HiddenShadow:


I don't need to waste my time arguing with you

Keep deceiving yourselves instead of negotiating on how to win them back

Let me tell you one secret

Why Nigeria waste precious time harassing Kanu, his men are using Nigeria's blunder to mobilize more people on their side

By the time Nigeria shortchanged the Igbos and her allies , what happened in Indonesia will occur in Nigeria

By then, his movement will take the bull by the horn.

I don't need to talk too much but remember time is running out.

Dedetwo:



I know sure way is war.

HiddenShadow:



When Referendum takes place and most wants out, Nigeria has no choice but to accept.

If Nigeria refuses to accept , I will tell you what will happen if only mods like mynd won't ban me.

baralatie:

Let me ask a very simple!
Who created Ghana,Zambia,Liberia,sierra Leone,Togo,Rwanda, Tanzania,GabonEgypt,Algeria,cape Verde and Malaysia.
Who created China,south Kore,north Korea,
Who created the u.s.a
With all the multi ethnic nature of the black continent, was there any referendum to be split 3000 ethnic groups into 53 countries and give them names!
Look at south Africa,was there referendum from the Zulus and et al for Afrikaans to claim indigeneity

kayfra:


You have to lobby other regions represented in NASS to help amend the constitution.

Dedetwo:


Per the bolded, you in particular have harped all morning about what or what not is entrenched in 1999 Nigerian constitution. Are you this aloft?

baralatie:

Be careful of what you wish for!

baralatie:

Oooh!he wants the war option don't bug your head!

baralatie:

Fortunately,the constitution as at now was duly entered and the sovereign nation Nigerian was fully accepted by its representatives (both politically,socially and historically)

kayfra:


Anybody that has seen war will never opt for that option. It's an insane proposition to successful and not so successful people. I'll spare the details of war and just call this bragado.

Even war does not guarantee you a favorable result.

kayfra:


You have to lobby other regions represented in NASS to help amend the constitution.

Super1Star:


Ojukwu said more than that and we all know what the history says today.

Allies such as Gabon and Cote'd Ivoire? Right. Don't come back Foaming about how world powers defeated you again.

To before warned is to before harmed.

HiddenShadow:



Nobody will lobby with any region

Once UN referendum takes place its all over.


Negotiate now before it is too late

zendy:




Those countries have nothing to do with me same as they have nothing to do with you. We are talking about Nigeria here. The case here is that Nigeria was illegally created by Lugard and this act of fraud has to be reversed by giving the ethnic nationalities that make up Nigeria the opportunity to say what they want by way of referendum. You can go about saying you are a Nigerian just because Lord Lugard came from Europe to tell you so.

Super1Star:


Why doe the military set aside the constitution when they take over and they institute military constitution of Decree?

The constitution or Decree gives a legal backing to the people's activities.

You can say whatever you like about the constitution in the comfort of your room, the bottom line and the unfortunate part of it it is binding on you till tomorrow morning.

It is hard to seek a divorce when you have been legally binded, though you were minor and naive when the marriage solemnisation took place.

Dedetwo:


I am not quite sure of this bolded statement. Most soldiers for hire were war veterans.

Dedetwo:


Do you think today is 1967? The Eritrea continued to fight after being defeated many times by Ethiopia. Today, Eritrea is an independent nation. By the way, I have seen two wars already.

kayfra:


By now you should have learned there is no such thing as a UN referendum without war, carnage, massacre for years. In the case of the only one done, it took 30 years of war in Sudan. And war still is no guarantee for a UN referendum.

Read people!!!

zendy:



I know the truth is hard to accept but Nigerians like you should start accepting. It's is not Lord Lugards job to come to from Europe,proclaim you a 'Nigerian' and give you your country. If you want Nigeria, you must ask the indigenous people like the Igbos, Ijaws,Efiks etc who have lived on their lands for tnousands what they want via referendum. Just because Lord came to west Africa the other day, you now tell these indigenous people that they are now named after a River? I laugh in Igbo. Sorry but you have no country. What you have is a forced Union and no forced Union ever lasts long

HiddenShadow:


And you think Kanu has not set in motion such

Let me tell you his game plan

If Nigeria fails to treat Igbos well , all Igbos will accept his view to breakout forcefully

This will see lots of Igbos invest in his idea leading to a forceful breakout

That's why Nigeria should negotiate now that there is time before it is late

zendy:



The 'sovereinghty' you are talking about is illegal if it was stolen. Lord Lugard stole the sovereinghty of the indigenous people of a West Africa in other to create Nigeria and this renders the union of Nigeria and its constitution illegal. The only way to right this wrong is a referendum

baralatie:

Eritrea that citizens are running away from ba!

Super1Star:


USA is another example,of a forced union and it's over 200years old and it is still standing gidigba.

Sincerely I want the dissolution of the union. It is the hateful message of Kanu that makes us to be spitting the likes of you.

HiddenShadow:


And you think Kanu has not set in motion such

Let me tell you his game plan

If Nigeria fails to treat Igbos well , all Igbos will accept his view to breakout forcefully

This will see lots of Igbos invest in his idea leading to a forceful breakout



That's why Nigeria should negotiate now that there is time before it is late

baralatie:

As it stands !the whole Africa consists of 3000 ethnicities in 53 countries created by the same British colonialist.It has everything to do with you!
And the colonialist set up your country boundaries to form a knit boundaries country to country neighbours!
The funny thing is your great,great ancestors tried to fight them off,they carried stones,and the only cutlass and guns became a problem because the colonial masters were the ones selling the Dane guns for slaves.your ancestors tried witchcraft and it did not work,your ancestors went to shrines to beg their gods to kill these colonials that did not work.
Instead the ancestors were dying like chickens.
The next things virtually everybody became loyal and started signing treaties and that is has it all went down.
Nothing you can do about.at least they got tired and again called your representatitives,signed agreement again and you know independent!
So what is your problem?

Dedetwo:


How does it concern Ethiopia or Nigeria? Eritreans can decide to run away to faraway land yet Eritrea is a nation period.

zendy:




I'm an Igbo man. My ancestors never signed any document to become Nigerians, infact, we actually fought the British in the Ekumeku war and the Arochukwu war. Nobody signed anything to be Nigerians. Even the Kings of the Ijaws, the Ibibios and even Yorubas only signed treaties of trade and protection with the British. None of them ever gave up their sovereignty. If you want Nigeria, then that is fine, but you must not force anyone to be nigerian with you. That why a referendum must be conducted to undo the sacrilege commited by Lugard when he made us all Nigerians against our will

HiddenShadow:


Go back and study that era from a neutral military point of view

Super1Star:


USA is another example,of a forced union and it's over 200years old and it is still standing gidigba.

Sincerely I want the dissolution of the union. It is the hateful message of Kanu that makes us to be spitting the likes of you.

zendy:




I'm an Igbo man. My ancestors never signed any document to become Nigerians, infact, we actually fought the British in the Ekumeku war and the Arochukwu war. Nobody signed anything to be Nigerians. Even the Kings of the Ijaws, the Ibibios and even Yorubas only signed treaties of trade and protection with the British. None of them ever gave up their sovereignty. If you want Nigeria, then that is fine, but you must not force anyone to be nigerian with you. That why a referendum must be conducted to undo the sacrilege commited by Lugard when he made us all Nigerians against our will

kayfra:


Focus man. Separate what you think from reality/actuality.

Does UN and all the countries in the world reason with your opinion or see us as a sovereign country?

kayfra:


You are not reading the thread. Let's take all your forefathers rights etc, etc and etc and you indeed conduct referendum and win. How good is it if it can't be established legally without a constitutional amendment is the question. This is not a gragra thread.