unphilaz:
I was reading a discussion between 2 nairalander and one mentioned that the koran stated that "Allah is the greatest deceiver". I was like what So googling i came across this video which further brought out the real word "makr" which means to "deceive" so how can you explain this even the site which is pro muslim agrees with the direct translation of deceiving http://www.answering-christianity.com/is_allah_greatest_of_all_deceivers.htm


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSSdyUO9R58

Am confused that such should be in "HOLY" koran!!!

hockeyoilers:
The verse in question is Quran 3:54

The term khayru al-makireen is first used in verse 3:54 of the Quran:

And they schemed [against Jesus] and God schemed [against them], but God is the best schemer

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The context of this verse can be found in Tafsir Al-Jalalayn, as follows:

God says: And they, the disbelievers among the Children of Israel, schemed, against Jesus, by assigning someone to assassinate him; and God schemed, by casting the likeness of Jesus onto the person who intended to kill him, and so they killed him, while Jesus was raised up into heaven; and God is the best of schemers, most knowledgeable of him [Jesus].

Some killers schemed against Jesus, and so God schemed against the killers to fool them. God made someone else look like Jesus–a willing martyr, by the way–and the killers murdered him instead (don’t worry, he is promised heaven).

So, that is the context in which God “schemed.”

hockeyoilers:
In Bible we see same thing


Jeremiah 4:10 Then I said, “O Sovereign LORD, the people have been deceived by what you said, for you promised peace for Jerusalem. But the sword is held at their throats!”

hockeyoilers:

Another Bible example


God deceived so that a “besieging army” could carry out its war of conquest. Similarly, God will delude people in 2 Thessalonians 2:11 so that Jesus can kill and destroy them

unphilaz:
I was reading a discussion between 2 nairalander and one mentioned that the koran stated that "Allah is the greatest deceiver". I was like what So googling i came across this video which further brought out the real word "makr" which means to "deceive" so how can you explain this even the site which is pro muslim agrees with the direct translation of deceiving http://www.answering-christianity.com/is_allah_greatest_of_all_deceivers.htm


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSSdyUO9R58

Am confused that such should be in "HOLY" koran!!!

DeathStroke007:







May wrath of Allah be upon you... May Allah never forgive you....


I have known you to be irrational and very dumb, even with clear proof at your front, with best explanation, you won't still understand...



FOR THE FACT THAT YOU LIE AGAINST QURAN.. . YOU LIE AGAINST OUR CREATOR ALLAH... MAY YOU NEVER SEE HIS MERCY IN THIS LIFE, GRAVE AND HEREAFTER

Slikbae:
You don't understand. Allah has no power to forgive.

Bakrabas:
i think the op unphilaz is the type with feather brain,visible 2 d blind and audible 2 d deaf dat ur tinkin faculty is suffering 4rm hemispherectomy and ramuseen.

anytym u pple r quotin d qur'an wrong im always happy wit joy 2 open d qur'an n check bcoz Allah says "He is one guiding the qur'an" against d pple lyk u. "do they not consider the qur'an with care,had it been is from other than Allah surely they would have found therein contradiction" d qur'an witot versions,no edition.

to u op u quoted d qur'an 3:54 wrong bt diz z wat is dere "and they (disbelievers) plotted (to kill Isa ( Jesus A.S),and Allah Plotted too.And Allah is the best of those who plot" try 2 read 55 too...eyin olote,the enemy of Jesus and Muhammad

analice107:


If Allah the deceiver is the one guiding the Koran, why do you kill infidels who touches it? Are you now Allah?
When I was to buy a Koran, the Muslim who provoked me to buying it said to me, pls don't take it to the toilet, anytime you want to touch it wash your hands and other stupid idolatry rituals. I said, okayyyy, so this how to weaken Allah, so now anytime am pooing, I take it with me, drop it on the floor step on it as am pooing, after which, I will pick it up with my unwashed hands. Every time, except I forget. Nothing has happened to me. I just need it in my shelve, if not I would have burnt it up, and I will with time. Tear it up page by page and clean by babies ass. Dead god who is kept alive by blood shed.

analice107:


If Allah the deceiver is the one guiding the Koran, why do you kill infidels who touches it? Are you now Allah?
When I was to buy a Koran, the Muslim who provoked me to buying it said to me, pls don't take it to the toilet, anytime you want to touch it wash your hands and other stupid idolatry rituals. I said, okayyyy, so this how to weaken Allah, so now anytime am pooing, I take it with me, drop it on the floor step on it as am pooing, after which, I will pick it up with my unwashed hands. Every time, except I forget. Nothing has happened to me. I just need it in my shelve, if not I would have burnt it up, and I will with time. Tear it up page by page and clean by babies ass. Dead god who is kept alive by blood shed.

analice107:


If Allah the deceiver is the one guiding the Koran, why do you kill infidels who touches it? Are you now Allah?
When I was to buy a Koran, the Muslim who provoked me to buying it said to me, pls don't take it to the toilet, anytime you want to touch it wash your hands and other stupid idolatry rituals. I said, okayyyy, so this how to weaken Allah, so now anytime am pooing, I take it with me, drop it on the floor step on it as am pooing, after which, I will pick it up with my unwashed hands. Every time, except I forget. Nothing has happened to me. I just need it in my shelve, if not I would have burnt it up, and I will with time. Tear it up page by page and clean by babies ass. Dead god who is kept alive by blood shed.

DeathStroke007:







May wrath of Allah be upon you... May Allah never forgive you....


I have known you to be irrational and very dumb, even with clear proof at your front, with best explanation, you won't still understand...



FOR THE FACT THAT YOU LIE AGAINST QURAN.. . YOU LIE AGAINST OUR CREATOR ALLAH... MAY YOU NEVER SEE HIS MERCY IN THIS LIFE, GRAVE AND HEREAFTER

Slikbae:
You don't understand. Allah has no power to forgive.

Bakrabas:
i think the op unphilaz is the type with feather brain,visible 2 d blind and audible 2 d deaf dat ur tinkin faculty is suffering 4rm hemispherectomy and ramuseen.

anytym u pple r quotin d qur'an wrong im always happy wit joy 2 open d qur'an n check bcoz Allah says "He is one guiding the qur'an" against d pple lyk u. "do they not consider the qur'an with care,had it been is from other than Allah surely they would have found therein contradiction" d qur'an witot versions,no edition.

to u op u quoted d qur'an 3:54 wrong bt diz z wat is dere "and they (disbelievers) plotted (to kill Isa ( Jesus A.S),and Allah Plotted too.And Allah is the best of those who plot" try 2 read 55 too...eyin olote,the enemy of Jesus and Muhammad

Bakrabas:


Mchew with smiles crossing my face, a popular usa pastor called Jonah constituted mor evil 2 d qur'an dan u dos bt d aftermat of d man's actions ws mfecane.im quiet sure dt u r jst jokin n perhaps if u r telin true,i beg God 4 ur 4gvnes

unphilaz:



SO na me be shamon ... bros did you watch it with your thick brain since am feathered brain...

Bakrabas:


i'm sorry if i've approached you in a wrong manner.

Bakrabas:


Mchew with smiles crossing my face, a popular usa pastor called Jonah constituted mor evil 2 d qur'an dan u dos bt d aftermat of d man's actions ws mfecane.im quiet sure dt u r jst jokin n perhaps if u r telin true,i beg God 4 ur 4gvnes

tartar9:

why don't you do the same with your bible

DeathStroke007:







May wrath of Allah be upon you... May Allah never forgive you....


I have known you to be irrational and very dumb, even with clear proof at your front, with best explanation, you won't still understand...



FOR THE FACT THAT YOU LIE AGAINST QURAN.. . YOU LIE AGAINST OUR CREATOR ALLAH... MAY YOU NEVER SEE HIS MERCY IN THIS LIFE, GRAVE AND HEREAFTER