Sambo Dasuki has released statement with respect to the subject and never DID he refute the $2.2billion sum in the statement. The second major player, a Director of Finance in the ONSA also didn't refute the total sum. On what basis are you taking your position? Is it not when the suspects refutes that we will ask EFCC and DSS to produce the documentry evidence in their disposal?
PS: I'm not a sycophant like some of you. I can boast anywhere that I have never received any dime from any politician dead or alive. If I'm employed by a politician today, I will only accept if it suits my principle. Stop judging me with your own standard!
barcanistawhat did you just say. make I call ggbawe for you?
you Don forget protection seeking so soon.
abi because u 've joined apc all Ur sins 've washed away?
The arguments for and against are based on what "Sambo Said" purportedly, gleaned from various news media
What sambo says can only be taken as gospel truth from depositions during his trial proceedings.
Until then everything on here is conjecture.
Even the EFCC hasnt released any press statements that would define their position on the issues, all ascribed to them is hereasay gleaned from same news media
seems like faulty foundations to base arguments upon.
Perhaps, you don't know how you have shifted from the original subject to commenting on the roles of the player. Perhaps, this may be my last reply to you.
Oga forget what GEJ said in USA. There are document with DSS and EFCC. Sambo Dasuki, the main at the center insisted that GEJ approved the $2.2billion for arms. What Iwaela said was that she wasn't part of the entire $2.2billion extra budgetary arms deal, she said she was only involved in the committee that allocated $300million Abacha fund to Dasuki. The $300million isn't exclusive of the $2.2billion, it forms part. Jonathan on his own said he didn't approve $2.2billion "at once", and nobody said it was approved "at once". GEJ is yet to deny approving it. Beside, there are documents and authorisations.
Again, it is no scam. Dokpesi and co should save their sermon for the judge.
When are you announcing your decamping from PDP to APC political ashi?
Oga forget what GEJ said in USA. There are document with DSS and EFCC. Sambo Dasuki, the main at the center insisted that GEJ approved the $2.2billion for arms. What Iwaela said was that she wasn't part of the entire $2.2billion extra budgetary arms deal, she said she was only involved in the committee that allocated $300million Abacha fund to Dasuki. The $300million isn't exclusive of the $2.2billion, it forms part. Jonathan on his own said he didn't approve $2.2billion "at once", and nobody said it was approved "at once". GEJ is yet to deny approving it. Beside, there are documents and authorisations.
Again, it is no scam. Dokpesi and co should save their sermon for the judge.
What stup¡d document?! Another brainwashed Nigerian on the loose!
yipata: we know who u are @snailspeed, u dnt need to worry urself about all this writeups, we know u guys , ur doing ur job, i mean the job ur been paid for, DECIEVING AND DISTRACTING THE MASSES. Well the gullible ones will support and hail u for this write up, but if dem no tell u, shey ur conscience no judge u ni, say [b]u want to send us back to egypt with this write up[\b], if u no care about urself, how about the future generations coming after u, no sell them too now... abha.. hmn
were you ever in egypt? If you were, how do you know you have left egypt? Abeg follow dey argue or you keep mute.
The reason why intelligent people don't go into mindless outrage is to still be sensible enough to read and filter information properly.
It is doubtful if your outrage is allowing you to read simple posts. It is even more worrisome that you don't have the capacity to process basic information. Otherwise, you would have saved yourself of rantings about 3 court cases when one of the cases (alleged illegal possession of A PISTOL) has been under reference here all the while.
The more you post here, the more your infantile reasoning is revealed.
. Your intelligence is just good enough to support corrupt politicians with useless arguments that simply don't add up. The cases are lined up for January 2016 and so make your way there and defend your principal DASUKI. I won't trade words any further with you because I've seen that you are bereft of ideas and sound logic typical of several wailing wailers. The war against CORRUPTION is certainly uncompromisable. If you and your party think you have superior ideas on how this war should be fought please save your energy till the next electoral cycle. Don't bother replying me because I won't see it.
Tonye, what have come over u, I am totally disappointed seeing the kind of rubbish u post, I am one of your admirers but have totally lost respect for you especially when you defend illegality. Like someone asked, when are you announcing your defection to apc
I now believe the op wen he said you 're unintelligent.
the fact he pleaded not guilty means he refuted every lie being peddled by das and efcc
. Now I realise intelligence is far from certain people. So in your village a "not guilty plea" amounts to a declaration of innocence by the courts. Is the accused a judge in his own case that his not pleading guilty means the end of the case.
akinsbaba2015: . Now I realise intelligence is far from certain people. So in your village a "not guilty plea" amounts to a declaration of innocence by the courts. Is the accused a judge in his own case that his not pleading guilty means the end of the case.
dude. Mr intelligence. before you jump in make sure u understand proper Wat is being talked about.
yipata: we know who u are @snailspeed, u dnt need to worry urself about all this writeups, we know u guys , ur doing ur job, i mean the job ur been paid for, DECIEVING AND DISTRACTING THE MASSES. Well the gullible ones will support and hail u for this write up, but if dem no tell u, shey ur conscience no judge u ni, say u want to send us back to egypt with this write up, if u no care about urself, how about the future generations coming after u, no sell them too now... abha.. hmn
nobody paid him anything.
even if he was paid. it's nice to see someone getting recognized for saying the truth
Op!!! Are u sure u are in this country. Let me believe that u just arrived from a sabbatical leave or your pay master has sent you some dough. peradventure you have something to gain from the lies you are trying to feed some gullible elements. If u are still asking when did Dasuki refuted the claims of the looted monies... U should be better ignored because it simply means you are not current with the ongoing saga that is why the piece or better still thrash u av just written is somehow deformed with the latest updates. I respect u quite much but with this piece of yours I think I should av a rethink because how on earth do u think dasuki will be charged to court alone without nailing other conspirators. Just eat or swallow a piece of the humble pie. U got no point to back ur brothers up. Gather updated information before writing any piece.
You have changed. You use to research issues well before you write or respond but these days, you sound like the self-appointed APC information officer. Where and when did Dasuki admitted that Jonathan approved $2.2billion for arms? Provide the video link please because since the "media trial" commenced, Dasuki has not said anything unless the lies and propaganda published by the same set of government propaganda machines. Kindly provide the links to the video where Dasuki admitted your above assertion sir. The last thing I heard on National television from his lawyer is that the truth will come out in the open court ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJtdZ41IHwQ). You are also aware that Metuh allegedly said the same thing that we should wait to hear his side of the story in the open court. Bros, many of us love you especially your unbiased and intelligent opinions but lately sir, you have changed with the change. Hope you have not been "visited" too?
Edited Even if you look at all the charges in court, no mention of arms money except private expenses of PDP.
I swear down.. the fool don lose him credibility.. I followed this thread from page 1 till the end and it was a shame seeing a dude I once admired falling his hand publicly.
akinsbaba2015: . Your intelligence is just good enough to support corrupt politicians with useless arguments that simply don't add up. The cases are lined up for January 2016 and so make your way there and defend your principal DASUKI. I won't trade words any further with you because I've seen that you are bereft of ideas and sound logic typical of several wailing wailers. The war against CORRUPTION is certainly uncompromisable. If you and your party think you have superior ideas on how this war should be fought please save your energy till the next electoral cycle. Don't bother replying me because I won't see it.
No more save your energy for the courts? You have just confirmed the so called corruption war by power drunk buhari is political against opposition. smh
well analysed writeup there! but this raises one or two questions and those are:
Where does the money that was distributed to those people that have been mentioned so far comes from?
Or no money was ever distributed to anybody and the names being mentioned is part of the propaganda?
But mind you, not one of those people, despite realising the implications of the scandal on their political career denied to have collected money from the last administration.
I most confess that I didn't read beyond the first paragraph before the exact thought of what you have up there came up in my mind. Just exactly what you have up there was what came to mind the moment I read the first paragraph. And I most confess that I never bordered myself reading the remaining parts. The morning shows the day.
Please read my post again. The monies being mentioned are monies from the allocation to the office of the National Security Adviser (NSA) throughout his tenure. They come under SECURITY VOTES. They are not money for arms purchase. And under security votes, they can be used for practically anything
Please note that I personally do not support the security vote law and would want it changed but that is what the law is for now and even the Buhari administration is taking advantage of it as we speak
.....It's obvious you know next to nothing about Security Vote, in the Nigerian political context.
No Sir! The $2.2 billion wasn't for "security vote" as you claim. It was an extra-budgetary amount that the FG set aside for arms purchase. It is different from the $1billion that the FG borrowed in 2014 for same purpose and other budgeted expenses.
The so-called $300million returned Abacha loot forms part of the $2.2 billion extra budgeted for arms purchase. They aren't for "Security vote". Even the authorisation by Jonathan said arms purchase. Sambo Dasuki didn't deny that. In fact, he said that Jonathan approved the $2.2billion for the purpose.
N/B: The arms purchase $2.2billion is different from the appropriated monies by the NASS. Allow the people invoved to defend themselves.
Can't you read? He is GUILTY of corruption but can't be charged for looting the whole money. Those that participated will also be charged alongside. The FG has decided to prosecute them independently. This is common sense. Dasuki can be charged as conspirator to what goes to Dokpesi but he can't be charge for stealing what goes to Dokpesi. Dokpesi will be charged for that.
You have been employing insult and name calling to backup your claim. Honestly, this is a testament that you have weak argument.
If Dasuki and the DFA didn't refute the $2.2billion, I wonder what you base your premise on. Perhaps, a paymaster of yours is involved... Anyway, save that for the judge
If he can't be charged for stealing all the money as you claim, can't he be charged for misappropriation of funds? Or are you trying to imply that someone disbursed the funds on his behalf and gave him his own share? Or can't he be charged for financial recklessness too?
I swear down.. the fool don lose him credibility.. I followed this thread from page 1 till the end and it was shame seeing a dude I was admired falling his hand publicly.
I just wonder why he lost his credibility so early.
This is 2016 now and it's a new government, I know asking the right questions is not relevant especially to people like you that are very quick to run off with the news they want to hear.
And indeed its 2016, people like me aren't people like you who will never find fault in anything people the love and adore do, even if they physically kill you.
Like I said in my earlier post, people need to argue with the proper perspective and with facts and common sense. Unless you have a proof or a credible source that alleged that $2.1 billion dollars was borrowed by the Jonathan led government for the purchase of arms, then you do not have any valid argument.
The whole bloated figure of $2.1 billion like the OP had already argued are accumulated monies allocated to the office Dasuki occupied which spanned from the time he was appointed to the time he was removed from the office. Even Jonathan gas repeatedly said said there was no time he approved such amount for the acquisition of weapons. Anyone with common sense knows that it us not possible for any government to allocate such amount in one fell swoop to be managed by one man.
It is obvious from the way and manner the the Buhari government is using arbitrary powers that they have no strong case against Dasuki, while the media is busy peddling $2.1 billion and everyone is shouting Ole, kill am, in the court of law where the real prosecution should take place they are charging him for misappropriating Nigeria N13 billion which the man is saying is still a lie and wants his day in court. All I am interested in is the facts of the case and not propaganda and playing on people's sentiments.
Still, you never fail to amaze. I would have expected that you asked what on earth did Dasuki use the money given to him to do, because we both know, nothing what done with that money, given the way Boko Haram clearly used the army to play ball.
Or even, you should, where did the so called money, Dokpesi and co receive came from, what was it meant for cos its clearly not meant for 'sharing' to some people just so they can give some people their support. The $1 or $2 dollars GEJ requested for, was it borrowed?, if it was, what was it used for etc...
Mr man. These are the right questions any man who is clearly thinking straight will ask. Not screaming witch hunt because that's what you're clearly insinuating.
Perhaps, you don't know how you have shifted from the original subject to commenting on the roles of the player. Perhaps, this may be my last reply to you.
Even Metuh admitted collecting N400million frrom ONSA after doing a "special assignment" for Jonathan.
Thirdly, you have no argument. If you think you do, please, approach the judge.
Fourthly, I have no business to comment whether or not Dasuki really got GEJ's authorisations, that's their own business. They should tell the judge.
Just seen this nonsense of a thread and I weep for the future of this country. How can someone turn common sense upside down all in attempt to defend evil?
If the Op believes it is only $300million Abatcha loot that was released for arms and the other parts of the $2.2b is meant for security vote what then happens to the $1b specially approved loan for arms purchase ?
And security vote is always directly under the office of the President/Governor and no President ever lodge his security vote in care of his adviser. ONSA is not in charge of security vote in this country.
And are the huge cash moved away from the CBN also parts of security vote?
well analysed writeup there! but this raises one or two questions and those are:
Where does the money that was distributed to those people that have been mentioned so far comes from?
Or no money was ever distributed to anybody and the names being mentioned is part of the propaganda?
But mind you, not one of those people, despite realising the implications of the scandal on their political career denied to have collected money from the last administration.
There's a difference between security votes and defence budget.... Everybody who has been in government know this... Security votes are never accounted for... Till date, it is still the practice while defence budget s allocations for hardwares and softwares of the security forces.... Including their emoluments. This government has set up a precedent that might hurt them in the future all because of the fight against Dasuki.
Security votes are like public relations cash for any government... If an opinion leader needs to be settled, the comes from there, if some powerful individual needs to be neutralized in their locality, it is from that votes that another person is groomed and suddenly becomes rich enough to vanquish the enemy.
$2.1 Billion Arms Money Is Biggest Propaganda Of 2015 by snailspeed: 12:01pm I have been following the so called Dasukigate and I am amazed how easy it is for a government to use the media to deceive and distract the ignorant masses. History has shown that propaganda remains the biggest tool of any government that intends to enslave a people. Unfortnately, even the current opposition has been quite incompetent in putting the records straight
For the records, there is nothing like a $2.1B arms money. It was a propaganda masterstroke well concotted by the DSS and EFCC to distract everyone from the incompetence of the Buhari administration. That is why former president Goodluck Jonathan has come out twice now to put the records staright that he never approved any $2.1B arms money. But it seems the ignorant masses still dont get it. So where did the "$2.1B arms money" headline originate from?
$2.1B was the monies that was allocated to the office of the NSA throughout Dasuki's tenure as NSA. These monies come under SECURITY VOTE. It was not money allocated to the purchase of weapons as the DSS and the EFCC have claimed. That is why they cant take Dasuki to court. They will lose woefully. Security vote is not money allocated for arms purchase. Of the whole monies that make up the $2.1B, only the $300 million from the returned Abacha loot was actually recommended for the purchase of arms. That is why in court, the charges brought against Dasuki was in that range. But they are likely going to lose in court for that because weapons were actually purchased. Whether they are worth $300 million is what the EFCC will have to prove in court. But from the way they have been refusing to follow the court process, one is safe to assume that they dont trust their own case against Dasuki.
But why did they go with the headlines of "$2.1 Billion arms purchase money" when they knew it was not the case? Because the whole anti coruption fight was only a propaganda stunt from the beginning. It was a well crafted stunt to distract the masses and persecute any dissenting voice so Buhari can fully consolidate power. Does that mean I think many of the politicians mentioned in the scandal are clean? By no means! Nigerian politicians are corrupt without a doubt including the presidency and everyone in the rulling APC party. The president's campaign itself was sponsored from corruption. The Amaechi corruption scandals are well documented with very strong evidence.
If Dasuki has stolen any funds, he should be prosecuted accordingly, but the media propaganda and charade has got to stop. Media trial is injustice in itself. I find it really deceitful when I see lines like "what will you tell the Nigerian soldiers that didnt have weapons to fight and were killed because Dasuki shared the arms money". That is nothing but propaganda and trying to appeal to sentiments to push a narrative. If that were the case, what has the same military been using to fight BH in the last 8 months since Buhari has not bought any new weapons? What weapons did the army use to push back BH prior to the 2015 elections? Did they push BH back with their bare hands too? Even Lie Mohammed claims BH has been defeated. With which weapons did the army defeat BH? With their bare hands?
It is important we put all these straight so we dont fall for cheap propoaganda by a government that has completely lost its way. The same government that claims they are fighting corruption came out with a terrible corruption laden budget where they intended to connect cables from the President's residence to the drivers residence with N300 million. In fact, the budget of yams was so laden with coruption that they had to shamelessly withdraw it.
The world has changed. If the current government thinks they will continue to rule with propaganda, they should think again because they will be exposed again and again. Thank God for social media and the Internet!
@snailspeed i have no problem with all your points raised except that GEJ regime never indicted a single soul of corruption and/or stealing in his regime yet people were stealing like no man business. Shall we continue that way.
Let this administration go ahead in her anti corruption crusade and whoever succeed Buhari should also continue and even investigate Buhari's regime too. Stealing with impunity must either stop or reduce to the barest minimum in this country if we are to move forward. Nigeria has a lot of potentials but no conducive environment to perform.
The last regime is a disgrace by all the revelations so far, please sentiment apart. The money meant for infrastructure must be used for such. Health, Education, security are not left out.
Please let us all condemn corruption and stealing and turn a new leaf, my 2 cents though.
well analysed writeup there! but this raises one or two questions and those are:
Where does the money that was distributed to those people that have been mentioned so far comes from?
Or no money was ever distributed to anybody and the names being mentioned is part of the propaganda?
But mind you, not one of those people, despite realising the implications of the scandal on their political career denied to have collected money from the last administration.
