Just coming back from a ban. All these 'weed-threads' have sprouted again with their Igbo bashing, as usual the op won't see these. Just wait first....

**sharpening my e-cutlass**

Redfruit:
What is a Sagay? Anything from the South wesrern part of Nigeria that Breaths, sees and worst of all talks. Mistakenly made a SAN and is now a nuisance to real learned people.

your father can never be a SAN. So I guess your reasoning is inline line with that of your household. How can a low brain like yours say sagay name mistake. I bet your pa when he see sagay he go tremble. Your lot hates the truth .5% always wanting 50%. Kura

mazzi:
Sagey the fool

igbos hate d truth.....like father like son.

chrisblack:
your father can never be a SAN. So I guess your reasoning is inline line with that of your household. How can a low brain like yours say sagay name mistake. I bet your pa when he see sagay he go tremble. Your lot hates the truth .5% always wanting 50%. Kura

So na you dem send come? The truth is that people with low self esteem always assume that great heights are not attainable by anyone except those fortunate to have attained it in his time.
Asshole, believe me Sagay cannot undo the shoe lace of my dad talk more of Standing next to him in the comity of achievers. Sagay, a product of Nigerian failed legal system where noisemakers and celebrated mediocres dorned with cream coloured wigs are worshipped. Tell me, which Nigerian recent legal star thrives on integrity? They all sit on the comfy throne of Nigerian system of " The best con-artist is the greatest" decieving Nigerians and recieving accolades from nitwits and gullible idiots fortunate enough to be set free from the pangs of information, media and communication timidity by tecno, Obi and their smartphone likes like you. Why would a supposed great lawyer celebrate and encourage crass impunity and lawlessness by a half-witted General? With the enormous powers in the executive arsenal of the president, even a "dot" of lawlessness and abuse of the rule of law is dangerous and can make a dictator out of a democratic system. Be wise boy or betterstill, go back and recieve enough dose of your mums chest milk else I mobilise the glorious 5% to "E-mob" you.
CC:trukpusher

tuale4u:
I agree with sagay completely.

thank God Prof Itse sagay is from delta state and south south.\
This further proof South South are not willing to be part of crazy Biafra.
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Igbo Marginalisation is a Big Fat Lie. It is Just a Propaganda[/size]

There has been a lot of shout of marginalisation by South East part of Nigeria since after May 29th, 2015. This is a lie that have been said too long which is now looking like true because others have refused to come out and correct this big lie. I will like to address most of the points use in spreading this lie. What we have in Nigeria is tribal competition and not Marginalisation.

1. They Claim Igbo need to score like 70% while the North need to score 5% to gain admission to Federal govt Secondary School

This point is highly flawed. First of all, the requirement of high cut off mark for admission in Federal govt Secondary School is not limited to South East. South west (Yoruba) and South South also require high cut off to gain same admission. This in itself is not marginalization. This in itself is an inclusion policy in order to ensure the educational weak North still have access to Federal govt College. Despite the cut off differences, South east, south west and south south still dominate the federal govt colleges admission. I believe it would have been marginalisation if we subject the north to the the same cut off as us in the south. Because they would not have been able to compete because they are weak in educational capacity. Policy of inclusion and diversity is a global practice. Multinationals companies are compelled to include people of all race, disability, religion, sexual orientation and gender in their workforce. This is a United Nation mandate. This means there is a minimum percentage of a group of people that must be in the workforce even if there are more capable people in another group to fill up the space. A society that have no space for the weak is not a fair and just society.

2. The North dominate Federal Civil Service due to quota system

This is another big lie. It has been proven than Imo State has the highest number of federal civil servant followed by kogi and Ogun state in Nigeria. By geopolitical zone, south west has the highest, followed by North central, south south third, south east fourth, North west and north east are the last two. The south is 61% of the total Nigeria federal civil servant while the north is 39%. The only thing I may agree with is that some northerners may have risen faster than some of their southern colleagues. However this has been highly corrected in the last 16 years of Democracy. In the last 16years the South has been in Position of President for 13years and the North 3years. As at May 29th, 2015 there were more permanent secretaries of southern origin than northerners. Currently the head of civil service is a southern woman from Cross river State.

3. Federal road in South east are bad because of marginalization.

This is another lie. Marginalization is not responsible for bad state of south east federal road. Two factors are responsible. Soil type and corruption. In the last 16years almost all the ministers of work have been from south south. From Tony Anenih, to odion Ugbesia to Mike Onolimemhen. Who among this people will want to marginalised south east? To bring my point home on the issue of soil type and corruption, Onitsha -Owerri road was completed less than 8years ago, today the road is already dilapidated. if you spend the same money used for that road in a northern road, it will last 20years or more. Instead of the contractors to do the road by putting the soil type into consideration, because of corruption the roads are poorly done and money are pocketed. If you go and find out who the contractors are you will discover that there are a lot of southerners involve in sharing the money.

4. South east is marginalized because of Unemployment and poverty
This is another twisted statement. I believe there are more poverty and unemployment in the North than in the South. The truth is that unemployment in Nigeria is a national problem. There is poverty everywhere in Nigeria. Unemployed youth are all over the country.

5. There are more northerners in NNPC than Southerners
This is another big lie. There are no more northerners in NNPC. Actually there are slightly more southerners in NNPC. NNPC usually recruit many of their staffs by quota system. Today we have 19 northern states and 17 southern state. This will make it appear you will have slighty more northerners. This may be true before 1999. But since Gaus Obaseki from Edo state became NNPC GMD, he changed the recruitment structure. While about 60% of recruitment are still base on quota system, about 40% are base on merit. This has greatly changed the statistics of NNPC staffs. And also in general in the Oil and gas industries, more than 70% of the staffs are southerners. Yoruba and Igbo dominate the oil and gas industry in Nigeria. Those of us from south south even feel marginalized by Yoruba and Igbo when it come to oil and gas Job

6. South east is marginalised because they have five(5) states while others have six (6) states.
This is more of political competition than marginalization. About 13 Northern states each are bigger in size than all the South East states combined. Kogi state is the 13th biggest state in Nigeria. Kogi State size is 29833km sq. If you add up the size of all the south east state it is 29095km sq. Thus the whole south east combined is approximately the same size with Oyo State, the 14th biggest state in Nigeria. The whole of south east is one-third of South south. The argument mostly put forward by Igbo on this topic is that state should be shared by population only and size should not be considered. With the small size of south east in relative to other region, south east is suppose to have maximum of 3 states. It is the consideration of the population and their political strength that makes it 5 states. I believe the population has been strongly considered.

7. Igbo Presidency
This is another area where you hear plenty lie on marginalization propanganda. In other to fully discuss this issue we need to look at Nigeria history briefly. In the beginning of Independence in 1960, Nigeria politics was dominated by Igbo and Hausa/Fulani. The Yoruba were the one who were playing Opposition. From 1960 to 1966 before the first coup, Nigeria federal govt was more Hausa and Igbo government at the centre. While Tafawa balewa was prime minister , Nnamdi Azikiwe was President (though ceremonial but he was number one citizen of the country). Then came the first coup which made Igbo man the First Military head of State of Nigeria. After that, it became from one coup to another which was dominated by the North. This in itself was not marginalization. It was simply dog eat dog affair and purely military affair and power struggle. Then came democracy in 1979 to 1983, this again became Hausa and Igbo government. Yoruba was now the opposition. after that came coup. Yes the military govt became northern dominated. but I cant call it marginalization because this were simply power struggle among opportunist. Then came 1999 and democracy. There was a kind of gentleman agreement or understanding of power sharing from south to North. We must understand that the power sharing was not by geopolitical zone but by region. Obasanjo who is from south did 8 years, the govt moved to North in the name of Yar adua. from North it came to south through Jonathan who did approximately 6 years. From Jonathan it went to the North through Buhari. If Buhari do his 8 years it will come to the South again in 2023. This in itself have been very fair and just. Nigeria democracy from 1999 has been fair to both North and South. By 2023, South East need to play the right politics for them to get presidency in 2023. Because 2023 presidency is for the south not for the south east. As far as the Northern part of Nigeria is concern, 2023 should be southern presidency. The truth is that South East, South West and South South will compete for it. Nobody will just give you the presidency just like that without you playing the right politics. If Igbo continue to make almost every other part of Nigeria their enemy, south south or south west will get 2023 presidency. Should South west or South South win 2023 presidency nobody can call it marginalization. It is the same Igbo that are claiming marginalization who are Supporting Wike an Ikwrere man in Rivers state. From Omehia, to Amaechi to Wike are all Ikwerre. Ikwerre and upland have been ruling rivers state for 17 years now (Since 1999). Yet the greatest supporters of Wike (an Ikwerre and upland) are Igbo in rivers state. This is one big hippocracy. You claim you are politically marginalised yet you are promoting exactly the same thing in rivers state. Just as I said, losing in a political competition is not marginalization. Wike (upland) winning dakuku (riverine) is not marginalization but political competition.


In summary, there is only one form of marginalization in Nigeria. That is the marginalization of the masses by the political class. Where the political class eat fat while the masses are left to die in squalor.

I salute your intellectual sagacity

I never knew this sagay was an irresponsible, useless old man who has no truth or decorum.

Eledan:


Anyone that says what annoys their sense of sight and hearing is Yoruba, regardless of what the person's name says.

Success is truly a bully!..this thread has nothing to do with Yorubas,yet we still get mentioned by biafrauds...hahahahahaha!

We know Biafra is a fraud.

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Nobody is holding you clowns from seceding! After all, It was your biafra men that beg to be allowed back into Nigeria after Poverty and Kwarshiokor wrought in Ibo land!
If you truly want to secede, you know how to go about by asking ibo senators in the house to pass the referendum bill! Dancing unclad on the street like lunatics won't solve anythin

Mentality like yours will pin this country down
for a long time and there is no hope in sight.
Do u call it toughness? Well u wait and see.
Better to die of poverty and kwashiokor in Biafra than share same country with selfish stone hearts like u. The problem is not the country, not the people but the arrangement. Ok?