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Re: Paris Terror Attacks Is Obama And Nato's Handwork by Nobody: 10:33am On Nov 14, 2015
PappyMason:


I am only responsible for what I post. Their level of comprehension is not my concern. If they needed clarification why did they not simply ask rather than haul insults at me.

If they don't agree can't they state why and move on? Why should they insult me
Okay o. Only that I find it hard to distinguish a person who insults a person and idea from the person who corrects them by insulting them.
Re: Paris Terror Attacks Is Obama And Nato's Handwork by SirLewis(m): 10:35am On Nov 14, 2015
Reyginus:
The terrorists are not foolish. If I know you listen to my calls wouldn't I look for a way to shut you out? This people are not foolish. And the possibility of it being the Americans is not high except you are of the opinion that a high level technology and intelligence equates all crimes.

That's the exact thing! The aim is not to prevent the attacks, it's to see that it blossoms so as to arouse public hatred for ISIS. Give a dog a bad name you may call it. Jihadi John was identified with just his voice and eyes, how? He was killed in a drone strike, how did they know his exact location? Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the self declared leader of ISIS is so scared of using phones to communicate he passes messages from one minion to another. Assuming they knew the attacks were going to happen, they could have stopped it, but that would be counter productive. Remember Charlie Hebdo? Remember the publicity that came after it? Think about how big the news of this attack is going to be in the next few days and the public outcry to follow. Think of how quick the US and UK were to claim that the Russian plain that crashed in Egypt was a terrorist attack by ISIS. Now think of the war in Syria and Obama's sudden decision to have troops there. Is the picture getting clearer?

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Re: Paris Terror Attacks Is Obama And Nato's Handwork by Nobody: 10:40am On Nov 14, 2015
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Re: Paris Terror Attacks Is Obama And Nato's Handwork by Nobody: 10:42am On Nov 14, 2015
PappyMason:


You seem to overestimate America's capabilities.

The Americans only have one thing above the Russians and Chinese and that is their ability to quickly deploy troops any where around the world. But that doesnt make them better strategist or fighters than the Russian or Chinese

The Chinese have called every American threat in the Yellow Sea and south east Asia; Russia deployed troops in the heart of America's latest war games since September 23 and up till now the US is yet to match Russia's strenght on ground in Syria.

America is not all you assume her to be.

I think it's the other way round. Russia is like a strong kid who lacks strategy. A kind of Ryback in WWE. The Americans are like a Cena. Endure, smoke screen but win. Or more like Hitler(Russia) and a Napoleon (US).

Please don't bring the Chinese yet they are not qualified to be discussed here. Somebody spends more on his military, has the best spy group, has the most allies, deceive and lie more but seen as honorable, world currency and you still think Russia has upper hand. These powers will not be put to use?

But that's not even the argument.
Re: Paris Terror Attacks Is Obama And Nato's Handwork by Rotimi47: 10:42am On Nov 14, 2015
bettercreature:
@OP You actually have no senses
It was a well planned coordinated attack
They have been plaining it for a very long time its just a coincidence with Jihadi johns death
You can not get all the amunitions and suicide belts they used withing 24hours
Stop thinking like a cum rag
I'm expecting france to LAUNCH a deadly ground assault in iraq and syria next week
No organisation or government in europe on america is capable of supporting terrorist because most government spy on their allies and their security agents
Bad guy. grin
Re: Paris Terror Attacks Is Obama And Nato's Handwork by Nobody: 10:46am On Nov 14, 2015
SirLewis:
That's the exact thing! The aim is not to prevent the attacks, it's to see that it blossoms so as to arouse public hatred for ISIS. Give a dog a bad name you may call it. Jihadi John was identified with just his voice and eyes, how? He was killed in a drone strike, how did they know his exact location? Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the self declared leader of ISIS is so scared of using phones to communicate he passes messages from one minion to another. Assuming they knew the attacks were going to happen, they could have stopped it, but that would be counter productive. Remember Charlie Hebdo? Remember the publicity that came after it? Think about how big the news of this attack is going to be in the next few days and the public outcry to follow. Think of how quick the US and UK were to claim that the Russian plain that crashed in Egypt was a terrorist attack by ISIS. Now think of the war in Syria and Obama's sudden decision to have troops there. Is the picture getting clearer?
You are painting a picture that may not fit in this problem. The problem here is that a bomb went off, people died and you term it as America strategy. It can also fit in with the actions of disgruntled elements in the state. The analysis is weak to hold down America.
Re: Paris Terror Attacks Is Obama And Nato's Handwork by Nobody: 10:49am On Nov 14, 2015
PappyMason:


So what do you want me to clarify
You see, the attack can be explained in more than hundred plots. There's a reason we must settle for one. What's the reason here?
Re: Paris Terror Attacks Is Obama And Nato's Handwork by juman(m): 10:50am On Nov 14, 2015
My heart goes to the victims and their families.
Re: Paris Terror Attacks Is Obama And Nato's Handwork by simplemusic(m): 10:51am On Nov 14, 2015
Crude oil can't be the only solution to the world energy problems I think there should be other more simpler to harness sources I am also not a fan of nuclear energy
Re: Paris Terror Attacks Is Obama And Nato's Handwork by juman(m): 10:51am On Nov 14, 2015
I think the western leaders are confused.
Re: Paris Terror Attacks Is Obama And Nato's Handwork by simplemusic(m): 10:53am On Nov 14, 2015
America will fail in syria
Re: Paris Terror Attacks Is Obama And Nato's Handwork by Nobody: 10:58am On Nov 14, 2015
SirLewis:
That's the exact thing! The aim is not to prevent the attacks, it's to see that it blossoms so as to arouse public hatred for ISIS. Give a dog a bad name you may call it. Jihadi John was identified with just his voice and eyes, how? He was killed in a drone strike, how did they know his exact location? Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the self declared leader of ISIS is so scared of using phones to communicate he passes messages from one minion to another. Assuming they knew the attacks were going to happen, they could have stopped it, but that would be counter productive. Remember Charlie Hebdo? Remember the publicity that came after it? Think about how big the news of this attack is going to be in the next few days and the public outcry to follow. Think of how quick the US and UK were to claim that the Russian plain that crashed in Egypt was a terrorist attack by ISIS. Now think of the war in Syria and Obama's sudden decision to have troops there. Is the picture getting clearer?

I will give them a month to understand and by then you will have seen NATO troops in Syria and the objective won't be about fighting ISIS but engaging Russia.

Just wait and see.
Re: Paris Terror Attacks Is Obama And Nato's Handwork by SirLewis(m): 10:58am On Nov 14, 2015
Reyginus:
You are painting a picture that may not fit in this problem. The problem here is that a bomb went off, people died and you term it as America strategy. It can also fit in with the actions of disgruntled elements in the state. The analysis is weak to hold down America.
To each his own. I can't shake hands with a man who has attempted to use same hand to kill his own family with a gun. In your spare time you can Google "Operation Northwoods" and just mull over the war in Afghanistan after 9/11.

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Re: Paris Terror Attacks Is Obama And Nato's Handwork by Nobody: 11:08am On Nov 14, 2015
SirLewis:
To each his own. I can't shake hands with a man who has attempted to use same hand to kill his own family with a gun. In your spare time you can Google "Operation Northwoods" and just mull over the war in Afghanistan after 9/11.
You still don't get my point. I read 9/11 imploded and I suspect it but I wouldn't blame them for other crimes even if I am sure they staged 9/11. I need better analysis.
Re: Paris Terror Attacks Is Obama And Nato's Handwork by Nobody: 11:13am On Nov 14, 2015
Reyginus:
You still don't get my point. I read 9/11 imploded and I suspect it but I wouldn't blame them for other crimes even if I am sure they staged 9/11. I need better analysis.

If you are sure that the US govt staged one of the biggest and most elaborate terror attacks then why is it hard for you to see that the Paris attacks which was on a smaller scale can't be their handwork?

One of the reasons people began to aske questions and suspect the US govt complicity was because of the elaborate scale and lax security just before the attacks.

America and NATO have their hands all over this attack just as I AM HUNDRED PERCENT convinced that ISIS is an American creation.
Re: Paris Terror Attacks Is Obama And Nato's Handwork by Nobody: 11:17am On Nov 14, 2015
America is on full swing.

Their other now lesser evil, Al Qaeda has come out to condemn the attacks in Paris.

You off course know what this means? It means Obama who has been exposed as being behind the barbaric ISIS will be transferring all US support to Al Qaeda's affiliate in Syria - Al Nusra.

I just dey laff...

Re: Paris Terror Attacks Is Obama And Nato's Handwork by Nobody: 11:21am On Nov 14, 2015
PappyMason:


If you are sure that the US govt staged one of the biggest and most elaborate terror attacks then why is it had for you to see that the Paris attacks which was on a smaller scale can't be their handwork?

One of the reasons people began to aske questions and suspect the US govt complicity was because of the elaborate scale and lax security just before the attacks.

America and NATO have their hands all over this attack just as I AM HUNDRED PERCENT convinced that ISIS is an American creation.
I didn't say I am sure they staged 9/11 but 'even if I am sure' they staged it I wouldn't say they are responsible for this one.

Hundred percent convinced. Lol. You see, I try to always stand outside whatever thing I read or study. Within it I may be suffocated from interacting with only one experience. I advise you do same. You cannot be hindered percent sure they did it and give this as evidence. It should come with something better.
Re: Paris Terror Attacks Is Obama And Nato's Handwork by Lordave: 11:25am On Nov 14, 2015
People keep hating on America for no good reason. The same America that has been housing Millions of your likes with almost equal opportunities given to them as every other person.

I'm yet to see how a Russia world power would impact on us positively.

OP, this your observation is holds no water.
Re: Paris Terror Attacks Is Obama And Nato's Handwork by Nobody: 11:30am On Nov 14, 2015
Reyginus:
I didn't say I am sure they staged 9/11 but 'even if I am sure' they staged it I wouldn't say they are responsible for this one.

Hundred percent convinced. Lol. You see, I try to always stand outside whatever thing I read or study. Within it I may be suffocated from interacting with only one experience. I advise you do same. You cannot be hindered percent sure they did it and give this as evidence. It should come with something better.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44vzMNG2fZc
Re: Paris Terror Attacks Is Obama And Nato's Handwork by Nobody: 1:51am On Nov 16, 2015
There is no war on terror! There is a war using terrorist proxy groups being used against nation states who are resisting US hegemony (in the ongoing currency war).

These terrorists are funded and trained by western intelligence agencies.

There is no such thing as ISIS! ISIS is a creation of the US. We know this from declassified US documents from the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA).

The French government is attempting to drum up support for more military intervention in Syria! They want to get in on the game! The game is almost lost to Russia who is destroying the ISIS proxy army.

You have ISIS forces coming into Europe disguised as refugees – they will destabilize central Europe.

The French government wants to get in on the game in Syria and prop up those so called “moderate” rebels. There are no “moderate” rebels in Syria!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7GAbVhjTSw

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Re: Paris Terror Attacks Is Obama And Nato's Handwork by fineguy11(m): 4:38am On Nov 16, 2015
PappyMason:
How can ISIS respond in less than 24hrs 2,000 miles away hitting multiple targets in a cosmopolitan city like Paris with all the security network in place?


This was an ISIS job no doubt but they got a lot of help from their CIA and MI5 buddies.

This attack came too close after the fake announcement of Jihadi John's death.

Don't fall for this US false flag bullsh1t.

Obama is desperate to send boots to Syria to engage Russia.

Jihadi John is a myth created from a CIA file. He is the perfect bogey man just like Osama bin laden and our very own recycled Shekau!

They timed the announcement of his death to coincide before the attacks.

If ISIS is NOT a CIA operation I don't see how they will respond in less than 24 hrs of the death of one of their commanders 2,000 miles away.

How did they coordinate such a complex operation involving suicide bombings, and 6 other gun attacks including a hostage standoff?


ISIS could only do this with inside help within Europe's security apparatus.

Don't be fooled Jihadi John's death was just an excuse to wage this false flag operation to get Europeans to support their countries sending troops to a US led coalition in pretense of dislodging ISIS in Syria.

The false flag operation is to get Europeans and Americans agreeing to allow their govts send troops to Syria to IN PRETENSE to dislodge ISIS BUT watch how the narrative and objectives will change once Obama and NATO gets troops in Syria.

This is all about Russia's presence in Syria.
who told u they attacked paris because of jihadi john?that attack took months to plan...its wasnt unexpected,france has a huge muslim population,and radicalization has being on the rise in france,coupled with the fact that france security intellegence outfit has be ineffective and abysmal.....this has nothing to do with russia actions in syria,its simply terrorism...its not every incident u draw up phony conspiracy theories on..

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Re: Paris Terror Attacks Is Obama And Nato's Handwork by fineguy11(m): 4:44am On Nov 16, 2015
PappyMason:
29,000 Nigerians will soon be heading back home from the UK alone.

African migrants will be rounded up and deported across Europe to pave way for the Arab Muslim "refugees".

In all their show of goodwill, the EU does not give a rat's ass about the real victims and refugees in Syria and Iraq - Christians, Kurds and Yazidis are being turned down in place of Muslim men of fighting age.

I hold this theory that NATO is amassing an army drawn from Arab Muslims to train and deploy back to Syria to engage Russia.

This may sound far fetched but when you see that 80% of the so called refugees are men of fighting age and over 70% are neither from Syria or northern Iraq and the desperation by the EU to force member states against their wish to either allow the refugees to pass undocumented through their borders like in Hungary and Czech Republic or to house them then there seems to be something fishy.

You also need to see that this generation of European man childs and their effeminate beta character do not make for a good pool to draw up a volunteer or drafted army.

You may ask why Syria? What is so important and strategic about Syria that NATO will be desperate to stage a false flag and host a Muslim army recruitment on their soil?

The answer is simply the same reason there are wars in the middle east - Oil.

The EU is desperate on weaning themselves from Russian energy. The standoff in Ukraine is all because they wanted to undermine Russia's influence globally by causing havoc at her backyard. Why you say? Because Russian allies like Syria will fall in line when Russia is made weak.

The EU wants a pipeline from Saudi Arabia through Syria into Europe.

Saudi pumping too much crude is to financially weaken Russia and Iran.

so u're saying the west is about trainning syrians to fight russia's SU 24"S and SU 30"S?the last time i checked ,,there are no russian boots on syrian soil and tne putin i knw will never put russian boots in syria..,,u're just obssessed with conspiracy theories..
Re: Paris Terror Attacks Is Obama And Nato's Handwork by ItsMeAboki(m): 6:26am On Nov 16, 2015
Its all about Karma:

Re: Paris Terror Attacks Is Obama And Nato's Handwork by Dantee005(m): 7:14am On Nov 16, 2015
#2 much watching of mission impossible #
Re: Paris Terror Attacks Is Obama And Nato's Handwork by seagulsntrawler: 8:21am On Nov 16, 2015
Fash20:
This thing called Pappymason is crazy

Ask yourself this question.Is there any beef between france and USA? Why would CIA and MI5 sponsor a terrorist attack on innocent french people.

It is something that has been happening for hundreds of years and you would be surprised how effective it is in Nigeria too. False flag attacks are to create fear and panic among the populace so as to achieve certain goals e.g clamping down on human and civic rights. Please do your research on OPERATION GLADIO.

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Re: Paris Terror Attacks Is Obama And Nato's Handwork by seagulsntrawler: 8:34am On Nov 16, 2015
ISIS has killed more moslems and has not even thrown a fire cracker at Israel yet people believe there are moderate rebels in Syria and that the US has been bombing ISIS not supporting it.
There is information everywhere but everywhere you turn ignorant and ill-informed people abound. undecided
Re: Paris Terror Attacks Is Obama And Nato's Handwork by nwanwaoge(m): 8:43am On Nov 16, 2015
Fash20:
This thing called Pappymason is crazy

Ask yourself this question.Is there any beef between france and USA? Why would CIA and MI5 sponsor a terrorist attack on innocent french people.

...for an agenda to be achieved,they care less abt innocent souls...911 was done to enable them visit n enter Iraq et al.

Let's try to see thru the smoky screen since we are powerless....incoming months might bring a push for the US and allies to enter Syria...expect more bombings of places in Germany, spain ,france,..etc
Re: Paris Terror Attacks Is Obama And Nato's Handwork by dfav: 8:49am On Nov 16, 2015
Reyginus:
Now you lost me.

me too...

i dont knw where that dude got his infos from
Re: Paris Terror Attacks Is Obama And Nato's Handwork by PabloAfricanus(m): 8:50am On Nov 16, 2015
PappyMason:
29,000 Nigerians will soon be heading back home from the UK alone.

African migrants will be rounded up and deported across Europe to pave way for the Arab Muslim "refugees".

In all their show of goodwill, the EU does not give a rat's ass about the real victims and refugees in Syria and Iraq - Christians, Kurds and Yazidis are being turned down in place of Muslim men of fighting age.

I hold this theory that NATO is amassing an army drawn from Arab Muslims to train and deploy back to Syria to engage Russia.

This may sound far fetched but when you see that 80% of the so called refugees are men of fighting age and over 70% are neither from Syria or northern Iraq and the desperation by the EU to force member states against their wish to either allow the refugees to pass undocumented through their borders like in Hungary and Czech Republic or to house them then there seems to be something fishy.

You also need to see that this generation of European man childs and their effeminate beta character do not make for a good pool to draw up a volunteer or drafted army.

You may ask why Syria? What is so important and strategic about Syria that NATO will be desperate to stage a false flag and host a Muslim army recruitment on their soil?

The answer is simply the same reason there are wars in the middle east - Oil.

The EU is desperate on weaning themselves from Russian energy. The standoff in Ukraine is all because they wanted to undermine Russia's influence globally by causing havoc at her backyard. Why you say? Because Russian allies like Syria will fall in line when Russia is made weak.

The EU wants a pipeline from Saudi Arabia through Syria into Europe.

Saudi pumping too much crude is to financially weaken Russia and Iran.


Insightful.
Good to know some folks here are following the global trends.
The brouhaha is actually not about oil per se….as the US still has one of the largest untapped reserves in the world. Their strategic planners discovered that the dollars would not serve effectively as the global reserve currency if the US competed directly with oil producers in the Middle East.
They needed an external agent cum ally to simulate a scenario where the largest producers only accept US dollars for crude oil pricing.
Saudi Arabi and OPEC effectively guaranteed that… enforced ofcourse by threats of economic sabotage and military invasion.
If America had been producing her vast reserves in Alaska and elsewhere… the Arabs and other oil producing countries would have had reason to demand payment in their own currencies too.
After all its their oil. This would have defeated of America's hegemony globally.
For decades, crude oil price has been inflated and does not match real world demand and supply dynamics. American and European hedge funds have had a field day buying and selling crude without touching the physical commodity. All thanks to petrodollars recycling… a new wonder of this age.
Its a fight to determine the next reserve currency used to price energy and global commodities.
Re: Paris Terror Attacks Is Obama And Nato's Handwork by Fash20: 9:38am On Nov 16, 2015
seagulsntrawler:

It is something that has been happening for hundreds of years and you would be surprised how effective it is in Nigeria too. False flag attacks are to create fear and panic among the populace so as to achieve certain goals e.g clamping down on human and civic rights. Please do your research on OPERATION GLADIO.
Alright
Re: Paris Terror Attacks Is Obama And Nato's Handwork by Fash20: 9:38am On Nov 16, 2015
nwanwaoge:
...for an agenda to be achieved,they care less abt innocent souls...911 was done to enable them visit n enter Iraq et al.

Let's try to see thru the smoky screen since we are powerless....incoming months might bring a push for the US and allies to enter Syria...expect more bombings of places in Germany, spain ,france,..etc
sure!

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Re: Paris Terror Attacks Is Obama And Nato's Handwork by Nobody: 10:25am On Nov 16, 2015
PabloAfricanus:


Insightful.
Good to know some folks here are following the global trends.
The brouhaha is actually not about oil per se….as the US still has one of the largest untapped reserves in the world. Their strategic planners discovered that the dollars would not serve effectively as the global reserve currency if the US competed directly with oil producers in the Middle East.
They needed an external agent cum ally to simulate a scenario where the largest producers only accept US dollars for crude oil pricing.
Saudi Arabi and OPEC effectively guaranteed that… enforced ofcourse by threats of economic sabotage and military invasion.
If America had been producing her vast reserves in Alaska and elsewhere… the Arabs and other oil producing countries would have had reason to demand payment in their own currencies too.
After all its their oil. This would have defeated of America's hegemony globally.
For decades, crude oil price has been inflated and does not match real world demand and supply dynamics. American and European hedge funds have had a field day buying and selling crude without touching the physical commodity. All thanks to petrodollars recycling… a new wonder of this age.
Its a fight to determine the next reserve currency used to price energy and global commodities.

a currency war has been ongoing since Nixon decided to leave the gold standard.

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