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What Is Hell?a Place Of Torture?what Do You Think? by barondavil(m): 9:01pm On Jul 24, 2009
Many people has had different views concerning the term HELL.Some view Hell as a place of torment for evil doers while others has contrary opinion.What is the Bibles view point.I only want people who are willing to do research and not those that argue blindly or hearsay.Please such people are not allowed to make contributions
Re: What Is Hell?a Place Of Torture?what Do You Think? by Tudor6(f): 9:20pm On Jul 24, 2009
Hell is a dingy dark place of toture where the deluded christian thinks atheists and all his enemies will burn for eternity. . . .we all know they're nuts, don't we?
Re: What Is Hell?a Place Of Torture?what Do You Think? by SoWhat77(f): 12:31am On Jul 25, 2009
First off in order for Hell to have any real meaning then it would have to mean that wicked humans at death would then go into a place of fiery torment to suffer the rest of their lives. However many scriptures can refute this claim as somthing that is impossable.

If we first look at Ecclesiastes 9:5 It says, The living are consious that they will die but as for the dead, they are consious of nothing at all, neither do they anymore have wages, becuase the rememberance of them has been forgotten

Second if we take a look at Psalms 146:4 it says, His spirit goes out (he dies) he goes back to the ground; in that day his thoughts do parish.

We could also look at Romans 6:23 where it says-The wages that sin pays is death, but the gift God gives is everlasting life by Christ Jesus our Lord. The bible is clear in stating that death is the ultimate punishment for sin. It does not go on to say that even worse sinners go on to burn but it says the ultimate price we as humans pay for being sinners is death. Nothing more nothing less. I will continue in a moment
Re: What Is Hell?a Place Of Torture?what Do You Think? by SoWhat77(f): 1:09am On Jul 25, 2009
In the bible there are scriptures that speak of the wicked going to hell but at[b] Job 14:13 Job prayed to go to hell for protection. It said in that scripture -Who will grant me this, that thou may protect me in hell and hide me till thy wrath pass and appoint me a time when though wilt remember me.[/b]

If hell was a place of everlasting torment then why would Job have asked to be hidden there until God was no longer angry with him. Also at Job 1:8 God himself said that Job was a man blameless and upright fearing God and turning aside from bad. Job was simply asking to die. He wanted to die and was asking God to remember him or in other words resurrect him at a later time. Often times in the bible hell, hades, and sheole simply referres to the common grave. However what is it referring to when it speaks of the wicked going there and who are the wicked it speaks of?

At 2 Thessalonians 1 :9 it says what becomes of the wicked, when it says these very ones will undergo the judicial punishment of everlasting destruction from before the Lord and from the glory of his strength. So it is saying the wicked will be destroyed forever.

And who are the wicked that will be cut off or destroyed forever? At Psalms 9:17 it says - The wicked shall be turned into hell and all the nations that forgot God.

So in conclusion it is saying the wicked will be placed into hell in other words they will be destroyed forever and the wicked ones and the nations it talked about are basically everyone that in the end refuses to acknowledge Jehovah God as the supreme ruler of the earth and all those that will live on it.
Re: What Is Hell?a Place Of Torture?what Do You Think? by fajiboy: 3:10am On Jul 25, 2009
Please read this carefully because it is the truth of man's existence ;

Our existence is basically on fulfilling God's divine purpose on earth so as to remain in oneness with God, since we are a unit of a whole(i.e God) .This unit will either be united or seperated from the whole.
In recent days, we have neglected the original and ancient interpretation of the bible and other religious books(existing in the Torah) which was passed on to us from Moses.We as human have now accepted the modern form of interpretation disseminated by our so called modern preachers who give wrong and short sighted interpretations.
Considering these two biblical statements ;

1. "The wages of sin is death but the gift of God is eternal life through Christ Jesus".

2. "It is not the will of God for man to perish but to come into evalasting life".

The ancient interpretations as revealed in the Torah is as follows ;

1. The reward of excluding "total humility and total love" from your soul on earth is reincannation(a state of coming back to earth(an artifact created by God) having an environment of suffering, wickedness, evil, death, war e.t.c(an artifact created by man), thereby paying for our previous deeds. Remember the law of Karma still stands.

2. God want us to remain in oneness with him as a whole but our neglect to humility and love draws us back to earth.

NOTE:
1. Only divine messengers from God e.g Jesus Christ, possess the entire secret of the universe, we as souls on earth(i.e human) can possess these secrets if and only if we which to fall into the categories of the divine messengers , by living a life of total humility and total love.
2. Any where you here of sinners going to hell in the bible, it refers to the reincannation  of the impure soul to earth so as to face the reward of its impurity.
3. The law of Karma is a law that has existed since creation, it can never be changed.

DON'T BE MISLED!!!
Re: What Is Hell?a Place Of Torture?what Do You Think? by barondavil(m): 10:54pm On Jul 26, 2009
Imagine for a moment the following horrific scene:A person is being roasted on a hot iron plate.In his agony he screams for mercy but nobody listens.The torture goes on and on day after day without pause.Whatever crime the victim may have committed would your heart not in out for him?What of the one who ordered thetorture?Could he be a loving person?Not at all.Love is mercyful& shows pity
Re: What Is Hell?a Place Of Torture?what Do You Think? by Nobody: 11:09pm On Jul 26, 2009
barondavil:

Imagine for a moment the following horrific scene:A person is being roasted on a hot iron plate.In his agony he screams for mercy but nobody listens.The torture goes on and on day after day without pause.Whatever crime the victim may have committed would your heart not in out for him?[b]What of the one who ordered thetorture?Could he be a loving person?Not at all.[/b]Love is mercyful& shows pity

not even if He he came and died for you so you could be saved?
Re: What Is Hell?a Place Of Torture?what Do You Think? by barondavil(m): 11:09pm On Jul 26, 2009
A loving father may punish his children but he ll never torture them!Many religion teach that God tortures sinners in eternal hellfire.This it claims is divine justice.If that is true,who created that terrible place of eternal torment?And who is responsible for the agonies inflicted there?If such a place exist God would have to be the creator of it and he ll be responsible for what happens there!
Re: What Is Hell?a Place Of Torture?what Do You Think? by Nobody: 11:20pm On Jul 26, 2009
barondavil:

[b]A loving father may punish his children but he ll never torture them![/b]Many religion teach that God tortures sinners in eternal hellfire.This it claims is divine justice.If that is true,who created that terrible place of eternal torment?And who is responsible for the agonies inflicted there?If such a place exist God would have to be the creator of it and he ll be responsible for what happens there!

A loving father would sacrifice for his children but never his life.

you have an entire lifetime to take up the free gift of salvation . . . you really have nothing to moan about here.

where would you want sinners to be? No punishment for their lifetime of sin?
Re: What Is Hell?a Place Of Torture?what Do You Think? by SoWhat77(f): 12:01am On Jul 27, 2009
Are we not all sinners?
Re: What Is Hell?a Place Of Torture?what Do You Think? by SoWhat77(f): 12:21am On Jul 27, 2009
From a 2002 Watchtower regarding Hell

1[b]What happens to the spirit when a person dies[/b]? Psalm 146:4 says: "His spirit goes out, he goes back to his ground; in that day his thoughts do perish." When a person dies, his impersonal spirit does not go on existing in another realm as a spirit creature. It "returns to the true God who gave it." (Ecclesiastes 12:7) This means that any hope of future life for that person now rests entirely with God

Also What, then, is the condition of the dead? When pronouncing sentence upon Adam, Jehovah stated: "Dust you are and to dust you will return." (Genesis 3:19) Where was Adam before God formed him from the dust of the ground and gave him life? Why, he simply did not exist! When he died, Adam returned to that state of complete absence of life. The condition of the dead is made clear at Ecclesiastes 9:5, 10, where we read: "The dead know nothing . . . In the grave, where you are going, there is neither working nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom." l

Unending Torment or Common Grave?
Since the dead have no conscious existence, hell cannot be a fiery place of torment where the wicked suffer after death. What, then, is hell? Examining what happened to Jesus after he died helps to answer that question. The Bible writer Luke recounts: "Neither was [Jesus] forsaken in Hades [hell, King James Version] nor did his flesh see corHellfire—All-Consuming?ruption."* (Acts 2:31) Where was the hell to which even Jesus went? The apostle Paul wrHellfire—All-Consuming?ote: "I handed on to you . . . that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures; and that he was buried, yes, that he has been raised up the third day according to the Scriptures." (1 Corinthians 15:3, 4) So Jesus was in hell, the grave, but he was not abandoned there, for he was raised up, or resurrected.


Hellfire—All-Consuming?
Separating fire from Hades, or hell, the Scriptures say: "Death and Hades were hurled into the lake of fire." "The lake" mentioned here is symbolic, since death and hell (Hades) that are thrown into it cannot literally be burned. "This [lake of fire] means the second death"—death from which there is no hope of coming back to life.—Revelation 20:14.

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