Russia's Sergey Lavrov is not one foreign minister known to mince his words. Just earlier today, 24 hours after a Russian plane was brought down by the country whose president three years ago said "a short-term border violation can never be a pretext for an attack", had this to say: "We have serious doubts this was an unintended incident and believe this is a planned provocation" by Turkey.

But even that was tame compared to what Lavrov said to his Turkish counterparty Mevlut Cavusoglu earlier today during a phone call between the two (Lavrov who was supposed to travel to Turkey has since canceled such plans).

As Sputnik transcribes, according to a press release from Russia’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Lavrov pointed out that, "by shooting down a Russian plane on a counter-terrorist mission of the Russian Aerospace Force in Syria, and one that did not violate Turkey’s airspace, the Turkish government has in effect sided with ISIS."

It was in this context when Lavrov added that "Turkey’s actions appear premeditated, planned, and undertaken with a specific objective."

More importantly, Lavrov pointed to Turkey’s role in the propping up the terror network through the oil trade. Per the Russian statement:

"The Russian Minister reminded his counterpart about Turkey’s involvement in the ISIS’ illegal trade in oil, which is transported via the area where the Russian plane was shot down, and about the terrorist infrastructure, arms and munitions depots and control centers that are also located there."
Others reaffirmed Lavrov's stance, such as retired French General Dominique Trinquand, who said that "Turkey is either not fighting ISIL at all or very little, and does not interfere with different types of smuggling that takes place on its border, be it oil, phosphate, cotton or people," he said.

The reason we find this line of questioning fascinating is that just last week in the aftermath of the French terror attack but long before the Turkish downing of the Russian jet, we wrote about "The Most Important Question About ISIS That Nobody Is Asking" in which we asked who is the one "breaching every known law of funding terrorism when buying ISIS crude, almost certainly with the tacit approval by various "western alliance" governments, and why is it that these governments have allowed said middleman to continue funding ISIS for as long as it has?"

Precisely one week later, in even more tragic circumstances, suddenly everyone is asking this question.

And while we patiently dig to find who the on and offshore "commodity trading" middleman are, who cart away ISIS oil to European and other international markets in exchange for hundreds of millions of dollars, one name keeps popping up as the primary culprit of regional demand for the Islamic State's "terrorist oil" - that of Turkish president Recep Erdogan's son: Bilal Erdogan.

His very brief bio:

Necmettin Bilal Erdogan, commonly known as Bilal Erdogan (born 23 April 1980) is the third child of Recep Tayyip Erdo?an, the current President of Turkey.

After graduating from Kartal Imam Hatip High School in 1999, Bilal Erdogan moved to the US for undergraduate education. He also earned a Masters Degree in John F. Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University in 2004. After graduation, he served in the World Bank as intern for a while. He returned Turkey in 2006 and started to his business life. Bilal Erdogan is one of the three equal shareholders of "BMZ Group Denizcilik ", a marine transportation corporation.
Here is a recent picture of Bilal, shown in a photo from a Turkish 2014 article, which "asked why his ships are now in Syria":



In the next few days, we will present a full breakdown of Bilal's various business ventures, starting with his BMZ Group which is the name implicated most often in the smuggling of illegal Iraqi and Islamic State through to the western supply chain, but for now here is a brief, if very disturbing snapshot, of both father and son Erdogan by F. William Engdahl, one which should make everyone ask whether the son of Turkey's president (and thus, the father) is the silent mastermind who has been responsible for converting millions of barrels of Syrian Oil into hundreds of millions of dollars of Islamic State revenue.

By F. William Engdahl, posted originally in New Eastern Outlook:

Hmmn

The heart of man is desperately wicked.
See how innocent he looks

[img]http://theinternationalreporter.files./2015/06/erdoganveteranstodaytimthumb.jpg?w=702&h=400&crop=1[/img]

[size=18pt]Erdogan’s Dirty Dangerous ISIS Games[/size]
Turkey is a beautiful land, rich in resources, with many highly intelligent and warm people. It also happens to have a President who seems intent on destroying his once-proud nation. More and more details are coming to light revealing that the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, variously known as ISIS, IS or Daesh, is being fed and kept alive by Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, the Turkish President and by his Turkish intelligence service, including MIT, the Turkish CIA. Turkey, as a result of Erdoğan’s pursuit of what some call a Neo-Ottoman Empire fantasies that stretch all the way to China, Syria and Iraq, threatens not only to destroy Turkey but much of the Middle East if he continues on his present path


by F. William Engdahl, NEO:

In October 2014 US Vice President Joe Biden told a Harvard gathering that Erdoğan’s regime was backing ISIS with “hundreds of millions of dollars and thousands of tons of weapons…” Biden later apologized clearly for tactical reasons to get Erdoğan’s permission to use Turkey’s Incirlik Air Base for airstrikes against ISIS in Syria, but the dimensions of Erdoğan’s backing for ISIS since revealed is far, far more than Biden hinted.

ISIS militants were trained by US, Israeli and now it emerges, by Turkish special forces at secret bases in Konya Province inside the Turkish border to Syria, over the past three years. Erdoğan’s involvement in ISIS goes much deeper. At a time when Washington, Saudi Arabia and even Qatar appear to have cut off their support for ISIS, they remaining amazingly durable. The reason appears to be the scale of the backing from Erdoğan and his fellow neo-Ottoman Sunni Islam Prime Minister, Ahmet Davutoğlu.

Nice Family Business

The prime source of money feeding ISIS these days is sale of Iraqi oil from the Mosul region oilfields where they maintain a stronghold. The son of Erdoğan it seems is the man who makes the export sales of ISIS-controlled oil possible.

Bilal Erdoğan owns several maritime companies. He has allegedly signed contracts with European operating companies to carry Iraqi stolen oil to different Asian countries. The Turkish government buys Iraqi plundered oil which is being produced from the Iraqi seized oil wells. Bilal Erdoğan’s maritime companies own special wharfs in Beirut and Ceyhan ports that are transporting ISIS’ smuggled crude oil in Japan-bound oil tankers.

Gürsel Tekin vice-president of the Turkish Republican Peoples’ Party, CHP, declared in a recent Turkish media interview, “President Erdoğan claims that according to international transportation conventions there is no legal infraction concerning Bilal’s illicit activities and his son is doing an ordinary business with the registered Japanese companies, but in fact Bilal Erdoğan is up to his neck in complicity with terrorism, but as long as his father holds office he will be immune from any judicial prosecution.” Tekin adds that Bilal’s maritime company doing the oil trades for ISIS, BMZ Ltd, is “a family business and president Erdoğan’s close relatives hold shares in BMZ and they misused public funds and took illicit loans from Turkish banks.”

In addition to son Bilal’s illegal and lucrative oil trading for ISIS, Sümeyye Erdoğan, the daughter of the Turkish President apparently runs a secret hospital camp inside Turkey just over the Syrian border where Turkish army trucks daily being in scores of wounded ISIS Jihadists to be patched up and sent back to wage the bloody Jihad in Syria, according to the testimony of a nurse who was recruited to work there until it was discovered she was a member of the Alawite branch of Islam, the same as Syrian President Bashar al-Assad who Erdoğan seems hell-bent on toppling.

Turkish citizen Ramazan Başol, captured this month by Kurdish People’s Defence Units,YPG, as he attempted to join ISIS from Konya province, told his captors that said he was sent to ISIS by the ‘İsmail Ağa Sect,’ a strict Turkish Islam sect reported to be tied to Recep Erdoğan. Başol said the sect recruits members and provides logistic support to the radical Islamist organization. He added that the Sect gives jihad training in neighborhoods of Konya and sends those trained here to join ISIS gangs in Syria.

According to French geopolitical analyst, Thierry Meyssan, Recep Erdoğan “organised the pillage of Syria, dismantled all the factories in Aleppo, the economic capital, and stole the machine-tools. Similarly, he organised the theft of archeological treasures and set up an international market in Antioch…with the help of General Benoît Puga, Chief of Staff for the Elysée, he organised a false-flag operation intended to provoke the launching of a war by the Atlantic Alliance – the chemical bombing of la Ghoutta in Damascus, in August 2013. “

Meyssan claims that the Syria strategy of Erdoğan was initially secretly developed in coordination with former French Foreign Minister Alain Juppé and Erdoğan’s then Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu, in 2011, after Juppe won a hesitant Erdoğan to the idea of supporting the attack on traditional Turkish ally Syria in return for a promise of French support for Turkish membership in the EU. France later backed out, leaving Erdoğan to continue the Syrian bloodbath largely on his own using ISIS.

Gen. John R. Allen, an opponent of Obama’s Iran peace strategy, now US diplomatic envoy coordinating the coalition against the Islamic State, exceeded his authorized role after meeting with Erdoğan and “promised to create a « no-fly zone » ninety miles wide, over Syrian territory, along the whole border with Turkey, supposedly intended to help Syrian refugees fleeing from their government, but in reality to apply the « Juppé-Wright plan ». The Turkish Prime Minister, Ahmet Davutoğlu, revealed US support for the project on the TV channel A Haber by launching a bombing raid against the PKK.” Meyssan adds.

There are never winners in war and Erdoğan’s war against Syria’s Assad demonstrates that in bold. Turkey and the world deserve better. Ahmet Davutoğlu’s famous “Zero Problems With Neighbors” foreign policy has been turned into massive problems with all neighbors due to the foolish ambitions of Erdoğan and his gang.

F. William Engdahl is strategic risk consultant and lecturer, he holds a degree in politics from Princeton University and is a best-selling author on oil and geopolitics, exclusively for the online magazine “New Eastern Outlook”.

[size=18pt]Turkish President’s daughter heads a covert medical corps to help ISIS injured members, reveals a disgruntled nurse[/size]
Top News 15 July 2015

Sümeyye Erdoğan



A discontented nurse working clandestinely for a covert medical corps in Şanlıurfa—a city in south-eastern Turkey, close to the border with neighboring Syria— divulges information about the alleged role which Sümeyye Erdoğan plays in providing extended medical care for ISIS wounded militants transferred to Turkish hospitals. Living in a dilapidated apartment in Istanbul’s outskirts along with her two children, a 34-year- old emaciated nurse who spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear of retribution, disclosed her seven-week agonizing ordeal of working in secret military hospital in Şanlıurfa, 150 km (93 miles) east of Gaziantep and 1,300 km (808 miles) southeast of Istanbul. “Almost every day several khaki Turkish military trucks were bringing scores of severely injured, shaggy ISIS rebels to our secret hospital and we had to prepare the operating rooms and help doctors in the following procedures. I was given a generous salary of $ 7,500 but they were unaware of my religion. The fact is that I adhere to Alawite faith and since Erdoğan took the helm of the country the system shows utter contempt for Alawite minority – Alawite faith is an esoteric offshoot of Shia Islam,” Said the nurse, recoiling in horror from the thought of imminent persecution by Turkish much-vaunted secret police, known by its acronym MİT. Since the eruption of al-Qaeda inspired rebellion in Syria aiming to topple the secular President Bashar al-Assad, the Turkish government spearheaded efforts to transfer all possible mercenaries as far as Chinese Turkestan to newly converted Wahhabis in Buenos Aires– Wahhabism adopts an extremist interpretation of Islam and is the official religion of Saudi Arabia –, albeit, the Turkish government always rejects all allegations concerning its mischievous role in Syria’s 4-year civil war.













Turkish public opinion in the past three months became increasingly critical of President Erdoğan’s warlike policy in the volatile Middle-East and his popularity rate slumped to a record low of %15. Once praised of being a nationalist and secular politician, Erdoğan’s has been marred by his ever more pro-Jihad rhetoric. They had no confidence in Alawites, added the nurse weeping bitterly, no sooner did they become cognizant of my faith than the wave of intimidation began, for I knew many things as who was running the corps, I saw Sümeyye Erdoğan frequently at our headquarter in Şanlıurfa … I am indeed terrified , I rue the day I enrolled in that program. A London-educated scion of wealthy family and the eldest daughter of totalitarian President Erdoğan, Sümeyye Erdoğan , for more than once announced her intention to be dispatched to Mousl , Iraq’s once second-biggest city and Islamic State’s stronghold to do relief works as a volunteer which drew public ire and vast condemnation from Turkey’s opposition parties. Moreover, the Turkish opposition parties accuse the administration of Recep Tayyip Erdoğan of seeking diligently to hide the truth concerning numerous financial malfeasances Mr. Erdoğan son, Bilal Erdoğan, is involved.




Bilal Erdoğan



Mr. Erdoğan who always sheds crocodile tears for the plight of Syrian trapped between the hammer of hunger and the anvil of ISIS' extremism, conceals the fact that his own son, Bilal Erdoğan, is involved in lucrative business of smuggling the Iraqi and Syrian plundered oil. Bilal Erdoğan who owns several maritime companies, had allegedly signed contracts with European operating companies to carry Iraqi stolen oil to different Asian countries. Turkish government unwittingly supports ISIS by buying Iraqi plundered oil which is being produced from the Iraqi sized oil wells. Bilal Erdoğan’s maritime companies own special wharfs in Beirut and Ceyhan ports transporting ISIS’ smuggled crude oil in Japan-bound oil tankers. The Turkish opposition parties also accuse the belicose President Erdoğan of desperately trying to whitewash inordinate number of scandals concerning Bilal’s involvement in transporting Iraqi oil and thus making ISIS the wealthiest global terrorist group. “President Erdoğan claims that according to international transportation conventions there is no legal infraction concerning Bilal’s illicit activities and his son is doing an ordinary business with the registered Japanese companies, but in fact Bilal Erdoğan is up to his necks in complicity with terrorism, but as long as his father holds office he will be immune from any judicial prosecution,” Gürsel Tekin ,a senior CHP party official said in Ankara on Tuesday. The leading CHP official further underscored that Bilal Erdoğan’s maritime company, BMZ Ltd, is considered a family business and president Erdoğan’s close relatives hold shares in BMZ and they misused public funds and took illicit loans from Turkish banks. Weak, dependent, lugubrious though defiant; the Turkish nurse pleaded for Turkish judiciary help, imploring the last bastion of freedom, Turkish Army, to overthrow Erdoğan’s corrupt regime.

Turkmen or Turk man?
Militant who boasts he killed Russian pilot appears to be son of Turkish mayor, according to Turkish media


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZpbz2OpCMo

Hmmmmm.

The brainwashing has begun,it seems Russia has implanted some nano bugs transferable to human brains through their phone screens.

Why is Russia now trying to desperately damage Turkish image,a weak attempt at taking a swipe at Turkey.They knew all this for a while and mudaffucckinng dollop heads kept quiet about it all these time.

Russia needs to learn more on how international diplomacy works cause they are simply acting like a pained kindergarten girl whose sweet was taken from her.

So far,Turkey looks unflinching in these events while Russia keeps ranting like a bitcchh.

We can see how well the downing of the Su-24 has damaged their power projection cause their jets have not conducted sorties since the downing,they have now forgotten the enemy at hand(ISIS),now they move to create a new one.

Someone tell this chess players in Russia that at times,taking out the Queen/King is not the end game,it is destabilizing battle ranks that matters

ValerianSteel:
The brainwashing has begun,it seems Russia has implanted some nano bugs transferable to human brains through their phone screens.

Why is Russia now trying to desperately damage Turkish image,a weak attempt at taking a swipe at Turkey.They knew all this for a while and mudaffucckinng dollop heads kept quiet about it all these time.

Russia needs to learn more on how international diplomacy works cause they are simply acting like a pained kindergarten girl whose sweet was taken from her.

So far,Turkey looks unflinching in these events while Russia keeps ranting like a bitcchh.

We can see how well the downing of the Su-24 has damaged their power projection cause their jets have not conducted sorties since the downing,they have now forgotten the enemy at hand(ISIS),now they move to create a new one.

Someone tell this chess players in Russia that at times,taking out the Queen/King is not the end game,it is destabilizing battle ranks that matters

Lol!

Please also add Joe Biden to the list of brainwashed people.

"Here is the moment Joe Biden (whom I believe suffers from flashes of senility) even lashed out at Turkey and the UAE for sponsoring ISIS as reported by CNN itself...

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/10/05/politics/isis-biden-erdogan-apology/

Vice President Joe Biden apologizes to Turkey, UAE"

From Michael Yon:

"Turkey's president warns Russia not to 'play with fire'"

Relations between Turkey and Russia are worsening day by day. Turkey is a NATO member and as such NATO members such as the United States are obligated to defend Turkey if Turkey is attacked.

Yet now we see Turkey dragging NATO into possible war with Russia. We should make it clear with Turkey that if Turkey unilaterally starts a war with Russia, we are not their big brother waiting to back them up while they provoke a fight.

Turkey appears to have ambushed the Russian airplane. After the crew ejected, Turkey's Turkmen pals shot at the helpless Russians as they floated down under parachutes, killing one pilot.

Many of us also remember that Turkey stabbed us in the back during the Iraq war. We have long memories after getting stabbed in the back.

Erdogan is a religious fanatic. Make him fight his own battles.

http://www.news24.com/World/News/turkeys-president-warns-russia-not-to-play-with-fire-20151128

MissSlimbody:
The heart of man is desperately wicked.
See how innocent he looks

Na so criminer face dey look.

ValerianSteel:
The brainwashing has begun,it seems Russia has implanted some nano bugs transferable to human brains through their phone screens.

Why is Russia now trying to desperately damage Turkish image,a weak attempt at taking a swipe at Turkey.They knew all this for a while and mudaffucckinng dollop heads kept quiet about it all these time.

Russia needs to learn more on how international diplomacy works cause they are simply acting like a pained kindergarten girl whose sweet was taken from her.

So far,Turkey looks unflinching in these events while Russia keeps ranting like a bitcchh.

We can see how well the downing of the Su-24 has damaged their power projection cause their jets have not conducted sorties since the downing,they have now forgotten the enemy at hand(ISIS),now they move to create a new one.

Someone tell this chess players in Russia that at times,taking out the Queen/King is not the end game,it is destabilizing battle ranks that matters

Lol

Russia is the only country in the world for over a century that sets her foreign policy and diplomacy based on emotions and not reality. That is what eventually crashed both the soviet and russian empires.

The bully is now acting like a little girl and their propaganda arm is working overtime

jacabi:

Na so criminal face dey look.

So,make no dey trust innocent face again

MissSlimbody:


So,make no dey trust innocent face again

Not all though, but never trust anyone because he/she looks innocent, in fact, not even for being called innocent.

This was [size=14pt]2014[/size]:

It appears that even US Vice President Joe Biden and CNN and BBC have been working for the Russian propaganda since then!

Damn, Putin is bad-ass, damn!

Missy89:



Lol

Russia is the only country in the world for over a century that sets her foreign policy and diplomacy based on emotions and not reality. That is what eventually crashed both the soviet and russian empires.

The bully is now acting like a little girl and their propaganda arm is working overtime

Big girl, to have your narrative eroded and your game plan exposed hurts don't it? Lashing out like Erdogan are you, huh?
Now we are seeing the use of a new slur, "little girl" to describe Russia which is funny cos when that phrase little girl is mentioned I can only think of stuttering and bungling nincompoops such as Marie Harf, Jen Psaki then and John Kirby & Elizabeth Trudeau now, spokespersons of the US State Department, America's frontline diplomatic unit.

In case some of y'all haven't seen it yet, allow me to share some clips of these unemotional American big girls getting all worked up and irritated when asked simple questions:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9xkyfv3oGk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQRvINebeok

Enjoy!

From Anthony Cartalucci:

BIG WARNING: US Tells Turkey to secure 100 km section of border ISIS has been crossing over into Syria from... is it cover for impending invasion?

Seems like a great idea at first, and what we've been talking about all along ... only remember ... the US saying this is an ADMISSION that ALL ALONG Turkey has been arming, funding, and harboring ISIS with the summation of ISIS' fighting capacity having first arrived in, staged, and passed through Turkish territory before INVADING Syria.

Also remember the US has had troops in Turkey, and the CIA as well as special forces along the border ISIS has been passing over since the beginning of this conflict meaning America played a direct role in supporting ISIS as well.

Now here is where it gets really dangerous. To secure this remaining ISIS supply corridor, Turkey will need to mobilize tens of thousands of troops near the Turkish-Syrian border - which is also the same thing you would do to prepare for AN INVASION.

The US has been desperately trying to justify crossing over into Syria and establishing a "safe zone" for its terrorist proxies in Syrian territory since at least as early as 2012.

US' recent announcement must be accompanied by a Russian-Iranian-Syrian-Iraqi and even Chinese commitment to place a sizable peacekeeping force along the border in Syrian territory to ensure the border is sealed from not only ISIS, but its Turkish collaborators as well...

https://www.rt.com/news/323825-us-turkey-syrian-border/

NairaMinted:


Big girl, to have your narrative eroded and your game plan exposed hurts don't it? Lashing out like Erdogan are you, huh?
Now we are seeing the use of a new slur, "little girl" to describe Russia which is funny cos when that phrase little girl is mentioned I can only think of stuttering and bungling nincompoops such as Marie Harf, Jen Psaki then and John Kirby & Elizabeth Trudeau now, spokespersons of the US State Department, America's frontline diplomatic unit.

In case some of y'all haven't seen it yet, allow me to share some clips of these unemotional American big girls getting all worked up and irritated when asked simple questions:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9xkyfv3oGk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQRvINebeok

Enjoy!

Lol.

The topic is about turkey and russia. Stick to that.
You can open a new thread for your latest paski or harf video.

Missy89:


Lol.

The topic is about turkey and russia. Stick to that.
You can open a new thread for your latest paski or harf video.

Missy89: "Russia is the only country in the world for over a century that sets her foreign policy and diplomacy based on emotions and not reality. That is what eventually crashed both the soviet and russian empires."

Eehya! Those clips are too embarrassing for you right?
Well, if you wished to stick to the topic you shouldn't have gone a hundred years deep in small girl Russian diplomacy.
But since you did, I had to share a bit of big girl American diplomacy.
Lol! I am enjoying this.

Missy89:



Lol

Russia is the only country in the world for over a century that sets her foreign policy and diplomacy based on emotions and not reality. That is what eventually crashed both the soviet and russian empires.

The bully is now acting like a little girl and their propaganda arm is working overtime

Am just like if you are so powerful why the political bitchhing up and down

NairaMinted:



Missy89: "Russia is the only country in the world for over a century that sets her foreign policy and diplomacy based on emotions and not reality. That is what eventually crashed both the soviet and russian empires."

Eehya! Those clips are too embarrassing for you right?
Well, if you wished to stick to the topic you shouldn't have gone a hundred years deep in small girl Russian diplomacy.
But since you did, I had to share a bit of big girl American diplomacy.
Lol! I am enjoying this.

The statement is a fact.

Spokespersons are not diplomats. They are mouth pieces so I don't see your point. But fell free to post what you want.

Missy89:


The statement is a fact.

Spokespersons are not diplomats. They are mouth pieces so I don't see your point. But fell free to post what you want.

I don't get your vacillating though. Whose side are you on sef?

NairaMinted:
I don't get your vacillating though. Whose side are you on sef?

Lol, digging thru my post I see.

Well, unlike you I am not on anyone's side since one is no different from the other. Supporting an action is different from supporting a country.

That is the difference between us since you see one side as evil and the other one as a saint. Great powers have always been evil. no exceptions

MissSlimbody:
The heart of man is desperately wicked.
See how innocent he looks

Yeah. Shakespear said it that, the intent of a man's heart can not be ascertained by the expression on his face.

ValerianSteel:


We can see how well the downing of the Su-24 has damaged their power projection cause their jets have not conducted sorties since the downing,they have now forgotten the enemy at hand(ISIS),now they move to create a new one.

please don't be false to buttress your point. The Russian response is already taking shape. Since on wednesday, the Turkmen area where the pilot was killed, has been recieving heavy bombardment from Russian planes, including some trucks loads of militants and equipments crossing over from the border side of Turkey, were all destroyed.
Again, the deployment of advance air defense systems into Syria now, is bad news for Turkey that can no longer get free entrance into the Syria air space to help their Isis brothers , cos it would be suicide for them.

But there is nothing to share to in all this
because, now that Russia is sending some of it's advance tools to Syria, with France already on ground, UK soon to join, and others already there, things could get ugly if you consider the issue of possible unintended consequences among the key players, bringing us to the realization of Alois Irlmaier's prophecy. Each time i consider this and matched it to the events in Syria while watching the East, i can't help confessing my sins to God.
Take a look:


http://www.messagetoeagle.com/alois-irlmaiers-scary-prophecy-about-world-war-iii/

shite is coming...

The facade will fall off slowly but surely...

Syrian Turkmen commander who 'killed' Russian pilot turns out to be Turkish ultranationalist

© RT / DHA
A Syrian rebel commander who boasted of killing a Russian pilot after Turkey downed Russian jet on Tuesday appeared to be Turkish ultranationalist and a son of former mayor in one of Turkish provinces.
Alparslan Celik, deputy commander of a Syrian Turkmen brigade turned out to be the son of a mayor of a Keban municipality in Turkey’s Elazig province.

He also turned out to be the member of The Grey Wolves ultranationalist group, members of which have carried out scores of political murders since 1970s.



Celik came under spotlight after he announced that as the two Russian pilots descended by parachute after the Su-24 jet was downed by Turkish military, both were shot dead by Turkmen forces on Tuesday.

A graphic video posted earlier on social media purported to show a Russian pilot lying on the ground surrounded by a group of armed militants.

For more watch RT's William Whiteman’s report.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymKnnMJjtFA

Sultan Erdogan doing all within his powers to keep his ISIS babies fed.....


Turkish officers arrested for ‘treason’ after intercepting weapons destined for Syria
Published time: 30 Nov, 2015 02:06
Edited time: 30 Nov, 2015 04:05
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Demonstrators shout slogans during a protest outside the headquarters of Cumhuriyet newspaper whose editor-in-chief Can Dundar was arrested on charges of espionage and terrorist propaganda, in Istanbul, Turkey, November 29, 2015. © Osman Orsal / Reuters

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Three Turkish officers, involved in the inspection of an intelligence agency’s weapons-filled trucks, allegedly destined for Syrian terror groups, have been arrested on treason and espionage charges. Meanwhile journalists who broke the news face similar charges.
On Saturday, police detained Ankara Gendarmerie Regional Commander Major General Ibrahim Aydin, former Adana Gendarmerie Regional Commander Brigadier General Hamza Celepoglu and former Gendarmerie Criminal Laboratory Head Colonel Burhanettin Cihangiroglu. An Istanbul court ruled in favor of their arrest shortly after midnight, in the early hours of Monday morning, according to local media.

READ MORE: ‘Oxygen for jihadists’: ISIS-smuggled oil flows through Turkey to intl markets – Iraqi MP

Security officials are facing “spying” charges over an incident in January 2014, when Gendarmerie intercepted trucks belonging to Turkey’s National Intelligence Organization (MIT).

An inspection of the trucks exposed large quantities of munitions being transported to Syria. After opening a metal container bearing a ‘FRAGILE’ mark, the inspectors found munitions hidden in crates under boxes of medicine.

The information caught public attention in May 2015, when the website of the Cumhuriyet media outlet posted footage of MIT trucks being inspected by security officers. The paper reported that altogether, in that particular run, MIT trucks had been carrying over 80,000 rounds of ammunition of different calibers, some 1,000 mortar shells and hundreds of munitions for grenade launchers.

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© Murad SezerTurkish newspaper editor in court for 'espionage' after revealing weapon convoy to Syrian militants
The arrests of Gendarmerie officers comes shortly after a court in Istanbul demanded the arrest of two Cumhuriyet journalists for exposing contacts between Turkish intelligence and Syrian terror groups.

On Thursday a Turkish prosecutor requested the arrest of the editor-in-chief of Cumhuriyet newspaper, Can Dundar, and Cumhuriyet’s representative in Ankara, Erdem Gul, charging them with espionage and treason over a report published back in May that revealed that Turkish weapons were being transferred to Syria by Turkey’s intelligence agency. The journalists are now facing up to 45 years in prison.

Those who sent the convoy from Turkey knew that the weapons were “heading to end [up] in ISIS hands,” one of the Cumhuriyet journalists told RT.

Turkish officials made contradictory statements after the paper first blew the whistle, initially saying that the arms then denying the delivery altogether, and then saying the “aid was destined for the Turkmen.”


According to Damascus, Ankara has increased weapon, ammunition and equipment shipments to the terrorist groups operating in Syria in exchange for oil and antiquities looted by Islamic State terrorists.

“Turkey helps terrorists due to ideological reasons, thinking that these terrorist groups are successors to the Ottoman Empire,” said Syrian Foreign Minister Walid Muallem while visiting Moscow. “Turkey provides terrorists with weapons, logistical support, medical care and even shelter.”

Appleyard:

please don't be false to buttress your point. The Russian response is already taking shape. Since on wednesday, the Turkmen area where the pilot was killed, has been recieving heavy bombardment from Russian planes, including some trucks loads of militants and equipments crossing over from the border side of Turkey, were all destroyed.
Again, the deployment of advance air defense systems into Syria now, is bad news for Turkey that can no longer get free entrance into the Syria air space to help their Isis brothers , cos it would be suicide for them.

But there is nothing to share to in all this
because, now that Russia is sending some of it's advance tools to Syria, with France already on ground, UK soon to join, and others already there, things could get ugly if you consider the issue of possible unintended consequences among the key players, bringing us to the realization of Alois Irlmaier's prophecy. Each time i consider this and matched it to the events in Syria while watching the East, i can't help confessing my sins to God.
Take a look:


http://www.messagetoeagle.com/alois-irlmaiers-scary-prophecy-about-world-war-iii/

shite is coming...

Interesting I must say!

[size=18pt]2 Turkish journalists charged with espionage, aiding terrorist organization[/size]
By Zeynep Bilginsoy, CNN
Updated 0033 GMT (0833 HKT) November 28, 2015

Can Dundar, right, editor-in-chief of Turkish opposition newspaper Cumhuriyet, and Erdem Gul on Thursday.
Story highlights
Charges involve a video the journalists said showed Turkish arms bound for ISIS
International groups rate Turkey poorly in terms of press freedom
President: '"The person who published this story ... will, I believe, pay a high price for this"
Istanbul (CNN) Two prominent Turkish journalists have been arrested on charges of espionage and aiding an armed terrorist organization, according to a news report.

Can Dundar, editor-in-chief of Turkish daily newspaper Cumhuriyet, and Erdem Gul, the newspaper's Ankara bureau chief, were arrested Thursday night after three hours of questioning at an Istanbul court, according to Turkey's semiofficial Anadolu Agency.

The two journalists have been charged with obtaining and revealing confidential state security information for political or military espionage, and with willfully aiding an armed terrorist organization, the news agency reported.

A Turkish government official, reached by CNN for comment, had little to say.

"This is a judicial process, and we are following it," said the official, who declined to be identified either by name or department.

Group: Turkey 149th in terms of press freedom

Turkey is said by international organizations to have a poor record on press freedom. Reporters Without Borders rates the country 149th of 180 countries in its 2015 Press Freedom Index.

And in 2013, the Committee to Protect Journalists said more journalists were in prison in Turkey -- 40 -- than in any other country. The number has since dropped to fewer than 10.

"We have been arrested," Dundar tweeted at 11 p.m. Thursday.


Videos of the arrest were shared on Periscope.

In a video before the pair's arrest, Dundar said they were defending freedom of press and "the right of the people to get information."

But Hadi Salihoglu, the Istanbul public prosecutor, disagreed.

"This investigation has nothing to do with 'freedom of press,' which is guaranteed under the constitution and there were no violations of people's rights and freedoms," Salihoglu said, Anadolu Agency reported.

A pro-opposition newspaper

In June, Cumhuriyet published leaked video footage that purported to show the county's intelligence agency sending weapons to Syria.

Cumhuriyet is a secularist and pro-opposition newspaper that has been in circulation since 1924.

Police patrol outside the Ankara offices of Cumhuriyet in January.
Police patrol outside the Ankara offices of Cumhuriyet in January.
The video showed men in police uniforms and civilian clothing unscrewing bolts to open the cargo area of the trucks, and unpacking boxes of what look like medicine. Later images show trucks full of mortar rounds.

Cumhuriyet reported that the weapons were being delivered to Syria by Turkey's National Intelligence Agency.

"The weapons were most likely headed to ISIS, infamous globally for its brutality," Dundar told CNN.

CNN cannot independently confirm the authenticity of the video.

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan responded swiftly to the leak.

"The person who published this story as an exclusive story will, I believe, pay a high price for this," Erdogan said on state broadcaster TRT. "I will not leave him be."

An investigation of Dundar and Gul was launched for "treason and revealing state secrets," and it led to the men's arrest Thursday.

The video footage was removed from websites. Sites that did not comply with a court order to remove it were blocked on the basis of national interest and national security.

Erdogan: It was aid for Syrian Turkmens, 'our kin'

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President Recep Tayyip Erdogan says aid was going to Turkmen in Syria.
The Turkish President and Prime Minister have repeatedly said the aid was going to Turkmen groups in Syria.

Those Turkmen groups have been a central aspect of the recent conflict between Turkey and Russia.

Turkey says Russia is targeting moderate Syrian opposition groups, including Turkmens, in its aerial bombardment in Syria. Russia, though, has said it is targeting ISIS.

Erdogan told CNN that Turkey would continue providing humanitarian aid to the Turkmens, who are, he said, "our kin."

Erdogan denies Turkey sending arms to Syria

'Journalists cannot be spies'
Tayfun Atay, a colleague at Cumhuriyet and longtime friend of Dundar's, told CNN that the current political climate punishes opposition journalists.

Dundar and Gul "did not give in," Atay said.

"Journalists cannot be spies because journalists do not hide but reveal information for the good of the public," he said. "I am proud of them."

Mehmet Yilmaz, columnist at daily Hurriyet newspaper, was also critical.

"The arrests show that there is no freedom of expression in Turkey," Yilmaz said.

Reporters Without Borders recognized Cumhuriyet in its Reporters Without Borders Prize for Press Freedom on November 17.

The journalists face life in prison if convicted.

CNN's Isil Sariyuce in Istanbul and Don Melvin in London contributed to this report

The plot thickens......

Erdogan Shot Down By Army Chief for Commenting on Downed Russian Bomber

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Reports are emerging that the Turkish president is now at odds with his army's joint chief of staff after remarking that Ankara did not know that the warplane was Russian when targeting it; “had the politicians kept quiet, we could have resolved the problem very fast,” the Turkish media quotes an informed military source as saying.


The crisis that started by Turkey's shooting down of the Russian Su-24 bomber in the Syrian airspace has apparently led to a standoff between President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and the country's army, according to Turkish media reports.
The main reason for the discord was the comment of the Turkish president, which came in the aftermath of the attack, claiming that Ankara did not know the warplane was Russian when targeting it.

According to the Turkish-language daily, Sözcü, Erdogan and the Turkish army's joint chief of staff are now at odds over the attack and the following comments.


The Turkish paper quotes an informed military source as saying that Erdogan had taken a "hasty" position and declared that the army had been unable to identify the nationality of the plane in official remarks, "and this complicated the problem".
"Had the politicians kept quiet, we could have resolved the problem very fast," the newspaper quotes an unnamed military source as saying.

According to the source, the Turkish Air Force has warned its pilots to avoid any further violation of the Syrian airspace after Russia deployed its S-400 anti-aircraft missile system in Lattakia.



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