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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 3:21pm On May 02, 2016 |
mufutau55: For sure. Oun to ntan lodun egun. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Empiree: 3:23pm On May 02, 2016 |
44chux:wtf is this?. My question still the same; why in the world I have to pay lazy sonvab!tches all these just bcus I want to build in their hood?. Listen, I think it's builders that allow them to flourish in the name of "I don't want trouble". Hey, I would cut off govt and secure my own thing. All these money being thrown away can be used to strengthen security around the site. I'm telling you, once a builder stands up to them, this sh!t would begin to desolve. What do they use the money for, community or ogogoro, weed etc ?. Hell I won't pay. This is too much unnecessary burden on homeowners. This money giving to them can definitely provide 24/7 armed security around the site. Fence first, gate second, security third, projet begins. If the money paid to them gored towards community development lik better road(street), securing community etc, I won't mind. But on silly things that have no positive feedback is pretty much waset of resources. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 3:25pm On May 02, 2016 |
mufutau55: Eni ija o ba, lo npe ra re ni akikanju. (A person who hasn't seen real challenges in life usually call himself a hero). Toto se bi owe o eyin Agba. I suggest that anyone who wants to know more about "Omo Onile and their menace" to do a google search on "Omo Onile" For over a decade now, Ajah vs Olumegbon issue is partially resolved. I mean the same Ajah where we have retired generals, senior civil servants and high ranking govt officials. http://news.biafranigeriaworld.com/archive/guardian/2005/11/14/residents_flee_ajah_as_landowners_clash_five_feared_killed_police_arrest_46_hoodlums.php |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Empiree: 3:32pm On May 02, 2016 |
true2home:You cracked my ribs @highlighted ![]() ![]() ![]() Capo is their boss ![]() 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 3:35pm On May 02, 2016 |
Empiree: They are not everywhere. You won't find them in a lot of GRAs in Ibadan. I can tell you that they are not in Bodija GRA where Executives, Industry Leaders, Politicians, Military higher echelons reside in. Also, there are many gated communities where you can't find them. It's possible to avoid them and you mustn't buy virgin lands cause that's their bread and butter. Like you I know for a fact that their time for comeuppance is coming. An old man in my area bought 2 acres but ended up with only 1 plot, just imagine that. So I asked him how he was able to shoulder the loss. He told me all he lost was land but I should ask them what they lost ![]() ![]() Ono kan owoja. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Empiree: 3:36pm On May 02, 2016 |
EgunMogaji:That's what I'm talking about. You just getting it. Ain't get no time for bs. I bought my land and that's. No one else Once you get rid of "capo", the rest will back off ![]() 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Empiree: 3:47pm On May 02, 2016 |
EgunMogaji:To be honest, personally, if I have to but land, I dont mean giving someone money to look and buy for me. I mean Me, I would not buy in known omo onile hood. I'd prefer GRA or gated community. And what you said up there clearly shows that what omo onile designated is dispeakable. It's waste of resources to keep giving them money. I am sure this old man settled them and still lost that much of his acres |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by TLAX: 3:53pm On May 02, 2016 |
EgunMogaji: How can i get that? It will be the ultimate deterrant. ![]() Point to note. The more eager you want to get on with the build, the more you pay. Act as if you are not in a hurry and since they need the money, they will come down on their demand. Also dont give to the first set to come. Insist on seeing their leader, give them a date far into the future (like one month) and use the timw to do independent investigation on the authentic omonile. My three floor build in Akoka cost N200,000.00 extra due to Omonile. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Empiree: 3:58pm On May 02, 2016 |
brabus:Lord have mercy. In that case I'd find me omo onile free zone to build. I don't want situation where them fellas go still follow me everywhere saying " owo meji loke f'enikan", "te ori mi mole koja". I guess with this post of yours my approach wont work either. It's all come down to govt to pass a bill banning this nonsense or simply cooperate and throway money to these lazy ass folks. Africa aint improving. This is a pathetic state 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 4:00pm On May 02, 2016 |
Olasuposaheed: Do you mean 10,000 blocks or 1000 blocks? If it is 1,000 it will take a brick layer to lay the block within a week so you don't have to worry about rain but if it is 10,000 blocks and you are not planning to do the work at thesame time you can float it in three phases |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 4:04pm On May 02, 2016 |
Empiree: Here in the north we don't have problem of 'omo onile' . Youth here will be you to be involved as laborer or artisan. We have too many hoodlums down south, people who want to make money without working. Government need to look into these miscreants 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by situationroom: 4:06pm On May 02, 2016 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Empiree: 4:24pm On May 02, 2016 |
abdulwastecx:my point. I won't mind hiring them to work as laborers instead of getting free money. The thing is, there is not enough strong universal resistance against them. See the difference btw north and south. Even foundation diggers are mostly northerners as I understood it. Omo onile need to work for money, period. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 4:42pm On May 02, 2016 |
Empiree: That's the point but where do we start from? I spend maybe 30 days in a year in Nigeria and can't really do much but those that spend 365 days are idling by wringing their hands and writing stories ![]() |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by agarawu23(m): 4:45pm On May 02, 2016 |
true2home:not everyone gat that time to be doing familiarity with omo onile. These people are miserable that they don't have anything to do with their life than to stay at home and watch movement of materials that's going to sites. Na them pursue me from lagos to Ibadan. How will u expect someone to pay you 300k for foundation? And that's not all. The best thing to do is to buy your land from the family head and invite him to the site once u are ready to work on it after giving him little cash and pretending your life is miserable. Lol, I survived them last year when I roofed a little part of my mum's building. We bought the land then from the olori ebi and thank God the man is still alive. After buying the materials needed before my arrival, I went at night to meet the man and I have already told my mum to stay at home because the woman too dey fear.The man couldn't recognized me cos its over 5 years I saw him. So I showed him the documents and remind him who brought us to buy the land then . thank God he remembered and asked immediately about my mum. I Lied to him that poverty has made my mum go back to the village and that's why we couldn't roof the building since all this while. I told him how life as been hard for me too and that's why I had no choice than to lend money from co operative to roof two rooms since I can't afford to pay house rent again( the house is a 5bedroom flat but omo onile no let the place rest so we decide to put tenant there cos our aim is to sale the property after the completion of the ECOWAS road from mile 2 to badagry). The man looked at me from head to toe, I was putting on a slippers and plain polo. So he told me not to worry that he will see what to do cos we paid him 70k for foundation then. I gave him 15k and pleaded with him thats all i have. The man just dey look me without saying anything. that's how we roofed it. He sat with the Carpenters from morning till evening and they weren't disturbed as narrated cos I wasn't present until after the job was done. The story wasn't the same in akesan igando road. 300k for foundation alone and that's just the beginning. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Jazzlite: 4:49pm On May 02, 2016 |
make dem chop yer money... EgunMogaji: |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 4:53pm On May 02, 2016 |
Jazzlite: No problem, but chop in decency. I'll never complain about the money that they've cost me cause it's just change. It's the principle behind it and goes against everything I learnt growing up. Honest work for honest pay. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 5:03pm On May 02, 2016 |
You can't win omo onile's. Better not to pick a fight if you're building to stay in that area. If it's a rental property, you can still fight small. In fact, there's no winning Omo onile. Just pay or buy land elsewhere.. One of our project Managers at AETI was shot dead just outside his home at night by suspected omo onile's just because he was "stubborn". These guys have guns, machetes and carry them freely around and you want builders to stand up to them? |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 5:14pm On May 02, 2016 |
What do builders do on their own personal builds with omo onile? Let's hear your ideas. I know yah all didn't just roll over and play possum ![]() |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kopell: 5:18pm On May 02, 2016 |
This 'OMO ONILE' it's not a joke, as I write there is one ongoing in ELEMORO for about 3 weeks now, It confirmed at least 3 people as be killed. This parcel of land is about 200 hectare 20 minutes walk behind the Oba palace. Do anyone hard anything about it, I believed the answer is No. Why, because many of these elite are the ones giving those area boys the guns. Guess what if the get them arrested, they will be out in a week or less. It a serious Isssue. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by 4nobody4every1: 5:23pm On May 02, 2016 |
mufutau55:Exactly, this method works for me all the time and we eventually become friends, l apply extreme caution / diplomacy during negotiations for payments and l deal with the family head, who in turn talk to all the others never to disturb or bother anybody working on my property, infact, l never have to deal with them after the family head gives his final word to the rest, we all become friends eventually, they are illiterates, weed smokers etc, it is better to deal with them with wisdom and caution |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 5:23pm On May 02, 2016 |
kopell: Or better yet, this one advertised on Nairaland. I created a post on it but no one is talking. Talk about a conflict of interest for Seun. A paid ad on Nairaland warning people not to buy land that is advertised on Nairaland.
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 5:33pm On May 02, 2016 |
4nobody4every1: I know almost all the Omo-oritas and Omo-oniles in Lekki-Ajah-Ibeju now and they know me too. At least I've built over 20 houses that the owner never had direct dealings with Omo Onile till we handover. Even when I had to deal with them, I did it non-appearance. The problem with most people is oversabi. I'm doing a project of well over $500,000 now and the owner (who lives 8 minutes drive away from the site) spent the longest time on the site just last week when he spent 45 minutes with me. But I knew some people, the whole world must know Yankee man don land, Jand fella don arrive etc. Now to pay common Omo Onile money come dey speak grammar which Omo Onile don't understand. I'm so close to the Omo oniles to the extent that they offer me mouthwatering land deals and tells me the deals to avoid. Just because I grease their palms always. What works for me is to pay what's due unto ceasar. I'm sure 99% of those I've dealt with knew what I can do with Omo oniles. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Empiree: 5:43pm On May 02, 2016 |
EgunMogaji:I think the reason they don't care to do something about it is because cultural bondage. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by 4nobody4every1: 5:46pm On May 02, 2016 |
brabus:Lol @ the bold, l am like your client, you will hardly know l am the owner of my property, even when on site with friends and family members l will hear some Omonile saying this guy doesn't look like someone who can afford this property, this guy is simple bla, bla, bla, l will just laugh at them, open my car and give them whiskey or anything l have in my car, all of them eventually become my friends, l go on a very low profile when l am in Nigeria and it works 100% to my advantage ......."Money is a defence, wisdom is also a defence but the excellency of knowledge is that wisdom gives life to them that have it"... ![]() |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by spyder880(m): 5:49pm On May 02, 2016 |
EgunMogaji: In my personal home in the village, I paid nothing to nobody because I am the chief omo onile in town! ![]() ![]() Anyway my place is still rural, nothing like omo onile there. I paid about N40k only for a house we built in the city this year in Enugu. The amount is for the whole building from foundation till the painting and packing in. Some places in Enugu, you can pay as much as N250k for the whole building till finish. Just one payment and they will forget you exist. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 5:52pm On May 02, 2016 |
Empiree: Or maybe some builders are in collusion with them. I know my builder was until I dragged him to the omo oniles. So what was happening was that they don't even want my money, they wanted him to give them money for the work he was doing. He'll stall them until I go home and then promptly tell them I'm home now. Also poverty has tainted the business scene in Nigeria so much that the moral core of most people have shifted. People don't know right from wrong anymore and go as far as celebrating evils and schemes. You can't even trust some friends that moved home for any length of time because the too get indoctrinated into the corrupt system. I have friends that went and bought vacation homes in Nicaragua, El Salvador, etc because the system down there is straighter than in Nigeria and the money goes far just like in Nigeria. If only they knew how they're stifling development and progress. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 5:52pm On May 02, 2016 |
4nobody4every1: My respect forever goes to one and only Nairaland client who took me by the biggest surprise. I'm sure Hajji Mufutau55 himself won't believe his eyes when he actually sees the guy. When I met this client, I nearly ask him if he's daddy asked him to take me to the site. Oga, in case you're reading this, that was how I feel that day o If it's age, I doubt he's up to 23 and he was able to pull off two houses at a go using Brabus service without headlines. There were Omo oniles but they had no choice than to ignore the gentle guy cos he only visits when it's absolutely necessary to do so. Dem don even sabi the guy say hell shake body whenever he comes around so no one comes around to disturb. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 5:58pm On May 02, 2016 |
spyder880: I thought I was doing good by doing rural but those bastages found me ![]() Thanks for sharing. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by spyder880(m): 6:01pm On May 02, 2016 |
brabus: You are lucky enough to be meeting with your clients. About 70% of the houses I built were completed without me meeting the owner in person. Sometimes I hand over the keys to the family members, still waiting for my "yankee" gift from some of them when they return 4 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 6:04pm On May 02, 2016 |
spyder880: That Sir, speaks volumes. Very impressive on your resume. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 6:05pm On May 02, 2016 |
spyder880: Met most of them a year after. Do you know the funniest part, I always ask them if they're Muslim or Christian so as to perform foundation prayers on their behalf. It's fun though. Trust me, it's fun. Your Yankee gifts will definitely come. 4 Likes |
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