tbaba1234:


Where Musa is right now will almost definitely destroy his career. Musa Muhammad should look for a club in Belgium or Holland, even if it is second tier at first and gradually make his way up.If he can't get a good club, come to Nigeria and start again.

I think, many Nigerian players have bad agents.. How does one explain Shehu Abdullah going to Cyprus after a decent olympics or Imoh Ezekiel going to Qatar?

The agents are just after which club offers the highest pay for them and not which club will best serve their client's career goals. At the end of the day, they end up in rubbish places.

A player like Echiejiele has a great agent.. From Braga to Monaco to Liege.. That is what a good agent can do for your career.

Icon4s:


No, TheGoodJoe is different in some regards.

1. He can argue a point to no conclusion but if he later finds out he was wrong after all, even if it is after 2yrs he would own up and acknowledge it.

2. His like for players are not born out of sectional sentiments.

TheSuperNerd:
Good Morning Chief Icons.... Arch-Apostle and Arch-guardian of the halls of Experience....

Oga Experience himself... I greet You Sir.....

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Biko.... E don do.... I understand you...

My own is Experience has a very important place and will always have that place no matter what (AND THERE'S NOTHING ANYONE CAN DO ABOUT IT) but a perfect balance between Experience and Youth precocity/precociousness is the BEST OF THE COCKTAIL MIX.

Experience alone CAN'T ALWAYS GET THE JOB DONE. That super special and Youthful Individual brilliance and Verve also decide big contests and win wars.

None should be overrated but just given their rightful place as we saw with the Nigerian team of the early and mid 90s.

That's my stance and we must remain open-minded about the experience/Youth mix.

.............. Meanwhile.....

Me, TheGoodJoe, and Yara Yara are eagerly waiting for Moses' post-match fitness reports like this........



Time dey go....

........
..... Happy Sunday y'all

safarigirl:
not necessarily

Is his dream not to play football? If he can't get a club to sign him within the first 2 tiers of a sensible European country, then he should come home and rearrange his career.

Rangers is a good club that will be getting on an International stage next year, which is a good opportunity for him to strut his stuff for the European clubs.

I bet he'll get more game time and better coverage there than in some rundown, racists-run, kindergarten club in the fourth tier of some basic European nation

BascoVanVeli:


The dream is always to get paid doing wat u love. Money is always a factor when it comes to jobs in general, people have mouths to feed.
The original comment was made with contempt, why would anybody expect Musa to drop from the best team in Turkey to Nigeria, when there are so many other countries in Europe. If the npfl is so good why we not clamoring for Mikel to come also. To me it was just a method to dismiss Musa, there was nothing good or ok about that comment.

This is good news. Great news! 
If his minders cannot find a decent club for him in a decent country, he should come back home and sign for Enugu Rangers.
Playing in the Npfl and Caf champions league could prove vital in his development. 
The structure in Rangers will be most suitable for him. Imama being with the national team will take care of him properly. 
I hope Imama speaks to him in camp.

Of course he should be playing in Europe. But if such opportunities aren't forthcoming what's his fall back option? 
Would you rather he hangs around in Europe playing for a pub team in the name of playing in Europe? 
Top clubs in Europe would hardly look the way of a player who couldn't hold down a spot in Turkey for Ba*******(spelling) 
Npfl should be his fall back option, no matter what you think about our league

I think the Nff should come to the aid of this young man. Such a big talent should not be made to waste away at a road side club in freaking Turkey. Something just has to give this coming transfer window.
The Nff should take a cue from Germany on how they handled the case of serge Gnabry at Arsenal. Immediately after the Olympics, DFB made a lot of noise then pressured Arsenal into letting Gnabry leave due to lack of playing time, using wolfsburg as a front to get the boy back to Germany.
Is it not time someone at the nff atleast pickup a phone and call his club's hierarchy to seek an explanation why Musa Muhammed is never even on their team sheet after pulling ranks to deny him an opportunity to play at the Olympics. For goodness sake, this guy is a future super eagles captain, someone should be putting a phone call now! .

Jefersoun:
Am saying the keepers position. I have no problem with new players we need a tested and trusted hand. Akpeyi has handled some tough games for SE in the past and did well against SA and Egypt. No tell me say we lost that match against Egypt ooh, because our attack wasn't that strong. Let me give you an example, Kemi Adeosun, is being criticize for our economic recession, even when it might not be her fault. You ask them why? They ask you what position has she held in the past? Some are even calling for Okonjo Iwela, due to are past position in world bank, that is what we call experience. Why don't we put a talented first class fresh graduate and see if they are not going to come for your head, eventually things go wrong. See, if you make me vex this morning eeh. I go come your house through internet connection, and if I eventually come, prepare for 3rd world war. Smiles, lol. Happy Sunday!

TheGoodJoe:


I am not Fearing you. It seems you have not heard about my boxing gloves.

As for Kemi Adeosun and Okonjo-Iweala, it is clear. The experienced one, Madam Okonjo-Iweala knows babash. Lied repeatedly while dipping her hands into the ECA to make it look as if things were rosy in the country.

She wasted a windfall of Crude Oil sales and landed us in this mess. Anyone criticising Adeosun for the current mess never sat down to calculate why we are in this mess.

Despite low Crude Sales, for the first time in recent years we are taking effort to curb our problems. For instance, we are making importers of petrol carry the burden of Forex for importation. We stopped the wastage of our Foreign reserves by encouraging local production of food and stopping importation.

This is a football thread. I would have talked further about it. But, this is a case of ability trumping experience hands down. Tiri Gbosa for Auntie Kemi.

By the way, take this one for Challenging me.

Jefersoun:
Ah ah wetin i do na, person no fit play with you again, see now you don remove all my teeth. I no fit talk again, but at least i still get fingers to type. Lol.
Back to the matter. I know is not her fault, that is why i said, might not be her fault. I know the circumstances surrounding our recession. But people her blaming her due to her lack of top experience compared to Iwela. This i don't want Alampasu to face or Rohr. Because, people are going to blame both of them, most especially if he makes mistake that is costly and we get a bad result. They will then ask you why didn't you go with a test and trusted hand, knowing the importance and magnitude of the game. Same people will start criticizing you and calling you names. This i think we should avoid.

TheSuperNerd:
Bia Sir Jefersoun.... Loollll

So na you wey mention "third world war"?? With theGoodJoe?? Huh??

E be like say u neva jam ooo.... Looollll Do you know who u contend with? Looooolllllll

Him boxing gloves no be here ooo... Berra just stay for house. Looollll

Me and Yara Yara are having lunch looking at you like this.....

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Yara Yara: Boss, this Mr Jefer neva know TheGoodJoe? **looks at him**

Me: Leave am, him go know soon. *sips tea*

TheGoodJoe:


Sorry. I will tell Yara Yara to fix your teeth. He learnt some dentistry skills watching TheSuperNerd unplug teeth from some skulls.

To the topic. I get the fear and criticism that goes with young players playing. They are mostly the target of criticism even when they are not wrong.

However, there are those enlightened enough to know right from wrong.

I feel we need the best legs and hands possible. If the youngsters are the best, we play them. Fortune favours the Brave. Shielding Alampasu from criticism is not the right way to make him grow.

I will take a quote from Van Gaal. Not precisely how he said it but close.

"I FOUND MY OWN RONALDO AND HIS NAME IS PATRICK KLUIVERT. I AM THROWING HIM TO THE LIONS TO SHOW THEM WHAT HE IS MADE OF."

No tension. Let us field our best team.

Jefersoun:
Ah i hope say no be from monkey skull, because if na from there, then i prefer to stay teethless. Lol
You said Ronaldo, right, he is not a keeper, so is position allows for mistakes, which most times does not affect the outcome of a match. But keepers position is way too important for us to gamble with in a high profile game like this. The keeper serves as the chief guardian of the team. So he shoulders so many responsibility of keeping his team in the game. So such position can get a new keeper gittery in a high profile match with so many things at stake. I don talk tire say i no dey against fielding new player, so far say him position no dey that sensitive. Ah don tire, make i go hide. Lol

TheGoodJoe:


A bigger gamble is playing with a weaker keeper in such a high profile game. We need the best goalkeeper in our goal.

Jefersoun:
Fielding Akpeyi is not a gamble. We have seen him in action for the SE against Egypt in a high profile game just as this. We know what he can bring to the table. There is this popular saying, which goes thus: "The devil you know is better than the Angel you don't know".

joseph1013:

I think you're fueling a wrong narrative. It seems like forgiveness puts forth names based on a regional bias on the surface, but when you look closely at ALL the names he puts forward, they balance out across the country. Let's not make a wrong label stick. Biko!

terzurum5:

Now you can see that he is not different from Sir Forgiveness.
As far as he is bent on a particular point. He does not turn back.

TheGoodJoe
Hmmmmmmmnnnnnnnn

forgiveness:


Well, when you say 'bent on something', I have always try as much as possible to be realistic about my views.


What TheGoodJoe has been saying is nothing new. It is resealable to say the best in camp should be given the nod.

Then, let us ask ourselves these questions.

If Ezenwa and Akpeyi are more experience than Alampasu, don't you think they will perform better than Alampasu during training?

Don't you think they will convince the coach with their overall performance during the camp?

If Alampasu performance better than them during ordinary camp with no tension, na for real match dem go come perform?


Na simple matter. It's expected that Akpeyi shows his level of experience in the camp for him to be favoured ahead of the rest but if he doesn't, why allow him to man the post?

Icon4s:


No, TheGoodJoe is different in some regards.

1. He can argue a point to no conclusion but if he later finds out he was wrong after all, even if it is after 2yrs he would own up and acknowledge it.

2. His like for players are not born out of sectional sentiments.

TheGoodJoe:


Yara Yara come and see Miracle. TheGoodJoe and forgiveness agree on the point.

forgiveness, take tiri Gbosa there.

joseph1013:

I think you're fueling a wrong narrative. It seems like forgiveness puts forth names based on a regional bias on the surface, but when you look closely at ALL the names he puts forward, they balance out across the country. Let's not make a wrong label stick. Biko!

EBUEHI NO-EAGLES SAGA: ROHR REVEALS FULL DETAILS
http://africanfootball.com/news/661952/EBUEHI-NO-EAGLES-SAGA-Rohr-reveals-full-details
by Staff Reporter
Sunday Nov 06, 2016. 17:04
Nigeria coach Gernot Rohr has revealed Tyronne Ebuehi will honour another invitation after he first rejected a chance to play against Algeria so as to focus at his Dutch club.
Rohr specially opened up that the 20-year-old ADO Den Haag defender as well as his parents had accepted he should honour the call-up for the Algeria match, but the player’s agent blocked the move.
“He’s a very good, young player, a right back. His agent did not want him to come yet because he is still very young, he has only played four, five games for the first team of Den Haag,” Rohr narrated.
“His agent believes that it’s too early for him to play for Nigeria, that he should first stablise at his club.
“But the player wants to come and next time, he will come.
“He said yes he will play for Nigeria at first, but then the agent came into the picture and made some observations.
I also spoke to his parents and they also wanted him to come too.”

Icon4s:


We know the truth about that. But lets jst move on.

goldfish80:

Is this for real?

tbaba1234:


Yea, i think there was a report about the fact that the statement was released by his agent.

The agent believes that this is not the best time for him to honour the invitation.

goldfish80:

His family should be speaking for him not the agent.
Things like this are the reason it's best to have a parent act as the manager of the player.

goldfish80:

Is this for real?

tbaba1234:


Sometimes, agents are like second parents to players especially youngsters. Plus, the agent knows more about the game than the boy.

krattoss:
I can tell u that Rohr can manage information and players.. was it keshi or oliseh.. I think they must have been having a beef with Moses and this ebuehi guy...

kudos to rohr... see how he managed the case of Isaac success, victor Moses, and even Mikel obi... I bet not all his predecessors can handle that amicably.