chukwudi44:


in essence christ only came to abolish d non-lucrative parts of the law,while the lucrative parts like tithes were allowed to continue.


Even if I were to agree that tithe is still valid,could you please explain hw the frequency of tithing was increased from once in three years(deut 14:28,deut 26:12) to the now monthly,and weekly tithing practised today.

If you say today's tithe is in the order of melchizedek,we all know that Abraham only paid tithe to melchizedek once in his life time,either way it was never paid weekly or monthly besides Abraham left no instruction for it to continue.

Also Jesus,was here for 33 yrs and never asked anyone to pay tithes to him in the order of melchizedek.

Paul of tarsus never asked anyone to pay tithes for him as he fended for himself by building tenths.

OLAADEGBU:

In the same vein, God has in His infinite wisdom, planted His children in various parts of the world today. He, therefore, expects us as "light of the world" to, through the gospel, touch and brighten the corners where we are.

The gospel also provides that he who is taught in the word, should communicate to him that teaches, in all good things (Galatians 6:6). We are to free God’s ministers from distracting cares, and to leave them at leisure for the duties of ministry; so that they may be wholly employed therein. The maintenance of ministers is a thing to be taken seriously according to the will of God; those who preach the gospel should live by the gospel, and comfortably too.

Unlike the Levites, we have (in addition to earthly benefits), eternal inheritance which fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for us, having begotten us unto a lively hope through the eternal sacrifice of Christ, our Saviour. What a privilege!

Thought for today: A crowning day awaits us in heaven.

afamblondy:

God does not need money ,else he can be classified as a poor God.And if all wealth comes from God why do you have to give it back to him.Is it like recycling money or what?

Joagbaje:


We dont give to God because he has a need. We dont give to Man of God because he is poor. We give to God for our prosperity.

ttalks:

Which essentially reveals you and your lot for what you are -
You don't give because you care about others or love others. You give so as to increase your kitty and ensure your own satisfaction (investing in lucrative businesses to get a windfall of dividends )
You guys don't rep christianity at all when scrutinized properly.

viaro:

Just from one quote he made, you have sized him up completely as to prejudge him, no?

I think we ought to be very careful in the things we say.

chukwudi44:

@oladeegbu

pentecostals who are the most aggressive in collection of tithes has contributed virtually nothing to evangelism as most of their forays are to countries that are already christian centurues ago.They hardly go to non -christian ountries to evangelise.

KunleOshob:

The above is very factual they hardly spread the gospel, all they do is to spread their church branches to prosperous countries all over the worl that there is already a sizeable Nigerian population [ready market]to patronize them.

@chukwudi44
Happy newyear my brother.

Pastor AIO:

Happy New Year everybody!!

Please I am looking for able bodied ministers with zeal for the word of the Lord to go to Saudi Arabia and spread the gospel. To mecca to be precise. It will have to be a covert mission since the Meccan authorities will not allow any religion outside of islam to be preached or practiced in that city. However remember that the lord said that the gospel will be preached to ends of the earth before the coming of the lord. Therefore we must leave no stone unturned.

Any volunteers?

KunleOshob:

I would like to recommend Pastor Tonye-tithes, Pastor Olaadegbu and Pastor Image123 they have a burning zeal for the word and they would be able to manipulate the oil rich Arabs into parting with 10% of their multi million dollars oil earnings which we can further use to propel the gospel.

Tonye-t:

1. Can you prove it! else save your breath

2. Permit me to say that you're dead wrong, men how do christians here read there own biblos sef, are you saying the blessings of opening the floodgates of heaven was written by a daft God? or are you saying the blessings Melchisedek poured on the Patriach Father was in vain, for christ sake, its high time we all leave this biase mindset and see the realities of God's blessings from His word alone

Prov 3:
9 - Honor the Lord with your capital and sufficiency [from righteous labors] and with the firstfruits of all your income;
10 - So shall your storage places be filled with plenty, and your vats shall be overflowing with new wine
AMP


For Christ sake The Lord's Honor should not be robbed him, na wa o! NL xtians. Let me save my phalanges from the other points abeg.

ttalks:

1Jn 4:12
(12) No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.

The above depicts christianity.

1Jn 4:20
(20) If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?

Zikkyy:

@KunleOshob, this your preaching on ‘love based giving’ will not fly oooo!! My people will not give for free. I guess the best way to beat the MOGs at their own game is to adopt their approach. If you can find a way of linking the love thing to prosperity Tonye-t will be one of your first convert

Joagbaje:


We dont give to God because he has a need. We dont give to Man of God because he is poor. We give to God for our prosperity.

Psalm 50:9-15
I will take no bullock out of thy house, nor he goats out of thy folds. [10] For every beast of the forest is mine, and the cattle upon a thousand hills. [11] I know all the fowls of the mountains: and the wild beasts of the field are mine. [12] If I were hungry, I would not tell thee: for the world is mine, and the fulness thereof. [13] Will I eat the flesh of bulls, or drink the blood of goats? [14] Offer unto God thanksgiving; and pay thy vows unto the most High: [15] And call upon me in the day of trouble: I will deliver thee, and thou shalt glorify me.

Philip. 4:16-19
For even in Thessalonica ye sent once and again unto my necessity. [17] Not because I desire a gift: but I desire fruit that may abound to your account. [18] But I have all, and abound: I am full, having received of Epaphroditus the things which were sent from you, an odour of a sweet smell, a sacrifice acceptable, wellpleasing to God. [19] But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus.

Pastor AIO:

Are those films historical facts or se na nollywood? Because if Nollywood be your evidence . . . ol boy, I never start but I don already tire.

ttalks:

^^^^ It's all about the money . . . . . ta da da dam dam da dam dam . . . . .

But why must giving always be related to money?

Money is just one of the things that can be given; not the sole thing that can be given.

Tonye-t:

Ttalks,

save us your nursery rhymes and tell us plainly what you can make up with this passage

Matt.23:23 - And Jesus said unto them practise mercy, practise Justice, practise Faithfulness and also do not neglect to practise Tithing (American paraphrased version)

Simple! I m open to learn from the wise-ttalks

OLAADEGBU:

ttalk, now you are talking.  You are right by saying that money is just one of the things to be given.  Good stewardship demands that we give all of our talents, treasures, time and thoughts for the kingdom's use.  If you guys are still arguing over 10% of your income what would you say of faithful stewards that are prepared to give 100% of their income for the propagation of gospel of Christ.  That is what is called true stewardship in Christianity.

Joagbaje:

@Tonye-t
I can assure you they wont answer, but rather pretend not to see it and then bring up another irrelivant issue

Tonye-t:

Ttalks,

save us your nursery rhymes and tell us plainly what you can make up with this passage

Matt.23:23 - And Jesus said unto them practise mercy, practise Justice, practise Faithfulness and also do not neglect to practise Tithing (American paraphrased version)

Simple! I m open to learn from the wise-ttalks

ttalks:

Tonye-t, do you seriously need a memory jog?


Consider this below:

In the old days:-

Principal says at the morning assembly - "Students, it has been observed that you come to the exam hall with your pens to write down your answers to the exam questions but you neglect the most important thing which is to prepare hard by studying for the exam.
That is why, despite the fact that you put down answers in your sheets, you end up failing woefully.
You ought to study hard and properly and also to come with your pens to the exam hall in order to write down correct answers and pass your exams."

In the new days(data age):-

Principal says in his email message to every student - "Students, we are now using computers for your examinations now.
The questions are in the systems and all you are required to do is prepare well for the exams, come to the exam hall without any pens or writing materials as all you would be required to do is click on the correct answers with the mouse of your computer."


Now relate the above to matthew 23:23 Mr. Tonye.

Keynotes/Keywords:
Old days - old covenant/old testament
New days/data age - new covenant/new testament
Pen(s) - Tithe(s)
Studying/preparing - Justice,mercy and faith.


That's all I have for you. try to decipher what i'm driving at 

ogajim:

The LAW was still in effect until Jesus PAID out DEBT in FULL on the CROSS, get it now?

Get behind me SCAMMERS

B-u-t-ful!!!! Just what i was lurking to hear, so Mr.Ogajim pls tell us which LAW was still in effect, and what DEBT did Jesus PAID in FULL on the CROSS. I m very keen on the LAW.!


Pls i kindly await your response.