snailspeed:

That is the position of the law. Your sentiments dont count. If anyone thinks it isnt right, then they should canvass that the law be changed. Even state governors have security votes and they can use it for about anything. Of course anything doesnt mean anything evil but any kind of project that is considered as something that will promote the security of the state or country as the case may be

rolchi:


Point...In other words, it is 'black' budget!

snailspeed:


There is no such $2.2 billion and that is why GEJ came out in November to deny it outrightly. Neither GEJ nor Sambo has admitted anything like that. You are seriously feeding from Lie Mohammed's pot there! GEJ has denied any such authorization and NOI said the same thing! You shouldnt bother arguing along that line. You will lose. You should ask yourself why the EFCC is unwilling to pursue the case legally but is resorting to all kinds of tactics to keep Dasuki for long periods of incaceration. All the monies that have been mentioned to have been collected by different individuals, including Dopkesi are monies from the NSA's office, not arms purchase money

maverickboy:
No! It's not about sentiment. It's about how it should be. Security vote, money is release to head of governance out of trust that it would be used for something appropriate.

TonyeBarcanista:

Oga forget what GEJ said in USA. There are document with DSS and EFCC. Sambo Dasuki, the main at the center insisted that GEJ approved the $2.2billion for arms. What Iwaela said was that she wasn't part of the entire $2.2billion extra budgetary arms deal, she said she was only involved in the committee that allocated $300million Abacha fund to Dasuki. The $300million isn't exclusive of the $2.2billion, it forms part. Jonathan on his own said he didn't approve $2.2billion "at once", and nobody said it was approved "at once". GEJ is yet to deny approving it. Beside, there are documents and authorisations.


Again, it is no scam. Dokpesi and co should save their sermon for the judge.

snailspeed:


There is no such $2.2 billion and that is why GEJ came out in November to deny it outrightly. Neither GEJ nor Sambo has admitted anything like that. You are seriously feeding from Lie Mohammed's pot there! GEJ has denied any such authorization and NOI said the same thing! You shouldnt bother arguing along that line. You will lose. You should ask yourself why the EFCC is unwilling to pursue the case legally but is resorting to all kinds of tactics to keep Dasuki for long periods of incaceration. All the monies that have been mentioned to have been collected by different individuals, including Dopkesi are monies from the NSA's office, not arms purchase money

maverickboy:
Bro, seriously I don't know why you are fighting for these crooks.
The money under NSO

rolchi:


Thank You Sir. Please, note that I have earlier advised the OP that we must wait for court processes to run through as I am an addicted 'democrat'. Thanks to the Ex President GEJ, who demonstrated how a democrat should be.

Now, to my question

1. Do we have any evidence to show that Dasuki said anything as you have outlined? Is it possible that his statement to the EFCC is in public domain?

2. If 2.1B USD is actually "missing" or "misapplied" and this amount is totaly for the purchase of arms, how come the EFCC has only brought charges for less than 200M USD?

Thanks

snailspeed:


There are no documents anywhere to show such propaganda. It is what it is, cheap propaganda! If there are documents to prove such claims

1. The EFCC will be very willing to go through the whole process legally and not resort to their media trial and gestapo style prosecution
2. The charges brought against Dasuki in court would have reflected that. Total charges brought against Dasuki in court is less than N50 billion. $2.1B is not N50B my friend, except you attended night school like I suspect!

And Dopkesi has already said he shoudl be charged to court. The only people actually sying away from the courts is the government, not the accused. Metuh has said to them, lets go to court. But EFCC is keeping him and bringing out one propaganda after another of how he ate papers and how he called people's names. Such a sham!

cfame1:
I wish I can share this on my twiter timeline.......well articulated and and straight to the point..JJ omojuwa would not want to see this.

It was a well crafted stunt to distract the masses and persecute any dissenting voice so Buhari can fully consolidate power. Does that mean I think many of the politicians mentioned in the scandal are clean? By no means! Nigerian politicians are corrupt without a doubt including the presidency and everyone in the rulling APC party. The president's campaign itself was sponsored from corruption

I find it really deceitful when I see lines like "what will you tell the Nigerian soldiers that didnt have weapons to fight and were killed because Dasuki shared the arms money". That is nothing but propaganda and trying to appeal to sentiments to push a narrative. If that were the case, what has the same military been using to fight BH in the last 8 months since Buhari has not bought any new weapons? What weapons did the army use to push back BH prior to the 2015 elections? Did they push BH back with their bare hands too? Even Lie Mohammed claims BH has been defeated. With which weapons did the army defeat BH? With their bare hands?

Goke7:


I will not condemn but rather asked if you or anyone close to you was a victim of the insurgency, will you ever come out with a piece like this? I think we should careful when we try to confuse our personal opinions or experience in discussing very sensitive national matters, GEJ is not that hated as you and your fellow admirers think but the way and and manner you guys confuse very sensitive national matters with how you will feel personally over issues requires some restraint.

You guys have forgotten that it was when PMB set up a panel to probe whether monies budgeted to spent on arms to fight insurgency was used judiciously that all the revelations we have been hearing emerged, we are talking serious matters here and you are trying to be technical by saying that they were security votes, if its security votes, how come falae, dokpesi, obaigbena that are not security contractors benefited from the funds.

Please for once be sympathetic to the plight of the victims of the insurgency and don't let your hatred for PMB and love for GEJ make you a human being without feelings to the down trodden. Thanks and God bless

snailspeed:


There are no documents anywhere to show such propaganda. It is what it is, cheap propaganda! If there are documents to prove such claims

1. The EFCC will be very willing to go through the whole process legally and not resort to their media trial and gestapo style prosecution
2. The charges brought against Dasuki in court would have reflected that. Total charges brought against Dasuki in court is less than N50 billion. $2.1B is not N50B my friend, except you attended night school like I suspect!

And Dopkesi has already said he should be charged to court. The only people actually shying away from the courts is the government, not the accused. Metuh has said to them, lets go to court. But EFCC is keeping him and bringing out one propaganda after another of how he ate papers and how he called people's names. Such a sham!

Goke7:


I will not condemn but rather asked if you or anyone close to you was a victim of the insurgency, will you ever come out with a piece like this? I think we should careful when we try to confuse our personal opinions or experience in discussing very sensitive national matters, GEJ is not that hated as you and your fellow admirers think but the way and and manner you guys confuse very sensitive national matters with how you will feel personally over issues requires some restraint.

You guys have forgotten that it was when PMB set up a panel to probe whether monies budgeted to spent on arms to fight insurgency was used judiciously that all the revelations we have been hearing emerged, we are talking serious matters here and you are trying to be technical by saying that they were security votes, if its security votes, how come falae, dokpesi, obaigbena that are not security contractors benefited from the funds.

Please for once be sympathetic to the plight of the victims of the insurgency and don't let your hatred for PMB and love for GEJ make you a human being without feelings to the down trodden. Thanks and God bless

TonyeBarcanista:

Thank you!

The $2.2 billion is the subtotal amount for extra-budgeted money for arms deal. So far, neither Dasuki nor the DFA ONSA has refuted the $2.2billion. They are the major players. Remember that the money didn't come in a whole block.

Secondly, you can't charge Dasuki for "stealing" or diverting $2.2billion when you are yet to establish that he diverted/stole all the monies on his own. He will be only charged for whatever is connected to him and he's being charged in batches. Also remember that there are other players that will share in the prosecution. The bafarawas, Dokpesis, Haliru etc.

TonyeBarcanista:

Oga forget what GEJ said in USA. There are document with DSS and EFCC. Sambo Dasuki, the main at the center insisted that GEJ approved the $2.2billion for arms. What Iwaela said was that she wasn't part of the entire $2.2billion extra budgetary arms deal, she said she was only involved in the committee that allocated $300million Abacha fund to Dasuki. The $300million isn't exclusive of the $2.2billion, it forms part. Jonathan on his own said he didn't approve $2.2billion "at once", and nobody said it was approved "at once". GEJ is yet to deny approving it. Beside, there are documents and authorisations.


Again, it is no scam. Dokpesi and co should save their sermon for the judge.

TonyeBarcanista:

I don't get your point. You can't charge Dasuki for looting the whole $2.2billion except you can establish that he on his own diverted the entire money. However, there are people involved that will share part in the prosecution. Also be aware that the FG is charging Sambo in bits.

Secondly, if neither Sambo Dasuki nor the Director of finance denied the $2.2billion, what exactly are you harping your argument on?

Thirdly, the investigators has said they have documents, this the people in the center didn't dispute. I don't know why again you are disputing.

Fouthly, Dokpesi has already been charged to court, he's on bail. He will explain to the judge. Bail is not freedom

Fifthly, there is nothing like media trial. I am not aware of any. The media only report events.

TonyeBarcanista:

I don't get your point. You can't charge Dasuki for looting the whole $2.2billion except you can establish that he on his own diverted the entire money. However, there are people involved that will share part in the prosecution. Also be aware that the FG is charging Sambo in bits.

Secondly, if neither Sambo Dasuki nor the Director of finance denied the $2.2billion, what exactly are you harping your argument on?

Thirdly, the investigators has said they have documents, this the people in the center didn't dispute. I don't know why again you are disputing.

Fouthly, Dokpesi has already been charged to court, he's on bail. He will explain to the judge. Bail is not freedom

Fifthly, there is nothing like media trial. I am not aware of any. The media only report events.

snailspeed:


You keep defeating yourself in your own posts! Hear yourself:

"Secondly, you can't charge Dasuki for "stealing" or diverting $2.2billion when you are yet to establish that he diverted/stole all the monies on his own."

How can you say he diverted money at all if you dont know how he diverted it? Arent you confused? That means you arrested a man, claimed he is a thief and you are now trying to find out what and how he stole? Thank you for defeating your own arguments. You just made it very clear it is all propaganda and media trial!!!

amaechi1:
It is propaganda but some people are testifying to have received money. Even Dasuki himself acknowledged that monies were shared. Perhaps, you have benefited from the loot and you are afraid the bus will soon stop at your door post. Don't worry it will soon get there.

snailspeed:


You keep defeating yourself in your own posts! Hear yourself:

"Secondly, you can't charge Dasuki for "stealing" or diverting $2.2billion when you are yet to establish that he diverted/stole all the monies on his own."

How can you say he diverted money at all if you dont know how he diverted it? Arent you confused? That means you arrested a man, claimed he is a thief and you are now trying to find out what and how he stole? Thank you for defeating your own arguments. You just made it very clear it is all propaganda and media trial!!!

maverickboy:
Bro, seriously I don't know why you are fighting for these crooks.
The money under NSO

theshadyexpress:


stop trying to change the goal post

1) there is no where dasuki admitted GEJ approved any 2.1bn dollars

2)the total amount alleged in court by the EFCC to have been siphoned is a far cry from the much talked about 2.1bn dollars

3)There is enough evidence to indeed prove that arms were purchased, so where did the FG get the money from





tonye my guy, psycophancy dont pay like objectivity does

theshadyexpress:


stop trying to change the goal post

1) there is no where dasuki admitted GEJ approved any 2.1bn dollars

2)the total amount alleged in court by the EFCC to have been siphoned is a far cry from the much talked about 2.1bn dollars

3)There is enough evidence to indeed prove that arms were purchased, so where did the FG get the money from





tonye my guy, psycophancy dont pay like objectivity does

theshadyexpress:


guy dont let me use my respect for you, can you please show us the link where Dasuki said GEJ approved "2,1 bn dollars" for arms purchase?

for crying out loud if you want to support APC govt do it with pride and stop acting a script

TonyeBarcanista:

Comprehension is indeed an issue here. Sambo Dasuki's office as NSA(ONSA) was given $2.2billion to purchase arms. The money was "diverted" to purpose other than arms purchase. The whole money didn't end up in Dasuki account alone, some other people participated. How can you then charge Dasuki for the whole $2.2billion? This is a straightforward thing. You can only charge Sambo for stealing whatever is traced too him, and perhaps as conspirator and accestory in what went to others.

Hence, this.....

""Secondly, you can't charge Dasuki for "stealing" or diverting $2.2billion when you are yet to establish that he diverted/stole all the monies on his own.""

TonyeBarcanista:

Sambo Dasuki is alive and not dead. He is yet to refute the said $2.2billion. What is your own inside? Were you paid peanut by the indictee? Whether or not EFCC(under PDP) looted more does not nullify the subject at hand. Even if a percentage of the sum was used for arms, it still doesn't invalidate the subject. They should explain to the investigators and the judge.

snailspeed:


In addition to being a sycophant for Buhari, you are really not that intelligent. Just read your own post again. If the $2.2B money was diverted to purpose other than arms purchase then Dasuki is certainly guilty of corruption of the whole sum, not the one he used to buy things for himself. Isnt he the one who disbured it? Or someon else was in charge of the money who now debursed Dasuki's own share to him? You are terribly confused! You dey fall hand no be small. Shameful!

TonyeBarcanista:

Sambo Dasuki is alove and not dead. He is yet to refute the said $2.2billion. What is your own inside? Were you paid peanut by the indictee? Whether or not EFCC(under PDP) looted more does not nullify the subject at hand. Even if a percentage of the sum was used for arms, it still doesn't invalidate the subject. They should explain to the investigators and the judge.