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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 3:14pm On May 29 |
Enugu Rangers vs Bayelsa United We get a little glimpse of the super Eagles invite https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj55HzS6BKQ 4 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 3:23pm On May 29 |
Danielnino00: Unfortunately the out and out quintessential striker are becoming a dying breed. You have the intelligent forwards ambidextrous and inverted wingers. Technically proficient unpredictable and able to play 7,9 &11 at will and interchange with flawless ease. Ronaldo, Balotelli, Benzema are like that as well as Mane, Salah ( not great too great on the left), Ollie Watkins, Rashford, Mason, Garnacho, Palmer, Diaz, Olise, Eze, Raheem, etc I will add to that list Ademola Lookman without hesitation. I was particularly impressed by his first third goals π₯ in the Euro finals both taken with his left foot. With pin point precision for a player who is right footed. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 3:25pm On May 29 |
Marjoribanks: Thank you π In my opinion knowing how we are it makes it very easy for favouritism and godfatherism to thrive. And excellence compromised. Imagine if we were to select Nigerian origin players in academies in England alone π²π² Nwaneri, Chido Obi, etc 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 3:30pm On May 29 |
Going by his stats posted on twitter by a local league analyst seems worth a look at. One thing is obvious Finidi no rate Bruno. BascoVanVeli: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 3:37pm On May 29 |
chrisooblog: I don't either he is in a poor quality team Boavista and he still not a stand out player . His team just escaped relegation by goal difference and Bruno is struggling to get game time. Funny though he may have played more games than Awaziem who is also poor quality. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 3:43pm On May 29 |
charlesemeka85: Wow π³ let's believe it's not another cash strapped football team facing bankruptcy and relegation and can't afford to buy quality players. In life π€£ you get what you pay for, "Na money π€ kill better soup π²" |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:59pm On May 29 |
Marjoribanks: It can not be a waste of time when we have a lot of hidden gems littered around the country. We need a comprehensive method to make up for the gap in grooming our young talents. The open trials offers a system to help filter from a minute group. Keep in mind some of the U17 world cup we won came as a result of open trials recruiting system. We can't call what worked as a waste. A waste is thinking you can draft a list of best players or go to academies and find the best players. That is totally unrealistic. Finito. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 4:00pm On May 29 |
Boniface has been too sluggish for my liking in recent games and doesn't seem fully fit yet. Additionally, many Nice supporters are voicing concerns about Moffi's tendency to disappear in crucial games where his performance is mostly needed. komekn: 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:09pm On May 29 |
komekn: Can't work because of logistics. These guys are in teams and have schedules. You can't camp them for months to train. It will just be another selection and waiting for them to fly in for games. Also being at the mercy of clubs. Open trials in zones, screen, select and camp. Work with our winning formula. If the NFF are lost, they can consult Emmanuel Amunike to prepare a program and run a train the trainers program for young coaches to get acquainted with the system. Finito. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 4:11pm On May 29 |
lovewins:So this is what he said. It looks like he's saying he is not fixated on formation rather dynamism in play 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 4:12pm On May 29 |
No hidden talent without an academy at grassroot level. Even Osimhen, Nwakali etc were sponsored to attend the trails by their academies. Nobody will just make a National team from no where, not in Nigeria nor anywhere else in the world! I worked for several years at grassroot level football! TheGoodJoe: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:13pm On May 29 |
Marjoribanks: Makes his point even more important. We had a chance of getting what big clubs are doing to run or national team. No doubt I believe Domenec Torrent would have been an improvement to our team. He soaked knowledge. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 4:14pm On May 29 |
Let see how he would fair coaching another National team. Then we can talk! TheGoodJoe: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:17pm On May 29 |
Marjoribanks: So how do you scout all the academies without open trials? How do we get to watch and screen all the players in the academies and select the best of them? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:18pm On May 29 |
Marjoribanks: π Like if we have not seen coaches go from coaching clubs to doing well with national teams. π |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 4:23pm On May 29 |
lovewins: Finidi that went through Ajax system is the last person i was expecting to be saying that. Infact any of the golden generation of the 90s, if they say that, then they should be checked for instability upstairs. The other two, I don't expect any less. Won't be shocked if some NPFL managers feel same way. Reeks of mediocrity reloaded. They should not come and jeopardize the national teams from senior to cadet with such mentality o. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 4:29pm On May 29 |
Exactly my point! You select the best players from the available academy talent. What you're advocating for is an open trial where anyone can just walk in. No one does that in this day and age. If nobody recognizes your talent at grassroot level, you won't even make the trail in the first place! TheGoodJoe: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:35pm On May 29 |
Marjoribanks: Open trials. Let the ones recognized in the academies be better than those from the streets who screened. We have hundreds of local academies in the first place. How do we screen all? We do what worked. Our last U17 we won was not too long ago and we used open trials. How come all of a sudden, it has become rocket science? Hold open trials in zones, screen systematically and select the best. Anything less is self deceit. We need to wake up now. We have a golden opportunity of participating in four U17 from next year. The NFF should make open trials a priority. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:37pm On May 29 |
The NFF should outgrow mediocrity and incompetence. This is a jet age. With all that happened in the past, no clear cut media reports etc. They should prioritize media to keep the populace in the know and also help in preparation for the future. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 4:38pm On May 29 |
Which team has Doherty coached in his life? I do not really understand why people find it difficult to understand simple analogy. He should go listen to the interview again. Is he saying Finidi that played under some of the best coaches in the world does not understand what he is sayng? Did Finidi get his coaching badge from Nigeria coaching institute? Why the first sentence? Alfryd: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lovewins: 4:40pm On May 29 |
Odunayaw: So your obvious bias for Finidi won't let you call out the nonsense he said right? What is the difference between your excuse for him and what Manu Garba said? They all more or less implied the same thing. Don't get me wrong, Finidi is the Super Eagles coach and he 100% has my support, but that statement shouldn't be made by an u-12 coach much more a national team coach. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:44pm On May 29 |
Marjoribanks: I think Doherty expatiated on his point well. He believes and I agree with him that formations in this age is key or base of what ever coaching instructions a coach will pass. So when a coach calls formations just jargons, I think the coach should be pushed to further explain what he means by that. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 4:52pm On May 29 |
Can you name the zones Fanny, Tella, Garba, Amunike conducted their open trails? TheGoodJoe: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:53pm On May 29 |
lovewins: We had a related scenario with Manuel Pellegrini at Manchester City. To explain, he said he does not believe in multiple formations and equated them to the same thing. However, Pellegrini was saying that he works with the 4-4-2 formation and the dynamic changes in information and play equates to formations. Like in a 4-4-2, you have two strikers. If you ask one striker to troubling the defenders of the opposition and the second striker to drop deep and work with the midfielders, it becomes 4-5-1. Then if you ask the wingers to stay up top to attack from the flanks, it became a 4-3-3. In a nutshell, Pellegrini broke down why he disagreed with teaching multiple formations but 1. And let the players master dynamic interpretations of one formation. I hope Finidi is talking in such manner. Anything short is horrendous. I also hope when he gets his next interview he can bail himself. I have given expo from Pellegrini. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:55pm On May 29 |
Marjoribanks: I have told you Amunike organized open trials and showed a place where he held a trial with over 4,000 boys and screened from them. Unless you have another method for us screening thousands of eligible youths. Propose a better system you suggest. I am not NFF media officer. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 4:56pm On May 29 |
Meliforme:I was thinking Osimhen/Boni combination would work but now that you have emphatically said it will work, I am beginning to have doubts |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 4:56pm On May 29 |
Marjoribanks: You are yet to propose a strategy. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 5:00pm On May 29 |
Do you and Doherty have a coaching badge? So Manu Garba won the under 17 without a formation? Lost only one game at the WAFU without a formation? Context matters! TheGoodJoe: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 5:01pm On May 29 |
Marjoribanks: Wow π³ American wonder π I agree π― |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:05pm On May 29 |
Marjoribanks: Na wa. It calls for more explanation. I think Finidi especially need to clarify that statement. I don't need a coaching badge to understand the importance of formations. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:06pm On May 29 |
Marjoribanks: Can you break down what Finidi was saying, since it is proving difficult for many to understand and you understood it? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by joelsteron: 5:12pm On May 29 |
TheGoodJoe: They want Barabbas 1 Like |
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