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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 4:59pm On Jul 15, 2019
BascoVanVeli:
In hindsight somebody should have been at that post.
Gbayii bro. I thought am the only one who think so. Maybe Ndidi or Ekong should have been there.Akpeyi really bleeped up . All is in the past now sha.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Starboytwo(m): 5:07pm On Jul 15, 2019
I'm still in shock, cuz I was expecting extra time and hoping onyekuru to score

The goal was fast, only thing I saw was the ball bouncing and Algeria guys running upandan... I wished someone in a dark green jersey curled that one in.....

The better team won anyway.... Kudos to the Algerian.... That number 17 guy, Guardiola or whatever is a beast....

Oghenekaro Etebo is my Number 1 player in this tournament,
Awaziem
Chukwueze

I lost a 3k bet on the super Eagles

Offcourse I love the team and the performance of our boys, I'm not angry we lost, Algeria was the better team last night anyway, I'm just yet to recover from mahrez FK that's all... The thing week me embarassed


Do we need a new coach? Well after reading all the post here since yesternite, I think I buy into the idea of having a new coach with an offensive pattern, I mean even if we are not gonna win, let's see some Great attacking play mahn, and not some conservative pattern every time....

Maybe we should try something new, I don't have any problem with rohr, he has laid a very good foundation, now let's find a good quality coach, I mean an upgrade to rohr and let him "fine tune" this new crop of players....you feel me...

Maybe this is all Mr rohr can really give after all......

That Freekick's definitely the end of my Afcon... I'm not interested in the remaining matches...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by DrYa: 5:11pm On Jul 15, 2019
Starboytwo:
I'm still in shock, cuz I was expecting extra time and hoping onyekuru to score

The goal was fast, only thing I saw was the ball bouncing and Algeria guys running upandan... I wished someone in a dark green jersey curled that one in.....

The better team won anyway.... Kudos to the Algerian.... That number 17 guy, Guardiola or whatever is a beast....

Oghenekaro Etebo is my Number 1 player in this tournament,
Awaziem
Chukwueze

I lost a 3k bet on the super Eagles

Offcourse I love the team and the performance of our boys, I'm not angry we lost, Algeria was the better team last night anyway, I'm just yet to recover from mahrez FK that's all... The thing week me embarassed


Do we need a new coach? Well after reading all the post here since yesternite, I think I buy into the idea of having a new coach with an offensive pattern, I mean even if we are not gonna win, let's see some Great attacking play mahn, and not some conservative pattern every time....

Maybe we should try something new, I don't have any problem with rohr, he has laid a very good foundation, now let's find a good quality coach, I mean an upgrade to rohr and let him "fine tune" this new crop of players....you feel me...

Maybe this is all Mr rohr can really give after all......

That Freekick's definitely the end of my Afcon... I'm not interested in the remaining matches...
grin grin grin take it easy bro
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:13pm On Jul 15, 2019
andrew444:


Lol, so he even wanted musa out?

The players rohr played was better than the ones on the bench so i dont know whats he is trying to say.

Or is he trying to say if onyekuru and kalu had started it will be a better option?

Before nko! If say I get time I for dig am commot put for here mo we see.

No mind the guy, em no sabi ball.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:16pm On Jul 15, 2019
ChrisKels:


Can u prove that I wanted him out completely?

I no get time.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Starboytwo(m): 5:29pm On Jul 15, 2019
DrYa:
grin grin grin take it easy bro
baba d thing weak me embarassed
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 5:40pm On Jul 15, 2019
andrew444:


As for isaac success i disagree as you said he is not playing regularly, just say he is not getting the goals

Success started more than 10 epl games this season and he played better minutes from the bench so how is that not regularly ?

Success played 30 epl games from the 38 and the minutes was much, so you want him to play the whole 38 abi?

Just say success is not scoring goals, because the watford coach is giving that dude enough minutes

Okay. Success isn't scoring goals. Thus, including him is not a good idea. Message Delivered
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kennysville(m): 5:44pm On Jul 15, 2019
I recall during the pre world cup qualifiers. I recall saying the least of our worries is the goalkeeping department. We needed creative midfielders. It is amazing how we expect to win games comfortably when there are no creative midfielders. The sad part is we were winning ugly and we got sooo comfortable with it that we forgot that a formidable team will expose Gernot Rorh. One would have thought Gernot learnt his lessons from the match against South africa in Uyo but no. He extended it to his friendlies. We were here when he was being "loyal" to the ones that got him qualified for the world cup at the expense of quality play. We were there at the world cup where he benched iwobi against Argentina. We were there when he kept on experimenting with 4-2-3-1 before and during the world cup. We were there when the only games eagles won or played pretty well in were games in which he played 3-5-2. We were there when he stuck to lone striker systems to accomodate certain players. All we were saying was oh what a good man manager he is.

Well he has managed the team well. The only problem is he forgot what he was hired to come and do. Instead of actually looking for perfect fit for positions, he started converting players to makeshift. Hss anyone ever asked what his coaching philosophy is? All i see him do is make excuses and run his own self assembled squad down by making them play like minnows. I cant for the life of me imagine losing to Madagascar. Small time, we will say there are no minnows in football. How do you have good arsenals on the bench and play a certain useless formation that can only thrive with a proper creative midfielder and be relying on misfits (positionally) to cross balls accurately? Heck what do they even do in training, I am tempted to ask? Saddling Etebor with freekicks? Does he even hit target in training? Etebor has never been a 10, nor a central midfielder. He is an attacker. This Gaffer converted him and he became a tackler... and of course, we were happy. Yaay...Etebor is a baller! How long will it take us to realize that the problem is not in lack of talents. It is in philosophy and belief system. If Gernot rorh will say on air that there is no shame in losing to Madagascar, wetin remain?

Yall can be sentimental all you like.... its all good. But the truth is even if you give Rorh the 94 eagles set, he will never change his way of playing. There was the fire I saw in the team when they played against argentina in the friendly. It involved quick exchange of passes. One would have thought he would build on it but no. He stuck to lone striker upfront at the world cup even though it failed during all the friendlies leading to the world cup. Note the way supplies are being cut off even before they reach the lone striker. But alas, he kept on with the same methods. 1st half of every game is usually a bloody waste of possession as all we did was huff balls into the air. And this is the coach we are hoping to take us to the promised land?

It dont matter whether you give him 20 years, his methods are one and the same. He never learns. He wants to implement his own system, unfortunately it hasnt worked against strong teams. Wake up everyone and lets stop being sentimental and lets call it what it is. MEDIOCRITY! I cant say I am surprised. It even reflects in the way we voted our leaders in the last elections. We might as well say Buhari should carry on till forever.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 5:44pm On Jul 15, 2019
This is an international media.
Like I said he should have brought in Shehu to support Ndidi and move Etebo forward to Iwobi's position.
Shehu gives everything and he would have been of help to Ndidi with Etebo pressing them high up on the pitch knowing fully well there's a cover for him instead Rohr was seen on the bench drinking water when the Algerians were all over us in the closing minutes.
Sincerely yours no Nigerian coach would have behaved in such a non chalant manner.

Then remove Iwobi for Kalu, the game is there for the taking.
How can you suggest Mikel that has been losing balls and given away possession in such a fast pace game.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 5:45pm On Jul 15, 2019
darkelf:


Okay. Success isn't scoring goals. Thus, including him is not a good idea. Message Delivered

Agreed
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 5:46pm On Jul 15, 2019
forgiveness:


Before nko! If say I get time I for dig am commot put for here mo we see.

No mind the guy, em no sabi ball.

lol
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:47pm On Jul 15, 2019
Odunayaw:
One can't play with intensity if there's no "conducting" midfield. Do we have such? We were limited to long balls down the flank because there is no trust in the midfield.

My question is who would conduct that intensity you are clamoring for? Seeing that intensity without IQ would lead to gassing out

You are fond of drifting off points in your debate. I said, Rohr does not play with intensity and he had three years to have built and trained the team to play in an offensive fashion. To achieve this will require in depth scouting and training over time. This was not done and we need someone who will within a tight schedule start the journey to achieve this.

So what you are asking shows and stresses why I said we need to relieve Rohr of his duties and let someone with the skill and talent to horn the team to play in such fashion to take over.

The reason why we lack personnel to suit the system is because over time we did not train or play that way.

Finito.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 5:53pm On Jul 15, 2019
Starboytwo:
I'm still in shock, cuz I was expecting extra time and hoping onyekuru to score

The goal was fast, only thing I saw was the ball bouncing and Algeria guys running upandan... I wished someone in a dark green jersey curled that one in.....

The better team won anyway.... Kudos to the Algerian.... That number 17 guy, Guardiola or whatever is a beast....

Oghenekaro Etebo is my Number 1 player in this tournament,
Awaziem
Chukwueze

I lost a 3k bet on the super Eagles

Offcourse I love the team and the performance of our boys, I'm not angry we lost, Algeria was the better team last night anyway, I'm just yet to recover from mahrez FK that's all... The thing week me embarassed


Do we need a new coach? Well after reading all the post here since yesternite, I think I buy into the idea of having a new coach with an offensive pattern, I mean even if we are not gonna win, let's see some Great attacking play mahn, and not some conservative pattern every time....

Maybe we should try something new, I don't have any problem with rohr, he has laid a very good foundation, now let's find a good quality coach, I mean an upgrade to rohr and let him "fine tune" this new crop of players....you feel me...

Maybe this is all Mr rohr can really give after all......

That Freekick's definitely the end of my Afcon... I'm not interested in the remaining matches...

That number 17 guy is 33 years old hope you know that and he plays at the championship

I am sure if such player is in eagles everybody will say he is too old to play

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Jarus(m): 5:58pm On Jul 15, 2019
ChrisKels:


Almost everyone failed to look their way. Most people were rating the teams with more shinny stars

I predicted Senegal, Egypt and Morocco as favorites.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 6:01pm On Jul 15, 2019
Hmmmm why the cries calling for ROHR head?

Rohr should be sacked,
Rohr should resign,
Rohr is too conservetive


chaiii
for the last two Afcon where was naija?
As if that isnt enuf,
we are back and even make the last four, still the coach is too slow and conservative

continuity had been the bane of our SE, since time,
no coach had last 6-8 years with the eagles

well we are on the right track, no need to sack Rohr , he should continue, and yes conservately too

better to built with conservation, patiently laying a solid foundation, observing the strenght and weakness,
than to build wit flair and brashness
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 6:03pm On Jul 15, 2019
These guys clearly studied us down to the T. Need to watch the full game again

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 6:06pm On Jul 15, 2019
do4luv14:
Hmmmm why the cries calling for ROHR head?

Rohr should be sacked,
Rohr should resign,
Rohr is too conservetive


chaiii
for the last two Afcon where was naija?
As if that isnt enuf,
we are back and even make the last four, still the coach is too slow and conservative

continuity had been the bane of our SE, since time,
no coach had last 6-8 years with the eagles

well we are on the right track, no need to sack Rohr , he should continue, and yes conservately too

better to built with conservation, patiently laying a solid foundation, observing the strenght and weakness,
than to build wit flair and brashness
We have too many attacking players coming through for Rohr to be this conservative.
I'm one for continuity and would keep him till 2022 but let's not act like he's the second coming of Westerhof.
Besides off the field issues were responsible for us nor qualifying for those last 2 Afcons.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kennysville(m): 6:15pm On Jul 15, 2019
edi287:

We have too many attacking players coming through for Rohr to be this conservative.
I'm one for continuity and would keep him till 2022 but let's not act like he's the second coming of Westerhof.
Besides off the field issues were responsible for us nor qualifying for those last 2 Afcons.

Thanks for setting the records straight! Jah bless
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 6:21pm On Jul 15, 2019
godspeed:
Painful as yesterday's match was, I dont think we should hurt so bad as we are doing now. The eagles gave their all and I can tell u the Algerians too were as apprehensive as we were.

I think fate has a little to do with this just like Zambia's success in 2012. From the start of the tournament, Algeria looked destined to win the cup and I hv no doubts they will.

The eagles were not as bad as we tot yesterday, the matched the Algerians pound for pound, in the end, it was mahrez's brilliance that was the difference.

Like somebody noted earlier, the difference btw this match and the on in uyo is victor moses, if we had him yesterday we would have hurt them real bad.

For those calling for rohr sack , I'll say take a chill pill. Westerhoff too was horrible in his first few matches and couldn't will the afcon in his first two attempts.
Rohr made the most of what we had yesterday and it was good remember this team has no effective creative midfielder but still he was still able to use what he got very well.

To the fellow saying we should go for Madagascar, Algeria and Mali coach, see, I was particularly mad when Nigeria went for rohr, I tot the best option at the time was herve rehard but see what he turned the Moroccan team to.

In 2010, we tinkered with the idea of getting shehata but what did he turn to.

Jo bonfrere won us the Olympics and took us to the finals of afcon 2000, after that we all saw what a disaster he turned out to be.

Let's keep rohr for now and I'm sure he will surely improve.

PS I wonder why we always perform better in second half of every match.

our boys are always fearful and jittery in first half
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Goke7: 6:22pm On Jul 15, 2019
BascoVanVeli:
Honestly IMO Ndidi is not better than Onazi at the DMF position. At least at international level. He can barely win the ball back at times. Onazi would have bossed that midfield.

I've been thinking about this too
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 6:25pm On Jul 15, 2019
Starboytwo:
I'm still in shock, cuz I was expecting extra time and hoping onyekuru to score

The goal was fast, only thing I saw was the ball bouncing and Algeria guys running upandan... I wished someone in a dark green jersey curled that one in.....

The better team won anyway.... Kudos to the Algerian.... That number 17 guy, Guardiola or whatever is a beast....

Oghenekaro Etebo is my Number 1 player in this tournament,
Awaziem
Chukwueze

I lost a 3k bet on the super Eagles

Offcourse I love the team and the performance of our boys, I'm not angry we lost, Algeria was the better team last night anyway, I'm just yet to recover from mahrez FK that's all... The thing week me embarassed


Do we need a new coach? Well after reading all the post here since yesternite, I think I buy into the idea of having a new coach with an offensive pattern, I mean even if we are not gonna win, let's see some Great attacking play mahn, and not some conservative pattern every time....

Maybe we should try something new, I don't have any problem with rohr, he has laid a very good foundation, now let's find a good quality coach, I mean an upgrade to rohr and let him "fine tune" this new crop of players....you feel me...

Maybe this is all Mr rohr can really give after all......

That Freekick's definitely the end of my Afcon... I'm not interested in the remaining matches...

But ....but .... You went berserk telling all who wanted to hear here how you will flog Algeria by 3-1 ? Why the shock since yesterday ? Let me borrow a leaf and call you averagee pundit and your average team got phucked !!!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 6:40pm On Jul 15, 2019
forgiveness:

I no get time.
Then u no get yans
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Starboytwo(m): 6:46pm On Jul 15, 2019
hardwerk:


But ....but .... You went berserk telling all who wanted to hear here how you will flog Algeria by 3-1 ? Why the shock since yesterday ? Let me borrow a leaf and call you averagee pundit and your average team got phucked !!!
eiya Pls what country do you come from...... Kindly state your country so we can know if you are worth the time...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 6:47pm On Jul 15, 2019
Thank you for posting this tweet, my dear. It validates everything I have been saying since yesterday: Rohr was outcoached, short and simple. Blaming the individual players is sheer naiveté and short sightedness. If you watched yesterday's game, you'd realize that there was only ONE likely winner in that game and that team is: ALGERIA. In fact, even if they didn't score with that freekick, I am pretty sure that they likely could've scored in the extra time as well.

Rohr's only game plan was to pack the bus and hopes that the Algerians get tired in the second half or extra time grin


O pari

edi287:
These guys clearly studied us down to the T. Need to watch the full game again
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 6:55pm On Jul 15, 2019
Starboytwo:
eiya Pls what country do you come from...... Kindly state your country so we can know if you are worth the time...

I see a pained soul .... continue crying

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 6:58pm On Jul 15, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


You are fond of drifting off points in your debate. I said, Rohr does not play with intensity and he had three years to have built and trained the team to play in an offensive fashion. To achieve this will require in depth scouting and training over time. This was not done and we need someone who will within a tight schedule start the journey to achieve this.

So what you are asking shows and stresses why I said we need to relieve Rohr of his duties and let someone with the skill and talent to horn the team to play in such fashion to take over.

The reason why we lack personnel to suit the system is because over time we did not train or play that way.

Finito.
how did I drift when this is your own post

TheGoodJoe:


My criticism of Rohr has not changed. We have talents that can play with a high intensity but Rohr chose to keep us playing in a timid fashion.

I am talking with respect to the talents at our disposal .
With the talents at our disposal how do we play with high intensity when there's no conductor in the middle or even back

my problem with you is that you repeat one thing over and over with the hope it sounds more intelligent.
I asked you a simple question, how do we play with high intensity when a piece (Midfield conductor(s)) is missing?
Will Rohr groom one?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 6:59pm On Jul 15, 2019
darkelf:


Was that the same Onazi you saw at the pre-WC friendlies or at the WC proper?

Oga, no sane person would argue for Onazi in place of Ndidi whether as a starter or on the bench

Onazi should be called back into the team if he's fit.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 7:00pm On Jul 15, 2019
darkelf:


Onazi wasn't even included in the tentative AFCON list after the WC 2018. This shows how much he has regressed

He was out due to injury.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 7:01pm On Jul 15, 2019
Btw, why are our players so small? Just check those who formed the wall, they mostly look short

Compared to the Algerian defence, ours looked very small.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 7:05pm On Jul 15, 2019
edi287:
These guys clearly studied us down to the T. Need to watch the full game again
Its point blank simple. There's no way we'd beat Algeria with the system built around the kind of players we brought to the tournament. You might come off with the "..bbut we have attacking talents" . I say how would they attack if the middle can not join/connect with them

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 7:05pm On Jul 15, 2019
edi287:

We have too many attacking players coming through for Rohr to be this conservative.
I'm one for continuity and would keep him till 2022 but let's not act like he's the second coming of Westerhof.
Besides off the field issues were responsible for us nor qualifying for those last 2 Afcons.
Attacking players without the glue in the midfield is crass

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 7:05pm On Jul 15, 2019
Players that should not go to AFCON 2021 and FIFA 2022

Akpeyi
Ezenwa

Balogun
Ogu
mikel

Onuachu (Doesn't look like a national team player) but his height would have been a plus if he knew how to use it. Maybe he should be tested more?

Shehu should move back to the midfield. Etebo should become the new mikel.
Another creative midfielder should join that middle apart from Iwobi.

Secondly we need to draft Musa straight to either 9 or FALSE 9. The. MUSA I KNOW IS A GOAL SCORER AND NOT A CREATOR PER SAY.

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