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Why Atheism Is A Religion (and Why Everybody Has Got Religion) by asalimpo(m): 12:03pm On Mar 16, 2016 |
Religion answers questions about man and his relationship with a Higher Being God. Religion answers and provides frameworks for many of life's questions: like - life after death questions how to treat and relate with your fellow man (framework) how spouses should treat each other (framework) office of spouses in a marraige (framework) Man and his relationship with his superiors (framework) What constitutes evil What and how to source for help during overwhelming (spiritual times) etc Every one has these question and every one answers them . There's no escaping these questions. So every one has relgion. Atheism constitutes an untypical religion because it has no external supreme higher figure that is known as God in other religions. It replaces this figure with the mind and science ! For what constitutes evil , questions of morality, It draws up its own philosopy and framework - e.g if it doesnt hurt anybody do it. And so on... One apparent thing with all religions (including atheism) is that, when another one is rejected, the defecter has to either subscribe to a new code of ethics or draw up one for oneself. We see that they are already frameworks in place , because we witness how life decisions and actions are carried out in line wit these frameworks. Religion is about life, one's relationship with a higher being, and so on. Everybody is alive, everybody has to deal with these issues and so everyone has religion. The components of any religion are definable and replaceable. One can replace the external higher entity with mother and father (most people unknowingly do - their parents word on any issue is final. They turn to their parents for spiritual guidance even in the adult years) it could be pastors, it could be talk show hosts (e.g oprah winfrey) , etc. Whosoever you seek moral and spiritual guidance from is God to you! And that person could be Ourselves - yes! We can be our own God! - It could be an idol - ritualists etc |
Re: Why Atheism Is A Religion (and Why Everybody Has Got Religion) by Nobody: 12:09pm On Mar 16, 2016 |
Funny times we live in... When religions claim not to be religions, but attribute atheism as a religion. It seems religion has become unattractive and repulsive to those who should treasure it most. That's a good start. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Atheism Is A Religion (and Why Everybody Has Got Religion) by taurus25(m): 1:51pm On Mar 16, 2016 |
musKeeto:[i]thank you....slow and steady demise..............@op atheism is simply disbelive in existence of gods, an atheist might not necessarily subscribe to science although majority do.....here's a definition of religion from google " 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Atheism Is A Religion (and Why Everybody Has Got Religion) by taurus25(m): 1:52pm On Mar 16, 2016 |
musKeeto:thank you....slow and steady demise..............@op atheism is simply disbelive in existence of gods, an atheist might not necessarily subscribe to science although majority do.....here's a definition of religion from google "the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.".......hence atheism cannot be classified as religion...............got it? 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Why Atheism Is A Religion (and Why Everybody Has Got Religion) by johnydon22(m): 2:25pm On Mar 16, 2016 |
musKeeto: Well said .. "Atheism is a religion just like OFFing the Television is another Television channel " 6 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Why Atheism Is A Religion (and Why Everybody Has Got Religion) by OgundeleT(m): 3:00pm On Mar 16, 2016 |
johnydon22:you nailed it. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why Atheism Is A Religion (and Why Everybody Has Got Religion) by Oluwaseytiano(m): 3:46pm On Mar 16, 2016 |
johnydon22:Wicked 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Atheism Is A Religion (and Why Everybody Has Got Religion) by Judas2013: 3:54pm On Mar 16, 2016 |
asalimpo: You said this crap due to lack of brain. May you be well soon 1 Like
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Re: Why Atheism Is A Religion (and Why Everybody Has Got Religion) by Richirich713: 5:06pm On Mar 16, 2016 |
Atheism is a terrible delusion, with very sad people, no purpose, as dawkin says : "no design, no purpose, no evil and no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference". |
Re: Why Atheism Is A Religion (and Why Everybody Has Got Religion) by ElCount: 7:12pm On Mar 16, 2016 |
It is written "the fool says in his heart there is no God" |
Re: Why Atheism Is A Religion (and Why Everybody Has Got Religion) by asalimpo(m): 10:45pm On Mar 16, 2016 |
musKeeto:What is the definition of a religion then? By my definition , atheism is one. |
Re: Why Atheism Is A Religion (and Why Everybody Has Got Religion) by asalimpo(m): 10:48pm On Mar 16, 2016 |
johnydon22: Atheism is as much a religion as christianity, in case you dont know. Atheism is a religion just like everybody with any form of income and expenditure , runs a BUDGET, even though some may choose to use a formal budget. |
Re: Why Atheism Is A Religion (and Why Everybody Has Got Religion) by asalimpo(m): 10:51pm On Mar 16, 2016 |
Judas2013:Point out the cra.p in it first. Or maybe you have nothing to say. How is atheism not a religion - a framework for regulating life and a source of spiritual answers. |
Re: Why Atheism Is A Religion (and Why Everybody Has Got Religion) by johnydon22(m): 10:57pm On Mar 16, 2016 |
asalimpo: K you win genius |
Re: Why Atheism Is A Religion (and Why Everybody Has Got Religion) by Zikdik(m): 11:57pm On Mar 16, 2016 |
asalimpo:Atheism can alternatively be defined as a lack of religion. I don't understand how a lack of something can be a kind of that thing. Is baldness an hair colour? 1 Like |
Re: Why Atheism Is A Religion (and Why Everybody Has Got Religion) by Redlyn: 12:28am On Mar 17, 2016 |
Zikdik: dont you know? "not playing sports" is a kind of sports and "not collecting stamps" is my favorite hobby 1 Like |
Re: Why Atheism Is A Religion (and Why Everybody Has Got Religion) by Redlyn: 12:29am On Mar 17, 2016 |
asalimpo: That's adding unnecessary irrelevant baggage to atheism. Atheism is not a "framework" and its certain not a source of spiritual anything. Atheist have necessarily only 1 thing in common: Lack of belief in god. Nothing else is relevant. |
Re: Why Atheism Is A Religion (and Why Everybody Has Got Religion) by asalimpo(m): 12:56am On Mar 17, 2016 |
Redlyn: Atheism or Atheists answer the question all sane living people answer and came to a conclusion. They define what constitutes morality and have a 'framework' for distinguishing morality. and so on... How is this different from what other religious people do? The difference is that the source to the atheist/intellectual atheist can be arbitrary and internal while adherents of defined religions have those answers and frameworks pre-frabricated and handed to them. Everybody has religion because everybody has life. And everybody answers these questions. What you may say is Atheists dont believe in any diety. But that is answering a spiritual question - "Who is God/Is there a supreme being?" Atheists say "Slavery is bad ... (and accuse the Bible God of it) " - that is a question of morality. They have a philosophy for defining morality . What is good , what is evil? That's a religious question . Is there life after death? - a spiritual question . (all religions answer this. So those atheism) Framework for establishing what is true - (christians : the bible , Atheists: science/physically verifiable evidence) So you see that all the properties and questions of religion are posed and answered by atheists and every human being on the planet. |
Re: Why Atheism Is A Religion (and Why Everybody Has Got Religion) by asalimpo(m): 1:01am On Mar 17, 2016 |
Redlyn:You first have to define what sports is ? I defined what religion is first, then showed how atheism conforms to one. |
Re: Why Atheism Is A Religion (and Why Everybody Has Got Religion) by asalimpo(m): 1:04am On Mar 17, 2016 |
Zikdik:Atheism is lack of belief in an external diety . Not lack of religion. By definition of religion, atheism conforms to one. They have authorities they subscribe too and proseletyze - e.g richard dawkins, is like a bishop cardinal. and go on youtube, you'll see them preaching. Atheism is a perverse religion. Look hardat it. |
Re: Why Atheism Is A Religion (and Why Everybody Has Got Religion) by Redlyn: 1:34pm On Mar 17, 2016 |
asalimpo: You make a lot of false claims here. Atheism does not answer any of these questions. Individual people answer these questions each in their own way. And if to answer these questions means to have a religion then every single person on the planet is following their own personal individual religion. If that's your definition, then fine. Atheists do not share any common ideology, or framework. There is no atheist manifesto on what morality is. Each atheist is free to define morality in their own way and still be an atheist. Each atheist can reject every single doctrine by another atheist and still be an atheist. Every atheist can disagree with every single thing that comes out of Dawkings mouth and still be an atheist. Only ONE thing unites atheists: lack of belief. "Who is God/Is there a supreme being?" Each atheist has their own view. Some say impossible. Others say I dont know. Yet other say its possible but I just dont believe. How can you claim atheist say "Slavery is bad" - where are you getting that from? There is no authoritative source that represents all atheists like a bible. So basically you are generalizing because of what some atheists have said. Some atheist say slavery is bad, others say its just survival for the fittest. You dont have to believe slavery is bad to be an atheist. There is no common religious, spiritual, moral question that unites atheist apart from a lack of believe in a god. Is there life after death? As an atheist my answer is who the feck knows? Everyone who knows is too dead to feedback. Another will say...impossible. Another will say yes, through reincarnation. Atheism in itself answers nothing. There is no set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader or holy book as is requisite of religions. 1 Like |
Re: Why Atheism Is A Religion (and Why Everybody Has Got Religion) by Kay17: 4:50pm On Mar 17, 2016 |
OP logic: No cat has two tails A cat has one more tail than no cat Therefore a cat has three tails. |
Re: Why Atheism Is A Religion (and Why Everybody Has Got Religion) by Nobody: 6:56pm On Mar 17, 2016 |
asalimpo:Is theism a religion? Apparently, being healthy is also an illness. |
Re: Why Atheism Is A Religion (and Why Everybody Has Got Religion) by Nobody: 6:57pm On Mar 17, 2016 |
asalimpo:Bro, atheist is a religion, bald is a haircut, and being apolitical is also a political party. 1 Like |
Re: Why Atheism Is A Religion (and Why Everybody Has Got Religion) by asalimpo(m): 12:32am On Mar 18, 2016 |
musKeeto:It depends on the definition. apoliticalness is a political stance. baldness is a hair-state and a defect. It isnt something the person willfully does. Atheism on the other hand is willful action based on a philosophy on spiritual issues which religion tries to address. You can choose not to participate in politics. Though you cannot escape the effect of politics except you escape the polity. But you cannot choose not to participate in religion. Because religion is tied to life and life principle and questions while politics is not so encompassing. laissez-faire is a leadership style. Though , the laissez-faire leader, is trying to avoid formal leadership as much as possible. Your comparison to political party is equivalent to denominations in a religious movement. |
Re: Why Atheism Is A Religion (and Why Everybody Has Got Religion) by asalimpo(m): 12:44am On Mar 18, 2016 |
Redlyn:I didnt make any false claims. You deduced that going by what I defined religion by that everybody has religion. That's true. Because everybody has life. Religion is tied to life. And provides the framework for answering life questions on spiritual matters and even non spiritual matters. I said, formal religions have these frameworks and philosophies pre made. So adherents simply subscribe and use them. Easy. Atheists, also have their own framework and guides. Many atheists follow a pre made framework, provided by other evangelical atheists. e.g popular vocal atheists, e.g on youtube , in the scientific community. While others have to create their own guidebooks. It doesnt matter. The frameworks have to constructed and used as scaffolds for building a life with. Everybody answers the question of religion. Every single person. So everybody has religion. |
Re: Why Atheism Is A Religion (and Why Everybody Has Got Religion) by asalimpo(m): 12:48am On Mar 18, 2016 |
taurus25: And what makes googles definition authoritative? |
Re: Why Atheism Is A Religion (and Why Everybody Has Got Religion) by Redlyn: 4:26am On Mar 18, 2016 |
asalimpo:I stated the false claims you made about atheism and you have not countered any. Everybody has a religion because everyone has an opinion does not make atheism a religion. |
Re: Why Atheism Is A Religion (and Why Everybody Has Got Religion) by Nobody: 10:34am On Mar 25, 2016 |
musKeeto: Being naked is also a way to dress. Without skin you would feel really naked...everything would fall apart.... A theist is a person who denies that God does not exist. A theist is a person who denies that naked is undressed. A theist is a person who denies that bald is a haircut. A theist is a person who denies that an a-political position is a political position. But an atheist...is without Gods, without clothes, without hair...but with politics...an atheistic agenda...an agenda that denies that the God(s) exist. Thats why so many atheists slowly fall apart, with their politics of unskinning, they lose their own coherence ;-) Where theists give me grey hair, atheists leave me bald. |
Re: Why Atheism Is A Religion (and Why Everybody Has Got Religion) by asalimpo(m): 2:15pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
atheists deny the existence of God but spend their life time evangelizing their "religion" while denying they got religion. hunh! |
Re: Why Atheism Is A Religion (and Why Everybody Has Got Religion) by urahara(m): 2:34pm On Mar 25, 2016 |
If atheism is a religion then the disbelief in muhammad is also a religion amuhammadism. |
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