tbaba1234:


Whatever test was carried out for the 2009 team was unregulated making it subject to the things we do in Nigeria. Whatever test was done in Qatar was a private unregulated test not an Aspire academy test. They were not required to submit official results to any official body. This means that we can protect important players. Fortune Chukwudi was captain then, signifying his importance.

The likelihood of Fortune Chukwudi passing a valid MRI test at his age is very low.

There is a reason why we have not had scandals since 2009. The tests became mandatory.

Mickael2:

Quick question, did we have any scandal before that 2009? If I am correct Fortune has been the only unfortunate guy, so does that mean that Chrisantus and co were 17 in 2007 because there was no scandal then?

krattoss:
griezman that brings his atm mentality to the national team?
Dude slows counter like it's his right especially when they re a goal up..

No not for me

Mickael2:



Quick question, did we have any scandal before that 2009? If I am correct Fortune has been the only unfortunate guy, so does that mean that Chrisantus and co were 17 in 2007 because there was no scandal then?

tbaba1234:


My point still stands though..

These were private unregulated tests. That is what i think is deceptive. The facility where it is conducted is irrelevant. Equating the private test done by ourselves for Ourselves to a monitored controlled test.

The risk is lower in random tests because only a few players will get tested. You can certainly put in a few overaged players

In Nigeria, people take job tests and we still select those with connections. So yes, i will take a regulated test more seriously.

We only had started having FIFA mandated tests in 2011. Since then, look at the composition of players from the African continent that make the tournaments. They obviously look younger.

It is no surprise that FIFA made it mandatory in 2011 after the Fortune Chukwudi scandal

I apologize if i offended you in anyway, it was not my intention.

tbaba1234:


Before 2007, we knew some of the players were not under 17 and we could demonstrably prove that especially for those who had played in the league for long enough. People in the media knew.

For Instance, in the current under 20 team, we know several players that are way past 20. Graduates of Nigerian Institutions.

This kind of verifiable evidence is not available for the last few under 17 teams (2013 and 2015). In fact, in most cases, we can prove that they are the right age or close to it (max 2/3 years older). That is what MRI has helped us do. Cheating has been drastically reduced.

tbaba1234:


I have to comment here because this is deceptive.

There was no mandated MRI test by CAF or FIFA in 2009. Any test (If any) that might have been conducted was done by Nigeria alone with no independent party and hence subject to the Nigerian factor.

Currently, test results are monitored by CAF and FIFA experts because they are mandatory. In 2009, we only had random tests by CAF and FIFA meaning not every player was tested.

That you have to refer back to 2009 is testament to the success of mandatory MRI tests. We have not had any significant verifiable age scandal since.

goldfish80:



The MRI scan in 2009 was mandatory because of FIFA's random check. Every member of the team was checked twice by the Nff to make sure they didn't fall victim of FIFA's random selection.
Guys like Edafe Egbedi, Stanley Okoro, Terry Envo and even Omeruo were chronologically older than 17.

You call it a private test, but that same private test disqualified so many other players and the same private test have been used by the Nff ever since till date.
Was it not a private test that disqualified the players Uzoho replaced in 2013?
Why would you believe the Nff gamed the system by adding players who failed Mri with the risk of getting disqualified if they were accidentally picked up by FIFA's routine assessment team in a tournament Nigeria was hosting? It sounds ridiculous.

tbaba1234:


Is this a good move for his development?

He gets to play in the Europa league next season.

I have high hopes for his kid. We need new strikers in the Eagles. It is time to start introducing Umar, Awoniyi and others.

andrew444:


Lol Griezman a joy to watch are you kidding me?

Yes he is a world class player but sorry griezman is not a joy to watch

chrisooblog:
remember nigeria was hosting so it makes sense ''stuffs'' were done to help us. as long as the full screening was done by us and not FIFA anything goes. for all you know maybe the stories of players being screened out and dropped could have been a kite flown by the nff to give the impression we were serious about curbing age cheating. alot of funny things weren't on before we hosted that competition. host cities being dropped then reselected out of the blues.

tbaba1234:
This is one of the players of the current under 17 team. Save the picture... In a few years, someone will tell you, he is 40.

komekn:


This is not hearsay.

But let's look at the 4 teams left in the world cup. And consider thier star players, which league do the overwhelmingly largest number of top stars play.

That should answer your bad belle proposition and Bury it in the cemetery permanently.

goldfish80:


Subsequent U17s after 2009 were also tested by the Nff, maybe FIFA tests the players before the tournament but you have to scale the Nff's private test before FIFA ran theirs. I say this with certainty however, I stand to be corrected.

For the uptheent time and as a matter of fact, FIFA used MRI in 2009. Burkina Faso was also affected as some of their players failed the test in 2009.
FIFA claims the MRI is full proof but that haven't proved to be accurate by my findings.

tbaba1234:
OMG!!! Ebere Eze Pre season goal::

http://twitter.com/QPR/status/1016632543091838976

I hope we can start introducing players like him to the national team.

chrisooblog:
we are both still saying the same thing FIFA random tests could have been ''adjusted'' to ensure the random picked ones were the sure bankers who would pass the test. the 2009 test was still fraught with mystery, uncertainty and doubt. as for the 2013-2015 sets there were 3 levels of testing NFF, CAF then FIFA no test is ever full proof but the MRI scan judging from the results in the iheanacho and osimhen sets is definitely a major improvement.

look at this example you run a border post you randomly screen passengers for contraband you don't need to be a genius that many will scale through the system but get a body and luggage screening machine you will definitely see a drastic change

goldfish80:


I don't think it will be easy to influence a random selection. FIFA and continental affiliates also use random selection to test players at various competitions for doping.
Recall Rio Ferdinand's case.

tbaba1234:
OMG!!! Ebere Eze Pre season goal::

http://twitter.com/QPR/status/1016632543091838976

I hope we can start introducing players like him to the national team.

Mickael2:




Are you still trying to convince these guys that MRI is not 99.9% certain? It's very very funny that I had to argue that stuff with people who have absolutely zero knowledge of basic radiography but leave them to believe whatever they want sha, MRI is the ultimate, it has no error at all

edi287:

I've heard and read somewhere something about being able to beat it with Citrus or something? I know it seemed far fetched but the guy I heard it from was very convinced.

Certitude:

I ain't into that line of profession but with what you've read so far, can citrus alter it's possible outcomes?

ChrisKels:


When u talk about talented young Nigerians in the championship, Eze's name should be first on the list. This boy is a gem. I hope he makes our next list come September since we need personnel in the position(the AM) he plays best

komekn:


Ebere is the one that you know.

He actually played Firstly in league two with Wycombe Wanderers and then got his chance in QPR. A good player he is but this his first taste of the championship.

How many MOTM awards has he won What I'm saying is let's not over hype. There is a long way to go.

If our NFF scouts were not so lazy they would find players not on the radar of the English FA. Show love and get them linked in to the SE. I believe thay cam do it if they want and stop the favouritism approach thatis linked to players agents.

That's how we allowed Ejaria, Chuks, Ademola to fall through the hands of the NFF.

Now Ademola and Ejaria are becoming hot property.

goldfish80:

I put it to you that Mbappe will win the Balon dor before Neymar.

Mickael2:




Are you still trying to convince these guys that MRI is not 99.9% certain? It's very very funny that I had to argue that stuff with people who have absolutely zero knowledge of basic radiography but leave them to believe whatever they want sha, MRI is the ultimate, it has no error at all

goldfish80:


There's no deception here, I'm putting out what was reported and recall that 6 months to the 2009 U17 world cup, about 15 members of the supposed Nigerian team were laid off after failing they MRI test because FIFA introduced a routine check to try out players so to be on the safe side, it was better every player was tested because you don't know who will be picked at random just liked they do with dope test.
In subsequent tournaments, they stopped random check and made it mandatory to check every player.

http://www.thetidenewsonline.com/2009/11/07/eaglet%E2%80%99s-age-scandal-adokiye-sticks-to-gun/

cc Icon4s, TheGoodJoe

komekn:


Ebere is the one that you know.

He actually played Firstly in league two with Wycombe Wanderers and then got his chance in QPR. A good player he is but this his first taste of the championship.

How many MOTM awards has he won What I'm saying is let's not over hype. There is a long way to go.

If our NFF scouts were not so lazy they would find players not on the radar of the English FA. Show love and get them linked in to the SE. I believe thay cam do it if they want and stop the favouritism approach thatis linked to players agents.

That's how we allowed Ejaria, Chuks, Ademola to fall through the hands of the NFF.

Now Ademola and Ejaria are becoming hot property.

Triniti:
Dude what’s your fux with “hold up play” and “MOTM”? Is that the new criteria in chosing a great player?