Youngzedd:


Your fund I do not have. Our deal was closed last year.

I won't cough out 500 USD when I know it's not in my possession.

Why was your account closed/limited in the first place if it was clean

Same have also happened to me, from a Nairalander, and I didn't go about making noise because I know this business is not for faint hearted.
He used my account to receive PayPal for web hosting, my account got limited, same month it will be 180 they deducted the money from my balance.

Abegi free me.

This is one of the main reason I am very skeptical about all these currency deals or PayPal ppl keep saying they are selling. It seems you are justifying the sale of the fraudulent PayPal funds you sold and which has resulted in the financial loss of the victim as a normal business loss he should accept and not complain about. The money he sent to you obviously has no issues or reversal but the PayPal you sent had reversal and was fraudulent and yet you have the audacity to keep telling him to accept it as a normal thing! You are not even remorseful that he lost his money through you or that you will pay him back even if it is 50$ or 100$ out of the 500$ he lost! I am even more shocked at the response and silence of so called scammers detectives here who have kept silent on this allegation and obvious scam for reasons best known to them but will be chasing new monikers and be acting like good people. I am sorry for anyone that still buys PayPal from here because it is most likely fraudulent and will result in "business loss". I believe if others PayPal funds are genuine they should have called you out and castigated you for ur comments. I don't know tumbaba but u are very lucky he is a patient man, from all indications you knew the funds that was been sent was fraudulent. Most likely majority of those buying PayPal here should be expecting similar issues like yours from their sellers too since according to you it is normal business loss.

tumababa:


D bolded really got me laughing. It shows you are used to this sweet way of scamming people. You will soon meet your match.

I remember 3 of us here warned ppl about buying all these us PayPal things then but ppl here didn't take us serious. I am sure that ur own case is just one of the many numerous case which many have decided not to talk about. When it comes to money deals even the best monikers turn to evil ones ,i have my rule and it has helped me a lot on this thread and that is I DONT TRUST ANYONE HERE,therefore I will deal with people based on the fact that he or she proves to me the legitimacy of funds been sent and not on the issue of saying he or she is a popular person on nairaland .
But forget the issue and move on, this I know you have already done .

onatisi:

I remember 3 of us here warned ppl about buying all these us PayPal things then but ppl here didn't take us serious. I am sure that ur own case is just one of the many numerous case which many have decided not to talk about. When it comes to money deals even the best monikers turn to evil ones ,i have my rule and it has helped me a lot on this thread and that is I DONT TRUST ANYONE HERE,therefore I will deal with people based on the fact that he or she proves to me the legitimacy of funds been sent and not on the issue of saying he or she is a popular person on nairaland .
But forget the issue and move on, this I know you have already done .

I have surely moved on but will feel guilty if I don't warn people based on my experience

onatisi:

This is one of the main reason I am very skeptical about all these currency deals or PayPal ppl keep saying they are selling. It seems you are justifying the sale of the fraudulent PayPal funds you sold and which has resulted in the financial loss of the victim as a normal business loss he should accept and not complain about. The money he sent to you obviously has no issues or reversal but the PayPal you sent had reversal and was fraudulent and yet you have the audacity to keep telling him to accept it as a normal thing! You are not even remorseful that he lost his money through you or that you will pay him back even if it is 50$ or 100$ out of the 500$ he lost! I am even more shocked at the response and silence of so called scammers detectives here who have kept silent on this allegation and obvious scam for reasons best known to them but will be chasing new monikers and be acting like good people. I am sorry for anyone that still buys PayPal from here because it is most likely fraudulent and will result in "business loss". I believe if others PayPal funds are genuine they should have called you out and castigated you for ur comments. I don't know tumbaba but u are very lucky he is a patient man, from all indications you knew the funds that was been sent was fraudulent. Most likely majority of those buying PayPal here should be expecting similar issues like yours from their sellers too since according to you it is normal business loss.

I don't and will never buy and sell fraudulent funds even though we do see it on daily basis at cheap price.

This is the only such case it happened. And I ain't happy, I felt so bad, but this is really beyond my control.

I verify every fund I purchase.

If you don't know what to say STFU


This is Youngzedd

Stanley08:
Well, i Understand tumababa's frustration, at the same time maybe Youngzedd wasn't conscious of what happened. Anyways sorry sha.

This your comment should have remained as a thought instead of typing it.

If this incident had happened to you, I can bet you will shout blue murder for 11years.

If you would rightly be cautious on a potential scammer, you shouldnt type anything like this, especially knowing how it's turned out. Don't give cheating or scamming an impetus.

Etinosajay:


This your comment should have remained as a thought instead of typing it.

If this incident has happened to you, I can bet you will shout blue murder for 11years.

If you would rightly be cautious on a potential scammer, you shouldnt type anything like this, especially know how it's turned out. Don't give cheating or scamming an impetus.

What would you do if you're in my shoe?

Ask Tumababa how many transactions we had. We have done many transactions.

Don't just come here and vomit rubbish simply because you know how to.


I didn't start e-currency business today, and I ain't leaving soon. I have businesses online and I won't run because of 500 dolls.


I also lost huge sum on PayPal, though I regretted the day I purchased that particular fund that got reversed, trust fu(ked me up.

I went to the extent of giving him detail of the account owner. After discussing with him and some days later He resurface.

If he wants us to roast the guy after the guy's explanation, we do just that.

Youngzedd:


I don't and will never buy and sell fraudulent funds even though we do see it on daily basis at cheap price.

This is the only such case it happened. And I ain't happy, I felt so bad, but this is really beyond my control.

I verify every fund I purchase.

If you don't know what to say STFU


This is Youngzedd

Then you shouldn't have talked to Tumababa that way. You're not the one who made the money he lost.

For anything sake, you just apologise and not add any offensive word like Abeg free me.

You don't tell a child being beaten not to cry. He has the right to cry from now till Jesus comes, because he lost money.

On Tumababa's case, you can't claim no innocence.

I know you will quote me to insult me, but at least I have said what makes sense.

Etinosajay:


This your comment should have remained as a thought instead of typing it.

If this incident has happened to you, I can bet you will shout blue murder for 11years.

If you would rightly be cautious on a potential scammer, you shouldnt type anything like this, especially know how it's turned out. Don't give cheating or scamming an impetus.

And sorry, who are you again? Back to your cage abeg.

Etinosajay:


Then you shouldn't have talked to Tumababa that way. You're not the one who made the money he lost.

For anything sake, you just apologise and not add any offensive word like Abeg free me.

You don't tell a child being beaten not to cry. He has the right to cry from now till Jesus comes, because he lost money.

On Tumababa's case, you can't claim no innocence.

I know you will quote me to insult me, but at least I have said what makes sense.

Heaven knows I really tried to fix this, but it was beyond my control.

I don't leak client information, He's the first person I sent client details just for him to know that I got no idea of what happened.

This is the only fund I regretted buying in my life. This is my conversation with the guy yesterday.

I am pained that such occurred between me and Tumababa but He just doesn't understand.

Etinosajay:


This your comment should have remained as a thought instead of typing it.

If this incident has happened to you, I can bet you will shout blue murder for 11years.

If you would rightly be cautious on a potential scammer, you shouldnt type anything like this, especially know how it's turned out. Don't give cheating or scamming an impetus.

Etinosajay:

Then you shouldn't have talked to Tumababa that way. You're not the one who made the money he lost.
For anything sake, you just apologise and not add any offensive word like Abeg free me.
You don't tell a child being beaten not to cry. He has the right to cry from now till Jesus comes, because he lost money.
On Tumababa's case, you can't claim no innocence.
I know you will quote me to insult me, but at least I have said what makes sense.

God bless you more than bill gates.
Can you imagine that the is still beating his chest and not covering his face despite the fact that he sold stolen money!!!

Youngzedd:


What would you do if you're in my shoe?

Ask Tumababa how many transactions we had. We have done many transactions.

Don't just come here and vomit rubbish simply because you know how to.


I didn't start e-currency business today, and I ain't leaving soon. I have businesses online and I won't run because of 500 dolls.


I also lost huge sum on PayPal, though I regretted the day I purchased that particular fund that got reversed even after my verification.

I went to the extent of giving him detail of the account owner. After discussing with him and some days later He resurface.

If he wants us to roast the guy after the guy's explanation, we do just that.

I said it. I know you will cook insults to serve me.

So I'm now vomiting rubbish

Look oga, he's business was with you, Not with the account owner. So don't open your mouth and ask us what Tumababa wants you to do.

Like I said, if he complains he is right to do so, matter of fact, why won't he?

Didn't you make profit from the business? Did you lose that profit when he lost his money?

In your words, business is profit and loss. So in similar vane, business brings good name and bad name. And in this case it gave you a bad name, so accept it.

You may be a real and genuine naira lander 99 percent of the times, on this one, you should continue to accept the fraudulent name tag, after all it's business.

Like I said, if you had just said sorry to him when he Said that, I personally won't make any replies.

Youngzedd:


Heaven knows I really tried to fix this, but it was beyond my control.

I don't leak client information, He's the first person I sent client details just for him to know that I got no idea of what happened.

This is the only fund I regretted buying in my life. This is my conversation with the guy yesterday.

I am pained that such occurred between me and Tumababa but He just doesn't understand.

I already said what you should have said or done.

Tumababa didn't go to arrest you or put you in deep shit. If he had done so, he would be right, but he didn't .

But stop telling him not to complain or to move on. Shuu

And on top of it insulting other people that made a comment.

You will not fancy that being done to you.

#000000

mayorall:



Can still go for reversal within 6 months. Buy via invoice plus note on the PayPal.

They don't know any of these, or his account can even be flagged as fraud and Limited afterwards. Sending paypal payments within seconds or minutes is not the issue but can the Paypal fund stand the test of Time? 6months.

Stanley08:


And sorry, who are you again? Back to your cage abeg.

You're very stupid. Who am I again?

The fact you have free time to come here and show yourself, you think that makes you more nairalander than me?

click on my moniker and know how long I've been around here.


Now you've shown you're such a hypocrite.

onatisi:

God bless you more than bill gates.
Can you imagine that the is still beating his chest and not covering his face despite the fact that he sold stolen money!!!

So I should serve him for a decade just to show how remorseful I am abi?

I have really reason with him long ago. I ain't a coward to fold my arms while things happen, I have to stand up and defend myself.

We have communicated through various medium when it all started.

So don't think I like what happened, I don't because it's a detent to my business which I have been trying to avoid all these years.

The fund was sent as FAMILY and FRIENDS. (Never accept this from anyone)

I have learnt my lessons, I just gotta move on. I really feel so bad it happened this way. Paypal wahala is just beyond me. Those guys are crazy set of people, same thing they did to Tumababa they did same to my USA account one company that deals on Web hosting used my PayPal to receive funds, later my account got limited, same month it will be 180 days the money was reversed back to the sender telling me bla bla.

I looked at it and just let it slide, it's one of those things. Also I have a useless cheque of 400 USD from PayPal, no bank was able to clear it. One of those loss.

I wish I could undo this.

Ok

Etinosajay:


I said it. I know you will cook insults to serve me.

So I'm now vomiting rubbing.

Look oga, he's business was with you, Not with the account owner. So don't open your mouth and ask us what Tumababa wants you to do.

Like I said, if he complains he is right to do so, matter of fact, why won't he?

Didn't you make profit from the business? Did you lose that profit when he lost his money?

In your words, business is profit and loss. So in similar vain, business brings good name and bad name. And in this case it gave you a bad name, so accept it.

You may be a real and genuine naira lander 99 percent of the times, on this one, you should continue to accept the fraudulent name tag, after all it's business.

Like I said, if you had just said sorry to him when he Said that, I personally won't make any replies.

How did you know I haven't apologies to him

Youngzedd:


So I should serve him for a decade just to show how remorseful I am abi?

I have really reason with him long ago. I ain't a coward to fold my arms while things happen, I have to stand up and defend myself.

We have communicated through various medium when it all started.

So don't think I like what happened, I don't because it's a detent to my business which I have been trying to avoid all these years.

The fund was sent as FAMILY and FRIENDS. (Never accept this from anyone)

I have learnt my lessons, I just gotta move on. I really feel so bad it happened this way. Paypal wahala is just beyond me. Those guys are crazy set of people, same thing they did to Tumababa they did same to my USA account one company that deals on Web hosting used my PayPal to receive funds, later my account got limited, same month it will be 180 days the money was reversed back to the sender telling me bla bla.

I looked at it and just let it slide, it's one of those things. Also I have a useless cheque of 400 USD from PayPal, no bank was able to clear it. One of those loss.

I wish I could undo this.

Now you are talking reasonably . Tumbaba has moved on,but I believe u should at least minimize his loss no matter how small.i believe he will appreciate it and it will boost ur image . But claiming you wont give anything back will leave a big stain on your business profile and name . You don't even need to tell anyone here what the agreement is between you and him and with that he wont mention your name again

Youngzedd:


So I should serve him for a decade just to show how remorseful I am abi?

I have really reason with him long ago. I ain't a coward to fold my arms while things happen, I have to stand up and defend myself.

We have communicated through various medium when it all started.

So don't think I like what happened, I don't because it's a detent to my business which I have been trying to avoid all these years.

The fund was sent as FAMILY and FRIENDS. (Never accept this from anyone)

I have learnt my lessons, I just gotta move on. I really feel so bad it happened this way. Paypal wahala is just beyond me. Those guys are crazy set of people, same thing they did to Tumababa they did same to my USA account one company that deals on Web hosting used my PayPal to receive funds, later my account got limited, same month it will be 180 days the money was reversed back to the sender telling me bla bla.

I looked at it and just let it slide, it's one of those things. Also I have a useless cheque of 400 USD from PayPal, no bank was able to clear it. One of those loss.

I wish I could undo this.

From your chat attachment, i recognized that shirt as one of my long time customers for Importation business, confirm to me that his name starts with If.......... or J........ and then i will say more.

But i will keep saying it like i told you on your thread, you are responsible to refund Tumababa because it's not his business with the third party that sold you the Paypal fund.

Confirm the name because i know that person(customer) you are claiming sent you the stolen fund.

onatisi:

Now you are talking reasonably . Tumbaba has moved on,but I believe u should at least minimize his loss no matter how small.i believe he will appreciate it and it will boost ur image . But claiming you wont give anything back will leave a big stain on your business profile and name . You don't even need to tell anyone here what the agreement is between you and him and with that he wont mention your name again

Mr Tumababa

I don't know your discussion with the account owner, but if you aren't okay with whatever He said to you, let me know so that we go fishing.

We do whatever it takes to recover the money, even if it requires the guy spending the rest of his life over the counter.


This said incident made me lose sleep for days when the case came up, I consulted a lot of people, I did a lot of stuff just to ensure this got sorted out but I couldn't.

I tagged it "Worst Transaction Ever".

Youngzedd:


How did you know I haven't apologies to him

I didn't know, onatisi didn't know.

My comment came when I saw how you replied him. Try to put yourself in the shoes of others most times especially in business.

You may not be a bad person, I know your good history as well, but this one transaction went sour for Tumababa, and you were the conduit.

History doesn't only write our good deeds, otherwise it would be self preserving.

The matter has been long yea, and probably you expect him not to complain anymore. But it's in history already. So I believe you too should accept the fact that, a transaction you conducted turned out to burn the buyer. Then you can both move on

Etinosajay:


I didn't know, onatisi didn't know.

My comment came when I saw how you replied him. Try to put yourself in the shoes of others most times especially in business.

You may not be a bad person, I know your good history as well, but this one transaction went sour for Tumababa, and you were the conduit.

History doesn't only write our good deeds, otherwise it would be self preserving.

The matter has been long yea, and probably you expect him not to complain anymore. But it's in history already. So I believe you too should accept the fact that, a transaction you conducted turned out to burn the buyer. Then you can both move on

Copy that.

justi4jesu:

They don't know any of these, or his account can even be flagged as fraud and Limited afterwards. Sending paypal payments within seconds or minutes is not the issue but can the Paypal fund stand the test of Time? 6months.

Justi, the funds you sell. Are they via invoice and note? As mayorall adviced.

Mehn, this PayPal issue is something else. I will rather fund thru my debit card.

aleshsenior2000:
Mehn, this PayPal issue is something else. I will rather fund thru my debit card.

I reckon we all would mate. But since Nigerian government hasn't given PayPal the green light to enable receiving of funds on Nigerian PayPal accounts, and the rate of dollar too. That's what it is now. If every bank had a flat rate of like 200 now, even 300 and then no absurd limits on cards daily/monthly. The amount of people looking for PayPal funds will be minute. Or inexistent even. We hope it gets better and soon.

My simple advice, when you want to purchase paypal fund, send the seller an invoice requesting payment for a service.

Some people will busy be claiming jagaban online ... Some people don't even know about paypal rules
But wetin concern me?


One thing I know for sure is that if you are running paypal from Nigeria even if you are use heaven VPN..always expect the worst, I have been there and have paid the price

Singapore1:
Some people will busy be claiming jagaban online ... Some people don't even know about paypal rules
But wetin concern me?


One thing I know for sure is that if you are running paypal from Nigeria even if you are use heaven VPN..always expect the worst, I have been there and have paid the price

It's not because you were even using it your VPN from Nigeria, even people that are domiciled in the country where their Paypal was opened have paid the price. Paypal is something else.