Plus there are catholic churches in syria,iran,iraq and all these countries, i remember a time pope sent emissaries to saddam,he received dem with so much respect and gave dem audience...these our pastors....please wat do they even do? Tell brethrens to pay tithe and yet most of this brethren die in penury, dey build schools most of the brethren cant send their children, they produce cd with word of salvation and even wizkids secular cd is cheaper! I need someone to encourage me jare....naija and format

birdman:


I beg to disagree. The pope can request that plane anytime he wants. It is reserved for him. In essence, the state itself has bought a jet for the pope.

Now compare that with a pastor preaching a sermon in one city on saturday night, and another sermon in another time zone the next morning. Obviously driving is not feasible. Neither can you carry all your staff for 4-5 hour wait at the airport every weekend, assuming you can even find a flight when you want. Have you ever flown a 12 hour flight before? What evangelist is going to try a world missions trip lasting a 3 months flying every two to three days. Even Reinhard Bonnke, on moving to the US, needed a private jet. God so kind, he found a preacher that gave it to him for free!

Are there carnal christians and pastors that lust after jets because it is a status symbol? Yeah. But there are also carnal christians, like you, who think all there is to a plane is the status symbol. The plane is a tool. Its very effective for Ceos, vps , presidents because they can get from point a to point b quickly. . And it is a very effective tool for moving significant ministry resources from point a to point b at a moments notice

and you need a private jet for that? why not use commercial airport to travel. or will the preaching turn second class? the bottom line is. you can beleive agree, disagree or what ever you fell like. because firstly it is your opinion and secondly it is your opinion. so, there I said it.

Weah96:
Have you seen where the pope calls HOME? It's a sovereign state. LOL The sale of one of his paintings alone could convince Oyedepo to become his house boy. Or even Creflo Money, abi, Dollar.

Don't compare the pope's annual earnings with these multi millionaires please. That's disrespectful to the hard work put in by the Vatican over the centuries.

U're wrong Weah. Very wrong

hyfr:
Oyedepo is a passionate business man. Back in the bible it was men of God who told the leaders what to do,look at today none of them can even stand up and say "thus says the lord". I pray God will expose them 1 by 1

i may not need to read beyond ur 1st two paragraphs....its obvious ur stating my thoughts... ur jus on point

TrajansKong:
I SAY AGAIN!!

This is not the African Way.
The Pope is wrong. How can we respect him as a man of God if he travels amongst the common people? How can we glorify one who does not glorify himself? He is a messenger of God!! He should reflect God's power accordingly.We do not exalt those on our own level. A true pastor must SHOW he is above us in every way.

The Vatican has billions and BILLIONS in precious metals and stones but this pope does not display any of this for us to admire. If we cannot SEE and admire a man's power and wealth how can we follow him and give unto his glory?

This pope is a disgrace to Christianity. A man of God cannot be humble. He must be mighty as God is mighty.Fly your private jet, Papa Oyedepo! Wear your Rolex, Papa Adeboye. Wear your Armani suits Pastor Daniel! We cannot judge you as we judge ourselves. You are truly men of God. Our spiritual and earthly masters!

Lol. I smell sarcasm

birdman:


I beg to disagree. The pope can request that plane anytime he wants. It is reserved for him. In essence, the state itself has bought a jet for the pope.

Now compare that with a pastor preaching a sermon in one city on saturday night, and another sermon in another time zone the next morning. Obviously driving is not feasible. Neither can you carry all your staff for 4-5 hour wait at the airport every weekend, assuming you can even find a flight when you want. Have you ever flown a 12 hour flight before? What evangelist is going to try a world missions trip lasting a 3 months flying every two to three days. Even Reinhard Bonnke, on moving to the US, needed a private jet. God so kind, he found a preacher that gave it to him for free!

Are there carnal christians and pastors that lust after jets because it is a status symbol? Yeah. But there are also carnal christians, like you, who think all there is to a plane is the status symbol. The plane is a tool. Its very effective for Ceos, vps , presidents because they can get from point a to point b quickly. . And it is a very effective tool for moving significant ministry resources from point a to point b at a moments notice

This is total falsehood. The Pope doesn't have any particular aircraft assigned to him. Aircrafts are leased for the Pope's use during his tours. For instance he used Alitalia for his visit to Cuba and America but returned to Rome in an American flag carrier. Let's not come on social media and spread lies and misinformation just to Garner "likes".

birdman:


I beg to disagree. The pope can request that plane anytime he wants. It is reserved for him. In essence, the state itself has bought a jet for the pope.

Now compare that with a pastor preaching a sermon in one city on saturday night, and another sermon in another time zone the next morning. Obviously driving is not feasible. Neither can you carry all your staff for 4-5 hour wait at the airport every weekend, assuming you can even find a flight when you want. Have you ever flown a 12 hour flight before? What evangelist is going to try a world missions trip lasting a 3 months flying every two to three days. Even Reinhard Bonnke, on moving to the US, needed a private jet. God so kind, he found a preacher that gave it to him for free!

Are there carnal christians and pastors that lust after jets because it is a status symbol? Yeah. But there are also carnal christians, like you, who think all there is to a plane is the status symbol. The plane is a tool. Its very effective for Ceos, vps , presidents because they can get from point a to point b quickly. . And it is a very effective tool for moving significant ministry resources from point a to point b at a moments notice

the British Prime Minister flies public
what's your next excuse
must pastor jump all over the place
abeg stop defending the indefensible

TrajansKong:
I SAY AGAIN!!

This is not the African Way.
The Pope is wrong. How can we respect him as a man of God if he travels amongst the common people? How can we glorify one who does not glorify himself? He is a messenger of God!! He should reflect God's power accordingly.We do not exalt those on our own level. A true pastor must SHOW he is above us in every way.

The Vatican has billions and BILLIONS in precious metals and stones but this pope does not display any of this for us to admire. If we cannot SEE and admire a man's power and wealth how can we follow him and give unto his glory?

This pope is a disgrace to Christianity. A man of God cannot be humble. He must be mighty as God is mighty.Fly your private jet, Papa Oyedepo! Wear your Rolex, Papa Adeboye. Wear your Armani suits Pastor Daniel! We cannot judge you as we judge ourselves. You are truly men of God. Our spiritual and earthly masters!

.....then I guess you've not heard of Jesus Christ and his ways of humility......pls don't say this outside!!

Op, you did not do you research well before posting

TrajansKong:
I SAY AGAIN!!

This is not the African Way.
The Pope is wrong. How can we respect him as a man of God if he travels amongst the common people? How can we glorify one who does not glorify himself? He is a messenger of God!! He should reflect God's power accordingly.We do not exalt those on our own level. A true pastor must SHOW he is above us in every way.

The Vatican has billions and BILLIONS in precious metals and stones but this pope does not display any of this for us to admire. If we cannot SEE and admire a man's power and wealth how can we follow him and give unto his glory?

This pope is a disgrace to Christianity. A man of God cannot be humble. He must be mighty as God is mighty.Fly your private jet, Papa Oyedepo! Wear your Rolex, Papa Adeboye. Wear your Armani suits Pastor Daniel! We cannot judge you as we judge ourselves. You are truly men of God. Our spiritual and earthly masters!

D pope a disgrace? Hmmmmmmm!!!! Still tinking abt wat to say to u

hyfr:
JESUS JESUS JESUS JESUS!!! This dude is making me crazy. Pls receive sense

As ehn!
Like film trick
Maybe na comedian

pld4reel:
This is how it should be

That quote is fake

globalresource:
@ op.. Keep hating.. .you will reap hatred in return(not a curse, but law of life). Creflo Dollar asked for money for private Jet and he gave his reasons(not steal). It is left for his congregation to make their decision on that. What the hell is your headache about that? Are you one of the people bankrolling his mission

Politicians are here stealing money.. .You remain helpless. Whereas some of these pastors like Bishop Oyedepo is not on the pay roll of the church. Many who you won't see on the pages of nairaland gives bountifully unto him and they are happy doing it. He has nothing to do with the offering. Most people hating here rarely gives in church or don't attend at all. Whereas we who gives cheerfully don't complain and we are happy doing it.

How would you compare the Pope with other pastors? Have you been to Vatican city and see for yourself.. .you would be surprise at the sight of beauty and magnificence(my due respect to the pope)

Your hatred will lead you no where. Keep googling pastors around the world.. Many have connected with them for the supernatural prosperity and you are mourning

My advice to you.. ..keep wailing. I don't expect you to grab the spiritual importance of honoring our men of God

You had celebrate when you see Jay Z with private jet but wail when Men of God use the same

Over to you destiny wailers

Spot On!

btoks:
A commercial plane is chartered when the pope needs to travel and the cost is usually subsidised by the travelling journalists. This is a lot cheaper than owning a private jet. No state has bought a jet for the pope.

God bless you plenty

Your generation will never lack

Wisdom shall be your lot for ever and ever

You made my day

ajoguegbe:
What God checks is MOTIVE. Are they buying for status or for God's work? Jesus rode on a donkey and yet in order to preach to someone He commanded a disciple "join thyself to this chariot".(Acts 8:29) You will be shocked on the last day to find the marking scheme is not based on all this propaganda:
"Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God." 1 Cor 4:5
If with a private jet i am able to reach 5,000,000 people before I die with human criticism, I prefer it to reaching 5,000 with human praise on how humble I am.
If the poster reads the scriptures you won't be posting this because the Bible condenms our comparative analysis of God's men.
"Not that we dare to classify or compare ourselves with some of those who are commending themselves. But when they measure themselves by one another and compare themselves with one another, they are without understanding."

Bros wait till we appear before the judgment seat of Christ

thank you

btoks:
It's not mandatory that a pastor visits all countries in a week. running a private jet is extremely expensive, minimum of $1m dollars per annum. I'm sure a church can find more beneficial ways to use money.

BTW,the pope seeks no popularity. There's no need for it!!

Thank you

I was a on a flight couple of weeks ago from abuja to lagos

I saw sdb (sola David borha), the MD ceo of Stanbic ibtc group......IN ECONOMY

this is the highest paid bank ceo in nigeria as we speak (177m)

I was humbled and I remain so

btoks:
It's not mandatory that a pastor visits all countries in a week. running a private jet is extremely expensive, minimum of $1m dollars per annum. I'm sure a church can find more beneficial ways to use money.

BTW,the pope seeks no popularity. There's no need for it!!

Thank you

I was a on a flight couple of weeks ago from abuja to lagos

I saw sdb (sola David borha), the MD ceo of Stanbic ibtc group......IN ECONOMY

this is the highest paid bank ceo in nigeria as we speak (177m a year)

I was humbled and I remain so

globalresource:
@ op.. Keep hating.. .you will reap hatred in return(not a curse, but law of life). Creflo Dollar asked for money for private Jet and he gave his reasons(not steal). It is left for his congregation to make their decision on that. What the hell is your headache about that? Are you one of the people bankrolling his mission

Politicians are here stealing money.. .You remain helpless. Whereas some of these pastors like Bishop Oyedepo is not on the pay roll of the church. Many who you won't see on the pages of nairaland gives bountifully unto him and they are happy doing it. He has nothing to do with the offering. Most people hating here rarely gives in church or don't attend at all. Whereas we who gives cheerfully don't complain and we are happy doing it.

How would you compare the Pope with other pastors? Have you been to Vatican city and see for yourself.. .you would be surprise at the sight of beauty and magnificence(my due respect to the pope)

Your hatred will lead you no where. Keep googling pastors around the world.. Many have connected with them for the supernatural prosperity and you are mourning

My advice to you.. ..keep wailing. I don't expect you to grab the spiritual importance of honoring our men of God

You had celebrate when you see Jay Z with private jet but wail when Men of God use the same

Over to you destiny wailers

You actually need help

hyfr:
JESUS JESUS JESUS JESUS!!! This dude is making me crazy. Pls receive sense

Calm down

It's sarcasm

TrajansKong:
I SAY AGAIN!!

This is not the African Way.
The Pope is wrong. How can we respect him as a man of God if he travels amongst the common people? How can we glorify one who does not glorify himself? He is a messenger of God!! He should reflect God's power accordingly.We do not exalt those on our own level. A true pastor must SHOW he is above us in every way.

The Vatican has billions and BILLIONS in precious metals and stones but this pope does not display any of this for us to admire. If we cannot SEE and admire a man's power and wealth how can we follow him and give unto his glory?

This pope is a disgrace to Christianity. A man of God cannot be humble. He must be mighty as God is mighty.Fly your private jet, Papa Oyedepo! Wear your Rolex, Papa Adeboye. Wear your Armani suits Pastor Daniel! We cannot judge you as we judge ourselves. You are truly men of God. Our spiritual and earthly masters!

Yet even Christ was born in a humble manger. He wasn't even a prince..
Your stupidity and gullibility is beyong word or repair.

143boi:
obama and his family came to meet him at the foot of his plane

The Chinese who see their president, xi jin ping more like god than not was like , this is, American blasphemy. After Obama received him only at white house unlike first class treatment of pope.

Freemanan:

Granted that this cannot be argued, the Pope have his own share of cheat and deceit of the Catholic world...

PAPAL Rome is a load of corruption and sham of Christiandom. Their lies and corruption is NO where near that of NIGERIAN pastors

Bros. I beg to disagree, if Nigerian Pastors were half what PAPAL rome was then Jesus would have been born again, but this time He would rise in Nigeria

JaaizTech:


Bros. I beg to disagree, if Nigerian Pastors were half what PAPAL rome was then Jesus would have been born again, but this time He would rise in Nigeria

Mate, you should make more research on the Catholic church and it's politics... Please Google Pope Julius

TrajansKong:
I SAY AGAIN!!

This is not the African Way.
The Pope is wrong. How can we respect him as a man of God if he travels amongst the common people? How can we glorify one who does not glorify himself? He is a messenger of God!! He should reflect God's power accordingly.We do not exalt those on our own level. A true pastor must SHOW he is above us in every way.

The Vatican has billions and BILLIONS in precious metals and stones but this pope does not display any of this for us to admire. If we cannot SEE and admire a man's power and wealth how can we follow him and give unto his glory?

This pope is a disgrace to Christianity. A man of God cannot be humble. He must be mighty as God is mighty.Fly your private jet, Papa Oyedepo! Wear your Rolex, Papa Adeboye. Wear your Armani suits Pastor Daniel! We cannot judge you as we judge ourselves. You are truly men of God. Our spiritual and earthly masters!

just look @ what u re saying " A man of God cannot be humble he must be mighty as God" ur pastor don finger ur brain finish, even jesus was so humble that he wash the feet of all his disciples, he was poor so people could have a better life. On your point saying a. Man of God has to mighty as God is the greatest sin in the whole universe, that is what Licifer felt that he was cast out out of heaven. U re either a worldly pastor or senseless followers.

paris10:
The Pope's US visit was a triumph in upholding Christ teachings. If anything, one thing it does teaches us is that you don't need a private jet, nor a limousine nor even the most expensive carrier to ride in to do God's work.

It teaches us humility in the face of plenty, humbleness in the face of pride, and godliness to silence the greedy and the new generation pastors we have been condoning.

Creflor Dollar needed a $65,000 jet to do God's work ( his congregation are currently donating the money ). Adeboye, Oyedepo et al also need this amount of money to do God's work. Pope rode in a $20k mini series car. He specifically demanded this because " as a man of God you cannot live confortably and ride the most expensive cars whilst the children of God are suffering".

Over to the gullible Nigerian pastors defenders.

They will tell you that if you don't pay your robbing God .......lol


Catholic doesn't even say pay tithe because Jesus never instructed us to specifically pay tithes ...not saying that tithe isn't good

But simplicity and humility is the best


Forget most of these pastors

Rayhut:

Without Catholic Church are you going to be a Christian today, maybe without their missionary priest by now you maybe a Muslim, war is going on in south Sudan now,the only christian Evangelist there right now is the Catholic missionary priest,Jehovah's witnesses and private evangelizes. Your so called NIGERIAN pastors are enjoying with their wives and children at the comfort of their home with various private jets and luxurious life, when peace return to that country after 5years, all this Pentecostal churches will return to that country and begin to shout prosperity and my enemies die by fire,they will not go there now and shout it now, the same goes to other war torn countries like Iraq,Syria,Yemen,Libya,Afghanistan etc, all your Nigeria pastors do is to locate their churches in urban areas where they will have easy preys, that is why Catholic Church is growing from strength to strength over the years, been the single Christian religious denomination that its population around world is greater than any religious group in world because God is with them, they sustain the spread of Christianity all over the world through missionaries, in China now Catholic church have the largest congregation, are you not happy that Catholic church is winning souls for your pastor to prey on later. All Christians owed Catholic Church our prayers, without them we will not be Christians today, the northern part of Nigeria are Muslims today because the Catholic missionaries did not reach there on time. Any Christian insulting Catholic church is ungrateful and God will not be happy with ungrateful people.p

Respect sir.

most so called pastors are not preaching the true gospel anyway.

Nigerian churches have become a den of thieves and profiteers.

TrajansKong:
I SAY AGAIN!!

This is not the African Way.
The Pope is wrong. How can we respect him as a man of God if he travels amongst the common people? How can we glorify one who does not glorify himself? He is a messenger of God!! He should reflect God's power accordingly.We do not exalt those on our own level. A true pastor must SHOW he is above us in every way.

The Vatican has billions and BILLIONS in precious metals and stones but this pope does not display any of this for us to admire. If we cannot SEE and admire a man's power and wealth how can we follow him and give unto his glory?

This pope is a disgrace to Christianity. A man of God cannot be humble. He must be mighty as God is mighty.Fly your private jet, Papa Oyedepo! Wear your Rolex, Papa Adeboye. Wear your Armani suits Pastor Daniel! We cannot judge you as we judge ourselves. You are truly men of God. Our spiritual and earthly masters!

[just look @ what u re saying " A man of God cannot be humble he must be mighty as God" ur pastor don finger ur brain finish, even jesus was so humble that he wash the feet of all his disciples, he was poor so people could have a better life. On your point saying a. Man of God has to mighty as God is the greatest sin in the whole universe, that is what Licifer felt that he was cast out out of heaven. U re either a worldly pastor or senseless followers.

birdman:


I beg to disagree. The pope can request that plane anytime he wants. It is reserved for him. In essence, the state itself has bought a jet for the pope.

Now compare that with a pastor preaching a sermon in one city on saturday night, and another sermon in another time zone the next morning. Obviously driving is not feasible. Neither can you carry all your staff for 4-5 hour wait at the airport every weekend, assuming you can even find a flight when you want. Have you ever flown a 12 hour flight before? What evangelist is going to try a world missions trip lasting a 3 months flying every two to three days. Even Reinhard Bonnke, on moving to the US, needed a private jet. God so kind, he found a preacher that gave it to him for free!

Are there carnal christians and pastors that lust after jets because it is a status symbol? Yeah. But there are also carnal christians, like you, who think all there is to a plane is the status symbol. The plane is a tool. Its very effective for Ceos, vps , presidents because they can get from point a to point b quickly. . And it is a very effective tool for moving significant ministry resources from point a to point b at a moments notice

Typical Naija mindset of always defending avarice be it from politicians or pastors.. Why does a pastor who has less than 1 million congregants need a private jet? It's just for greed and materialism..Pope leads over 1bn Catholics and flies economy on a charter plane... He's official car is 2008 Ford Focus valued at less than $6000. Pope is eschewing inordinate materialism in an ocean of abundance- yes Catholic has $bns, but Naija pastors are showing inordinate thirst and love for greed and materialism in an ocean of poverty.. Work that Catholic Charities do globally are in $billions and Pope can starve them of funds in order to live an opulent lifestyle

I for like talk say #GBAM and FULL STOP to your post but I thought to add one or two more points.
1. Some of these pastors are business-minded (read Bishop Oyedepo, Pastor Chris Oyakilome). They don't depend on church funds, they simply take advantage of the number of their congregation to make money. Take Papa for instance, 200k people worship in his church every sunday. If 10% buys his books, that is 20k people. If he makes a profit of 500 per book, that is 10 million naira per freaking week. And people complain that this guy is flying jets, what do you want him to fly? Coffins? There is nobody that has influence that these guys have and will be unable to comfortably afford a jet. these guys dropping their jets for economy class tickets is simply their prerogative and nobody's freaking business. Meanwhile, before anyone blabs their mouth, how many of you have a range rover and a Toyota Carina and prefer to cruise the Carina everywhere? Except owu dey blow you.

Kudos Birdman,your comment make sense well well

birdman:


I beg to disagree. The pope can request that plane anytime he wants. It is reserved for him. In essence, the state itself has bought a jet for the pope.

Now compare that with a pastor preaching a sermon in one city on saturday night, and another sermon in another time zone the next morning. Obviously driving is not feasible. Neither can you carry all your staff for 4-5 hour wait at the airport every weekend, assuming you can even find a flight when you want. Have you ever flown a 12 hour flight before? What evangelist is going to try a world missions trip lasting a 3 months flying every two to three days. Even Reinhard Bonnke, on moving to the US, needed a private jet. God so kind, he found a preacher that gave it to him for free!

Are there carnal christians and pastors that lust after jets because it is a status symbol? Yeah. But there are also carnal christians, like you, who think all there is to a plane is the status symbol. The plane is a tool. Its very effective for Ceos, vps , presidents because they can get from point a to point b quickly. . And it is a very effective tool for moving significant ministry resources from point a to point b at a moments notice

freaking business. Meanwhile, before anyone blabs their mouth, how many of you have a range rover and a Toyota Carina and prefer to cruise the Carina everywhere? Except owu dey blow you.

Kudos Birdman,your comment make sense well well

birdman:


I beg to disagree. The pope can request that plane anytime he wants. It is reserved for him. In essence, the state itself has bought a jet for the pope.

Now compare that with a pastor preaching a sermon in one city on saturday night, and another sermon in another time zone the next morning. Obviously driving is not feasible. Neither can you carry all your staff for 4-5 hour wait at the airport every weekend, assuming you can even find a flight when you want. Have you ever flown a 12 hour flight before? What evangelist is going to try a world missions trip lasting a 3 months flying every two to three days. Even Reinhard Bonnke, on moving to the US, needed a private jet. God so kind, he found a preacher that gave it to him for free!

Are there carnal christians and pastors that lust after jets because it is a status symbol? Yeah. But there are also carnal christians, like you, who think all there is to a plane is the status symbol. The plane is a tool. Its very effective for Ceos, vps , presidents because they can get from point a to point b quickly. . And it is a very effective tool for moving significant ministry resources from point a to point b at a moments notice