Foreign Affairs / Re: How do you think the current Libyan crisis will end? by 2muchlogic(m): 11:44am On Jun 14, 2011 |
tpia@:
and guess what- even the media can be fooled:
Yes, very shameful, the 'gay Syrian girl ' turned out to be a married 'white American man' - never mind ![undecided](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/undecided.png) |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Hedge Funds 'grabbing Land' In Africa by 2muchlogic(m): 11:40am On Jun 14, 2011 |
morpheus24:
The issue here is not FDI capital inflow in the acquisition of land and leases but the terms of contract and negotiation.
What does Africa get out of the deal? If it involves a transfer of technology and modernization of the agricultural sector then I am all for it.
It is incumbent on the African leaders to device a strategy to leverage the inflow of this expertise, knowledge and capital. A case in point is China who upon allowing several manufacturing bases settle in their country per cheap sources of labor, have been able to duplicate the technology these transfers bring with them and in the long term are net beneficiaries of this exchange.
Very good point, I remember reading an article in the VOA site, heres a quote from it:-- [size=18pt]"[/size]Part of the reason why Lekki Free Zone is so attractive to the Chinese is that, the Chinese government is encouraging those companies which are shutting down in China to move out,” he added. “There are funds which the government has provided for these companies to encourage them to move out to come and set up their factories in other parts of the world. We have that market. Now the Nigeria government is also encouraging investors to go to China and probably buy those factories, which are shut down, maybe at a quarter of the price and bring them into Lekki, set it up and manufacture those goods which you know you have 100 percent market right here.[size=18pt]"[/size] |
Politics / Re: A Thread For Nigeria's Firsts by 2muchlogic(m): 9:23am On Jun 13, 2011 |
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Politics / Re: Exposing The Dumbness And Foolishness Of Nigerians. by 2muchlogic(m): 10:27pm On Jun 11, 2011 |
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Business / Re: Korean Investors To Lift Agric In Ekiti With U.s.$400 Million by 2muchlogic(m): 10:20pm On Jun 11, 2011 |
ekt_bear:
This isn't really about cleverness. It is about finding ways of boosting productivity.
Yes increasing productivity is a great motive, but can you give an example of where this has been done successfully, before in Africa? ekt_bear:
We cannot both refuse to take advantage of the opportunities available in Nigeria and also prevent others from doing so. That makes no sense.
I totally agree, which is why I said that there needs to be an encouragement drive at the federal and state level to encourage Nigerians to take full responsibility; If its so profitable why not? ekt_bear:
Granted, [size=15pt]it'll be necessary to ensure that you don't get ripped off[/size]. But it still seems important to explore the option.
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Foreign Affairs / Re: Hedge Funds 'grabbing Land' In Africa by 2muchlogic(m): 9:52pm On Jun 11, 2011 |
Sun of god:
Africa being colonized all over again.
I wonder how long it will be before a wave of famines hit the continent?
We just dont learn - and these corrupt leaders of ours will never understand the evil they have done.
Tell me about it! Its an internal and external attack at the same time ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) |
Business / Re: Korean Investors To Lift Agric In Ekiti With U.s.$400 Million by 2muchlogic(m): 9:07pm On Jun 11, 2011 |
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Business / Re: Korean Investors To Lift Agric In Ekiti With U.s.$400 Million by 2muchlogic(m): 8:18pm On Jun 11, 2011 |
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Business / Re: Korean Investors To Lift Agric In Ekiti With U.s.$400 Million by 2muchlogic(m): 7:58pm On Jun 11, 2011 |
aribisala0:
in life keep it simple. never mind bio tech. just feeding people is huge. do you go to the market. c
Yes I prefer a supermarket or online shopping not a dirty market with people haggling no; if you keep it simple and primitive how can you improve the crop yields and quality of food? |
Foreign Affairs / Re: African Union Body For An African Imf Director by 2muchlogic(m): 7:52pm On Jun 11, 2011 |
It looks like the next IMF leader will be Christine Lagarde, several African leaders declared their support for the French finance minister, and a potential rival declined to challenge her. ![wink](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/wink.png) |
Business / Re: Korean Investors To Lift Agric In Ekiti With U.s.$400 Million by 2muchlogic(m): 7:49pm On Jun 11, 2011 |
Katsumoto:
It is projected that the world will not be able to feed its population in another twenty years. Arable and fertile farmland will be more important than resource deposits. Europeans and Asians are forward thinking by grabbing the next most important resource after water, land.
There is no reason why africans cant invest in technology to feed its population and sell to these asians instead of them valuing african land at $2 per hectare. Believe me, there is a lot of money to be made from agriculture in the coming years.
Thats correct, The middle classes in the emerging economies are pushing the price of food through the roof. Africa has the natural advantage yet again, but unfortunately they lack the bio-technology, because their governments and private sector have NOT invest in it. For example, England has about 3 months of Sun thats it! Yet the power sector is investing in solar energy! How, the government is forcing the energy companies to invest; yet in Nigeria they not only cannot generate electricity, the government is not even serious about solar energy - WHY? Next the west will be supplying Ekiti with solar energy! Why can't the government encourage NIGERIANs to invest in MODERN farming? I have had my eye on this for a few years now and its obvious the bio-tech industry is going to be huge in the future. |
Foreign Affairs / Hedge Funds 'grabbing Land' In Africa by 2muchlogic(m): 7:01pm On Jun 11, 2011 |
[size=18pt] Hedge funds 'grabbing land' in Africa[/size] Hedge funds are behind "land grabs" in Africa to boost their profits in the food and biofuel sectors, a US think-tank says. In a report, the Oakland Institute said hedge funds and other foreign firms had acquired large swathes of African land, often without proper contracts. It said the acquisitions had displaced millions of small farmers. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-13688683 |
Business / Re: Korean Investors To Lift Agric In Ekiti With U.s.$400 Million by 2muchlogic(m): 6:45pm On Jun 11, 2011 |
OAM4J:
Whao! Interesting read. Every one should read it.
[size=18pt] Hedge funds 'grabbing land' in Africa[/size] Hedge funds are behind "land grabs" in Africa to boost their profits in the food and biofuel sectors, a US think-tank says. In a report, the Oakland Institute said hedge funds and other foreign firms had acquired large swathes of African land, often without proper contracts. It said the acquisitions had displaced millions of small farmers. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-13688683So many imbeciles on this thread, coming in and out of the thread taking about conspiracy theories and pessimism, you twits have got me laughing in korean again ![cheesy](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cheesy.png) |
Politics / Re: Will Nigeria Be Better Off Than This If Politician Invested Their Stolen Loot? by 2muchlogic(m): 5:15pm On Jun 11, 2011 |
Donlittle:
how comfortable will nigeria be, if our past and even new politicians invested the stolen loot in our country? Or will it be worser than this as a result of mismanagement? Since we know management in Nigeria is zero
I don't think the economy would be better off (higher GDP), but Nigeria would still be under-developed, since the looters lack ethics, vision and creativity. |
Business / Re: Korean Investors To Lift Agric In Ekiti With U.s.$400 Million by 2muchlogic(m): 5:03pm On Jun 11, 2011 |
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Business / Re: Korean Investors To Lift Agric In Ekiti With U.s.$400 Million by 2muchlogic(m): 4:51pm On Jun 11, 2011 |
jmaine:
Guess i was mistaken i could answer you and engage you in a tangible debate (not argument) .
A debate is a formal argument, so don't waste time trying to make a demarcation. jmaine:
you pass for a fellow who doesn't know how to read replies for his questions . . Did you see this below . . am convinced you just graze through posts without seeking for your answers and when you see one you force yourself to deny it . . I did post a lot of things, why pick out a few which obviously you have no strong footing to stand and dwell on, even retorting am defending GLO when it's operations and contributions are glaring, what a joke . .could it be the nairaland penchant to always win at all cost
Don't by a s.illy billy, You broke the rules by ignoring my questions and asking irrelevant ones. If you read my replies instead of your own, you would realize that I believe glo is a good company, well run and we should all be proud of it. I see it advertised on CNN regularly and they always promote Nigerian life and artists. But to operate in a Ivory coast (a war-zone), Ghana (dominated by Vodafone) and Republic of Benin (lol!) is laughable. [size=18pt] You simply lack the depth to respond constructively to simple questions – what a simpleton (laughing in Korean).[/size] |
Business / Re: Korean Investors To Lift Agric In Ekiti With U.s.$400 Million by 2muchlogic(m): 4:27pm On Jun 11, 2011 |
^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Exactly! This discussion has gone on for too long! if people could give straight answers then we could all learn a little. the issue is beyond Ekiti, its about Nigeria and Africa in general. Some, gullible ones on this thread keep waffling on about the Koreans will hand the project back to Ekiti after 3 years, hand what back? worn out machinery or their Korean brains? I wonder where Ekiti will have to get the spare parts from? let me guess ![smiley](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/smiley.png) But if we question anything, we are pessimistic. If africans cannot grow their own food and use their education in biotechnology to become more proficient then Africa's problems are deeper than the Atlantic ocean!!! |
Business / Re: Korean Investors To Lift Agric In Ekiti With U.s.$400 Million by 2muchlogic(m): 4:16pm On Jun 11, 2011 |
jmaine:
Moving in circles is not my thing, am not configured to endure endless and futile arguments . . . follow up my flow line and you will appreciate the fact that in weighing a problem you not only look at the pros and cons but you also look at where can be improved . .But people over played the negative aspects and all i did was bring appreciate all side of the divide and possibly give a reason as to why they seemed so . . And please in my posts watch out for the answers you require, cos they are always embedded in my replies . . .You need to be open minded to see them clearly . . .
I asked a question below and you dodged it , why?
GLO is a solely Nigerian owned company doing well in one of the most competitive industry in Nigeria. . IBB or no IBB, GLO is doing well, and i believe Mike Adenuga is the owner unless you substantially convince us that IBB owns Glo . . which i doubt . . Abacha, highly favoured Dangote, does that make Dangote a front for Abacha holdings ?
GLO signifies the Nigerian content absolutely in a field that was dominated by foreign companies and am content with the emboldened part since they contribute a lot to the GDP of my dear country Nigeria . . What more should i ask . .
You have not answered any of my questions constructively, now you attempt to bore the living daylights out of everyone by defending GLO and asking if I believe there are any good people left in government - what a joke! ![cry](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cry.gif) 2muchlogic:
Well I think you are contradicting yourself, on the one hand you accuse people of being pessimistic then you claim:
When will that moment be? There has never been good over-sight due to the absence of strong institutions therefore the skepticism is justified. GLO Babangidas stolen loot invested is a good NIGERIAN company, a good example of buying and implementing technology rather than inventing it. [size=17pt]However, contrary to its name it has NOT gone global I wonder why? maybe its due to the presence of stringent telecommunication regulations[/size]. ![wink](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/wink.png)
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Politics / Re: The Best Antidote To Tinubu's Alpha Betta - Jimoh Ibrahim by 2muchlogic(m): 3:40pm On Jun 11, 2011 |
blacksta:
nonsense = all the ones the government have been running where are they today.
2 x WRONG ≠ RIGHT |
Politics / Re: The Best Antidote To Tinubu's Alpha Betta - Jimoh Ibrahim by 2muchlogic(m): 3:39pm On Jun 11, 2011 |
Wizardofoz:
Good question.
I know he studied Law at Ife, not sure if he actually went to Law School?
And No, he is not an accountant. he studied international Taxation at Harvard; a certificate course I am thinking. Dont think it was a degree course, just some expensive padi-padi course to shore up his 'heavy weight' cred in 'Corporate Nigeria'
Reminds me of Fola Adeola, who claimed to have advanced his education at Harvard, with his HND from YABATECH. Talk about big waste of money. Smart Harvard, they love awoooooof like mad.
Thanks for the info ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) naija people and their dodgy qualifications lol! |
Business / Re: Korean Investors To Lift Agric In Ekiti With U.s.$400 Million by 2muchlogic(m): 3:31pm On Jun 11, 2011 |
jmaine:
Investment in the buried but highly profitable agricultural minefield is being considered for resuscitation in an inland state and [size=18pt]people are being overtly and in-considerably pessimistic[/size] . . . The same lands that has remained idle for years and intelligent minds keep asking us why are we crying about food scarcity when our lands are so fertile . . . It's like saying the likes of SHELL, and the other major players in oil and gas downstream sectors should have been prevented from coming to develop that sector simply because they would recolonize all of us . . .
It's a pity that we allowed our glaring tribal and ethnic lines dating pre independence(which provided an immense breeding ground for corruption and nepotism) to divert our attention from what we would have gained from the likes of Shell and co . . Wish there will also be an interest in mining potential of Ekiti state cos they are some useful minerals underground that could spring out good industries nearby . . [size=18pt]Foreign investment with good governing oversight will yield good results any day[/size] . . .
Well I think you are contradicting yourself, on the one hand you accuse people of being pessimistic then you claim: jmaine:
And the moment the emboldened part below is handled efficiently [/b]due to our evolving democratic experiment . .then i see no reason why we should chose to remain stubbornly stagnant than accept little assistance wherever possible while we learn and become [b]challenged . . . GLO is making a statement to that effect . . . We still have some good people in Government . . and hope you believe that ?
When will that moment be? There has never been good over-sight due to the absence of strong institutions therefore the skepticism is justified. GLO Babangidas stolen loot invested is a good NIGERIAN company, a good example of buying and implementing technology rather than inventing it. However, contrary to its name it has NOT gone global I wonder why? maybe its due to the presence of stringent telecommunication regulations. ![wink](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/wink.png) |
Politics / Re: The Best Antidote To Tinubu's Alpha Betta - Jimoh Ibrahim by 2muchlogic(m): 2:54pm On Jun 11, 2011 |
When did Jimoh Ibrahim become a "Barrister"? I though he was an accountant ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) I have been saying that we need some world class institutions to tackle most of the problems at present. |
Business / Re: Korean Investors To Lift Agric In Ekiti With U.s.$400 Million by 2muchlogic(m): 2:50pm On Jun 11, 2011 |
jmaine:
Investment in the buried but highly profitable agricultural minefield is being considered for resuscitation in an inland state and people are being overtly and in-considerably pessimistic . . . The same lands that has remained idle for years
Why has it remained idle for so long? maybe those who love the place so much on NL can tell us why ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) jmaine:
It's like saying the likes of SHELL, and the other major players in oil and gas downstream sectors should have been prevented from coming to the develop that sector simply because they would recolonize all of us . . .
They have re-colonized Nigeria, are you unaware of their exploits? The pollution? Now large areas of land are USELESS. jmaine:
Hope we will also have interest in mining potential of Ekiti state cos they are some useful minerals underground that could spring out good industries nearby . , .
Typical, 'let foreigners do it for us' - whats all of the education in Nigeria for? Where are the companies? jmaine:
Foreign investment with good governing oversight will yield good results any day . . .
How often dose that happen in Nigeria? Do you think it will start in Ekiti lol! ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) |
Politics / Re: The One Move That Will Save Nigeria by 2muchlogic(m): 2:34pm On Jun 11, 2011 |
Ikengawo:
QUALITY CONTROL
our problem isn't corruption or incompetence. every country in the world is corrupt and we know damn well what we're doing too much to be incompetent because most of nigerias problems were created on purpose by nigerians
but one pattern is prevalent in our culture. If you give a man 100,000 naira to build a common traffic light, he will search the globe for the cheapest piece of rubbish possible and plant it on the street to that he can steal the money. he will seldom pay his workers leading to work delays, lazy haphazard work if not outright strike and mutiny.
look at nollywood. you can give a nollywood producer 1 million usd to shoot a movie and he'll give you 1000 extremely low quality movies. we have a wanderlust with low quality. THAT is the problem with nigeria. we don't want to build world quality hospitals, schools, or anything that works to the public benefit BUT we are totally capable of it cause the money and capability is there. If we weren't capable of building things of beauty and quality then why are the interiors of nigerian mansions the most consistently elegant on the entire continent? our mansions are marvels of architecture, but our school of architectures look like cement boxes. Even look at our governor's offices and Aso Rock it's self, nothing in the country can rival either of these things.
nigerians can only enforce quality when it comes to self servicing. they can only apply quality when it directly benefits THEMSELVES and themselves only, but see quality for the public good as expendable. This is why nigeria is backwards. we have EVERYTHING in the world, just at an inferior quality to the rest of the world.
Once we have strict quality control of everything from roads to pencils, nigeria can't move forward because our culture makes many of us void of the appreciation of public quality.
Quality control is primarily a MICRO-Economic issue, Nigeria needs serious MACRO-Economic reforms which can be created and monitored by WORLD CLASS national institutions. What will make them world class? Independence (Free from politics) Professionalism Transparency For example if the EFCC had the 3 qualities listed above Nigeria would be one of the least corrupt countries in the world. Empirical evidence shows that It takes around 10 years to establish a national institution, which means the EFCC could have been world class by now and a model for other African nations. How can we build strong institutions? By successive focused, visionary governments; unfortunately at present Nigeria has no political continuity. Most of the power is concentrated at the centre and each president raises the hopes of the masses with fake promises. the result is little or nothing to show after each term and more precious years down the tube. |
Foreign Affairs / Re: Libyan Rebel Group Sells First Oil To U.s. by 2muchlogic(m): 2:09pm On Jun 11, 2011 |
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Business / Re: Korean Investors To Lift Agric In Ekiti With U.s.$400 Million by 2muchlogic(m): 2:07pm On Jun 11, 2011 |
emmatok:
No Nigerian Bank can do that, in these Sanusi era.
Can you expand on that please? do you think food production is suitable for BOT? Can farmers from Nigeria not study bio-technology? |
Business / Re: Korean Investors To Lift Agric In Ekiti With U.s.$400 Million by 2muchlogic(m): 1:47pm On Jun 11, 2011 |
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Business / Re: Korean Investors To Lift Agric In Ekiti With U.s.$400 Million by 2muchlogic(m): 12:14pm On Jun 11, 2011 |
EzeUche!:
Africans can be quite foolish people. Selling off their land to the highest bidder. What other continent does this? In the Americas, especially in the United States, they protect their local farmers and will not allow foreign investors to purchase arable land in such land grabs.
If you foolish did not know, arable land is considered an integral part of a nation's security interest. Why can't Africans think for once. This is not about jobs and manufacturing. They are buying land to feed their own nation, not feed our own.
Exactly! They should go and read up on CAP, the Europeans produce so much food they have to burn it! Since WW2 they have made food security a top priority. North Koreans are starving and they think South Koreans can boost their Agriculture? If it was electronics or microchips maybe but Agriculture? What comparative advantage do Africans have apart form mineral resources and land? |
Business / Re: Korean Investors To Lift Agric In Ekiti With U.s.$400 Million by 2muchlogic(m): 12:07pm On Jun 11, 2011 |
This is great for Ekiti, Koreans have a long history of doing great things for Africans. The proposal states: The proposed transformation of agriculture in the state is expected to generate not less than 25,000 jobs in the first year and help boost farm yield in the state. wow! 25,000 jobs at the minimum wage, and it will boost the crop yeild too with their technology; Why can't all the education from Ekiti over the years cannot achieve that? Then it goes on to say: Soo-Moon noted that the project is aimed at poverty eradication, food security and job provision adding that a minimum of 125,000 jobs would be provided under the scheme in four years. The Koreans are coming to reduce poverty for people in Ekiti, and create 100,000 jobs in 3 years? Wow, thats what you call an Asian miracle. I think the people in Ekiti should vote for Soo-Moon as the next govenor of the state. He added that the investors would hand over the project to the Ekiti State Government after three years of managing it, explaining further that the scheme is also expected to provide free construction materials as well as tools for rural farmers.
The Korean business executive disclosed that SYNCTOP would buy all agricultural produce generated from the project.
It appears they love people in ekiti so much they want to employ, feed and teach them, whilst creating 125,000 jobs in 4 years – sounds too good to be true lol! |
Business / Re: Korean Investors To Lift Agric In Ekiti With U.s.$400 Million by 2muchlogic(m): 12:02pm On Jun 11, 2011 |
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Business / Re: Korean Investors To Lift Agric In Ekiti With U.s.$400 Million by 2muchlogic(m): 12:00pm On Jun 11, 2011 |
dodgy ![wink](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/wink.png) |
Business / Re: Korean Investors To Lift Agric In Ekiti With U.s.$400 Million by 2muchlogic(m): 11:48am On Jun 11, 2011 |
dodgy ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) |