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Re: Fashola Is A Capitalist, Too Many Capital Intensive Projects, Pls Come Down. by moneygurl: 11:57pm On May 18, 2009
I do not see anything wrong with the 10 lane in Abuja (even though the cost is a little suspect) or the LAgos-Kano rail  (on hold or cancelled) either.

The Lagos-badagry 10  lane is also going to have rail.

Walakolobo, what exactly is the Lagos state govt suppose to do with the money, as in specifics?
Re: Fashola Is A Capitalist, Too Many Capital Intensive Projects, Pls Come Down. by ikeyman00(m): 12:13am On May 19, 2009
shocked
Re: Fashola Is A Capitalist, Too Many Capital Intensive Projects, Pls Come Down. by loyeruope: 1:25am On May 19, 2009
@Poster,
Can you give examples of what Fashola should be doing for the "dying common man"?
And when you use the word "capitalist", please know that it can be a complimentary remark in some circles.
Also, can you kindly tell me how any of what he is doing right now will not ultimately benefit the "dying common man" in the long run?

Please note, politicians are judged by how well they deliver on their campaign promises. Fashola has delivered and is delivering on his, Yar'Adua has not and both were sworn in at the same time, if you look at all these questions through an objective lens, then you will begin to start to understand why some people were mad at you. Though I wouldn't justify the calling of each other names.
Re: Fashola Is A Capitalist, Too Many Capital Intensive Projects, Pls Come Down. by Nobody: 8:42am On May 19, 2009
To be honest, I lost my interest in Fashola. His visions seem more of an elite society. Actually I lost interest since he tried to claim our Family land as government property but unfortunately for him, he was dealing with Aromire and not Akpeloko. Fashola is an elitist to me. Eko Atlantic is a total waste of money and no environmentalist questioned his action. He started with planting trees which we all loved very much but he has become more of a pollutant his projects lately. But Mr poster, that's not the meaning of capitalist. I think all this tenure seem to be about is mouth and mouth!!!!! From Yaradua to Fashola. I'll do this, I'll do that. Are they crazy? He should fund revenue generating projects like electricity, Affording housing. Lagos could use a lot of Hi rise apartments cause of population and land availabilty but instead he wants to build a road pass my great great grand papa land. Which of course he needs to rent cause we ain't selling it but he tried saying it belonged to the government but he lost big time. He should pick the Akpelokos next time.!!!!!!
Re: Fashola Is A Capitalist, Too Many Capital Intensive Projects, Pls Come Down. by desgiezd(m): 9:35am On May 19, 2009
walakolobo:

Okay, my point has been proved. I see a lot of double talk on NairaLand, it seems to me it is guided by what party you belong to, what tribe you belong to or what side of the bed you woke up from. These same people who count anything done by the central government as a waste of tax payers money, the same people who shout to the heavens on every project initiated by the central government, the same people who will rather the government provide food and social infrastructure, these are the same people also lauding the spending of money in Lagos State, I now learn one thing, on NairaLand, expect double talk, expect political sidelining, expect tribal sidelining, do not expect objective discuss.

Thank you all, the moderator can now close this thread, I now know the people to take seriously and those not to take seriously, I have read loads of comments from these same people when it comes on lambasting and criticising the central government, nothing is spared, no project is necessary when it is initiated by the central government, but when it is Lagos, he might as well spend the whole money on such project and neglect the hungry people. hmmm, human beings will always be human beings.

Warped, seriously warped thinking!!

Why dont you invite Akala to come over and govern Lagos!!
Re: Fashola Is A Capitalist, Too Many Capital Intensive Projects, Pls Come Down. by OneNaija(m): 9:38am On May 19, 2009
@9jaganja becos he stole your family land that mean an angel is now a satan abi? Witch na dey worried you well well. idiot
Re: Fashola Is A Capitalist, Too Many Capital Intensive Projects, Pls Come Down. by Lagosboy: 10:08am On May 19, 2009
Lol
If you embark on CAPITAL intensive projects, that means you are a CAPITALIST. If you embark on social projects like Eyo festival, okonko or argungu, that means you are a SOCIALIST; if you embark on Community services, that means you are a COMMUNIST. I learn a lot from Nairaland.

grin grin grin grin

Seriuosly the 10 lane in badagry is more than neccessary and i think ikorodu road and Oshodi - apapa way should follow suit. Agege motor road should also be expanded to at least 8 lanes as well.

these roads are major link roads in Lagos and if Fashola could do all these then he would have achicved something laudable not forgeting the 4th mainland bridge to open up ikorodu.
Re: Fashola Is A Capitalist, Too Many Capital Intensive Projects, Pls Come Down. by walakolobo: 10:15am On May 19, 2009
noone has said how these projects help the common man, apart from curses and co, I need someone wiser to contribute.
Re: Fashola Is A Capitalist, Too Many Capital Intensive Projects, Pls Come Down. by ikeyman00(m): 10:17am On May 19, 2009
Re: Fashola Is A Capitalist, Too Many Capital Intensive Projects, Pls Come Down. by Remii(m): 10:19am On May 19, 2009
Lagosboy:

grin grin grin grin

Seriuosly the 10 lane in badagry is more than neccessary and i think ikorodu road and Oshodi - apapa way should follow suit. Agege motor road should also be expanded to at least 8 lanes as well.

these roads are major link roads in Lagos and if Fashola could do all these then he would have achicved something laudable not forgeting the 4th mainland bridge to open up ikorodu.



I agree with you, with good access roads, Lagos would be a great place to sstay. On weekends and in the nights, it takes about 30 minutes to drive from Ojodu Berger to Chevron in Lekki, while it may take 9hrs on some day time driving. Lagos is not that big, it is lack of access roads makes living a hell.
Re: Fashola Is A Capitalist, Too Many Capital Intensive Projects, Pls Come Down. by desgiezd(m): 10:35am On May 19, 2009
walakolobo:

noone has said how these projects help the common man, apart from curses and co, I need someone wiser to contribute.

Ok, let's break it down.

During construction, " the common man" would be employed by the construction firms as part-time workers. Some would be engaged in supplying items that could be used for the construction. The puff-puff sellers, the mama puts, pure water hawkers, soft drinks sellers and cigarette hawkers would also sell their wares to construction workers.

On completion, those "common men" who need to quickly pursue one business interest or the other and needed to do so within a given time frame and had lost such opportunites as a result of traffic hold up would now be spending less time in traffic and still achieve their business objectives.
Re: Fashola Is A Capitalist, Too Many Capital Intensive Projects, Pls Come Down. by toshacer: 12:07pm On May 19, 2009
@Desgie

If that is the way it will benefit the common man, why is it that the likes of you also said that the railway system from Lagos to Kano and from PH to Maiduguri is a white elephant, why is that?
Re: Fashola Is A Capitalist, Too Many Capital Intensive Projects, Pls Come Down. by desgiezd(m): 12:16pm On May 19, 2009
@ tosh acer

It is so good that Nairaland allows people to view previous posts of others, you can avail yourself of this opportunity and point out where I wrote about the inappropriateness of rail transportation from Lagos to Kano and from Port Harcourt to Maiduguri.
Re: Fashola Is A Capitalist, Too Many Capital Intensive Projects, Pls Come Down. by toshacer: 12:22pm On May 19, 2009
the likes of you doesnt necessarily mean you, it is English 401 sir!
Re: Fashola Is A Capitalist, Too Many Capital Intensive Projects, Pls Come Down. by desgiezd(m): 12:41pm On May 19, 2009
Thank you for your efforts in trying to teach me English Language but I would have preferred you start with the basics such as  A = Antelope, B = Ball etc.

I still need to understand why you have to categorise me with those who oppose those rail projects.
Re: Fashola Is A Capitalist, Too Many Capital Intensive Projects, Pls Come Down. by DisGuy: 2:27pm On May 19, 2009
To be honest, I lost my interest in Fashola. His visions seem more of an elite society.

was wondering same thing too sometimes, I mean most of these development seems to be lekki,epe bound
most part of teh state is crying out for transformers like in ther otehr thread, roads and whats with agberos
there are no public announcement concerning their activities or are they untouchable?

No big plans for education and health issues as well they hospitals are filthy!!!


Fashola is doing good but he needs to do more!
the commisioners should pull their socks up!

before any praise singer rush here- FASHOLA is one of the best governors we've had in nigeria! grin
Re: Fashola Is A Capitalist, Too Many Capital Intensive Projects, Pls Come Down. by deb(m): 2:29pm On May 19, 2009
Ten lane road that will be completed in four years and many more capital intensive projects embarked upon by Fashola has nothing in stock for the dying common man in the state, he is a capitalist who doesnt have programmes for the masses, can someone please tell him to come down and do something fo the teeming hungry masses? These monies he is spending can go a long way to do good for the poor in the state.

I could give you PHD for criticism you know?

If the guy does not utilize our money properly, you will call him thief, now he is spending money on the state and we can all see the result
yet you are complaining. Maybe you want him to go on the street to start distributing money. How else will the
Masses get busy if the government is not introducing and executing projects? check your brain man! needs some fixing

All the PHD holders in criticism keep complaining. Eko o ni baje
Re: Fashola Is A Capitalist, Too Many Capital Intensive Projects, Pls Come Down. by moneygurl: 2:37pm On May 19, 2009
9jaganja:

To be honest, I lost my interest in Fashola. His visions seem more of an elite society. Actually I lost interest since he tried to claim our Family land as government property but unfortunately for him, he was dealing with Aromire and not Akpeloko. Fashola is an elitist to me. Eko Atlantic is a total waste of money and no environmentalist questioned his action. He started with planting trees which we all loved very much but he has become more of a pollutant his projects lately. But Mr poster, that's not the meaning of capitalist. I think all this tenure seem to be about is mouth and mouth!!!!! From Yaradua to Fashola. I'll do this, I'll do that. Are they crazy? He should fund revenue generating projects like electricity, Affording housing. Lagos could use a lot of Hi rise apartments cause of population and land availabilty but instead he wants to build a road pass my great great grand papa land. Which of course he needs to rent cause we ain't selling it but he tried saying it belonged to the government but he lost big time. He should pick the Akpelokos next time.!!!!!!

So affordable housing is revenue generating in Nigeria? In a country half of the population dont pay thier house bills, so you expect the govt to put the money in building houses? why dont you leave that to the private sector and let the govt provide the water, electricity, roads that the house will need, and will bring investors. the hight rise apartments you are talking about should also be handled by the private sector, not govt.

EKO ATLANTIC is a PRIVATE project, the state govt is not funding it. Nobody is going to force anybody to live there if they dont want to.
Re: Fashola Is A Capitalist, Too Many Capital Intensive Projects, Pls Come Down. by toshacer: 2:43pm On May 19, 2009
Just like the poster said:

DOUBLE TALK, DOUBLE TALK, DOUBLE TALK.
Re: Fashola Is A Capitalist, Too Many Capital Intensive Projects, Pls Come Down. by moneygurl: 2:53pm On May 19, 2009
Dis Guy:

was wondering same thing too sometimes, I mean most of these development seems to be lekki,epe bound
most part of teh state is crying out for transformers like in ther otehr thread, roads and whats with agberos
there are no public announcement concerning their activities or are they untouchable?

No big plans for education and health issues as well they hospitals are filthy!!!


Fashola is doing good but he needs to do more!
the commisioners should pull their socks up!

before any praise singer rush here- FASHOLA is one of the best governors we've had in nigeria! grin

please be aware that not all the project makes the headline and are put in Nairaland for everyone to see.education in public schools are free and since fashola came in students now get textbook for free. The govt has also embarked on rebuilding the jakande style schools, and turning them into 2 -3 floors schools.

New health centers are been constructed (mushin, Ajegunle, ijaye) and renoveted and the same time more popular hosiptals like the Gbagada hospital is currently getting renoveted and expanded.

The lagos- badagry road you are talking about is going to be starting form mile 2 all the way to the badagry border.

@ tosh-acer

What is the double talk.
Re: Fashola Is A Capitalist, Too Many Capital Intensive Projects, Pls Come Down. by Nobody: 6:28pm On May 19, 2009
moneygurl:

So affordable housing is revenue generating in Nigeria? In a country half of the population dont pay thier house bills, so you expect the govt to put the money in building houses? why dont you leave that to the private sector and let the govt provide the water, electricity, roads that the house will need, and will bring investors. the hight rise apartments you are talking about should also be handled by the private sector, not govt.

EKO ATLANTIC is a PRIVATE project, the state govt is not funding it. Nobody is going to force anybody to live there if they dont want to.



Babe, Where are all the houses the government of Lagos state built and sold? All sold and they profited from it too. You think people don't pay their bills? who's fault is that? The government has the right to have people using government provided amenities to pay taxes or bills. Why are they not using that right? cause the amenities currently provided get comma. I don't care if Eko Atlantic is a private project or not, it' a waste of money. If people don't pay their bills what do you think the aftermath of the Eko atlantic will be? Total waste. Public transport in Lagos will go a long way to generate funds. If private sector starts developing this hi rise apartments, trust me, you are going to turn Lagos housing estate to another New York's unreal housing estate cause price will sky rocket. Lagos housing estate is currently more expensive than that of L.A. Lagos ranks 31 as one of world's expensive cities while L.A is like 40 or so.
Re: Fashola Is A Capitalist, Too Many Capital Intensive Projects, Pls Come Down. by DRANOEL(m): 6:35pm On May 19, 2009
@poster

do you have any frikkin idea of the definition of capitalist?
Re: Fashola Is A Capitalist, Too Many Capital Intensive Projects, Pls Come Down. by KnowAll(m): 6:45pm On May 19, 2009
Mr poster who do you think the trains fashola is going to build is for, the so called blue line and red line. You think big men will come out of their luxurious and take a train ride from Agege to Marina. If he delivers the trains he has taken out one of the principle burden affecting 85% of commuters in lagos. The masses will surly benefit from this.
Re: Fashola Is A Capitalist, Too Many Capital Intensive Projects, Pls Come Down. by toshacer: 7:09pm On May 19, 2009
So why do the same people say that the Lagos/Kano rail line and the PH/Maidiguri rail line are elephant projects that wont benefit anyone?
Re: Fashola Is A Capitalist, Too Many Capital Intensive Projects, Pls Come Down. by walakolobo: 7:27pm On May 19, 2009
You can define capitalist anyway you want, but the meaning of my thread is not lost on many.
Re: Fashola Is A Capitalist, Too Many Capital Intensive Projects, Pls Come Down. by Topsido(m): 11:30am On May 20, 2009
Common man koo, uncommon man niii angry
Fashola is on the right track
Re: Fashola Is A Capitalist, Too Many Capital Intensive Projects, Pls Come Down. by Nobody: 6:54pm On May 20, 2009
OneNaija:

@9jaganja becos he stole your family land that mean an angel is now a satan abi? Witch na dey worried you well well. idiot

Hey dolo, he tried but failed. The next governor of Lagos state can try again. They'll have to pay rent cause the land is not for sale. Camel humping mofo, which angel will try to unconstitutionally take what belongs to people? He was trying to use force but the court settled it and he (Lagos state government) agreed to pay rent if the land falls in a place the government needs. intellectual midget can't even comprehend my previous post

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