for you the male sex, and for Him, the female?

Quran 53 v 22: Behold, such would be indeed a division most unfair!

Quran 53 v 23: T[b]hese are nothing but names which ye have devised,- ye and your fathers,- for which Allah has sent down no authority (whatever).[/b] They follow nothing but conjecture and what their own souls desire!- Even though there has already come to them Guidance from their Lord!
So, over to you:

nope. she is not his daughter, she is the wife. go get ur facts straight. u are getting civil this days, please keep it up

though u failed to give satisfactory answers to my questions, by acting very typically illiterate. Answering a question with a question.
I will however answer u cos blabs adopted ur questions.

1. what is the cognates relation between olu/oluwa(yoruba), god, lord and God semantically.

oluwa means LORD.
god refers to an idol, like the one mohammed's father abd-allah was worshipping. who had a wife called allat and three daughters.
LORD, there are many lords who preside over territories or households. But I know of the LORD of lords called JESUS.
GOD is JEHOVAH, HE is not the same person as "allah".

2. Anlyse the words "LAILAHI ILA ALAH"

there is no other "god" except "allah"
considering that there were 360 rivals of allah in mecca at the time of mohammed's birth, this phrase was neccesary to displace the sun and moon gods amongst others. Congrats, allah is now the only god in saudi arabia. but the only annoying thing is that he asked u to conquer the rest of the world with violence. that's very bad of mr allah.

3. how would you differentiate god from God if not written down in english.

Simply by reference. I know "sango" "obatala" "oya" "budha" "allah" are not the GOD I serve.
Jehovah GOD is not the same as "allah" Arabs might use the idolic name of allah to refer to Jehovah, but by reference, they are referring to someone else.

4. why there is no other translation for ELOI/ELOHIM from the bible original language up till now

because ELOHIM best captures the plurality of GOD, God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
why refer to the bible? u said t'was corrupt.

5. why this word ALLAH in Arabic bible?[/size]

check answer 3

@babs, i love the way and manner you reply to their questions, u would be a better husband to your wife, methinks atimes if u were born with BLESSEDKOBOKO, pls always clarify and defend the truth always, the daughters of allah theyre shouting on was pre ISLAMIC time but God used his servant Muhammad to discourage them practice,am i right my brof?

@noetic,

though u failed to give satisfactory answers to my questions, by acting very typically illiterate. Answering a question with a question.
I will however answer u cos blabs adopted ur questions.

All your questions were answered. You could not be satisfied because you have a mind set. The questions posted to you were just to straightened your reasoning. However, you woefully failed because your response seem incoherence with the questions and full of baseless reference. However, I will point out your errors in order for you to be more objective rather than being biased.

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1. what is the cognates relation between olu/oluwa(yoruba), god, lord and God semantically.
oluwa means LORD.
god refers to an idol, like the one mohammed's father abd-allah was worshipping. who had a wife called allat and three daughters.
LORD, there are many lords who preside over territories or households. But I know of the LORD of lords called JESUS.
GOD is JEHOVAH, HE is not the same person as "allah".

Logically incoherence, grammatically inbalance and scripturally incorrect. god does refers to idol only in limited concept. There are many ways in which god had been used and still being used presently. Semantically, olu/oluwa(yoruba), god, lord have the same meaning. Only GOD is differ in which if you translate to Arabic it would mean nothing other than ALLAH. Grammatically if somebody is either claimed or imposted to be LORD of lords, never mean anything special other than repetition of the word lord. Scripturally, where Jesus called himself LORD of lords other than people calling him.
You failed!lo

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2. Anlyse the words "LAILAHI ILA ALAH"
there is no other "god" except "allah"
considering that there were 360 rivals of allah in mecca at the time of mohammed's birth, this phrase was neccesary to displace the sun and moon gods amongst others. Congrats, allah is now the only god in saudi arabia. but the only annoying thing is that he asked u to conquer the rest of the world with violence. that's very bad of mr allah.

"LAILAHI ILA ALAH". Means there is no other gods except ALLAH. ILAHI is a plurality of "lah" 'gods/idols'. From arabic, something physical which you bow down/prostrate, ALLAH from arabic context, one unique and unseen supernatural being. The idolators in pre islamic period refers thiers idols as gods(illahi), just like yoruba(oluwa/olu) and or lord.

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3. how would you differentiate god from God if not written down in english.
Simply by reference. I know "sango" "obatala" "oya" "budha" "allah" are not the GOD  I serve.
Jehovah GOD is not the same as "allah" Arabs might use the idolic name of allah to refer to Jehovah, but by reference, they are referring to someone else.

Simply incoherence. I never asked for obatala/sango, you should have ref that in no1 response. god and God are the same if not written down.

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4. why there is no other translation for ELOI/ELOHIM from the bible original language up till now
because ELOHIM best captures the plurality of GOD,  God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
why refer to the bible? u said t'was corrupt.

Another shot in the leg. Eloi is Aramaic, just "my God" and not my Gods and another form is "Eli" as it was said by Jesus, which has the root word ALLAH in Arabic. The question is why could jesus used such word if ALLAH is not GOD?
ELOHIM is an hebrew word for God and mostly the biblical english writers used it as plurality "gods" in bible and not GODS. If I could be so stupid like you, based on your claim trinity and your first answer god=idol. Logically means you worshiped three idols/gods. Absolutely a failure!

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5. why this word ALLAH in Arabic bible?[/size]
check answer 3

There is no correlation in your response. The biblical writers have no other word to call God in Arabic other than ALLAH.

@Uplawal

@babs, i love the way and manner you reply to their questions, u would be a better husband to your wife, methinks atimes if u were born with BLESSEDKOBOKO, pls always clarify and defend the truth always, the daughters of allah theyre shouting on was pre ISLAMIC time but God used his servant Muhammad to discourage them practice,am i right my brof?

Thanks ma'am and please dont get me flattered . I am always a good husband to my wife, loving, caring, humorous, sexy,understanding, romantic, jovial, friendly and what have you (help me put the remaining adjective, I have forgotten )

I have been spreading the message of Islam since the day I moved from christianity to Islam and raised some threads on my former religion on NL using both books as my support but just like Allah said in the Quran, if the angels come down and show they proof, they would still not hear, so you tell them the truth and Allah would be your judge on that as He told us that we should call people to His way with wisdom knowledge and understanding and that truth has come and that no religion aside Islam would be accepted.

On the issue of wife of Allah, I asked Noetic to give where he got his fact from but told me to surf the net. I did that but couldnt see any. I told him and gave him verses where Allah mentioned allat as one of the idol ignorantly ascribed to Him as one of is daughters but the guy still told me that its a lie but he has never been able to furnish me where he got his own allat being the wife of Allah from. I even raised some threads for four of them, Noetic, No2atheism, Todak, Davidylan against myself but they messed up threads simply because they have limited knowledge.

This is the verse again where allat is mentioned.

On daughters of Allah:

Quran 53 v 19: Have ye seen Lat. and 'Uzza,

Quran 53 v 20: And another, the third (goddess), Manat?

Quran 53 v 21: What! for you the male sex, and for Him, the female?

Quran 53 v 22: Behold, such would be indeed a division most unfair!

Quran 53 v 23: These are nothing but names which ye have devised,- ye and your fathers,- for which Allah has sent down no authority (whatever). They follow nothing but conjecture and what their own souls desire!- Even though there has already come to them Guidance from their Lord!
So, over to you:

babs787:

@Uplawal


I have been spreading the message of Islam since the day I moved from christianity to Islam and raised some threads on my former religion on NL using both books as my support but just like Allah said in the Quran, if the angels come down and show they proof, they would still not hear, so you tell them the truth and Allah would be your judge on that as He told us that we should call people to His way with wisdom knowledge and understanding and that truth has come and that no religion aside Islam would be accepted.

On the issue of wife of Allah, I asked Noetic to give where he got his fact from but told me to surf the net. I did that but couldnt see any. I told him and gave him verses where Allah mentioned allat as one of the idol ignorantly ascribed to Him as one of is daughters but the guy still told me that its a lie but he has never been able to furnish me where he got his own allat being the wife of Allah from. I even raised some threads for four of them, Noetic, No2atheism, Todak, Davidylan against myself but they messed up threads simply because they have limited knowledge.

This is the verse again where allat is mentioned.

Thanks babs for the job well done. I pray I have much time as you are.

babs787:

@Uplawal



Thanks ma'am and please dont get me flattered . I am always a good husband to my wife, loving, caring, humorous, sexy,understanding, romantic, jovial, friendly and what have you (help me put the remaining adjective, I have forgotten )

I have been spreading the message of Islam since the day I moved from christianity to Islam and raised some threads on my former religion on NL using both books as my support but just like Allah said in the Quran, if the angels come down and show they proof, they would still not hear, so you tell them the truth and Allah would be your judge on that as He told us that we should call people to His way with wisdom knowledge and understanding and that truth has come and that no religion aside Islam would be accepted.

On the issue of wife of Allah, I asked Noetic to give where he got his fact from but told me to surf the net. I did that but couldnt see any. I told him and gave him verses where Allah mentioned allat as one of the idol ignorantly ascribed to Him as one of is daughters but the guy still told me that its a lie but he has never been able to furnish me where he got his own allat being the wife of Allah from. I even raised some threads for four of them, Noetic, No2atheism, Todak, Davidylan against myself but they messed up threads simply because they have limited knowledge.

This is the verse again where allat is me

ogaoooooooooooo,uncle,if truly ure of these attributes no strange woman can tresspass your wifey's territory o cos she will strike anybody , pls keep it up.As regards to what we're dicussing, i just wonder how "HIM" can be use for non humanbeing and while "IT" is used for the samething thats not human,also does it make sense if i give u something freely without going to my father to beg him so that i can give u? and later tell u that i will give u the samething i gave you before, but will beg my father to send HIM to you while am gone, but i will not send HIM to you until i go back to my FATHER, could it ever be possible to give you while am not gone and still be saying will give you until am gone?

when i ask about it, someone said HIS or HER can be used for non human,like "SHE" is used for a country, if then ,so, the "SHE "should be used for it throughtout and not "IT" again.

@Uplawal

ogaoooooooooooo,uncle,if truly ure of these attributes no strange woman can tresspass your wifey's territory o cos she will strike anybody , pls keep it up.

Thank you ma'am

As regards to what we're dicussing, i just wonder how "HIM" can be use for non humanbeing and while "IT" is used for the samething thats not human,also does it make sense if i give u something freely without going to my father to beg him so that i can give u? and later tell u that i will give u the samething i gave you before, but will beg my father to send HIM to you while am gone, but i will not send HIM to you until i go back to my FATHER, could it ever be possible to give you while am not gone and still be saying will give you until am gone?

I wonder too. Those posted above and many others made me leave Christianity. The pastors told me that, thats how they have been told to believe when I went to some with issues I came across in the bible. Your post above referred to 'comforter' in which they claimed talked about Holy Spirit having forgotten that Holy Spirit has been in existence since creation and Jesus saying 'another' couldnt have been for 'another Holy Spirit'.

when i ask about it, someone said HIS or HER can be used for non human,like "SHE" is used for a country, if then ,so, the "SHE "should be used for it throughtout and not "IT" again.

We will keep praying for them that Allah show them the truth just like He did for you and myself.

@Littleb

Thanks babs for the job well done. I pray I have much time as you are.

Jazakhullah and Barka Jumuah my dear brother. We need to keep them in checks since they have been misinformed/programmed and are inclined to falsehood, never to reason or read the glaring truth. They keep making denials when truth, facts is being supplied and not being able to support their denials with facts. There is difference between arguing/debating with facts and another debating/arguing making denials/assumptions with nothing to back same up. They fall in the latter category.

I have gained lots from your posts and May Allah continue to increase your knowledge and make Islam easy for you as well as the entire Muslims and may we never see any problem that would want to make us leave Islam

uplawal:

ogaoooooooooooo,uncle,if truly ure of these attributes no strange woman can tresspass your wifey's territory o cos she will strike anybody , pls keep it up.As regards to what we're dicussing, i just wonder how "HIM" can be use for non humanbeing and while "IT" is used for the samething thats not human,also does it make sense if i give u something freely without going to my father to beg him so that i can give u? and later tell u that i will give u the samething i gave you before, but will beg my father to send HIM to you while am gone, but i will not send HIM to you until i go back to my FATHER, could it ever be possible to give you while am not gone and still be saying will give you until am gone?

when i ask about it, someone said HIS or HER can be used for non human,like "SHE" is used for a country, if then ,so, the "SHE "should be used for it throughtout and not "IT" again.

littleb:

Thanks babs for the job well done. I pray I have much time as you are.

uplawal:

ogaoooooooooooo,uncle,if truly ure of these attributes no strange woman can tresspass your wifey's territory o cos she will strike anybody , pls keep it up.As regards to what we're dicussing, i just wonder how "HIM" can be use for non humanbeing and while "IT" is used for the samething thats not human,also does it make sense if i give u something freely without going to my father to beg him so that i can give u? and later tell u that i will give u the samething i gave you before, but will beg my father to send HIM to you while am gone, but i will not send HIM to you until i go back to my FATHER, could it ever be possible to give you while am not gone and still be saying will give you until am gone?

when i ask about it, someone said HIS or HER can be used for non human,like "SHE" is used for a country, if then ,so, the "SHE "should be used for it throughtout and not "IT" again.

littleb:

Thanks babs for the job well done. I pray I have much time as you are.

uplawal:

ogaoooooooooooo,uncle,if truly ure of these attributes no strange woman can tresspass your wifey's territory o cos she will strike anybody , pls keep it up.As regards to what we're dicussing, i just wonder how "HIM" can be use for non humanbeing and while "IT" is used for the samething thats not human,also does it make sense if i give u something freely without going to my father to beg him so that i can give u? and later tell u that i will give u the samething i gave you before, but will beg my father to send HIM to you while am gone, but i will not send HIM to you until i go back to my FATHER, could it ever be possible to give you while am not gone and still be saying will give you until am gone?

when i ask about it, someone said HIS or HER can be used for non human,like "SHE" is used for a country, if then ,so, the "SHE "should be used for it throughtout and not "IT" again.

babs787:

@Uplawal



Thanks ma'am and please dont get me flattered . I am always a good husband to my wife, loving, caring, humorous, sexy,understanding, romantic, jovial, friendly and what have you (help me put the remaining adjective, I have forgotten )

I have been spreading the message of Islam since the day I moved from christianity to Islam and raised some threads on my former religion on NL using both books as my support but just like Allah said in the Quran, if the angels come down and show they proof, they would still not hear, so you tell them the truth and Allah would be your judge on that as He told us that we should call people to His way with wisdom knowledge and understanding and that truth has come and that no religion aside Islam would be accepted.

On the issue of wife of Allah, I asked Noetic to give where he got his fact from but told me to surf the net. I did that but couldnt see any. I told him and gave him verses where Allah mentioned allat as one of the idol ignorantly ascribed to Him as one of is daughters but the guy still told me that its a lie but he has never been able to furnish me where he got his own allat being the wife of Allah from. I even raised some threads for four of them, Noetic, No2atheism, Todak, Davidylan against myself but they messed up threads simply because they have limited knowledge.

This is the verse again where allat is mentioned.

@Babs
Amen o, one day they will be delivered of lies, and could you imagine if am not judging myself,atleast i was a born again christian o but still was confused about it,some pastors claim to have the holy spirit in them but still STAGE MIRACLES AND TESTIMONIES,u see the extent at which Gods spirit is soiled, they don't even call on GOD again since GOD is divided into three,but then as a christian do we have to leave aside BABA GOD and just concentrate worship on the sonGOD,and worship his spirit too since he's divideded, some churches don't even worship the songod but his mother and call her MOTHER OF GOD.

Then we will all be singing jesu seun fun mi,jesu o jesu oooo and so on, hardly will you hear us say GOD did it, what i heard is that we should pray through him to GOD but what i see and hear is pure worship and just leaving GOD aside.

uplawal:

@Babs
Amen o, one day they will be delivered of lies, and could you imagine if am not judging myself,atleast i was a born again christian o but still was confused about it,some pastors claim to have the holy spirit in them but still STAGE MIRACLES AND TESTIMONIES,u see the extent at which Gods spirit is soiled, they don't even call on GOD again since GOD is divided into three,but then as a christian do we have to leave aside BABA GOD and just concentrate worship on the sonGOD,and worship his spirit too since he's divideded,  some churches don't even worship the songod but his mother and call her MOTHER OF GOD.

Then we will all be singing jesu seun fun mi,jesu o jesu oooo and so on, hardly will you hear us say GOD did it, what i heard is that we should pray through him to GOD but what i see and hear  is pure worship and just leaving GOD aside.

That is exactly what they are!Liars! My sister, there will be no deliverance until Jesus is back. The antagonists of Islam have started long ago, right from the prophethood of Muhammad(SAW). Christianity have become a religion of transformation from what was existed to non existing. Thereby, they will never be one in their doctrines. In my younger age in early 80's, what I used to hear about Jesus was only son of God, now it has been promoted to God. However, some amongst them against it, while some are hypocritical, neither to the right nor left. We asked pastors, if Jesus is God, then  who was controlling the world when he was killed for three days? Then, you see them performing mathematical logic. Three in one, which Jesus himself never knew.



As for miracles. If not because people have been brainwashed, one of the major criteria of FAKE PASTORS is miracle. This is in line with Jesus statement according to thier book. But now you see late world pastors claiming and distributing miracles and wonders like sweets. You see, my sister, as a statement from our Imam shafii, I quote, "All humans are dead except those who have knowledge ,  And all those who have knowledge are asleep, except those who do good deeds ,  And those who do good are deceived, except those who are sincere ,  And those who are sincere are always in a state of worry”. That is the state of world religions. People would continue to be deceived till world ends, and this would capture majority.

Islamically, muslims should not have hatred for Christians but engaged in peaceful dialogue with them on worshiping one GOD and not associating partners with Him. Ironically, they will not accept your injunction from Quran and Hadith, because most of their questions lack sincerity. They even hate us more than we love them coz thier minds have polluted about Islam. They even simulate the Quran, named "THE TRUE FURQAN" in order to decieve people.

Islam is the only religion that has everything both spiritual and mundane, never mind thier weak and limpid propaganda. Islam is peaceful, being peaceful doesn't mean submissive to oppressors which most misunderstood. Islam is not christianity and can never be. Islam has laws and order guiding every aspect of human endeavors, there is no such laws in christianity. By which I mean that there is no Christian structure of society, no Christian legal system, and no Christian rules as to how a society is to be formed. For example the sharia laws guiding marraige,politics,war etc.
And as a Muslim, for one to be properly guided, you need two things; the Quran and Hadith, you don't need much from any alfa/Malam, either in miracle or the likes. And in state of confusion, just exercise patience untill you get the clearity. May almighty Allah increase our knowledge and count us amongst those He will be admitted to paradise.

littleb:

@noetic,

All your questions were answered. You could not be satisfied because you have a mind set. The questions posted to you were just to straightened your reasoning. However, you woefully failed because your response seem incoherence with the questions and full of baseless reference. However, I will point out your errors in order for you to be more objective rather than being biased.


Logically incoherence, grammatically inbalance and scripturally incorrect. god does refers to idol only in limited concept. There are many ways in which god had been used and still being used presently. Semantically, olu/oluwa(yoruba), god, lord have the same meaning. Only GOD is differ in which if you translate to Arabic it would mean nothing other than ALLAH. Grammatically if somebody is either claimed or imposted to be LORD of lords, never mean anything special other than repetition of the word lord. Scripturally, where Jesus called himself LORD of lords other than people calling him.
You failed!lo



"LAILAHI ILA ALAH". Means there is no other gods except ALLAH. ILAHI is a plurality of "lah" 'gods/idols'. From arabic, something physical which you bow down/prostrate, ALLAH from arabic context, one unique and unseen supernatural being. The idolators in pre islamic period refers thiers idols as gods(illahi), just like yoruba(oluwa/olu) and or lord.

Simply incoherence. I never asked for obatala/sango, you should have ref that in no1 response. god and God are the same if not written down.


Another shot in the leg. Eloi is Aramaic, just "my God" and not my Gods and another form is "Eli" as it was said by Jesus, which has the root word ALLAH in Arabic. The question is why could jesus used such word if ALLAH is not GOD?
ELOHIM is an hebrew word for God and mostly the biblical english writers used it as plurality "gods" in bible and not GODS. If I could be so stupid like you, based on your claim trinity and your first answer god=idol. Logically means you worshiped three idols/gods. Absolutely a failure!

There is no correlation in your response. The biblical writers have no other word to call God in Arabic other than ALLAH.

what rubbish is all this u wrote?

@neotic,

noetic:

what rubbish is all this u wrote?

All could not be rubbished. Just point out the rubbish part and correct me since we are all learners.

littleb:

@neotic,
All could not be rubbished. Just point out the rubbish part and correct me since we are all learners.

I am sorry if I was harsh, but I dont think u should start a response by telling me that all my questions have been answered and then discard my questions on the basis that I have a set mindset.

littleb:

@noetic,

All your questions were answered. You could not be satisfied because you have a mind set. The questions posted to you were just to straightened your reasoning. However, you woefully failed because your response seem incoherence with the questions and full of baseless reference. However, I will point out your errors in order for you to be more objective rather than being biased.

This is very false and subsequently rubbish.

Logically incoherence, grammatically inbalance and scripturally incorrect. god does refers to idol only in limited concept. There are many ways in which god had been used and still being used presently.

logically I dont believe u are competent enough to decide if my analysis of "god" is right or wrong. Cos u have a pre-conceived mindset of equating allah (god) to GOD. so how could I be logically wrong?
grammatically "god" is not the same as "GOD". I expected u to know that. so how could I be grammatically wrong?
Spiritually, there is no connection whatsoever between "mohammed" as a prophet and the bible. his coming was never foretold.
There is also no connection between "allah" and Jehovah GOD. u have been unable to explain the mysterious "allah" mohammed's father worshipped. so how could my analysis be spiritually wrong?

Semantically, olu/oluwa(yoruba), god, lord have the same meaning.

This is not true. "god" refers to an idol. GOD is Jehovah.

Only GOD is differ in which if you translate to Arabic it would mean nothing other than ALLAH. Grammatically if somebody is either claimed or imposted to be LORD of lords, never mean anything special other than repetition of the word lord. Scripturally, where Jesus called himself LORD of lords other than people calling him.
You failed!lo

why would u base ur argument on a linguistic translation?
"allah" had a wife and children and was worshipped alongside 360 other idols before the coming of mohammed. mohammed only elevated him to be the only "god" of arabia. I believe he deceptively assumed that allah is GOD.

"LAILAHI ILA ALAH". Means there is no other gods except ALLAH. ILAHI is a plurality of "lah" 'gods/idols'. From arabic, something physical which you bow down/prostrate, ALLAH from arabic context, one unique and unseen supernatural being. The idolators in pre islamic period refers thiers idols as gods(illahi), just like yoruba(oluwa/olu) and or lord.

whats new in this, that disproves what i stated earlier?

Another shot in the leg. Eloi is Aramaic, just "my God" and not my Gods and another form is "Eli" as it was said by Jesus, which has the root word ALLAH in Arabic. The question is why could jesus used such word if ALLAH is not GOD?
ELOHIM is an hebrew word for God and mostly the biblical english writers used it as plurality "gods" in bible and not GODS. If I could be so stupid like you, based on your claim trinity and your first answer god=idol. Logically means you worshiped three idols/gods. Absolutely a failure!

uhmn

There is no correlation in your response. The biblical writers have no other word to call God in Arabic other than ALLAH.

I believe I already told u y.

do u now agree with me that ur post was meaningless?

@noetic
tell me if ALLAH is not GOD why do the HAUSA'S and ARABIC CHRISTIANS refer to him as ALLAH, the HAUSA'S says NAGODE ALLAH, NAGODE ALLAH ALLAH SERIKI, or are they worshipping idol? he just made himself more acceptable by using ISLAM to correct the contraditions of the bible, SHALLOM, AS SALLAM,ALAFIA all means PEACE.

uplawal:

@noetic
tell me if ALLAH is not GOD why do the HAUSA'S and ARABIC CHRISTIANS refer to him as ALLAH, the HAUSA'S says NAGODE ALLAH, NAGODE ALLAH ALLAH SERIKI, or are they worshipping idol? he just made himself more acceptable by using ISLAM to correct the contraditions of the bible, SHALLOM, AS SALLAM,ALAFIA all means PEACE.

whats the meaning of all this?
did u read my last post at all?

Quote from: uplawal on Today at 02:59:58 AM
@noetic
tell me if ALLAH is not GOD why do the HAUSA'S and ARABIC CHRISTIANS refer to him as ALLAH, the HAUSA'S says NAGODE ALLAH, NAGODE ALLAH ALLAH SERIKI, or are they worshipping idol? he just made himself more acceptable by using ISLAM to correct the contraditions of the bible, SHALLOM, AS SALLAM,ALAFIA all means PEACE.
whats the meaning of all this?
did u read my last post at all?

my sister, just leave neotic for me, this is just a matter of language. Even, in their bible, there is salam alaykum, which christians would deny it is only peculiar to muslims. Neotic would tell the whole world maybe jesus was ignorant of JEHOVAH as the true name of GOD before he said "ELOI ELOI ELOI LEMA SABAKTANI". He does not even research very well that Allah is a root word in Arabic.

@neotic,

I am sorry if I was harsh, but I dont think u should start a response by telling me that all my questions have been answered and then discard my questions on the basis that I have a set mindset.

I don't think you are harsh, but you are parochialy thinkworth in your response.

logically I dont believe u are competent enough to decide if my analysis of "god" is right or wrong. Cos u have a pre-conceived mindset of equating allah (god) to GOD. so how could I be logically wrong?
grammatically "god" is not the same as "GOD". I expected u to know that. so how could I be grammatically wrong?
Spiritually, there is no connection whatsoever between "mohammed" as a prophet and the bible. his coming was never foretold.
There is also no connection between "allah" and Jehovah GOD. u have been unable to explain the mysterious "allah" mohammed's father worshipped. so how could my analysis be spiritually wrong?

See, I don't equate ALLAH to GOD. Historically, grammatically and scripturally undeniable ALLAH=GOD. god not equal GOD admittedly. However, grammatically, Lord of Lords never equal to GOD. If I begin to analyse the verse where the lord of lords appear in the bible you will get tired of this conversation. Moreso, your fellow christians will even deny that Jehovah is God's name because Jesus never recognise that name from your bible. So, where do you want to hide?

GOD is Jehovah.

Many christians deny that. Even Jesus never used the word, JEHOVAH.

why would u base ur argument on a linguistic translation?
"allah" had a wife and children and was worshipped alongside 360 other idols before the coming of mohammed. mohammed only elevated him to be the only "god" of arabia. I believe he deceptively assumed that allah is GOD.

Mr man, I am not a learner regarding arab history and arabic. Are you a student of arab history? I read it as a course. Site your historical books and authors to ref allah, his wife and children. I have many arab manuscripts regarding pre islamic period in MAKKAH. If Muhammad elevated one of the idols, why were the arabs against him? The idols worshipped in makkah were all physical (lat, Uzza etc), and as yoruba would called egungun, my lord(oluwa mi), my lord(oluwa mi), they also refer them as illahi or illah. In arabic, first character is "alif with kezro". Allah is "alif with fatha". Why will you be more knowledgible than arabs, historian and linquistics? From Quran, babs has already explain to you where Lat, Uzza were cleared. That is why I said you have a mindset.

littleb:

Another shot in the leg. Eloi is Aramaic, just "my God" and not my Gods and another form is "Eli" as it was said by Jesus, which has the root word ALLAH in Arabic. The question is why could jesus used such word if ALLAH is not GOD?
ELOHIM is an hebrew word for God and mostly the biblical english writers used it as plurality "gods" in bible and not GODS. If I could be so stupid like you, based on your claim trinity and your first answer god=idol. Logically means you worshiped three idols/gods. Absolutely a failure!

There is no correlation in your response. The biblical writers have no other word to call God in Arabic other than ALLAH.

You have no response to that?

@noetic
they almost killed him because he was preaching on ALLAH because the pre ISLAM were aborishas.

littleb:

@neotic,

I don't think you are harsh, but you are parochialy thinkworth in your response.



See, I don't equate ALLAH to GOD. Historically, grammatically and scripturally undeniable ALLAH=GOD. god not equal GOD admittedly. However, grammatically, Lord of Lords never equal to GOD. If I begin to analyse the verse where the lord of lords appear in the bible you will get tired of this conversation. Moreso, your fellow christians will even deny that Jehovah is God's name because Jesus never recognise that name from your bible. So, where do you want to hide?


Many christians deny that. Even Jesus never used the word, JEHOVAH.


Mr man, I am not a learner regarding arab history and arabic. Are you a student of arab history? I read it as a course. Site your historical books and authors to ref allah, his wife and children. I have many arab manuscripts regarding pre islamic period in MAKKAH. If Muhammad elevated one of the idols, why were the arabs against him? The idols worshipped in makkah were all physical (lat, Uzza etc), and as yoruba would called egungun, my lord(oluwa mi), my lord(oluwa mi), they also refer them as illahi or illah. In arabic, first character is "alif with kezro". Allah is "alif with fatha". Why will you be more knowledgible than arabs, historian and linquistics? From Quran, babs has already explain to you where Lat, Uzza were cleared. That is why I said you have a mindset.


You have no response to that?

I honestly cant deduce anything from this.

uplawal:

@noetic
they almost killed him because he was preaching on ALLAH because the pre ISLAM were aborishas.

was allah not worshipped before the birth of mohammed?

@noetic

ALLAH was worshipped in the pre islamic period by the ARABS but not as a deity, he was worshipped as a universal GOD, the ONE that created the UNIVERSE,EARTH, ADAM, but the people worship several idols with him, thats why he gave ISLAM to show them better how he should be worshipped, examples of how the YORUBAS worship the orishas like sango,oya,ogun, saponna, and the IBOS e.g amadioha, etc but they all still reverence the ALMIHGTY GOD ALLAH i.e CHINEKE,OLORUN-ELEDUMARE,thats how it was then that time, all those internet ones ure reading is not true is just antagonising ISLAM because ISLAM emphasises the worship of one supreme GOD OF CREATION.

Babz only Allah can reward you abundantly, i must confess am really impress, the cross worshippers ve outnumbered the muslim but yet you defeated them all, since i became a nairalander ve always been impressed with ur posting, jazakallahu, matthew 27;46 says it all. Matthew 10;34 is an insult to the worshippers of the cross. I end up by saying may Allah enrich ur knowledge amin. Masalam.

uplawal:

@noetic

ALLAH was worshipped in the pre islamic period by the ARABS[b] but not as a deity[/b], he was worshipped as a universal GOD, the ONE that created the UNIVERSE,EARTH, ADAM, but the people worship several idols with him, thats why he gave ISLAM to show them better how he should be worshipped, examples of how the YORUBAS worship the orishas like sango,oya,ogun, saponna, and the IBOS e.g amadioha, etc but they all still reverence the ALMIHGTY GOD ALLAH i.e CHINEKE,OLORUN-ELEDUMARE,thats how it was then that time, all those internet ones ure reading is not true is just antagonising ISLAM because ISLAM emphasises the worship of one supreme GOD OF CREATION.

This is false. I will spare u the questions cos u are new to islam.

but pls do a little research on pre-mohammed allah, allat, their daughters and the 360 gods of arabia one of whom mohammed's father abd-allah worshipped.

meanwhile, do u know u might get killed (a fatwa might be issued), if u choose to re-convert from islam. what a religion!