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Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by triplewisdom: 10:41am On Feb 09, 2016
lovings:
Yoruba people are quite dubious and they can claim things that have never been theirs. Bini Kingdom is one of the oldest kingdoms in sub Sahara Africa. Yorubas are settlers with borrowed culture and their version of history does not add up.
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Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by YonkijiSappo: 10:43am On Feb 09, 2016
iHustle:


I laugh in Benin.

What does Oduduwa mean in Yoruba language? NOTHING. Oduduwa is the Yoruba corruption of Imadoduwa. The crown prince Ekhaladerhan, son of Ogiso Owodo, was maliciously banished from Benin. Upon arriving Ife, he became the king of Ife and renamed himself Imadoduwa, meaning "I did not miss the path to glory".

Benin history has visible proofs, unlike the many fables from Yoruba land. Sorry, but it's the truth.

Who told you Oduduwa has no meaning in the Yoruba Language, there are MANY MANY names that begin with Odu in Yoruba, examples Odumakin, Odufuwa, Odusola, Odubiyi, Odutola etc. Odu in Yoruba means the Mysteries of Ifa divination. The Ifa corpus is even called "ODU IFA"
Oduduwa is Odu da Iwa.... The mysteries that makes behaviour. Contracted to 'ODUDUWA" , as per the rules of many African languages when vowels follow in a word.
Keep lying to yourselves in that Benin.... first one Bini guy said It was Izoduwa, now, you are saying Imadoduwa.....lol.... next name you people will call him is Ogisoduwa.

Imado ko, Antelope ni.

Keep twisting it.... twist that history very well.

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Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by triplewisdom: 10:43am On Feb 09, 2016
Biafrarep:
The Arrogance of D people on D waste side is really nauseting. What the Alake said is very wrong. Now look at the heluva of insult he brought upon himself & his group. Chai, the Oba of Benin no get joy at all. 1st, he delegated the third in command to reply the Alake. 2nd, He told them that Benin people has nothing in common with them. 3rd, he said every tom, dick & harry now bear Oba in the waste even when D name is alien to them. 4th, he called D ooni his son & that they are not in the same class. 5th, D Oba voluntered to provide palace teachers that will educate the Alake or any other "Oba" on their history since they have lost touch. Finally, the Oba of Benin provided unasailable facts & figures to buttress all the points he made. LWKMD, our waste brothers should channel their energy in getting back Illorin that was forcefully taking from them rather than this shameful land grabbing attempt on D Benin people. This is called brutality in mortal combat. Wow never knew there were real & fake Obas!!!
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Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by IME1: 10:44am On Feb 09, 2016
so this beautiful day in Nigeria we cannot live in peace and harmony?
what shall it profit a man if where he comes from is superior to his neighbour's?
or what shall a man give in return from the fact that he was born into a group he chose not?
whoever caused this 7 pages so far thread that has caused so much hate posts and incorrect historical facts and unnecessary superiority complex should not be happy because those commenting (myself inclusive) would have used our time, energy and internet access to better life and ensure unity.
Coincidentally i read Ephesians 4:1-6 this morning which urges unity, tolerance and love! oh yes love! afterall Binis marry Yorubas & vice versa. So also do they interact in schools, jobs, sports, commerce & even entertainment.
Lets live in peace!
PS: don't waste your time in gossip, strife, bullying, abusing or ridiculing!

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Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by FuckTheMod: 10:44am On Feb 09, 2016
clefstone:
I stand with the Bini interpretation cause those people know their history and have preserved it. The Oba stil lives in a medieval palace unlike yoruba obas that their palaces look like my palour
Dumb!

So oba of Benin doesn't use any of the modern inventions?

People grow up...
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by absoluteSuccess: 10:44am On Feb 09, 2016
Omeny:

If Yorubas has these names u mentioned and many more, Edos has
Omozele,
Omozokpia
Omohude
Omoleme
Omodia. ETC!
Let's not insult and drag issues here!
In Conclusion, we are all one!
Great,
Please what does omo stand for in Edo language?

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Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by fejikudz(m): 10:53am On Feb 09, 2016
HartIse:
It's so painful that there isn't a way to screen out underage people from such fora.
Even the Queens of England, the Portuguese, and other Europian leaders have duly recognized the Obas of the ancient Benin kingdom from time immemorial. A kingdom that singlehandedly waged war on the British leading to the Benin massacre of 1897 and theft of countless artifacts and records from the Kingdom.
The fact you have the population doesnt mean you are more ancient, its like saying the USA is older or more culturally relevant than the UK.

seconded

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Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by aoshi: 10:53am On Feb 09, 2016
emmanuelpopson:
What we know is that the Yoruba
language seperated lingustically about
5000 years ago from the wider span of
its language family and it seperated
about 2000 years ago from Igala.
The Yoruba have a sphere that
encompasses no less than 5 West African
States
.
Furthermore; all archaelogical artifacts in
Yoruba Land date to FAR before any
dates that have been acquired in Benin.
The Benin People have always claimed a
descent from Ife via Oranmiyan.

Benin Kings were buried in Ife up till the
late 19th and early 20th century.
Up till the same period, the consent of
the Ooni was required for the crowning
of any Benin monarch.
Furthermore; the science shows that EDO
is part of the wider Yoruba Linguistic

The Ife Terracottas date to the 12th
century - but the first Benin Kingdom
which amalgamated all the Chiefdoms
dates to the 13th.
Previous to the Eriaduwa II; the
conservative idea about Benin origins is
that when the Chiefdoms decide to unify;
Oranmiyan was LOANED to them and
that he produced the dynasty of Eweka.
Oyo settlements are dated to about 1000
AD etc.
There is no need for these relatively
minor problems.
As far as I am concerned, the Edo are
today, distinct from the Yorubas,
regardless of whether they dynasties
originated from Ife or NOT.
It is also not prudent to speak of
Origins in such an absolute sense; as
the earliest Human fossiles of Homo sp
in West Africa were found near Akure,
dating about 10000 years back - we
might thus ask; the settlements in Benin
which Oranmiyan unified; what are there
origins? This is a mystery.
What we can say for sure is this:
1. The Yorubas HAVE Never at any point
in time claimed to be descended from
Benin.
2. The Benin up till the recent have
always claimed a Dynastic descent from
Ife.
The rest is mere speculation.
There are very few good books on
Yoruba History out there.
I have an advice for you - BEWARE OF
BOOKS WRITTEN BY PEOPLE WITH
ENGLISH NAMES REGARDLESS OF
WHETHER THEY ARE EUROPEAN OR
NOT; ESPECIALLY IF THE BOOK WAS
WRITTEN PRIOR TO INDEPENDENCE.
Many theories that have been cooked up
about Yoruba origins include Illustrous
Parentage Theories which attempt to link
the Yoruba to Egypt, or to the Etruscans
or to Atlantis.
The best resolution; as already put forth
by the Ooni is to go with the standard
mythological account pending a scientific
resolution.
This method is common all over the
world. In fact, most cultures claim that
they were the FIRST People on the earth!
The Yorubas believe that Oduduwa was
lowered from Heaven and he founded
the Earth. Period.
It is also worthy to note that all over the
world; the Ooni is acknowledged as the
de facto spiritual head of the Yoruba
. In
Cuba, in Brazil, etc - testaments to the
resilience of Yoruba culture; the Ooni
and the place and position of Ife are still
revered.
Oga, do not speak on things you don't know.
There is nothing like erediuawa II for a start.
Have you read any book on the Benin empire?
Why is a country named after Benin (pronounced bene, why is that?)
Have you read/heard the Binis' version of the Oranmiyan story?
Please do that. Hearing from both sides helps.
What's with the the squabble between the Alaafin and Ooni?
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by YonkijiSappo: 10:55am On Feb 09, 2016
absoluteSuccess:


Great,

Please what does omo stand for in Edo language?


Hhahaha, I would be surprised if he comes here and gives you an answer that does not have to do with the Yoruba language.

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Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by Dbisector(m): 10:56am On Feb 09, 2016
This call for history review, and I asked how many king and kingsmen truly know this history of thier very own native or others, most of them don't have interest or never growup here.
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by aoshi: 10:57am On Feb 09, 2016
YonkijiSappo:


Who told you Oduduwa has no meaning in the Yoruba Language, there are MANY MANY names that begin with Odu in Yoruba, examples Odumakin, Odufuwa, Odusola, Odutola etc. Odu in Yoruba means the Mysteries of Ifa divination. The Ifa corpus is even called "ODU IFA"
Oduduwa is Odu da Iwa.... The mysteries that makes behaviour.
Keep lying to yourselves in that Benin.... first one Bini guy said It was Izoduwa, now, you are saying Imadoduwa.....lol.... next name you people will call him is Ogisoduwa.

Imado ko, Antelope ni.

Keep twisting it.... twist that history very well.

Like twisting that Oduduwa came from the sky with a cock and sand ba?
Then, he came from Egypt, then from the middle east. I wonder if there are black princes in the middle east?

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Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by forgiveness: 10:58am On Feb 09, 2016
comos:

yes.
The Oba of Bini Empire is superior to alaafin of oyo

Now, let's go to the Oldest Empires in West Africa. Remember, i said Empires not kingdom hence i removed the kingdoms on the list.


The Oyo Empire (1400–1895) was a West African empire of what is today western Nigeria. The empire was established by the Yoruba in the 15th century and grew to become one of the largest West African states encountered by colonial explorers. It rose to preeminence through wealth gained from trade and its possession of a powerful cavalry. The Oyo Empire was the most politically important state in the region from the mid-17th to the late 18th century, holding sway not only over other Yoruba states, but also over the Fon kingdom of Dahomey (located in the state now known as the Republic of Benin).

Benin Empire (1440–1897), a large pre-colonial African state of modern Nigeria.

The Kingdom of Dahomey (1600–1900) was a West African kingdom in part of modern Benin

Kaabu Empire (1537–1867), a Mandinka Kingdom of Senegambia (centered on modern northeastern Guinea-Bissau but extending into Casamance, Senegal) that rose to prominence in the region thanks to its origins as a former province of the Mali Empire. After the decline of the Mali Empire, Kaabu became an independent kingdom.

Asante Union (1701–1894), a pre-colonial West African state of what is now the Ashanti Region in Ghana. The empire stretched from central Ghana to present day Togo and Côte d'Ivoire, bordered by the Sahelian Dagomba kingdom to the north (a sub-state of the Mossi), and Dahomey to the east. Today, the Ashanti monarchy continues as one of the constitutionally protected, sub-national traditional states within the Republic of Ghana.

Kong Empire (1710–1894) centered in north eastern Côte d'Ivoire that also encompassed much of present-day Burkina Faso.

Bamana Empire (1712–1896) based at Ségou, now in Mali. It was ruled by the Kulubali or Coulibaly dynasty established c. 1640 by Fa Sine also known as Biton-si-u. The empire existed as a centralized state from 1712 to the 1861 invasion of Toucouleur conqueror El Hadj Umar Tall.

Sokoto Caliphate (1804–1903), an Islamic empire in Nigeria, led by the Sultan of Sokoto, Sa’adu Abubakar. Founded during the Fulani Jihad in the early 19th century, it was one of the most powerful empires in sub-Saharan Africa prior to European conquest and colonization. The caliphate remained extant through the colonial period and afterwards, though with reduced power.

Republic of Liberia.
Toucouleur Empire (1848–1893), established as a jihadist stete bu Al hajj Umar Tall in present Mali, upon the conquest of the kingdoms of Segu and Masina.
Wassoulou Empire (1878–1898), a short-lived empire of built from the conquests of Dyula ruler Samori Ture and destroyed by the French colonial army.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_kingdoms_in_pre-colonial_Africa

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Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by YonkijiSappo: 11:00am On Feb 09, 2016
aoshi:


Like twisting that Oduduwa came from the sky with a cock and sand ba?
Then, he came from Egypt, then from the middle east. I wonder if there are black princes in the middle east?

That is not twisted history, that is the Yoruba myth of creation, where the world started in Ile-Ife.
Same way christians and Muslims believe the myth that Adam and Eve were the first humans created somewhere in first Garden which started in the middle East by God. And other world cultures also have theirs.

What is the Bini myth of Creation? , and why does Ogiso mean "Sky King" ..... which is strikingly similar to the original Yoruba account?
loool.... this guy does not know his own story.

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Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by honvalid(m): 11:05am On Feb 09, 2016
I agreed.
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by Segekesy(m): 11:07am On Feb 09, 2016
NOETHNICITY:
why re u behaving like an ibo man forcefully attching ather tribes to itself!
Yoruba's never forcefully attach anybody to itself do you know that in the same bini today there are some indigene still claiming to be yoruba forget about what this chief is saying, if you doubting me go to bini and verify, secondly go to Kogi state today the Okun's will tell you they are 100% from Yoruba's , maybe after 50years when they have gained dominance the same people will come to tell us that they are not from yoruba's they may even claim yoruba originated from Okunland. Somebody asked a question here that why do bini before now buried their dead kings in ile-ife?

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Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by fireforfire: 11:08am On Feb 09, 2016
Oba atokpeye.... iseeeeee!!!!!
Long live d oba of benin.
Na u we sabi... any oda Oba is a counterfeit esp d "oba of lagoon"

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Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by Josh316(m): 11:08am On Feb 09, 2016
AnnaKareninaFan:
Following the statement credited to the Alake of Egbaland, Oba Adedotun Gbadebo that the Oba of Benin is the third in the ranking of kings in the South-West region, the Palace of the Oba of Benin has dismissed this as untrue. The Esogban of Benin and Odionwere of the Kingdom (traditional head), Chief David Edebiri, yesterday, made this disclosure, adding that the Ooni of Ife was a son of the Oba of Benin, and the stool of the Oba of Benin could not be compared with that of any Yoruba King.


Esogban,who is third in command in the palace of the Oba of Benin, said: “We wanted to discard this report as something that was not necessary at all. We do not see how the Alake of Egbaland suddenly woke up to think that the Oba of Benin is also a Yoruba Oba. There is no basis for such classification; Oba of Benin has nothing to do with the Yoruba Obas. It is simply unnecessary, unless they simply want to stir up an unnecessary controversy.


“We are not in Yorubaland. To be frank, it is because many of them are not willing to come up with the truth, the word Oba is alien to Yoruba monarchy; it is not part of their title from time immemorial. For instance, the one they call the Oba of Lagos, these are recent adaptations. In the 50s, there was no Oba of Lagos, what we had was the Eleko of Eko. That is the title of the King there. In Ibadan, you have the Olu Ibadan. You come to Abeokuta, you have the Alake of Egbaland. You come to Oyo, you have the Alaafin of Oyo. In Ilesha, you have the Owa-Obokun of IIesha. So no Yoruba monarch had as part of his titles the word Oba except the Oba of Benin.


“That word Oba is indigenous to Benin. It is only in recent times you find everybody bearing Oba. When the Western Regional conference of traditional rulers took place in Benin City in 1942, go and check the attendance, there was no other monarch in the whole of the Western Region then that bore the title of Oba, except the Oba of Benin. So it is an unnecessary excursion, an unnecessary attempt to turn history upside down by the Alake by classifying the Oba of Benin as third in the hierarchy of kings. Our own traditional history says that the Ooni of Ife was a Benin Prince who wandered from here to Ife, settled there and became the ruler there. That is the position, if they don’t know, they should send people here; we will teach them.


“We will show them landmarks. So this is unnecessary misrepresentation of history. Maybe the Alake wanted to mention a different place and not Benin. The monarchical rulership in this part of the world started from Benin during the era of the Ogisos. It was the son of the last Ogiso, Owodo, that wandered from here to Ife and he became a ruler there, carrying everything about the Benin monarchical system to that place. There is no basis for such classification. The Ooni of Ife by historical facts, is a son of the Oba of Benin, so they are not in the same class. The Oba of Benin is the only one that answers Oba, the rest don’t. But today, we hear Oba here and there, they are all recent adaptations. I am saying categorically that the word Oba is indigenous to Benin and not to Yoruba nation.”


http://dawntodusknews.com/ooni-of-ife-is-oba-of-benins-son-bini-palace-reply-alake-of-egbaland/


TEACH THEM..... SCHOOL THEM....

We need to revive history lessons in Nigeria so that we can always speak the truth regardless. Till then, we will keep telling lies to our children and grand-children
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by aoshi: 11:09am On Feb 09, 2016
YonkijiSappo:


That is not twisted history, that is the Yoruba myth of creation, where the world started in Ile-Ife.
Same way christians and Muslims believe the myth that Adam and Eve were the first humans created somewhere in first Garden which started in the middle East by God. And other world cultures also have theirs.

What is the Bini myth of Creation? , and why does Ogiso mean "Sky Kings" ..... which is strikingly similar to the original Yoruba account?
loool.... this guy does not know his own story.

Clap for yourself. You replied intelligently right?
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by YonkijiSappo: 11:11am On Feb 09, 2016
[size=14pt]Heads of Former Benin Monarchs Were Actually Buried in Ile- Ife, Says Prince Isede[/size]

PRINCE Michael Isede, a grand son of the last Ogiso of Benin Kingdom and deputy national chairman, Community Development Committee of Oil Producing Communities in Delta State, says heads of former Benin monarchs were buried in Ife.

"The Ooni is very right in saying that Oduduwa came from heaven. Nobody can doubt it because we have it here in Benin too. The Bini people believe that God usually comes down to decide issues. What actually happened is this- the last Ogiso who was my great grand father was an autocratic ruler, he could tell Benin people that nobody should meet any woman for three months or eat for three days and nobody will dare contrevene his order. So the people were not happy with his dictatorship, they held a meeting and called the seven Uzamas to remove him. Evian was the brother to Ogodomigodo, both Oliha' sons.
http://allafrica.com/stories/200405100888.html

There you have it folks...... actual history corroborated by a true son of an Ogiso... Not all these modern born Benin history twisters that know nothing of their actual past.

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Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by Nobody: 11:11am On Feb 09, 2016
chowlade:

Ipod youth on rampage why r u so pained grin?
D binis should go nd join ur zooafrans though lol Yorubas dont care.

Go and read d cheap story of yoruba and d binis formed by d Edo miscreants sud knw is totally false.

1.Oba is a yoruba world directly translated to "To reign over"
2.Binis is a yoruba word
3 . Edos bears yoruba names that they dont even know d translation
4 . Oduduwa, Iranmiyan, Eweka are yoruba names
5. D binis practices d yorubalands traditional religions
u don't know what u re saying, d Benin tradition is unique, d most respected & its no second to any in d country... plus if u must know, there re only two kingdom recognized in d world.. Benin kingdom & united kingdom

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Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by Josh316(m): 11:12am On Feb 09, 2016
forgiveness:


Now, let's go to the Oldest Empires in West Africa. Remember, i said Empires not kingdom hence i removed the kingdoms on the list.


The Oyo Empire (1400–1895) was a West African empire of what is today western Nigeria. The empire was established by the Yoruba in the 15th century and grew to become one of the largest West African states encountered by colonial explorers. It rose to preeminence through wealth gained from trade and its possession of a powerful cavalry. The Oyo Empire was the most politically important state in the region from the mid-17th to the late 18th century, holding sway not only over other Yoruba states, but also over the Fon kingdom of Dahomey (located in the state now known as the Republic of Benin).

Benin Empire (1440–1897), a large pre-colonial African state of modern Nigeria.

The Kingdom of Dahomey (1600–1900) was a West African kingdom in part of modern Benin

Kaabu Empire (1537–1867), a Mandinka Kingdom of Senegambia (centered on modern northeastern Guinea-Bissau but extending into Casamance, Senegal) that rose to prominence in the region thanks to its origins as a former province of the Mali Empire. After the decline of the Mali Empire, Kaabu became an independent kingdom.

Asante Union (1701–1894), a pre-colonial West African state of what is now the Ashanti Region in Ghana. The empire stretched from central Ghana to present day Togo and Côte d'Ivoire, bordered by the Sahelian Dagomba kingdom to the north (a sub-state of the Mossi), and Dahomey to the east. Today, the Ashanti monarchy continues as one of the constitutionally protected, sub-national traditional states within the Republic of Ghana.

Kong Empire (1710–1894) centered in north eastern Côte d'Ivoire that also encompassed much of present-day Burkina Faso.

Bamana Empire (1712–1896) based at Ségou, now in Mali. It was ruled by the Kulubali or Coulibaly dynasty established c. 1640 by Fa Sine also known as Biton-si-u. The empire existed as a centralized state from 1712 to the 1861 invasion of Toucouleur conqueror El Hadj Umar Tall.

Sokoto Caliphate (1804–1903), an Islamic empire in Nigeria, led by the Sultan of Sokoto, Sa’adu Abubakar. Founded during the Fulani Jihad in the early 19th century, it was one of the most powerful empires in sub-Saharan Africa prior to European conquest and colonization. The caliphate remained extant through the colonial period and afterwards, though with reduced power.

Republic of Liberia.
Toucouleur Empire (1848–1893), established as a jihadist stete bu Al hajj Umar Tall in present Mali, upon the conquest of the kingdoms of Segu and Masina.
Wassoulou Empire (1878–1898), a short-lived empire of built from the conquests of Dyula ruler Samori Ture and destroyed by the French colonial army.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_kingdoms_in_pre-colonial_Africa

Good one! Let us start the movement to revive history so that our heritage will never be lost. I am for the true revival of unadulterated Nigerian History and we need to ensure it is preserved.
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by Nobody: 11:12am On Feb 09, 2016
chowlade:

Ipod youth on rampage why r u so pained grin?
D binis should go nd join ur zooafrans though lol Yorubas dont care.

Go and read d cheap story of yoruba and d binis formed by d Edo miscreants sud knw is totally false.

1.Oba is a yoruba world directly translated to "To reign over"
2.Binis is a yoruba word
3 . Edos bears yoruba names that they dont even know d translation
4 . Oduduwa, Iranmiyan, Eweka are yoruba names
5. D binis practices d yorubalands traditional religions
u don't know what u re saying, d Benin tradition is unique, d most respected & its no second to any in d country... plus if u must know, there re only two kingdoms recognized in d world.. Benin kingdom & united kingdom
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by forgiveness: 11:15am On Feb 09, 2016
the Bini chiefs, who had earlier requested for spiritual and political direction from Ife after the death of Ogiso Owodo of Igodomigodo were led by Oranmiyan. He however met opposition from the kin of the Ogiso, and was refused entrance into the City. Oranmiyan camped at a place called Uselu. His foreign style management didn't go down well with the chiefs and they usually spied on him, all this made Oranmiyan declare that only a son of the soil can cope with the attitude of the Igodomigodo people and called the land "Ile - Ibinu" meaning Land of Vexation. On leaving Ile-Ibinu(later Ibini, and corrupted to "Benin" by the Portuguese), he stopped briefly at Ego where he had an affair with Erinwide, the daughter of the Enogie(Duke), Eweka I was the result of this affair but by now Oranmiyan was far away never to return.


His foreign style means?

Benin means, Ile ibinu( ile= land, ibinu= Anger/vexation) in Yoruba language. Or is it also that also meaning in Bini language

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oranyan
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by MrPresident1: 11:19am On Feb 09, 2016
This thread pains me to the bones for the quantum of ignorance in it. 'Yoruba' is a mighty tree under which shade a lot of God's creatures find peace and accommodation.

For reasons of political expediency, as I so strenuously warned in a thread before, so many issues should remain in the background perpetually, so many people will not be happy with the truth, if you find it, please preserve society, and then point the way to any seeker who is looking for knowledge, you point the way, you do not break the secret. The true seeker will eventually find truth.

When elders attempt to interpret symbols literally, they will kindle the fire that will burn the world.

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Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by whytfaz(m): 11:19am On Feb 09, 2016
Don't be dumb Binis aren't part of yorubas read history instead of jumping like senseless E-diots, the modern day Benin was known as igodomingodo, the last igodo died without. An heir and women were forbidden from ruling, they heard a land was prospering and peaceful so they sent some chiefs to Ile ife to tell oduduwa to come and be their Igodo or Ogiso, he sent his son Oranmiyan when Oranmiyan came he married aa beautiful lady saw the land was full of angry people, in annoyance he name it ile-ibinu, meaning land of anger,the people of the land didn't know what it meant but with time it translated to "Bini". Oranmiyan said only a person born in the land could rule them he had a son. After he left and his son was grown he took the title of "Eweka 1" that's how the name Ogodomingodo was changed to Bini and modern day Benin, the Bini Dynasty never came from yoruba but was somehow related, even Oranmiyan knew tthe land was different from any he had ever been in he went back and became. The ooni of ife, the Bini people are normally filled with pride so issues like this will normally. Annoy them also like that cow that called us biafra we don't have any ties with them either we are one unique set of people love it or hate it.
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by seunajia: 11:20am On Feb 09, 2016
tayooluwole:


You are d one dat lack capacity for critical thinking. Obafemi and Obasanjo is a surname that keep jumping from generation to generation.... Olusegun forefathers also OBAsanjo as surname...you hear now ?

grin grin

A ma wa se nkan bayii o cry

Did you read what that guy wrote? He said the names with Oba prefix only came to existence in Yorubaland in the 50s. Yet he mentioned Obasanjo and Obafemi that were born years and years before.

Learn to read and comprehend, you hear? Now gerout!
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by NOETHNICITY(m): 11:20am On Feb 09, 2016
Segekesy:
Yoruba's never forcefully attach anybody to itself do you know that in the same bini today there are some indigene still claiming to be yoruba forget about what this chief is saying, if you doubting me go to bini and verify, secondly go to Kogi state today the Okun's will tell you they are 100% from Yoruba's , maybe after 50years when they have gained dominance the same people will come to tell us that they are not from yoruba's they may even claim yoruba originated from Okunland. Somebody asked a question here that why do bini before now buried their dead kings in ile-ife?
Although, am not Benin but I lived in Benin my whole life and unless u show us those tribes in benin that they re Yorubas am yet to see any! Maybe u re mistakingly referring to pple in Owan areas sharing bother with ondo state and pple in Akoko Edo area also bothering ondo! Those tribes are not Benins and even though some of them speak Yoruba they still ve their own languages and culture which is non yoruba! Okun pple proudly claim to be yoruba because they re Yorubas! I understnd a bit of Benin and Yoruba langauge and they re completely different!

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Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by comos: 11:21am On Feb 09, 2016
FuckTheMod:


Nonsense!

Where did you place the Alaafin of Oyo?

in the poo
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by forgiveness: 11:21am On Feb 09, 2016
Josh316:


Good one! Let us start the movement to revive history so that our heritage will never be lost. I am for the true revival of unadulterated Nigerian History and we need to ensure it is preserved.


You are right. We only need to know the truth. For this our country, i don't think our Government is thinking about it.
Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by nisai: 11:22am On Feb 09, 2016
Anje ekuru kotan oba Alaka tun gban owo re sawo.I wonder what made him to spew such rubbish at a time like this that we all are praying for unity amongst the yorubas.Some obas can't just restrain their mouth.Imagine, ranking himself among the top five obas.

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Re: "Ooni Of Ife Is Oba Of Benin's Son,Not In The Same Class"-Bini Palace To Alake by JIGHU(m): 11:22am On Feb 09, 2016
BROS omo n'oba DOES NOT MEAN THE DESCENDANT OF OBA .....STOP THE FUCKERY, ASK FOR THE MEANING AND DONT BE IGNORANT.....IT MEANS the CHILD WHO BECAME KING
OPCNAIRALAND:


It is indisputable that Oba is a titular position and belongs to Yoruba culture, not Benin.

So why is King of Benin a titular Omo n'Oba (the descendant of Oba), can the Benin palace give us clarity on this?

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