personal59:
75 BIBLICAL REASONS WHY YOU SHOULD NOT
DRINK ALCOHOL
1) Genesis 9:20-26 - Noah became drunk; the
result was immorality and family trouble.
2) Genesis 19:30-38 - Lot was so drunk he did
not know what he was doing; this led to
immorality
3) Leviticus 10:9-11 - God commanded priests
not to drink so that they could tell the
difference between the holy and the unholy.
4) Numbers 6:3 - The Nazarites were told to eat
or drink nothing from the grape vine.
5) Deuteronomy 21:20 - A drunken son was
stubborn and rebellious.
6) Deuteronomy 29:5-6 - God gave no grape
juice to Israel nor did they have intoxicating
drink in the wilderness.
7) Deuteronomy 32:33 - Intoxicating wine is like
the poison of serpents, the cruel venom of
asps.
Judges 13:4, 7, 14 - Samson was to be a
Nazarite for life. His mother was told not to
drink wine or strong drink.
9) 1 Samuel 1:14-15 - Accused, Hannah said
she drank no wine.
10) 1 Samuel 25:32-38 - Nabal died after a
drunken spree.
11) 2 Samuel 11:13 - By getting Uriah drunk,
David hoped to cover his sin.
12) 2 Samuel 13:28-29 - Amnon was drunk
when he was killed.
13) 1 Kings 16:8-10 - The king was drinking
himself into drunkenness when he was
assassinated
14) 1 Kings 20:12-21 - Ben-Hadad and 32 other
kings were drinking when they were attacked
and defeated by the Israelites.
15) Esther 1:5-12 - The king gave each one all
the drink he wanted. The king was intoxicated
when he commanded the queen to come.
16) Psalm 75:8 - The Lord’s anger is pictured
as mixed wine poured out and drunk by the
wicked.
17) Proverbs 4:17 - Alcoholic drink is called the
wine of violence.
18) Proverbs 20:1 - Wine is a mocker, strong
drink is raging.
19) Proverbs 23:19-20 - A wise person will not
be among the drinkers of alcoholic beverages.
20) Proverbs 23:21 - Drunkenness causes
poverty.
21) Proverbs 23:29-30 - Drinking causes woe,
sorrow, fighting, babbling, wounds without
cause and red eyes.
22) Proverbs 23:31 - God instructs not to look
at intoxicating drinks.
23) Proverbs 23:32 - Alcoholic drinks bite like a
serpent, sting like an adder.
24) Proverbs 23:33 - Alcohol causes the drinker
to have strange and adulterous thoughts,
produces willfulness, and prevents reformation.
25) Proverbs 23:34 - Alcohol makes the drinker
unstable
26) Proverbs 23:35 - Alcohol makes the drinker
insensitive to pain so he does not perceive it as
a warning. Alcohol is habit forming.
27) Proverb 31:4-5 - Kings, Princes, and others
who rule and judge must not drink alcohol.
Alcohol perverts good judgment.
28) Proverbs 31:6-7 - Strong drink could be
given to those about to perish or those in pain.
Better anesthetics are available today.
29) Ecclesiastes 2:3 - The king tried everything,
including intoxicating drink, to see if it satisfied.
It did not. (Ecclesiastes 12:
30) Ecclesiastes 10:17 - A land is blessed when
its leaders do not drink.
31) Isaiah 5:11-12 - Woe to those who get up
early to drink and stay up late at night to get
drunk.
32) Isaiah 5:22 - Woe to "champion" drinkers
and "experts" at mixing drinks.
33) Isaiah 19:14 - Drunken men stagger in their
vomit.
34) Isaiah 22:12-13 - The Israelites choose to
drink; their future looks hopeless to them.
35) Isaiah 24:9 - Drinkers cannot escape the
consequences when God judges.
36) Isaiah 28:1 - God pronounces woe on the
drunkards of Ephraim.
37) Isaiah 28:3 - Proud drunkards shall be
trodden down.
38) Isaiah 28:7 - Priests and prophets stagger
and reel from beer and wine, err in vision, and
stumble in judgment.
39) Isaiah 28:8 - Drinkers’ tables are covered
with vomit and filth.
40) Isaiah 56:9-12 - Drinkers seek their own
gain and expect tomorrow to be just like today.
41) Jeremiah 35:2-14 - The Rechabites drank
no grape juice or intoxicating wine and were
blessed.
42) Ezekiel 44:21 - Again God instructed the
priests not to drink wine.
43) Daniel 1:5-17 - Daniel refused the king’s
intoxicating wine and was blessed for it along
with his abstaining friends.
44) Daniel 5:1 - Belshazzar, ruler of Babylon;
led his people in drinking.
45) Daniel 5:2-3 - The king, along with his
nobles, wives, and concubines, drank from the
goblets which had been taken from God’s
temple.
46) Daniel 5:4 - Drinking wine was combined
with praising false gods.
47) Daniel 5:23 - God sent word to Belshazzar
that punishment would be swift for the evil he
had committed.
48) Hosea 4:11 - Intoxicating wine takes away
intelligence.
49) Hosea 7:5 - God reproves princes for
drinking.
50) Joel 1:5 - Drunkards awake to see God’s
judgment.
51) Joel 3:3 - The enemy is judged for selling
girls for wine.
52) Amos 2:8 - Unrighteous acts of Israel
included the drinking of wine which had been
taken for the payment of fines.
53) Amos 2:12 - Israel is condemned for forcing
Nazarites to drink wine.
54) Micah 2:11 - Israelites are eager to follow
false teachers who prophesy plenty of
intoxicating drinks.
55) Nahum 1:10 - The drunkards of Nineveh will
be destroyed by God.
56) Habakkuk 2:5 - A man is betrayed by wine.
57) Habakkuk 2:15 - Woe to him that gives his
neighbor drink.
58) Habakkuk 2:16 - Drinking leads to shame.
59) Matthew 24:48-51 - A drinking servant is
unprepared for his Lord’s return.
60) Luke 1:15 - John the Baptist drank neither
grape juice nor wine.
61) Luke 12:45 - Christ warned against
drunkenness.
62) Luke 21:34 - Drunkenness will cause a
person not to be ready for the Lord’s return.
63) Romans 13:13 - Do not walk in
drunkenness or immorality.
64) Romans 14:21 - Do not do anything that
will hurt your testimony as a believer.
65) 1 Corinthians 5:11 - If a Christian brother is
a drinker, do not associate with him.
66) 1 Corinthians 6:10 - Drunkards will not
inherit the kingdom of God
67) Galatians 5:21 - Acts of the sinful nature,
such as drunkenness, will prohibit a person
from inheriting the kingdom of God.
68) Ephesians 5:18 - In contrast to being drunk
with wine, the believer is to be filled with the
Spirit.
69) 1 Thessalonians 5:6-7 - Christians are to be
alert and self-controlled, belonging to the day.
Drunkards belong to the night and darkness.
70) 1 Timothy 3:2-3 - Bishops (elders) are to be
temperate, sober, and not near any wine.
71) 1 Timothy 3:8 - Deacons are to be worthy
of respect and not drinkers.
72) 1 Timothy 3:11 - Deacons’ wives are to be
temperate and sober.
73) Titus 1:7-8 - An overseer is to be
disciplined.
74) Titus 2:2-3 - The older men and older
women of the church are to be temperate and
not addicted to wine.
75) 1 Peter 4:3-4 - The past life of drunkenness
and carousing has no place in the Christian’s
life.


And if u say Jesus turn water to wine abeg is it an alcoholic wine?

personal59:
75 BIBLICAL REASONS WHY YOU SHOULD NOT
DRINK ALCOHOL
1) Genesis 9:20-26 - Noah became drunk; the
result was immorality and family trouble.
2) Genesis 19:30-38 - Lot was so drunk he did
not know what he was doing; this led to
immorality
3) Leviticus 10:9-11 - God commanded priests
not to drink so that they could tell the
difference between the holy and the unholy.
4) Numbers 6:3 - The Nazarites were told to eat
or drink nothing from the grape vine.
5) Deuteronomy 21:20 - A drunken son was
stubborn and rebellious.
6) Deuteronomy 29:5-6 - God gave no grape
juice to Israel nor did they have intoxicating
drink in the wilderness.
7) Deuteronomy 32:33 - Intoxicating wine is like
the poison of serpents, the cruel venom of
asps.
Judges 13:4, 7, 14 - Samson was to be a
Nazarite for life. His mother was told not to
drink wine or strong drink.
9) 1 Samuel 1:14-15 - Accused, Hannah said
she drank no wine.
10) 1 Samuel 25:32-38 - Nabal died after a
drunken spree.
11) 2 Samuel 11:13 - By getting Uriah drunk,
David hoped to cover his sin.
12) 2 Samuel 13:28-29 - Amnon was drunk
when he was killed.
13) 1 Kings 16:8-10 - The king was drinking
himself into drunkenness when he was
assassinated
14) 1 Kings 20:12-21 - Ben-Hadad and 32 other
kings were drinking when they were attacked
and defeated by the Israelites.
15) Esther 1:5-12 - The king gave each one all
the drink he wanted. The king was intoxicated
when he commanded the queen to come.
16) Psalm 75:8 - The Lord’s anger is pictured
as mixed wine poured out and drunk by the
wicked.
17) Proverbs 4:17 - Alcoholic drink is called the
wine of violence.
18) Proverbs 20:1 - Wine is a mocker, strong
drink is raging.
19) Proverbs 23:19-20 - A wise person will not
be among the drinkers of alcoholic beverages.
20) Proverbs 23:21 - Drunkenness causes
poverty.
21) Proverbs 23:29-30 - Drinking causes woe,
sorrow, fighting, babbling, wounds without
cause and red eyes.
22) Proverbs 23:31 - God instructs not to look
at intoxicating drinks.
23) Proverbs 23:32 - Alcoholic drinks bite like a
serpent, sting like an adder.
24) Proverbs 23:33 - Alcohol causes the drinker
to have strange and adulterous thoughts,
produces willfulness, and prevents reformation.
25) Proverbs 23:34 - Alcohol makes the drinker
unstable
26) Proverbs 23:35 - Alcohol makes the drinker
insensitive to pain so he does not perceive it as
a warning. Alcohol is habit forming.
27) Proverb 31:4-5 - Kings, Princes, and others
who rule and judge must not drink alcohol.
Alcohol perverts good judgment.
28) Proverbs 31:6-7 - Strong drink could be
given to those about to perish or those in pain.
Better anesthetics are available today.
29) Ecclesiastes 2:3 - The king tried everything,
including intoxicating drink, to see if it satisfied.
It did not. (Ecclesiastes 12:
30) Ecclesiastes 10:17 - A land is blessed when
its leaders do not drink.
31) Isaiah 5:11-12 - Woe to those who get up
early to drink and stay up late at night to get
drunk.
32) Isaiah 5:22 - Woe to "champion" drinkers
and "experts" at mixing drinks.
33) Isaiah 19:14 - Drunken men stagger in their
vomit.
34) Isaiah 22:12-13 - The Israelites choose to
drink; their future looks hopeless to them.
35) Isaiah 24:9 - Drinkers cannot escape the
consequences when God judges.
36) Isaiah 28:1 - God pronounces woe on the
drunkards of Ephraim.
37) Isaiah 28:3 - Proud drunkards shall be
trodden down.
38) Isaiah 28:7 - Priests and prophets stagger
and reel from beer and wine, err in vision, and
stumble in judgment.
39) Isaiah 28:8 - Drinkers’ tables are covered
with vomit and filth.
40) Isaiah 56:9-12 - Drinkers seek their own
gain and expect tomorrow to be just like today.
41) Jeremiah 35:2-14 - The Rechabites drank
no grape juice or intoxicating wine and were
blessed.
42) Ezekiel 44:21 - Again God instructed the
priests not to drink wine.
43) Daniel 1:5-17 - Daniel refused the king’s
intoxicating wine and was blessed for it along
with his abstaining friends.
44) Daniel 5:1 - Belshazzar, ruler of Babylon;
led his people in drinking.
45) Daniel 5:2-3 - The king, along with his
nobles, wives, and concubines, drank from the
goblets which had been taken from God’s
temple.
46) Daniel 5:4 - Drinking wine was combined
with praising false gods.
47) Daniel 5:23 - God sent word to Belshazzar
that punishment would be swift for the evil he
had committed.
48) Hosea 4:11 - Intoxicating wine takes away
intelligence.
49) Hosea 7:5 - God reproves princes for
drinking.
50) Joel 1:5 - Drunkards awake to see God’s
judgment.
51) Joel 3:3 - The enemy is judged for selling
girls for wine.
52) Amos 2:8 - Unrighteous acts of Israel
included the drinking of wine which had been
taken for the payment of fines.
53) Amos 2:12 - Israel is condemned for forcing
Nazarites to drink wine.
54) Micah 2:11 - Israelites are eager to follow
false teachers who prophesy plenty of
intoxicating drinks.
55) Nahum 1:10 - The drunkards of Nineveh will
be destroyed by God.
56) Habakkuk 2:5 - A man is betrayed by wine.
57) Habakkuk 2:15 - Woe to him that gives his
neighbor drink.
58) Habakkuk 2:16 - Drinking leads to shame.
59) Matthew 24:48-51 - A drinking servant is
unprepared for his Lord’s return.
60) Luke 1:15 - John the Baptist drank neither
grape juice nor wine.
61) Luke 12:45 - Christ warned against
drunkenness.
62) Luke 21:34 - Drunkenness will cause a
person not to be ready for the Lord’s return.
63) Romans 13:13 - Do not walk in
drunkenness or immorality.
64) Romans 14:21 - Do not do anything that
will hurt your testimony as a believer.
65) 1 Corinthians 5:11 - If a Christian brother is
a drinker, do not associate with him.
66) 1 Corinthians 6:10 - Drunkards will not
inherit the kingdom of God
67) Galatians 5:21 - Acts of the sinful nature,
such as drunkenness, will prohibit a person
from inheriting the kingdom of God.
68) Ephesians 5:18 - In contrast to being drunk
with wine, the believer is to be filled with the
Spirit.
69) 1 Thessalonians 5:6-7 - Christians are to be
alert and self-controlled, belonging to the day.
Drunkards belong to the night and darkness.
70) 1 Timothy 3:2-3 - Bishops (elders) are to be
temperate, sober, and not near any wine.
71) 1 Timothy 3:8 - Deacons are to be worthy
of respect and not drinkers.
72) 1 Timothy 3:11 - Deacons’ wives are to be
temperate and sober.
73) Titus 1:7-8 - An overseer is to be
disciplined.
74) Titus 2:2-3 - The older men and older
women of the church are to be temperate and
not addicted to wine.
75) 1 Peter 4:3-4 - The past life of drunkenness
and carousing has no place in the Christian’s
life.


And if u say Jesus turn water to wine abeg is it an alcoholic wine?

parisbookaddict:



There is absolutely nothing wrong with drinking wine.
Jesus did drink wine at the last supper.

What the bible consistently warns about is obsessive drinking. Read what u posted. Its all clear warnings against drinking till you are intoxicated. Drunkness is a sin because it is gluttony.

Red wine is wonderful for ur heart, most wines are good for your belly.

Note, I say wine and not alcohol in general. Alcohols like spirits , beers, Gins etc are not wines and should be avoided.

Drink wines but don't get drunk. If u can't drink without getting drunk then don't drink at all.

ScofieldBello:
I am sure you think the wine Jesus miraculously turned water into wasn't alcoholic.
Dude, whatever is called a wine is a fermented grape juice.

ScofieldBello:
I am sure you think the wine Jesus miraculously turned water into wasn't alcoholic.
Dude, whatever is called a wine is a fermented grape juice.

ScofieldBello:
I am sure you think the wine Jesus miraculously turned water into wasn't alcoholic.
Dude, whatever is called a wine is a fermented grape juice.

personal59:


My brother I study Chemistry let m giv u some lecture on what is known as fermentation to produce a non alcohol
ic wine

Some of ARIEL’s varietal wines are are aged in small oak barrels, and all are fined and filtered according to traditional winemaking methods. Finally, more than 99.5% of the alcohol is removed through gentle cold filtration process. This process, which uses reverse osmosis, allows alcohol to be removed from ARIEL while retaining many of the qualities found in traditional wine.


How ariel is done

The base tank is initially filled with wine.
A pump pushes the wine into the reverse osmosis unit.
The cylinders have membranes that separate a syrupy concentrate from the alcohol and water.
The water and alcohol flow into a storage tank, and the concentrate is recycled 10-20 times.
Finally, before bottling, fresh water is added to the concentrate, creating the finished product!





My brother if someone do dis within a seconds is it not a miracle so abeg forget o I knw what am saying.

personal59:

My brother all wine are not alcoholic I knw what am saying nd yes there is no prove that jesus miracle is an alcoholic wine.

parisbookaddict:


No that's not what I think.

I see no problem with alcoholic wine. But not All alcoholic drinks are created the same. Eg gins, spirits, rum, beer etc are alcoholic but are not alcoholic grape wines.

ScofieldBello:
Can I get drunk by taken 3 dozens of Fanta?
Where in the Bible did you read that all the wine mentioned, had some alcoholic and others non-alcoholic?
My brother, read your Bible and you'd agree with me that the wines (all the ones mentioned in it) got people drunk and even intoxicated.


....and going by your statement (especially the one in bold print) what prove then do you have to say it wasn't an alcoholic wine? I await your logical reasoning sir.

ScofieldBello:
I couldn't agree less! Moderation is key. Funny enough, mankind can't do without it - directly and indirectly.

ScofieldBello:
100% - 99.5% = 0.5%, abi? Mind you, if the process is repeated 10-20times (even if na 100 times) there'll still be some percentage of alcohol left in the liquid content.
Does that answer tell you anything at all?
You cannot be more Catholic than the Pope!
Wine has its definition and so is fermentation.
As a chemist, I expected you to give me a chemical equation of fermentation which has 0% alcohol....then we'd continue from there.
I put it to you that you don't know what you're saying.

personal59:



I know what am saying bro u don't av to insult before passing ur mssg

Construct ur words well without insult pls learn that too

personal59:



My brother pls point to note

If dis discussion is for the sake of learning I will b with u nd if is for argument sake sorry bro I don't do that

That's by d way to ur question there is nothing like doing it 20times it is automatic process due to ur end product moreover 0.5% is same as zero alcoholic content if u test the alcoholic content afetr end product u will av no reading the 0.5% is just for benefit of doubt nt that it is present.

If u read it well I said "more than 99.5%" nt 99.5%

And going by dis 75 reason above it shows jesus self never taste an alcohol. So it make m ask the question since there is an alcoholic nd non alcoholic wine nd d bible just said "wine" nd its not specific. Those verses negate taking of wine so hw do we explain the fact that jesus take an alcohol wen bible does not support taking of alcohol.

Thanks


Constructive explanation pls


Not for the sake of argument bt for learning.
Thanks once again

personal59:


Brother we can do without it?

ScofieldBello:
You wrote that the Bible doesn't support the consumption of wine, abi? Why then would Jesus, of all people, turn water to wine?

Further more, I'll need us to logically consider the following chapters and verses...

Isaiah 28:7 - Priests and prophets stagger and reel from beer and wine, err in vision, and stumble in judgment.

Ezekiel 44:21 - Again God instructed the priests not to drink wine.

Daniel 5:4 - Drinking wine was combined with praising false gods.

Amos 2:12 - Israel is condemned for forcing Nazarites to drink wine.

Habakkuk 2:5 - A man is betrayed by wine.

Habakkuk 2:15 - Woe to him that gives his neighbor drink.

My questions:
1) Are the WINE mentioned thereof weren't alcoholic?
2) Was Jesus' own different from the ones mentioned in those chapters and verses?
3) Can you write the equation of fermentation which has 0.00000000% of alcohol for me?

Thank you.

ScofieldBello:
Perfumes, cosmetics, preservatives (in food; especially in Fast Food outlets), drugs, anaesthetics, colognes, solvents, et al

ScofieldBello:
Bro, honestly no insults intended. I am sorry if you feel insulted. Accept my apology.

personal59:


Brother sincerely only a chemist will understand what I explain above on non alcoholic fermentation.

Yes they are alcoholic and it all occur before jesus christ was born
And all d verses u quote up there and there consequence couple with the 75 I also quote mak me to conclude it isn't good and nt accepted to tke and also the one jesus gave them wasn't recorded as something that intoxicate them.

The difference is that those ones intoxicate those who tk it and the one jesus gave them wasn't recorded as an intoxicant I.e it was nt recorded that it intoxicate anyone after taking it.

Even rice av starch nd alcohol can be gotten from it too that doesn't mean rice is alcoholic.
That's y I said only a chemist will understand m better (I mean unbiased chemist)

personal59:



My brother pls point to note

If dis discussion is for the sake of learning I will b with u nd if is for argument sake sorry bro I don't do that

That's by d way to ur question there is nothing like doing it 20times it is automatic process due to ur end product moreover 0.5% is same as zero alcoholic content if u test the alcoholic content afetr end product u will av no reading the 0.5% is just for benefit of doubt nt that it is present.

If u read it well I said "more than 99.5%" nt 99.5%

And going by dis 75 reason above it shows jesus self never taste an alcohol. So it make m ask the question since there is an alcoholic nd non alcoholic wine nd d bible just said "wine" nd its not specific. Those verses negate taking of wine so hw do we explain the fact that jesus take an alcohol wen bible does not support taking of alcohol.

Thanks


Constructive explanation pls


Not for the sake of argument bt for learning.
Thanks once again

personal59:


Brother sincerely only a chemist will understand what I explain above on non alcoholic fermentation.

Yes they are alcoholic and it all occur before jesus christ was born
And all d verses u quote up there and there consequence couple with the 75 I also quote mak me to conclude it isn't good and nt accepted to tke and also the one jesus gave them wasn't recorded as something that intoxicate them.

The difference is that those ones intoxicate those who tk it and the one jesus gave them wasn't recorded as an intoxicant I.e it was nt recorded that it intoxicate anyone after taking it.

Even rice av starch nd alcohol can be gotten from it too that doesn't mean rice is alcoholic.
That's y I said only a chemist will understand m better (I mean unbiased chemist)

marykaydee:



Wait, it was first alchohol. Then 95%extacted living 5%. How is that non alchoholic fermentation? my cousin is a muslim her husband doesnt drink even non alchoholic wine cos he knows the process doesnt change thr fact that there is still alchoholic. By the way hes a phd holder. He says scientifically, there is nothing like non alchoholic wine. Its still goes through fermentation

ScofieldBello:
I couldn't agree less!
Moderation is key.
Funny enough, mankind can't do without it - directly and indirectly.

ScofieldBello:
Even if 98.5% of it was extracted, it still doesn't make it alcohol free.

We are just been sentimental!!

Your cousin's husband is absolutely RIGHT.

marykaydee:



Wait, it was first alchohol. Then 95%extacted living 5%. How is that non alchoholic fermentation? my cousin is a muslim her husband doesnt drink even non alchoholic wine cos he knows the process doesnt change thr fact that there is still alchoholic. By the way hes a phd holder. He says scientifically, there is nothing like non alchoholic wine. Its still goes through fermentation