AnnaKareninaFan:
Following the statement credited to the Alake of Egbaland, Oba Adedotun Gbadebo that the Oba of Benin is the third in the ranking of kings in the South-West region, the Palace of the Oba of Benin has dismissed this as untrue. The Esogban of Benin and Odionwere of the Kingdom (traditional head), Chief David Edebiri, yesterday, made this disclosure, adding that the Ooni of Ife was a son of the Oba of Benin, and the stool of the Oba of Benin could not be compared with that of any Yoruba King.
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Here is a detailed academic research/write up abou the histrory of Kings in Yoruba, Ile Ife and Benin.

Has any Oba of Benin from history been a member of governing council at Ife? If yes. Why? And why must Oba of Benin’s head be buried at Ife if Ile Ife is not the source for the two tribes? Oba of Benin must be courageous to explain this fact of history.

It is often said that it is a taboo to bury a king in exile. Ile Ife from all indications and by having the heads of all the late kings of Benin and that of Oranmiyan himself buried at Ile Ife to this writer is the source of Edos and Yoruba and this fact must not be distorted with sentiments.

Full detail here

http://www.gamji.com/article4000/news4738.htm

I know this will definitely happen, but I never expected it to be so soon.
if that king wey nobody ask question don keep him mouth mute, we no go dey hear this thrash that can cause another century long trouble.

chowlade:

Ipod youth on rampage why r u so pained ?
D binis should go nd join ur zooafrans though lol Yorubas dont care.

Go and read d cheap story of yoruba and d binis formed by d Edo miscreants sud knw is totally false.

1.Oba is a yoruba world directly translated to "To reign over"
2.Binis is a yoruba word
3 . Edos bears yoruba names that they dont even know d translation
4 . Oduduwa, Iranmiyan, Eweka are yoruba names
5. D binis practices d yorubalands traditional religions

person like you should be mature enough to make a point without insult.

Ejemehn:



Binis are not yorubas. They have never been and will never be. If Cuba and Brazil are claiming Yoruba, so be it. But Edos are not Yoruba. They have never begged to be part of Yoruba nation and will never be.

If any time,u come to warri,let me know,one cat fish and any drink for you.

OPCNAIRALAND:


Let me show you the official title of your king. They are correctly called Omo n'Oba nEdo

...and oh, talking of colonization. Are you aware that no Yoruba monarch throne has ever been sacked by an outsider?

In 1897, did not Britain sack your king into exile?
How about in 1967, didn't that were called Ojukwu sack your king's sovereingty and declated youd land a subject of Biafra?

You live in a fragile house, you should not be the one throwing stone.

Their fcking king got sacked, exiled and died in exile.
What a pity.
Their house is fragile indeed.

sirthisthickkal:
some folks here who were born yesterday are already claiming they know more than history smh! comparing the oba of bini with any other western king is an insult of the highest order, if fact in terms of power and class he is superior to the rest. For those who are willing to learn more why not peruse the article below for enlightenment.
www.edofolks.com/html/pub133.htm

Is oba of bini empire superior to Alaafin of Oyo empire?

YourNemesis:


Exactly.
If one looks closely at the Yoruba and Bini Cultures, One sees that The etymology and Use of the word Oba is more enmeshed/Ingrained in the Yoruba culture that that of the Binis, which can only point to one thing.... the group and direction from which the word came into Benin's vocabulary.

Take for Example, ALL KINGS in YORUBALAND are known as OBA ALADE........ In the areas ruled by Benin, who else is called Oba, apart from the ruler of Benin city and Benin alone?
Even Auchi, Ekpoma, Urhomi that are other towns in the same Edo state, etc DO NOT call their kings Oba. I think original words for royalty in Edo languages are Ogiso, then Enogie, Ogie, Ovie etc....

In fact the King of Bini is not an Oba....he is a Omo n'Oba. They now want to escape their rightful position as a "begotten of Yoruba" and start classifying their king as Oba.

We havent given you authority to use Oba yet, stick with use of Omo n Oba.

aribisala0:
Please stop talking nonsense,also open a dictionary and check the word:"TRIBE"

According to your dictionary the word "Tribe" couldn't be superior to each other abi?
You need education bro, cos you've got attributed valliany that simply result from stvpidity.

k[b][/b]

OPCNAIRALAND:


We should ask them self, since they claim Oba is a recent adaptation by Yoruba to then tell us how we came about the name prefix.

Obafemi
Obayemi
Obadare
Obaseki

do u knw dat binis also bear...obaseki, obasoge, obadiaru, etc.

Onijagidijagan:
The word Oba is yoruba word why are these benin people lying this way. ..The first Oba was Oduduwa d last born of Lamurudu frm Ife

Binis are here to steal our culture like d IPODs...Iol

If u study history very well, u wil notice dat bfor d comin of d British, Yoruba kings were not knwn by d title "Oba". Rather, they were bearin various titles such as Alaafin, Ooni, Alake, Deji, Ewi, Olu, Baale, etc. Only d Benin monarchs were knwn to hav bin consistent wit d use of d title "Oba" frm d start as documentd by early Portuguese Explorers who visitd d empire in d 15th century AD! D title "OBA" is derived frm d Edoid word "OGBA" which translates to mean, "THE STRONG", "THE POWERFUL", "THE MIGHTY" or "THE GREAT"! D use of d Oba title by Yoruba kings was a later adaptation copied frm d Binis owing to d fame nd prestige of d Benin Monarchy. Nd also, don't forget dat d Binis conquerd nd ruled large parts of Yorubaland!

ERockson:
I smell IPOD hand in this

IPOB: The Yoruba nightmare. See how we get mentioned even when the topic is not relevant to us.
Proudly Imolite
Proudly Igbo
Proudly IPOB!

If d Oni deserve's it let bi[b][/b] [color=#000099][/color]

Kirigidi:
If u study history very well, u wil notice dat bfor d comin of d British, Yoruba kings were not knwn by d title "Oba". Rather, they were bearin various titles such as Alaafin, Ooni, Alake, Deji, Ewi, Olu, Baale, etc. Only d Benin monarchs were knwn to hav bin consistent wit d use of d title "Oba" frm d start as documentd by early Portuguese Explorers who visitd d empire in d 15th century AD! D title "OBA" is derived frm d Edoid word "OGBA" which translates to mean, "THE STRONG", "THE POWERFUL", "THE MIGHTY" or "THE GREAT"! D use of d Oba title by Yoruba kings was a later adaptation copied frm d Binis owing to d fame nd prestige of d Benin Monarchy. Nd also, don't forget dat d Binis conquerd nd ruled large parts of Yorubaland!

Bini Kings themselves were not known as Oba before Eweka, son of Oranmiyan gave them that title, because he didn't want to be called an Ogiso.....And he was right, as he was the son of an OBA, not the son of an Ogiso. That was the source of the Bini title (Omo n'Oba)
Stop twisting history

Dem done start now

The Esogban never said that what he simply said was taking the title of Oba by the yoruba rulers is pretty recent, as recent as 1950 and he gave his evidence with the meeting held in Benin around 1942 of western traditional rulers that none of them was answering "Oba" then that it was eleko,alake, oluibadan etc or so, please do re-read the article before you misquote him!

hupernikao:




YES!
Timothy Oluwole Obadare, Born April 1930
Chief Obafemi Awolowo, Born March 1909

So i guess the Chief need to recheck that statement

Sermwell:
do u knw dat binis also bear...obaseki, obasoge, obadiaru, etc.

Any name with Oba prefix in bini are juniors, i mean they are born after 1950's.
Obafemi Awolowo is a yoruba and a senior, he was born in 1909.

AnnaKareninaFan:
Following the statement credited to the Alake of Egbaland, Oba Adedotun Gbadebo that the Oba of Benin is the third in the ranking of kings in the South-West region, the Palace of the Oba of Benin has dismissed this as untrue. The Esogban of Benin and Odionwere of the Kingdom (traditional head), Chief David Edebiri, yesterday, made this disclosure, adding that the Ooni of Ife was a son of the Oba of Benin, and the stool of the Oba of Benin could not be compared with that of any Yoruba King.


Esogban,who is third in command in the palace of the Oba of Benin, said: “We wanted to discard this report as something that was not necessary at all. We do not see how the Alake of Egbaland suddenly woke up to think that the Oba of Benin is also a Yoruba Oba. There is no basis for such classification; Oba of Benin has nothing to do with the Yoruba Obas. It is simply unnecessary, unless they simply want to stir up an unnecessary controversy.


“We are not in Yorubaland. To be frank, it is because many of them are not willing to come up with the truth, the word Oba is alien to Yoruba monarchy; it is not part of their title from time immemorial. For instance, the one they call the Oba of Lagos, these are recent adaptations. In the 50s, there was no Oba of Lagos, what we had was the Eleko of Eko. That is the title of the King there. In Ibadan, you have the Olu Ibadan. You come to Abeokuta, you have the Alake of Egbaland. You come to Oyo, you have the Alaafin of Oyo. In Ilesha, you have the Owa-Obokun of IIesha. So no Yoruba monarch had as part of his titles the word Oba except the Oba of Benin.


“That word Oba is indigenous to Benin. It is only in recent times you find everybody bearing Oba. When the Western Regional conference of traditional rulers took place in Benin City in 1942, go and check the attendance, there was no other monarch in the whole of the Western Region then that bore the title of Oba, except the Oba of Benin. So it is an unnecessary excursion, an unnecessary attempt to turn history upside down by the Alake by classifying the Oba of Benin as third in the hierarchy of kings. Our own traditional history says that the Ooni of Ife was a Benin Prince who wandered from here to Ife, settled there and became the ruler there. That is the position, if they don’t know, they should send people here; we will teach them.


“We will show them landmarks. So this is unnecessary misrepresentation of history. Maybe the Alake wanted to mention a different place and not Benin. The monarchical rulership in this part of the world started from Benin during the era of the Ogisos. It was the son of the last Ogiso, Owodo, that wandered from here to Ife and he became a ruler there, carrying everything about the Benin monarchical system to that place. There is no basis for such classification. The Ooni of Ife by historical facts, is a son of the Oba of Benin, so they are not in the same class. The Oba of Benin is the only one that answers Oba, the rest don’t. But today, we hear Oba here and there, they are all recent adaptations. I am saying categorically that the word Oba is indigenous to Benin and not to Yoruba nation.”


http://dawntodusknews.com/ooni-of-ife-is-oba-of-benins-son-bini-palace-reply-alake-of-egbaland/

If Ooni of Ife is the son of Oba of Benin Why do Benin have more Yoruba speaking people and why 'Oba' is Used as a king Title in Benin ?
Hmmmm.......
Am just saying.......

Oranmiyan was the
grandson of Oduduwa a fearless warrior that
ousted the Ogiso dynasty and conquer Benin
Kingdom. Shortly afterwards, the Eweka dynasty
was founded by Oranmiyan. Oranmiyan spent
some years in Benin before returning to Ife to
subsequently establish a Yoruba kingdom at
Oyo . It is said that he left Benin (called Ubinu
those days) in anger, for its palace intrigues and
fights over power caused by the brother of the
last Ogiso, as synonymous with 'vexations'. On
his way home to Ife, Oranmiyan stopped briefly
at Ego, where he impregnated Princess
Erimwinde, the daughter of the duke of Ego, in
short order. She is then believed to have given
birth to a son named Eweka (also called
Owomika in bini dialect according to oral
tradition). Eweka happens to be the first Oba of
Benin, title associated with Yoruba Obas. So wat re we saying again coz d Benin pple doesn't followed history.

Why so much envy for the Yorubas. Are these ppl cra..zy? Well I'm not surprised. Ppl always envy ppl who are far ahead of them.

Ordinary small benin wey dey backyard dey form boss. Whether benin ppl like it or not, Yorubas are their BIG uncles/fathers/grandfathers. You don't accept, kill yourself. Na Igbo ppl self go dey jealous. And the funny thing is Yorubas don't give a pheck bout ya all. How many ppl even dey the benin Kingdom self.

XBLadez:

IPOD: The Yoruba nightmare. See how we get mentioned even when the topic is not relevant to us.
Proudly Imolite
Proudly Igbo
Proudly IPOD!

I see you, ipod nigga!
Na una we suppose dey follow drag matter, no be those inconsequential bini basterrds.
Biabia Kwenu!

sirthisthickkal:

oh! You mean the lies they have been ranting and spreading since time premordial?

who is this one,don't u dare quote me again so of bitterness

OPCNAIRALAND:


It is indisputable that Oba is a titular position and belongs to Yoruba culture, not Benin.

So why is King of Benin a titular Omo n'Oba (the descendant of Oba), can the Benin palace give us clarity on this?

the man already answered ur question! I think the wise question u shud assk is, what is the realistic and rational genealogy of Oduduwa, the founder and 1st king of the yoruba race? I don't want hear that unrealistic crap about him falling from heaven or from mecca in Saudi Arabia! That is buuuullshit! If u can substantiate where oduduwa came from then we ve no choice but to believe the narrative of d pple of Benin that Oduduwa was a prince of Benin who wandered to Yoruba Land and became a king over there!

WIZGUY69:



See you
How can a group of 30m people be extracted from 2m people?
think about it.

Read the story of the Egyptians and the Israelites?

Ismael (Arabs) and Isaac (Jews)?

Your answer lies there..

Tunami:
they should go to hell, we don't even need them in yoruba land, even people that are in faraway Cuba, Venezuela, Brasil etc. Are even happy to be called yorubas talkless them. Abegi. Iranu abasha, shiooor.

Has it gotten to d point of insults! Don't make me believe that d ibos are right about u pple!

NOETHNICITY:
the man already answered ur question! I think the wise question u shud assk is, what is the realistic and rational genealogy of Oduduwa, the founder and 1st king of the yoruba race? I don't want hear that unrealistic crap about him falling from heaven or from mecca in Saudi Arabia! That is buuuullshit! If u can substantiate where oduduwa came from then we ve no choice but to believe the narrative of d pple of Benin that Oduduwa was a prince of Benin who wandered to Yoruba Land and became a king over there!

Oduduwa has nothing to do with Benin. Oranmiyan is the anchor. Start chatting and stop chattering.

willibounce1:
Why so much envy for the Yorubas. Are these ppl cra..zy? Well I'm not surprised. Ppl always envy ppl who are far ahead of them.

Ordinary small benin wey dey backyard dey form boss. Whether benin ppl like it or not, Yorubas are their BIG uncles/fathers/grandfathers. You don't accept, kill yourself. Na Igbo ppl self go dey jealous. And the funny thing is Yorubas don't give a pheck bout ya all. How many ppl even dey the benin Kingdom self.

Tell them o!
The whole bini kingdom no reach only ekiti state for population.
How many be bini sef? 5m rats claiming superiority over 50m humans.
They need education fast.
Yoruba is a not a tribe Yoruba is a Nation just like ipod and a.boki them.

OPCNAIRALAND:


It is indisputable that Oba is a titular position and belongs to Yoruba culture, not Benin.

So why is King of Benin a titular Omo n'Oba (the descendant of Oba), can the Benin palace give us clarity on this?

. Going to that place(Benin) for clarification shouldn't be a problem nahhh. Go and they will tell you what you don't know. History is sweet when you know it.

Biafrarep:
The Arrogance of D people on D waste side is really nauseting. What the Alake said is very wrong. Now look at the heluva of insult he brought upon himself & his group. Chai, the Oba of Benin no get joy at all. 1st, he delegated the third in command to reply the Alake. 2nd, He told them that Benin people has nothing in common with them. 3rd, he said every tom, dick & harry now bear Oba in the waste even when D name is alien to them. 4th, he called D ooni his son & that they are not in the same class. 5th, D Oba voluntered to provide palace teachers that will educate the Alake or any other "Oba" on their history since they have lost touch. Finally, the Oba of Benin provided unasailable facts & figures to buttress all the points he made. LWKMD, our waste brothers should channel their energy in getting back Illorin that was forcefully taking from them rather than this shameful land grabbing attempt on D Benin people. This is called brutality in mortal combat. Wow never knew there were real & fake Obas!!!

Nwanne, idi wicked!

NOETHNICITY:
Has it gotten to d point of insults! Don't make me believe that d ibos are right about u pple!

Who cares what Ipods think..... lol
If you are an Edo man you will know deep within you what direction your history points to and who are your natural allies in Naija. (None but The Yorubas)

Ravenna:

Tell them o!
The whole bini kingdom no reach only ekiti state for population.
How many be bini sef? 5m rats claiming superiority over 50m humans.
They need education fast.
Yoruba is a not a tribe Yoruba is a Nation just like ipod and a.boki them.

Superiority is now by population?

Between China and Japan, who should best who?

When talking history, who should come first between Britain and USA?

OPCNAIRALAND:


You got it mixed up pardner.

Bini is a migrant group to Edoland. Binis are the State Rulers that emigrated from Ile Ife and ruled over Edoland.

The pre State, under rulership of Ogiso ended its dynastic power when the Ile Ife State Rulers arrived and established a new dynasty, cults and Statehood.
There is nothing in traditional Edo custom called Olokun. This was Yoruba cult, so was Ifa and Obatala, which the migrant rulers established and which you practice till today.

Yoruba did to Edo what Fulani did to Hausa, except our language persisted as the court vernacular until very recently....in fact right around the Independence of Nigeria...whereas Fulani adopted the language of the conquered.

Separate Bini from Edo sharp sharp! Edo is not Yoruba but Bini is part and parcel Yoruba and nothing you can do to erase it.

Lol, do you know they even have Ogun, Osun, Shango and Ifa in their traditional cosmology.
This Esogban should also come and tell us where those came from..... lol
We must reveal everything today.