Edopesin:


No mind Andrew

TheLoneCitizen:


This was Arsenal's first goal. 10 of the 11 players on the pitch touched the ball and it involved 18 passes.

They couldn't do this against Liverpool and needed two errors to score against them. Liverpool had 8 shots on target.

Manchester city had 1 shot on target. They were poor.

andrewbaba44:


If I don’t see Ighalo in the starting line up today then I will be supporting Chelsea

TheGoodJoe:


I am not critiquing Arteta. I have even congratulated him. He did what he had to do to win and props to him. I was correcting some that tried to make it look like he weaved some tactical magic and outclassed Guardiola. He did not he sat deep and worked with a strategy to win a difficult game.

Thank you.

Hanibal:

We can drag this for as long as you want,
Oga Guardiola's strategy for winning games is to put his centre backs in midfield and bore opponents with passes until they loose their shape and concentration and get ripped apart.
Arteta's strategy yesterday was to sit deep, block the passing channels, and launch quick precise attacks through city's weakest links (the flanks)

You see, strategy is strategy whether it is all out attack madness or sitting deep and soaking pressure.

Arteta pulled a tactical MASTERCLASS that Pep had no answer to, Pep got outsmarted and beaten 2 nil.
There's no where it is written that the only way of playing football is the Pep way.
Last night Arteta was the better tactian, deal with that fact and let's move on.

Hanibal:

We can drag this for as long as you want,
Oga Guardiola's strategy for winning games is to put his centre backs in midfield and bore opponents with passes until they loose their shape and concentration and get ripped apart.
Arteta's strategy yesterday was to sit deep, block the passing channels, and launch quick precise attacks through city's weakest links (the flanks)

You see, strategy is strategy whether it is all out attack madness or sitting deep and soaking pressure.

Arteta pulled a tactical MASTERCLASS that Pep had no answer to, Pep got outsmarted and beaten 2 nil.
There's no where it is written that the only way of playing football is the Pep way.
Last night Arteta was the better tactian, deal with that fact and let's move on.

TheGoodJoe:


How did Pep get outsmarted? Are you saying he did not expect Arteta to sit deep and wow, Arteta shocked Pep by sitting deep? How did he outsmart him?

Almost every team sits deep, very deep against us. The reason why we have lost loads this season is due to this. Nothing out of the extraordinary. We just work extra hard to break the dead lock early to ease space. When we don't or conceed early, we suffer.

Nothing like outsmarting here. Or are you saying Simeone outsmarted Klopp by sitting very deep in both games?

andrewbaba44:


If I don’t see Ighalo in the starting line up today then I will be supporting Chelsea

TheGoodJoe:


How did Pep get outsmarted? Are you saying he did not expect Arteta to sit deep and wow, Arteta shocked Pep by sitting deep? How did he outsmart him?

Almost every team sits deep, very deep against us. The reason why we have lost loads this season is due to this. Nothing out of the extraordinary. We just work extra hard to break the dead lock early to ease space. When we don't or conceed early, we suffer.

Nothing like outsmarting here. Or are you saying Simeone outsmarted Klopp by sitting very deep in both games?

eazyjakes:

To outsmart literally means to defeat or get the better of someone by being clever or cunning exactly what Arteta did yesterday. I am Arsenal Fan since 1998 and I have been very critical of the team late Wenger years and during Unai’s reign but they were perfect physically and tactically last night.
I love Guardiola’s style a lot and adore the guy but you wont win every football game no matter the style u adopt. Your definition of parking the bus does not one bit apply to arsenal last night as their tactics was far from that.
City is a great team but don’t underestimate the efforts Arsenal put in to get that result....shelah!

Hanibal:

Teams sit deep against city because city's game is possession, that's what they learn day and night everyday of the week, it is madness trying to beat city at possession football. If you want to fight a monkey, you don't do hand to hand combat with a monkey on the trees, bring it to a level ground and give it the beating of it's life.

Long story short, teams sitting deep and City isn't an admittance of superiority but an enactment of the analogy above.

It is Guardiola's duty to find a plan B, when his plan A doesn't work like last night.

andrewbaba44:


No mind good joe ,e 2 like arguement ,I doubt he loves pep more than the way I do

Pep can’t win every game and his tactics can’t work everytime

Simple and clear

charlesemeka85:

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TheGoodJoe:


How is sitting very deep almost all through the game not parked bus? That was the overall strategy.

By the way, winning has a lot to do with fortune than outsmarting. The strategy Arteta adopted favoured him. He did not outsmart Guardiola. There are teams that have adopted the same approach against City and failed woefully because we found a way to break the deadlock. Were they outsmarted?

jihday:
Bournemouth set to be relegated, Solanke has blood on his hands, he's supposed to be their key source of goals but he failed them with just a paltry 2 goals to his name

TheSuperNerd:


@constructive... Hahahahahahaha
You are the one clutching at lazy yammerings to evade the fact of your destructive criticisms towards the lad. There was nothing constructive about your criticisms at all.

And Right? Right how?? In what bloody way?? You were wrong in all facets of judgment on the Lad Osimhen. Just take your L and endure the pains of your everlasting gaffe that was laced with Acidic bias.

The young man Osimhen has proved you wrong over and over and over again! And will keep on doing so! Live with it.

TheGoodJoe:


Where did I say Pep must win every game or are you just avoiding the points I made.

I said we have lost loads this season, 9 in the EPL if I am correct due to similar strategies adopted by opposition. So where did you get Pep must win every game.

My point is simple. Sitting deep is hoping the attacking team fails to take their chances and when the few opportunities, you take them. It is not outsmarting or out classing. It is surrendering a fight and hoping you can stay on the negative and get a favourable result.

komekn:


Your being Superdelusuional again and the bitter pain of my constructive but VERY TRUE CRITICISM is giving you sleepless nights.

I will indulge you today.

Perception is not fact and either is it a truth, what is constructive to one person is bitter rancour to another, that's you. But a wise man takes correction doesn't scoff at it.

Flattery doesn't precede success but constructive criticism does.

I was very clear at that time, He wasn't good enough AT THAT TIME actually quite poor and technically naive AT THAT TIME.

I advised he should drop a league to Bundesliga 2 and or a less competitive league and re-invent himself. That's is to learn understand, appreciate, develop and improve. My posts are there for all to see in context with dates.

From Belguim league to French league and hopefully too Seria A, all within two seasons is exceptional progress for any player.

He still has a lot too learn his schooling is far from complete. He has played one season and 3/4 of a season of first team professional football.

Getting a big contract is the first stage and very difficult to do. But to meet the expectations associated with such huge contract in Seria A for a young player with top level consistency. That's going to be the biggest challenge.

TheLoneCitizen:


I know a lot of people would find it hard to believe but Dessers is just a poor man's Kane. On the same level as prime Harry Kane.

eazyjakes:

They never sat as deep as u sound. Arteta drilled his side in curtailing the byline cutbacks that leads to so many City goals, squeezed the space to stop Kevin De Bruyne and Ilkay Gundogan shifting the ball quickly, and closed the gaps close to the box where David Silva weaves his magic.
You need more than good fortune to create four chances all on target against a very good city side, thats a lil bit of efficiency. Arsenal first chance came off a David Luiz interception deep into City’s half before treading a pass for a one-one chance which Aubameyang missed.
They pressed superbly atimes and played from the back impressively too(one of which led to the first goal).They lost the ball atimes but so did City.
City is vulnerable on the counter with their only plan of possession football and may have to evolve other plans if they want to dominate for long like Fergie’s Utd..
Meanwhile,my examples of bus parking are:
Barcelona vs Inter...UCL second leg Semi 2010
Barcelona vs Chelsea...UCL 2nd leg semi 2012
Cameroun vs Argentina....Italia ‘90.

Not yesterday bro!

jihday:
Bournemouth set to be relegated, Solanke has blood on his hands, he's supposed to be their key source of goals but he failed them with just a paltry 2 goals to his name

ChrisKels:
Never put your heart on a team managed by Brendan Rogers, no matter how impressive they might look, they always flatter to deceive

Rogers is the master of capitulation.