Badgers14:



Thank you for sharing your knowledge on this ..

Not every lawyer that deals in real estate knows this.

So people be careful when consulting with a lawyer.

One thing to add tho, do you forsee trouble with some tenants or you just want to hit the reset button and be on the safe side?

You could void the current tenancy agreement. Be careful tho, and read your own agreement so you don't shoot your self in the foot.. see what terms you could void the agreement. Then draft up a memo something that sort of reconcile that , states the tenancy was voided with mutual consent bla bla bla.... This will be sort of like a letter from the tenant to you. Even though you drafted it, the tenant will write their names on top like they wrote it and sign, you sign plus a witness.

Then, have them sign a lease agreement... but please don't be greedy..make the new lease agreement free, don't go and charge them another 50k . Otherwise they will be hesitant, start asking questions etc... might derail your plan or make it tough for you to actualize.

Or easy enough, just change Management company and instruct the new company to use lease agreement that is favorable to both parties, you ( the landlord) especially

Thank you very much Sir, for the above contribution.
It sheds light on a new area of our discussion: MOTIVE!

I am naturally a peaceful person. Infact, l desire Peace so much so that l will go to war to achieve Peace.
My Parenst were Hosue owners since l was a little boy and l have witnessed this often "love-hate" relationship between tenants and House owners.
It is just natural that we dislike our Creditors, because we have to pay them as at when due and in the Nigerian environment where poverty is rife, through no-fault of the citizens in most but not all cases, "Paying or Repayment is not usually a pleasant endeavour" so l can understand if and when Tenants try to undercut and abuse the Landlord.

I have also witnessed where Landlords get very greedy and try to exploit their Tenant!
Landlords, though see their Buildings as their own investments, expecting a ROI on it and that is perfectly right, just like some invest in Stocks, Shares, start a Company that charges for Service rendered, Open a Supermaket/Stall and sell wares, etc.... all for the purpose of getting a Return on Your Investment, for now and in the future.
So, the Landlord expects to be paid but some Landlords want to heap all their financial woes on their Tenant, forgettingthat we are all in this same boat of "I go survive, e nor easy"!

But no matter how nice and friendly the relationship between a Landlord and his Tenant are, MONEY and USAGE of the Property are two areas that always cause rancour, eventually.
So, what ldo is try as much as possible, to smoothen that relationship by making documented provisions for all areas that may cause misunderstanding (usage issues) and also make provisions for how we will divorce ourselves AMICABLY, incase MONEY issues make our living together unworkable!

Where there are No-Laws, there is No Sin!
Where there is No-Sin, Everything and Anything is Permissible!
Where Everything and Anything is Permissible, ANARCHY Reigns!

I love Peace, l dont want Anarchy, so l put Rules in place, to guide my behaviour towards those that pay me money to live in m houses (I owe them a duty to enjoy their tenancy, in peace and quiet and to make their stay as memorable as much as is hunaly possible) and to guide their behaviour towards me (they owe me Payment as at when due and to use my house like it is their own).
For example, when "Nepa Payment" was causing trouble in one of my very first house, l stepped in and provided everyone in the Twelve Flats Building with separate Pre-Paid Electricity meters, at no cost to anyone except myself!
I bought Thirteen Pre-Paid Meters at almost a Million Naira, including one for Borehole Pump and General Compund/Security Lights, which l am responsible for topping-up till today, they dont fight each other anymore and my House is Peaceful.

So, l draw-up these Lease to ensure that everyone, myself inclusive, is "guided" by the Law and behaves as expected
It has not failed me to-date.
And l dont repeatedly charge them for "Agreement" every Year, as they Sign New Leases, that would be petty, even borderline greedy, of me because all l do is "Update it Yearly" by making changes to things like "Dates for the current Year", "Covid-19 protocols (Reduce Human traffic, Spray the Main Entrance gate with Soapy Water, Use the provided Bowl of Soap water to wash your hands as you go-in and go-out of your Flat into the common Areas, use a face mask when you are in common areas but that is being relaxed now. Their safety is also my Happines, a truly Sick Tenant cant pay for his tenancy )

Finally, a Houseowner cant trick tenants into signing a Lease Agreement, that will be unlawful and even criminal deciet!
I discuss what will be in the Lease with them verbally and we agree.
Then l draw it up i[b]n writing[/b] and give them to read and "iff" happy, to sign it or if not, revert back to me with their "concerns" which l will then have to explain to them again so we agree. If we cant agree, l dont sign a New Lease with such person.
All these process are DOCUMENTED so a Lessee cannot claim he was tricked or coerced into signing the Lease.

For example, the Lease, being a Lease, says you MUST Leave and Surrender the keys at the End of your ONE YEAR Lease.
Now, No Lessee wants to Rent for just one year and then have to pack out and start all over again!
But that is what is in the Lease!
l also have a Clause that says "You can make an OFFER to the Lessor (Landlord), Two Months before the end of your Lease, of your INTENTION to sign another One Year Lease, when the current one Expires.
All negotiations (Offer, Variations if any, Acceptance and Payment) must be concluded by the End of the 11Month of your current Lease.
This gives me the "30-days window' to serve the "30days Quit Notice", as stipulated in our agreement (If l really need to get the tenant out of my Building)).
I then deliver the signed and perfected Lease, Three days to the End of the Current one and the Lessor keeps enjoying himself.
Lessor and Lessee are both happy

But in all cases (except one till date), we always conclude the negotiations and l just Print another FRESH One Year Lease Agreement, allow Tenant to study and be comfortable with it, we both sign, l stamp-duty it and each person keeps their copy.

I think barring the really crazy one, which l would likely have filtered-out in the early approach (hence my suggestion that House Owners should not just take any prospective tenant that your Agent throws at you but you should personally be involved and interview them to sieve them to your taste), most Tenants will be nice to their House Owner, if you treat them with dignity, fairness and honesty.
The odd-situation is when, for myraid of reasons, Tenant cant or wont pay his rent when it falls due, that is when @Lastpage becomes kind of unfriendly.
I dont have time to be chasing One tenant over money that wont carry me far!
Let me see bank alert and l dont have any business with you till next year.
BTW: Why would you want to Void Agrements, using Letters and Counter-Letters? That does not sound appropriate in my ears.
Everything has to be above-board, legal and must standup to scrutiny otherwise, you the Landlord, with get yourself into "legal trouble" down the line. A House owner MUST keep it legal and fair to all parties involved You are like a Daddy to your Tenants, so you must maintain respect at all times

The ONLY PLAN l have as a House Owner, is to ensure my Occupants pay me as at when due and Enjoy Value for their Money-paid and are safe in my building, at all times. No more, No less.


Lastpage!

Edit!
Mummy, be Calming Down now....

lastpage:


Thank you very much Sir, for the above contribution.
It sheds light on a new area of our discussion: MOTIVE!

I am naturally a peaceful person. Infact, l desire Peace so much so that l will go to war to achieve Peace.
My Parenst were Hosue owners since l was a little boy and l have witnessed this often "love-hate" relationship between tenants and House owners.
It is just natural that we dislike our Creditors, because we have to pay them as at when due and in the Nigerian environment where poverty is rife, through no-fault of the citizens in most but not all cases, "Paying or Repayment is not usually a pleasant endeavour" so l can understand if and when Tenants try to undercut and abuse the Landlord.

I have also witnessed where Landlords get very greedy and try to exploit their Tenant!
Landlords, though see their Buildings as their own investments, expecting a ROI on it and that is perfectly right, just like some invest in Stocks, Shares, start a Company that charges for Service rendered, Open a Supermaket/Stall and sell wares, etc.... all for the purpose of getting a Return on Your Investment, for now and in the future.
So, the Landlord expects to be paid but some Landlords want to heap all their financial woes on their Tenant, forgettingthat we are all in this same boat of "I go survive, e nor easy"!

But no matter how nice and friendly the relationship between a Landlord and his Tenant are, MONEY and USAGE of the Property are two areas that always cause rancour, eventually.
So, what ldo is try as much as possible, to smoothen that relationship by making documented provisions for all areas that may cause misunderstanding (usage issues) and also make provisions for how we will divorce ourselves AMICABLY, incase MONEY issues make our living together unworkable!

Where there are No-Laws, there is No Sin!
Where there is No-Sin, Everything and Anything is Permissible!
Where Everything and Anything is Permissible, ANARCHY Reigns!

I love Peace, l dont want Anarchy, so l put Rules in place, to guide my behaviour towards those that pay me money to live in m houses (I owe them a duty to enjoy their tenancy, in peace and quiet and to make their stay as memorable as much as is hunaly possible) and to guide their behaviour towards me (they owe me Payment as at when due and to use my house like it is their own).
For example, when "Nepa Payment" was causing trouble in one of my very first house, l stepped in and provided everyone in the Twelve Flats Building with separate Pre-Paid Electricity meters, at no cost to anyone except myself!
I bought Thirteen Pre-Paid Meters at almost a Million Naira, including one for Borehole Pump and General Compund/Security Lights, which l am responsible for topping-up till today, they dont fight each other anymore and my House is Peaceful.

So, l draw-up these Lease to ensure that everyone, myself inclusive, is "guided" by the Law and behaves as expected
It has not failed me to-date.
And l dont repeatedly charge them for "Agreement" every Year, as they Sign New Leases, that would be petty, even borderline greedy, of me because all l do is "Update it Yearly" by making changes to things like "Dates for the current Year", "Covid-19 protocols (Reduce Human traffic, Spray the Main Entrance gate with Soapy Water, Use the provided Bowl of Soap water to wash your hands as you go-in and go-out of your Flat into the common Areas, use a face mask when you are in common areas but that is being relaxed now. Their safety is also my Happines, a truly Sick Tenant cant pay for his tenancy )

Finally, a Houseowner cant trick tenants into signing a Lease Agreement, that will be unlawful and even criminal deciet!
I discuss what will be in the Lease with them verbally and we agree.
Then l draw it up i[b]n writing[/b] and give them to read and "iff" happy, to sign it or if not, revert back to me with their "concerns" which l will then have to explain to them again so we agree. If we cant agree, l dont sign a New Lease with such person.
All these process are DOCUMENTED so a Lessee cannot claim he was tricked or coerced into signing the Lease.

For example, the Lease, being a Lease, says you MUST Leave and Surrender the keys at the End of your ONE YEAR Lease.
Now, No Lessee wants to Rent for just one year and then have to pack out and start all over again!
But that is what is in the Lease!
l also have a Clause that says "You can make an OFFER to the Lessor (Landlord), Two Months before the end of your Lease, of your INTENTION to sign another One Year Lease, when the current one Expires.
All negotiations (Offer, Variations if any, Acceptance and Payment) must be concluded by the End of the 11Month of your current Lease.
This gives me the "30-days window' to serve the "30days Quit Notice", as stipulated in our agreement (If l really need to get the tenant out of my Building)).
I then deliver the signed and perfected Lease, Three days to the End of the Current one and the Lessor keeps enjoying himself.
Lessor and Lessee are both happy

But in all cases (except one till date), we always conclude the negotiations and l just Print another FRESH One Year Lease Agreement, allow Tenant to study and be comfortable with it, we both sign, l stamp-duty it and each person keeps their copy.

I think barring the really crazy one, which l would likely have filtered-out in the early approach (hence my suggestion that House Owners should not just take any prospective tenant that your Agent throws at you but you should personally be involved and interview them to sieve them to your taste), most Tenants will be nice to their House Owner, if you treat them with dignity, fairness and honesty.
The odd-situation is when, for myraid of reasons, Tenant cant or wont pay his rent when it falls due, that is when @Lastpage becomes kind of unfriendly.
I dont have time to be chasing One tenant over money that wont carry me far!
Let me see bank alert and l dont have any business with you till next year.
BTW: Why would you want to Void Agrements, using Letters and Counter-Letters? That does not sound appropriate in my ears.
Everything has to be above-board, legal and must standup to scrutiny otherwise, you the Landlord, with get yourself into "legal trouble" down the line. A House owner MUST keep it legal and fair to all parties involved You are like a Daddy to your Tenants, so you must maintain respect at all times

The ONLY PLAN l have as a House Owner, is to ensure my Occupants pay me as at when due and Enjoy Value for their Money-paid and are safe in my building, at all times. No more, No less.


Lastpage!

Sigh!

Do I really have time to go through all these whether as a tenant or a landlord?

Thank God I found a better way to make money off my properties without stress.

Serviced Apartments (short-term or long-term letting)

There are lot of these apartments in Abraham Adesanya estate. I was in one with one of my client during the Covid19 lockdown.

At 25 - 40k per night, I’ll still make more money than someone who let out a 3 bedroom flat (N1.2m/year) with less worry.

The agreement looks good but the part I can’t live with is going to court because I rent or lease out my property to a man paying less than N3,000 per night.

Before you get hearing and all those stuffs, it takes weeks, months, if not years and it’s not automatic the judgement will go in the owners favor all the time.

I don’t understand lease though but I understand Nigeria’s judiciary system to some extent.

Edit:
_____
I have a tenant though in one of my chalet but he’s not paying a dime. He’s my kids lesson teacher and he has been with us for over 5 years.

My end goal is to make money off my properties and not to learn how to deal with bad tenants. If one business model ain’t working, I’d rather invest my money in some other line of business.

I’m not federal government

#justme

DFAMEGUY11S:
when I got his message I called him immediately because I hate to hear any rubbish from customer especially those that is outside and I can ensure that all my Cliente for this forum is outside I none of them have ever complained something like this before so after I told him God bear my witness that don't know I say to him I will find solution to it but I just want him to know that and no how I can supply him a broken tank of seat but the way he was taken it or talking extend of him accuse me that I purposely do did it that words alone spoiled my mind okay because he didn't care to investigate know where the fault is from okay , what I did is a waybill for public box which I told him because it will be cheaper that to charter vehicle or tax to ibadan okay so am not expecting him so said

I think you did not handle this well.
- First, even if your Customer buys something of #5 from you today, he may buy something of #50Million tomorrow, so never talk in a degenrating manner to your Customer, using the value of what he bought as a yardstick.

- If you are certain that this was a Mistake and the Customer was getting angry, the easiet and safest thing to do or say is: I WILL REPLACE IT. Next time, you just ensure you package breakable items properly for transit.
Ofcourse, l am not talking about if the Customer is just trying to play you.

- From your own post and your screenshots, l can deduce that you are aware that the Customer actually GOT a broken item. The Customer did not break the item himself. Maybe it broke in transit or you knew it was broken before sending it, that is a different question.
Even if it broke in transit, you the seller are still responsible for replacement.

What a honest and responsible Online Trader will do, in this circumstance, is to REPLACE the broken item or a FULL REFUND because even under Contract law, if the item contracted for, is not FIT FOR PURPOSE, that Contract is Void!
A broken Tiolet seat is not fit for purpose, imagine if it breaks when someone is stting on it and having a nice Poopoo! It will tear the intestine of the person out, very, very dangerous! You dont want to be the person who supplied that dangerous item, because you will be liable Sir.

- Since you promised to "find a Solution to it", that is a very good statement from you and l applaud you for that!
All you need do is to fulfill that promise and after that, you can then seek the understanding of the Customer for any percieved "use of language" on you or your threads.

Let me ask you: Do you think anyone reading these Posts, will feel confident in asking you to supply xyz number of Toilet seats to them or they would be worried about how many of them will arrive broken and you wont replace them?
What if it was a Govt project that requires 150 Toilet seats, wont that be a good deal to clinch?
IMAGE is EVERYTHING for an online Trader!.

My humble suggestion Sir: Dont worry about all the name calling for now, One WC Seat is not more than #20,000, Replace it and then let us appeal to the Customer to remove all negative posts he has posted and say "DFAMEGUY has resolved the matter to my satisfaction".

A lot of people that want to patronise Product Sellers, especially in this age of Covid-19, First do an online review of the Seller to know what others think of them and once they read a SINGLE Negative review, they run for dear money because they are thinking: That could be me!

Thank you Sir.


Lastpage!

n3xt:



Sigh!

Do I really have time to go through all these whether as a tenant or a landlord?

Thank God I found a better way to make money off my properties without stress.

Serviced Apartments (short-term or long-term letting)

There are lot of these apartments in Abraham Adesanya estate. I was in one with one of my client during the Covid19 lockdown.

At 25 - 40k per night, I’ll still make more money than someone who let out a 3 bedroom flat (N1.2m/year) with less worry.

The agreement looks good but the part I can’t live with is going to court because I rent or lease out my property to a man paying less than N3,000 per night.

Before you get hearing and all those stuffs, it takes weeks, months, if not years and it’s not automatic the judgement will go in the owners favor all the time.

I don’t understand lease though but I understand Nigeria’s judiciary system to some extent.

Edit:
_____
I have a tenant though in one of my chalet but he’s not paying a dime. He’s my kids lesson teacher and he has been with us for over 5 years.

My end goal is to make money off my properties and not to learn how to deal with bad tenants. If one business ain’t working, I’d rather invest my money in some other line of business.

I’m not federal government

#justme

Brabus,
Everyone to his or her own 'target market'.
Weldone with all your Chalets and Self-service stuff, make all the money you can, l am happy for you.


Lastpage!

lastpage:



Brabus,
Everyone to his or her own 'target market'.
Weldone with all your Chalets and Self-service stuff, make all the money you can, l am happy for you.


Lastpage!

Not a bibeli

true2home:
Bro...

Did anybody ever tells you that its softer to walk on grass than Concrete And for your information, that Dude is me all day long on Nigerian sidewalk...The sidewalk is too close to the travelling lane; i still like my Amala and Egusi. LMAO

True!

I witnessed a man got knocked down last Monday on Lagos/Ibadan expressway. He had issues with his car and was on the emergency lane when another car ran into him.

Everything happened in a split second.

lastpage:


Thank you Sir.
Indulge me Sir, l dont know how this "follower" thing works!
Does it mean you will be notified of all my post or you will just be following me about or what exactly?
I have this tendency to fall into the ditches, once in a while...... and l dont want you falling ontop of me, that wold worse my situation inside.
Happy Sunday.

Lastpage!

All of the above sir

lastpage:


I think you did not handle this well.
- First, even if your Customer buys something of #5 from you today, he may buy something of #50Million tomorrow, so never talk in a degenrating manner to your Customer, using the value of what he bought as a yardstick.

- If you are certain that this was a Mistake and the Customer was getting angry, the easiet and safest thing to do or say is: I WILL REPLACE IT. Next time, you just ensure you package breakable items properly for transit.
Ofcourse, l am not talking about if the Customer is just trying to play you.

- From your own post and your screenshots, l can deduce that you are aware that the Customer actually GOT a broken item. The Customer did not break the item himself. Maybe it broke in transit or you knew it was broken before sending it, that is a different question.
Even if it broke in transit, you the seller are still responsible for replacement.

What a honest and responsible Online Trader will do, in this circumstance, is to REPLACE the broken item or a FULL REFUND because even under Contract law, if the item contracted for, is not FIT FOR PURPOSE, that Contract is Void!
A broken Tiolet seat is not fit for purpose, imagine if it breaks when someone is stting on it and having a nice Poopoo! It will tear the intestine of the person out, very, very dangerous! You dont want to be the person who supplied that dangerous item, because you will be liable Sir.

- Since you promised to "find a Solution to it", that is a very good statement from you and l applaud you for that!
All you need do is to fulfill that promise and after that, you can then seek the understanding of the Customer for any percieved "use of language" on you or your threads.

Let me ask you: Do you think anyone reading these Posts, will feel confident in asking you to supply xyz number of Toilet seats to them or they would be worried about how many of them will arrive broken and you wont replace them?
What if it was a Govt project that requires 150 Toilet seats, wont that be a good deal to clinch?
IMAGE is EVERYTHING for an online Trader!.

My humble suggestion Sir: Dont worry about all the name calling for now, One WC Seat is not more than #20,000, Replace it and then let us appeal to the Customer to remove all negative posts he has posted and say "DFAMEGUY has resolved the matter to my satisfaction".

A lot of people that want to patronise Product Sellers, especially in this age of Covid-19, First do an online review of the Seller to know what others think of them and once they read a SINGLE Negative review, they run for dear money because they are thinking: That could be me!

Thank you Sir.


Lastpage!

I can't stop learning from your posts sir.
I believe the matter would be resolved amicably with the reasonable and realistic solution you have presented.

n3xt:


True!

I witnessed a man got knocked down last Monday on Lagos/Ibadan expressway. He had issues with his car and was on the emergency lane when another car ran into him.

Everything happened in a split second.

Jeeezzz

Where is the emergency lane on the express??

Morning house..

we are ready to handle your roofing.contact us today.

temi4fash:


Jeeezzz

Where is the emergency lane on the express??

I believe the emergency lane is on the right and it is not meant to be used as a traffic lane this making it safe for vehicles to stop there.

The guy was parked on that lane and the grass verge trying to figure out what to do before the other car ran into him.

temi4fash:


Oga me,

See below as requested

Well like I said the sin of your engineer was not abiding to your instruction.
Nevertheless if I were him I would have added 1 more course(block) to that before running the oversite concrete.
Due to my terrain and certain other factors I try to do a minimum of 4 course off the natural ground level to mitigate capillary action.

If you have 3/8 (coarse sand) at your area and depending on it's price difference to granite, you can lay your DPM and do a rich concrete mix adding water seal cement to the mixture.
You can determine the thickness to do since you'll still do screeding on the floor at the time you intend to lay tiles.


Also remember the advice n3xt or lastpage gave regarding the exterior of the build.

Good luck on your build.

uncleteeh:
OAK Group is still your plug to great architectural designs and building constructional works.
Call/Whatsapp: +2348108408732
People in diaspora can also count on us.
Check us out.
https://www.nairaland.com/5979713/architect-here

As it's often done here, I am coming back to give feedbacks.
I gave @ uncleteeh jobs to do on this platform and he has satisfactorily done them.
Thank you

@boyestic

I beg you in the name of God you serve go edit your comment, i plead with you, do not join those that are after some people progress.

I am still here because i believe in myself and my services i render to people, those that are beefing should continue, Those breeding people against me when i do you no wrong, you will rip it.

I am still very grateful to those that patronised us. God will continue to enrich you, to our intending customer(s), our services are with great impact. We do not compromise quality & quantity.

BabaOman:


As it's often done here, I am coming back to give feedbacks.
I gave @ uncleteeh jobs to do on this platform and he has satisfactorily done them.
Thank you

@uncleteeh is a very good architect and a nice person. He did a nice job for me too

lastpage:


I think you did not handle this well.
- First, even if your Customer buys something of #5 from you today, he may buy something of #50Million tomorrow, so never talk in a degenrating manner to your Customer, using the value of what he bought as a yardstick.

- If you are certain that this was a Mistake and the Customer was getting angry, the easiet and safest thing to do or say is: I WILL REPLACE IT. Next time, you just ensure you package breakable items properly for transit.
Ofcourse, l am not talking about if the Customer is just trying to play you.

- From your own post and your screenshots, l can deduce that you are aware that the Customer actually GOT a broken item. The Customer did not break the item himself. Maybe it broke in transit or you knew it was broken before sending it, that is a different question.
Even if it broke in transit, you the seller are still responsible for replacement.

What a honest and responsible Online Trader will do, in this circumstance, is to REPLACE the broken item or a FULL REFUND because even under Contract law, if the item contracted for, is not FIT FOR PURPOSE, that Contract is Void!
A broken Tiolet seat is not fit for purpose, imagine if it breaks when someone is stting on it and having a nice Poopoo! It will tear the intestine of the person out, very, very dangerous! You dont want to be the person who supplied that dangerous item, because you will be liable Sir.

- Since you promised to "find a Solution to it", that is a very good statement from you and l applaud you for that!
All you need do is to fulfill that promise and after that, you can then seek the understanding of the Customer for any percieved "use of language" on you or your threads.

Let me ask you: Do you think anyone reading these Posts, will feel confident in asking you to supply xyz number of Toilet seats to them or they would be worried about how many of them will arrive broken and you wont replace them?
What if it was a Govt project that requires 150 Toilet seats, wont that be a good deal to clinch?
IMAGE is EVERYTHING for an online Trader!.

My humble suggestion Sir: Dont worry about all the name calling for now, One WC Seat is not more than #20,000, Replace it and then let us appeal to the Customer to remove all negative posts he has posted and say "DFAMEGUY has resolved the matter to my satisfaction".

A lot of people that want to patronise Product Sellers, especially in this age of Covid-19, First do an online review of the Seller to know what others think of them and once they read a SINGLE Negative review, they run for dear money because they are thinking: That could be me!

Thank you Sir.


Lastpage!

I really appreciate your advice and concern for this issue, sir but get me right am not mention amount of the because of is small or big no am trying to let people know how much that involve for the deal , that is how much that he is accuse of scammer him, but no problem I will do as you said I will call his brother to waybill me the broken one then I find way to get another one for him , and again I want you to know I didn't use a harsh or abuse word to him but he keep on saying I will carry a cross that is bigger than me is an a big course to that can't bear or expecting from him , but all is well I promise to do my best settle with him, thank you once again

ANY SMALL THING - NEXT THING NA SCAMMER THIS, SCAMMER THAT.......


THIS IS ONE OF THE REASON I DON'T ADVERTISE ON HERE, IN-FACT FOR ALMOST 10 YEARS OF BEING ON PROPERTY SECTION, I REFUSED COMING TO THIS THREAD (until Teewhy2, drew my attention to someone who stole a plan from my thread and tried to sell it here) - lol

WELL - ITS NOT BY FORCE TO WORK FOR PEOPLE, I TURN DOWN OFFERS IF I FEEL IT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM AT THE END OR IF I GET THE FEELING OF AN ATOM OF DIS-TRUST.

WE HAVE TO TRUST EACH OTHER 100% TO HAVE A DEALING PLUS I DON'T ASK FOR MONEY ANYWAYS, UNTIL I DELIVER......

My advice to whoever has a good name to protect, deal with people who trust you - I've had people here who trusted me 100% even b4 contacting me, just by reading my threads.....

NO BE BY FORCE TO GET CUSTOMER - SOME ARE OUT TO TARNISH YOUR NAME.

BTW: I've had plenty people end up not paying for services - but I will NEVER disrespect them or call them out - Infact, I still send them New year messages and call them Sir.....

we move....

bixton:


Well like I said the sin of your engineer was not abiding to your instruction.
Nevertheless if I were him I would have added 1 more course(block) to that before running the oversite concrete.
Due to my terrain and certain other factors I try to do a minimum of 4 course off the natural ground level to mitigate capillary action.

If you have 3/8 (coarse sand) at your area and depending on it's price difference to granite, you can lay your DPM and do a rich concrete mix adding water seal cement to the mixture.
You can determine the thickness to do since you'll still do screeding on the floor at the time you intend to lay tiles.


Also remember the advice n3xt or lastpage gave regarding the exterior of the build.

Good luck on your build.

Thank you very much for your input sir.

It is appreciated,

Chief,
While you may have the best intentions, you have now written two/three or more posts to the "aggrieved buyer" but no single post yet admonishing the vendor to do right by his client.

Little wonder why you are quickly earning yourself some sort of ** reputation.

I like your hustle...but you really need to retrospect otherwise you'll continue to do your brand irredeemable damage by some of your takes in here.

Cheers.

Chekitaut:
@boyestic

I beg you in the name of God you serve go edit your comment, i plead with you, do not join those that are after some people progress.

I am still here because i believe in myself and my services i render to people, those that are beefing should continue, Those breeding people against me when i do you no wrong, you will rip it.

I am still very grateful to those that patronised us. God will continue to enrich you, to our intending customer(s), our services are with great impact. We do not compromise quality & quantity.

Hello house. Please can 1m be enough to do raft foundation for 2bedroom ?

kingzsoul:
Hello house. Please can 1m be enough to do raft foundation for 2bedroom ?

MOST LIKELY NO...

1 tonne of rebar is about 250k and you should need at least 1and half = 380k
the wood you would need can't be less than 150k
Granite would be about 150k
Sand, lets settle for 100k
Labour for all workers (maybe) 200k
PERHAPS - filling b4 work can be done, but surely filling after raft is done.

AFTER ALL THE ABOVE, you still have rebar to floor and columns, concrete oversite (german floor)

THE ESTIMATE ABOVE ISNT ACCURATE - just me thinking out loud (could be more but surely not less)

Goodluck

kingzsoul:
Hello house. Please can 1m be enough to do raft foundation for 2bedroom ?

Based on what I've been reading on here I don't think so. I haven't personally done one and will never do so I have no direct experience.

Good luck on your project.

PS: These are the sorts of projects that I'll get a QS involved in.

bixton:


Well like I said the sin of your engineer was not abiding to your instruction.
Nevertheless if I were him I would have added 1 more course(block) to that before running the oversite concrete.
Due to my terrain and certain other factors I try to do a minimum of 4 course off the natural ground level to mitigate capillary action.

If you have 3/8 (coarse sand) at your area and depending on it's price difference to granite, you can lay your DPM and do a rich concrete mix adding water seal cement to the mixture.
You can determine the thickness to do since you'll still do screeding on the floor at the time you intend to lay tiles.


Also remember the advice n3xt or lastpage gave regarding the exterior of the build.

Good luck on your build.

Oh! My advice on perimeter drain?

For me, I see no better way to make your foundation maintenance free than to keep the waters away.

Soil quality and moisture content are the major causes of shifts in building foundations.
Although the surface of the ground can appear stable and dry, continuous percolation of water around your foundation may cause more damage than what a DPM or DPC can solve.

Even a stable bearing soil can become insufficient if nothing is done to prevent water from getting into your foundation.

We even need to do more in this age and time that sandfilling aren’t allowed to compact naturally.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDbVlYm6VOI
_{Video shows a foundation with a DPM, reinforcement and a 100mm thick slab.}



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Again, it’s not written in the constitution

megacontrol:
Chief,
While you may have the best intentions, you have now written two/three or more posts to the "aggrieved buyer" but no single post yet admonishing the vendor to do right by his client.

Little wonder why you are quickly earning yourself some sort of ** reputation.

I like your hustle...but you really need to retrospect otherwise you'll continue to do your brand irredeemable damage by some of your takes in here.

Cheers.

Thanks for the input, i hv neva supported the process of transaction, i hv also said he still have privilege to return it.

He is in best place to call for refund or change of items damage, if he the vendor now fail to do so to satisfy his customer then we would take the case as scam.

It baffled me i see the way he acted, i try settle things he hold me as topic..

On the issue of retrospect you said, different people to different way of seeing things, but one thing is sure do good, good will always follow whoever. Sometimes you can not change things, what will happen will happen, i hv a failed delivery refund was not done immediately, "Tough situation don't last but tough people do.

My Oga, nothing we never see here. U know.

twinskenny:
I will like an invitation

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Lahore smart city is the second smart city project in Pakistan near the Lahore Ravi river.
https://www.smartprojectsislamabad.com/
https://www.smartprojectsislamabad.com/lahore-smart-city/

boyestic:


yes you are a scammer ,you knew it was broken and that was why you never bothered to ask if it made it to ibadan, and when i told you you said i should look for people selling toilet to fix it,which simply means its none of business,and after a closer look ,they noticed it was not a fresh damage ,it was patched before. traces of glue and white stuffs was on the same exact spot,like i told you will pay in 100 folds,expect the money i paid was not from my sweat and i am repeating it,its not all about the money but i dont want anyone else to go through what i went through,i live in dallas and it does not worth my time to be looking for you but here,i will help others not fall for your traps,the shower leaks,the cabinet is inferior,you are just a devil.

What is the price you pay for the toilet

kingzsoul:
Hello house. Please can 1m be enough to do raft foundation for 2bedroom ?

I hope this raft for this 2 bedroom is going vertical(GF+1 or 2)............

Except you've done the main building and probably this 2 bedroom is just for those who help with domestic work in the house.

GoodFaith:

What is the price you pay for the toilet

#67,000

GoodFaith:

What is the price you pay for the toilet

70k he paid me 65k but base how far and closeness we have been through our discussion and for him to pay me 10k over many months I don't want him to feel bad which I told when he said he got it at ibadan 65k and he insisted that is that 65k that he will pay we get extend I told him to get the seat there which he refused and I told him already that the product you send is not mine and this is how they selling it here that he should get the seat there then that is when get angry with me and begging said that he dished me the 10k which he paid since , then i said no problem if that be case paid the 65k but know that am putting 5k to it then when I want to send him the total bill I ask to put 2k let be that he paid 67k which he refused I did not ask for it again I supplied him

boyestic:
#67,000

he did not pay 67k what he paid is 65k